Nintendo boss Satoru Iwata has insisted that he Wii U will not be far behind that Xbox 720 in terms of power, as he also admits that the demand for the 3DS in the West remains 'weak'.
Is this good news for Nintendo or bad news for MS?
Why, They effectivley admitted that the wii-u will in fact be weaker than the Xbox 8.
Isn't that a given since A] Nintendo don't aim for best hardware B] The NextBox will be a newer console and probably more expensive due to better hardware. Personally I'll be buying a Wii U and PS4, I'll hold out on the NextBox to see how focused on Kinect it will be
Wii-U is a current gen console playing current gen games., There is no way it will be anywhere near a next gen console.
No he is basing it off the wiiu graphics and RAM if 720 had a HD6670 it would be weaker in graphics but it might have a more powerful cpu of higher clock rates this makes it more powerful not more capable in terms of graphics. Plus its official now the wiiu will be a beast in the graphics department as the official specs suggest plus these specs are not final as the wiiu is even more powerful than what we learn in that spec sheet its called not showing all your cards until as late as possible more chance of 720/ps4 already having confirmed gpu's by then. But the wiiu has a HD6770 and that baby does 1.34 terraflops and runs at 900mhz,plus it does DX11 wow.
It's clear MS and nintendo know a little about the other guy's hardware due to the hardware market (chip companies etc, possibly sharing the same chip company) this back and forth started by nintendo is obviously damage control from Nintendo(next gen mind/marketshare fears as well. The Xbox 720 has to be and will be extremely powerful because it is a next gen mutli media hub that runs pc-like operating system and it uses a new kinect and more. I think the 720 will be Much more powerful than people think in the pro world. MS is milking the 360 keeping the price high an charging for online still to take the financial hit out of the gate.
I believe this won't be a problem for Microsoft or Nintendo. Microsoft already has a huge fanbase just like Sony, and Nintendo will be able to compete against the next generation consoles now (not with the same graphics, but at least it won't be a Wii x PS3/x360 situation). That's what they said: -THQ: “WiiU is just alot more powerful than current HD consoles it does 1080p very easy.” -Epic: “It will do things current HD consoles simply cant do its going to be a powerful box.” -Crytek: “WiiU devkits are very powerful,the specs are very good” -Vigil Games: “We had the game at the same level as high end pc version in a matter of days and a few lines of code got the game up and running on tablet in 5 mins.” -EA: "Wii U is not a transitional platform, it is a true next generation system." -Gearbox: "”(That’s) one thing I can’t talk about. Actually nailing the specs, they haven’t come out with them yet. (The Wii U version of Aliens will) “be better” (than the PS3 and Xbox 360 version in terms of visuals because of) “more modern tech.”"
Yeah but confirmed to be more powerful than the 360 and PS3, so that is go news!!! I knew its true!!! Even GearBox has mention that the Wii U is more powerful than 360/PS3. You know what I really think? I think that all competitors know each others specs from inside knowledge. It was funny when 360 was first announced, the PS3, then the Wii was announced, and they are not that different from each other in terms of specs.
@The Meerkat How's that? MS specs are not set in stone, screw it, the console wasn't even announced... we don't know anything yet, not even Wii-U specs...
" Nintendo don't aim for best hardware " Neither did MS or Sony. Their graphics card were pretty much outdated the moment they were out.
I'm with Wizzio but i'm also holding back on buying the next Xbox to see if they're still stupid/greedy enough to make you still have to pay to play online. Which in my opinion is BS that should have never been tolerated by the consumer in the first place.
How the hell could they say it won't be far behind when the 720 specs haven't been announced in the first place..
What people must understand is this guy is just guessing, he certainly does not know the specs of the next box.
well said. He has no idea what the next xbox system will be like. He is assuming the leap to the next generation will be the same as what he/Nintendo predicts it will be. Microsoft only knows what Microsoft thinks the next generation will be like.
I suspect Wii U and 720 will be not far apart in terms of specs. I have a feeling that PS4 will be considerably more powerful than both though. I'm only basing this on the belief that PS4 won't be bundled with a wonky peripheral.
Oh I didn't know Iwata has seen the Nextbox...oh...wait....unless this is wishfull thinking on his part, AGAIN.
"Other companies might launch a next-generation console with more power, but we don’t necessarily think that the difference between the Wii U and such console will be as drastic as what you felt it was between the Wii and the other consoles because there will be fewer and fewer differentiators in graphics" Bit less dramatic when you read more than the headlines eh. I've literally read 10 or more "articles" based of the same source interview, each with a more desperate headline than the last.
look how all the butt-hurt nintendo fanboys disliked your comment, even though it was a fair comment. They keep hoping the wii u will stay relevent to the next gen more than a year or two, which is unlikely once the next consoles come out. Fact.
oh there's VanillaBear, it just wouldn't feel like a complete Nintendo flame article without you here :)
Awwww look who it is, it's the Nintendo Fanboy....Nintendos very own Superman. You have a cheek to call people out who have a negative post on these articles even though most of them are their opinions typed out in a non trollish/immatue way and then you bash them for it You just come off as a massive Nintendo fanboy...this works both ways. Nearly evert article there you are defending them bashing peoples opinions like a typical fanboy. Sad...does peoples opinions offend you that much lol Don't worry everything is going to be ok, just take deep breathes :)
Agreed. It's ironic that he calls you Superman. VanillaBear is like the troll Batman on this site. Every Nintendo Flame Article is like the Bat Signal for this guy. Thank goodness he only has 2 bubbles in his troll utility belt.
And he is basing this on what exactly?
PS360 >>>>>> Wii. The Wii U big "step up" from Nintendo (regarding their Wii console).
and what are you basing the xbox720 being way more powerful and a HUGE DRASTIC difference in power from the the 720 to the 360? exactly you can just assume and guesstimate im not saying the 720 WONT be more powerful because it WILL be. but the not the difference we saw when comaparing a wii game to a 360 game
Defending the Wii U Specs would be easy if he announced the specs.
To be fair we know some details of the specs. We just don't know some of the finer details; the specifics essentially. For example the CPU is POWER7 based, which already eclipses the 360/PS3 specs. If the specs hold up on the rest of the system then while it will probably be weaker than the upcoming consoles, the gap probably won't be as large as most assume.
Watch! all of a sudden Nintendo fans will begin to talk about things that have been going on for a whole generation.. like power, M rated games, etc.. Before none of those things mattered to them but now that Wii U is (RUMORED) to have a bit of power in it, they will pretend all that power isnt being used in the games.. Like launch titles & launch window games... i mean come on! i bet u see a difference in sony/microsoft systems right away out the box when they launch but with wii u, its going to be in stasis not being used for some odd reason lol Also, microsoft was bad mouthing wii u by saying it was similar to xbox! that seems like an insult to me.. If "N" thinks that wii u will be as capable as next gen systems (he was wrong before) then i wana see what theyre going to do with the network.. ONLINE will be a key factor nextgen & mii plaza is no PSN or XBL.. Plus if cloud gaming comes, "N" cant do anything to compete with high end PC 3rd party games.. Devs only need to make ONE build & stream it.. why would they invest time & resources into a system with no return? Nothing M rated from 3rd party sells on "N" systems
Ignoring your initial rant, why wouldn't Nintendo be able to support (the instantly popular for some reason) cloud gaming. If my mobile phone can do it, I'm pretty sure the WiiU could, be that through a 3rd party or system set up by Nintendo. The whole point of cloud gaming is the client doesn't require any fancy hardware.
really?!?! so u think onlive will partner up with nintendo huh? U think nintendo wii u will get game streaming when they can barely get 3rd party support? HA! i would love to see it
Yes, read my comment, I clearly say Nintendo will partner up with OnLive. Says it right there in my comment look... Also notice my paragraph on 3rd party support. A real eye opener huh. My point, and only point, was technically there is no reason Nintendo couldn't introduce, support or initiate a Cloud based service onto the WiiU. I thought my point was pretty simple, obviously not for yourself.
they just answering badly to that ms statement wii - u is like xbox 360 haahha porr childs
Hard to belive, the Xbox 720/Ps4 will have power like this: Intel CPU 3770K +- 680 GTX 8 GB DDR4 RAM. no ?
There's no way that Nintendo is going to launch a console with dramatic specs and keep it affordable.. Look at the 500 million alone it cost sony to co-develop the cell processor that helped them win the graphics war but they were selling consoles for a loss at $599... Nintendo would die fast if they launched an expensive console..
They can launch a console with pretty decent specs like this at lower cost because over time technology gets cheaper. The specs for the WiiU will be good but no where near a crazy high end pc. The same is true of the ps4/720, you want to see amazing next gen graphics, go buy a $600 gaming pc and it will surpass the 360 and ps3 by a mile.
The spc draw off of a lot of things that are already out there or are sson to be launched by others. AMD is making the parts and the description I have seen sounds a lot like a modified chip that AMD already sells for $80 or so retail. http://www.newegg.com/Produ... This will be another $250. But it will be a lot more powerful. Check out info on HSA ans direct compute online.
The GameCube launched at $200 and was stronger than the PS2. Just sayin.
And are you willing pay much money for such a machine? Well even if you were the consumers aren't. That would be a $700+ console with uncontrollably high heat.
Nintendo should just keep quiet! Their not helping the situation! Reminds me of a poker player that has dropped his hand by mistake, why would you admit that you have a weaker hand????.....
even if the ps4 had DX12 comparable graphics the wiiu with its DX11 comparable graphics will get the same games. ZERO difference in graphics end of look at Dirt2 on high settings then on ultra its not a huge leap end of,plus they could always get the same graphics and frame rates on wiiu no matter what by just doing native 720p instead of Full HD on some games but them games will be when we have had the 3 new consoles on the market for ages think 5/6 years down the line you will start to see the odd game on wiiu and 720 get a lesser resolution just so the graphics are the same as PS4 thats my take on it. But by the time that happens Nintendo will have a new system on the way a few years later as i think wiiu will be a 8 year console going off what they did with DX9 consoles ?
I have finally gone and gotten a 360 pc controller and have my PC running through HDMI to a 46 inch Sony Bravia. I usually play 360/Ps3/Wii but I have to admit this feels no different from a console but the games look amazing in comparison!
What a fool he hoping that new gen consoles not gonna be so powerful WII U will be like a toy compared to PS4 XBOX720
That's what they said: -THQ: “WiiU is just alot more powerful than current HD consoles it does 1080p very easy.” -Epic: “It will do things current HD consoles simply cant do its going to be a powerful box.” -Crytek: “WiiU devkits are very powerful,the specs are very good” -Vigil Games: “We had the game at the same level as high end pc version in a matter of days and a few lines of code got the game up and running on tablet in 5 mins.” -EA: "Wii U is not a transitional platform, it is a true next generation system." -Gearbox: "”(That’s) one thing I can’t talk about. Actually nailing the specs, they haven’t come out with them yet. (The Wii U version of Aliens will) “be better” (than the PS3 and Xbox 360 version in terms of visuals because of) “more modern tech.”" OH stop already with this BS why then Crytek didn't release Crysis 3 ha i want replay on that question or EA and DICE didn't release BF3 ha stop with that BS cos your WII U is toy even for PS3/360
Dude, how do you own yourself in your own post? You just posted evidence that destroyed yourself lol.
You'll come to realize about 70% of the people on this site (probably even more) are complete morons.
this is pure speculation on his part because i can tell you there is no way nintendo has the confirmed specs of the next xbox. also nintendo never worries about having the most powerful system. so why would they now?
.....but two generations behind PS4.
Apparently you have already chosen a side for the next gen console wars, well done!
@seanpitt23 lmao, that was an ignorant comment. But it was funny :D
Granted I'm sure that PS4&720 will be more powerful consoles over the WiiU, but at a premium price tag as well. So even if these next systems from Microsoft and Sony do show a visual bump over the WiiU, you guys will be paying for it regardless!
Yeah because Nintendo knows the specs of MS next console.
Yea because Angelicadiamond knows the specs of the WiiU console. He doesnt know, he is not saying he does he is assuming that the difference between the wiiu and the 720 ps4 will be less than when comparing a wii to ps360 yes those sytems will be more powerful than the wiiu, but not by A HUGE DIFFERENCE
Nintendo is like an old senile granny watching two teenagers rocking it. They try to relate and say they can almost do the same stuff, speak non-sense, but everybody's like "c'mon Nintendo, time to go back to the old folk's home and stop bothering the youngsters".
Because Nintendo knows what the specs for the next Xbox are... yeah.
It funny how Nintendo who can barely keep up with Sony and Microsoft in tech and power keeps insisting that they will be still close in power to the next Sony and Microsoft console BEFORE Sony and Microsoft even reveal them.I love how Nintendo is running around insisting things and claiming things because their E3 presentation tanked and their investors are unsure of them. People don't seem to realize Nintendo is a company like all the others. They will say and do anything to erase any doubt they themselves caused and gamers keep falling for all the PR garbage they keep throwing at you.They will say that the Wii U is hundred times more powerful then the next gen consoles if it will get you to buy it.
Barely keep up in tech and power? Uhh, the N64 was stronger than the Playstation and the Gamecube was stronger than the PS2. They pick one generation to keep the graphics low and suddenly they can "barely keep up?" What the fuck are you talking about?
Xbox 720-- Hardware 3 times more powerful than WiiU=450$ + Kinect=100$ + Glasspad=100$ or more + xbox Live= 60$= Pricey. Ouch.
Ummm, duh... The standard resolution is 1080p and unless that changes all games will look the same, some will just have more particle effect, flasher bloom, etc... It doesn't matter because what will be the determining factor is the games for once not graphics! The fact that Nintendo games will finally be Hi-def is great. We've seen what Sony and Microsoft can do with next-gen hardware, now it's time for Nintendo to show use what they can do...
Ubisoft says the WiiU has HD6770 and does DX11/Compute shaders and guess what its all confirmed as the real specs from the dev kit that was second to very last so things are a little better then the already confirmed specs END OF google it FANBOYS and WEEP the truth is there in black and white. I know something i would much prefer a WiiU with a HD6770 and using a very modern Powerpc with Power7 features and watson tech utilizing 2/3 screens,what i mean by 2/3 is if you were playing Fifa with 2 gamepads ect,than a 720 with a smart glass a mobile phone and a next device sound abit of a desperate failed attempt to copy Nintendo quickly as possible with something that is basically,hey use these 4 devices to mimmick what Nintendo are doing like it wont hamper the gameplay Hmmmmmmmm come on Microsoft get a grip Nintendo have something thats built ground up to be a powerful box,but also something special for the gameplay elements and i buy into that more than hey we have DX12 comparable gpu's in our system ?????but the gameplay is the same as last gen ???
Don't believe that for a second, they've spent all their money on the controller and not used the money or the CPU and GPU.
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