HD Wii games would be better on Wii U than many current titles says Shin'en dev

Nintendo could re-release the best Wii games on Wii U and they'd still be better than many modern titles. That's the word from Shin'en developer Manfred Linzner who is enjoying working with Nintendo's new console.

[2EHO]

I've been saying this for about 2 years now. Nintendo 1st and 2nd party devs are the best in the bizz. NOONE gets more out of hardware then they do while utilizing more art than pure polygons. I'm excited to see how insane looking their games are using 2010 tech(Wii U) moving up from 1999 tech (Wii)

[FinaLXiii]

Yeah they have true artistic integrity its not by pure coincidence that nintendo games get praised most of the time.

Most devs get too focused on the visuals that keep forgetting what´s really interesting about videogame worlds in the first place.

[Apex13]

to expand on that, this is why idiot gamers, developers and prick analyst are crying out for them to go software only. they love their games but not their machine.

[Hisiru]

@a_adji
Stupid comment if you ask me. Nintendo wouldn't have the same profit if they go software only and soon they would become the new SEGA, because "software only" would make Nintendo lose their value.

Also, I don't know what youre talking about. I love my 3DS and for me it's bringing MUCH more new games/experience than my Vita (which I also love). Just look at the sales, people clearly want a 3DS as much as you or some dumb analysts don't like it .

I had a lot of fun playing Skyward Sword using the Wii controls (which Nintendo brought to this market using their hardware and then Sony copied it). I am sure I will have a lot of fun playing ZombiU and Rayman Legends thanks to Nintendo's new hardware.

[nukeitall]

Nintendo hardware might not be the powerhouse, but they sure have two things. Unique hardware features and sustainable business model.

I'm no fan of Nintendo and at this point increasingly less interested in Wii U, but the most fun and laughter was had while playing on Wii and now it's replacement Kinect.

Graphics is important, but more important is the overall experience! How many games do you play, that part of the gameplay or story is just abysmal, but you keep playing because something else is that good!

It's the total experience that counts in my book!!!

[CouldHaveYelledUiiW]

@ Hisiru & a_adji

I think you both are making the same point.

& A_Aji is making the same point I (and others) have made about Smart Glass.

Some people are good at getting the crowd to laugh at New ideas, but they only do that because they know it is a good idea. >They know that if they de-value the idea then most people won't call them theives when they steal it.

Sony got into gaming while working with Nintendo to make a CD based N64. Nintendo stayed with Cartridges. But Sony continued releasing the PS1.

Before Microsoft started making consoles, Bill Gates tried to buy Nintendo. They wanted Nintendo so badly (Giggidy) that Nintendo had to buy back most of their own stocks, from their shareholders, to prevent a Microsoft hostile takeover. When they could not have Nintendo they bought Rare.

Everyone knows Nintendo is generally great. And the reason they want(ed) them to go software only, is because they want to play their games.

(Some even become secret Pirates. They lead double-lives, they spill Anti-Nintendo-Hate on the N4G 7 Seas but then go down to their cabins and hug-up to their Mario plush dolls).

[raytraceme]

I have been playing HD wii on my PC for over 2 years using dolphin ;) if you have an i5 or above PC or laptop then just connect a wiimote via Bluetooth and enjoy Mario in HD.

[StanSmith]

Out of interest, i'm looking at buying a new pc soon. What sort of GPU would be needed to play wii games on dolphin?

[shackdaddy]

^ You don't need a really nice one to use dolphin. Basically just D3D 9.0/OpenGl 2.1 compatible one. I mean, I would look to a way higher demanding program to base my GPU choice on if I were you...

[TBM]

i grew up with nintendo, and even though i know they make great games they've only have to franchises i actually care about mario, and zelda. fire emblem is another franchise i can grow to love since it was my favorite game on the wii

i only have lukewarm interest in metroid, and starfox. and i have never had any interest in franchises like kirby or KI even going back to the old days.

in the end if i do purchase the wii u it will probably be the least played system out of any i will own. its happened with any one of their consoles since the gamecube, the n64 was the only nintendo system i never owned even though i played mario64 and zelda oot.

[neutralgamer19]

2EHO are u serious? NO oneeeeeeeee gets more out off their hardware then Sony does that is a fact. Spin it the way you want too but Sony first party devs have won more recognition, awards, and so forth then any other first party devs for the awesome games theyve made and the power theyve pulled out of their system. Uncharted 2 alone is better then anything put out in the market in testament to this so plz stop it.

Waiting for stansmith the girl groupie of n4g to come in with his stalker comment lol

[omarzy]

Sony devs have more recognition? Name one Sony dev that has more recognition than Shigeru Miyamato. I really doubt you could do that, and add in the the fact that Super Mario Galaxy is the highest rated game this gen. Don't kid yourself.

[2EHO]

Others have already spoken and shut down you insane comment. But seriously your talking ps3 vs Wii. Now that the playing field has been even let's watch and see. When you play and look at games like brawl, the galaxy games, donky kong country returns, and metroid... How good and pleasing to the eye those games look on "1999" tech inside the box. So you are now talking about nintendo entering HD relm with 2010 tech and hardware. Just watch and see. IMO just the Zelda HD demo from E3 2011 shitted on 99% of games this gen for HD consoles and it was a TECH DEMO!

[Christopher]

Just FYI, tech demos tend to show better than actual games because they strip out the majority of the processing and focus on graphics.

I also don't think it 'shitted on' anything done on the PS3 and 360 in the last two years, either.

I agree the Wii U has potential, but let's not go from one extreme (it sucks) to another (it's the best).

[N4g_null]

Cg it had dynamic lighting that ran at 60fps... That is a shit stain most modeling programs don't even have that.

The coveted unreal engine 4 main feature various dynamic lighting with particle effects. All I have to say is they where actually gonna get another eternal darkness made before too human crippled that studio.

Really looking forward to see what they can do graphically now because that Zelda demo was a rush job. Pikman is an up Rez port of a wii idea.

If you have played xenoblade or last story or even galaxy you can see the hardware was holding back those teams. Nintendo does not like to show there hand. Plus hype isn't needed until the games you want are shown. I rather like that approach rather than waiting on stuff.

spec wise the system already out classes last gen and is proper hd. There are games that where not dumbed down for pc and they run just fine on an hd 4000 series card.

I actually think if nintendo showed some thing other than Zelda people would have been more impressed.

[JoNaZ_RG]

But remember they have the power with PS3 and are obviously more capable to develop stuff. On the other hand the Wii is extremely weak, and is admirable to say that Nintendo 1st dev brought good looking graphics out of the outdated hardware. Just saying. Mario Galaxy, and latest Zelda look good for being on the Wii.

[ALLWRONG]

Sony or MS will never have a name as big as Mario, Metroid, or Zelda.

[DivineAssault]

Nintendo devs do make some damn fine games (quality wise) w minimal glitches or other tech issues.. Too bad they dont explore other game genres

[linkratos]

I know right. Too bad they only stick to Platformers, Action-Adventures, FPSs, RPGs, Real-Time Strategy, On-rail shooters, Horror, Fighters, Racers, Life Simulator, Puzzle, Party, and Action-RPGs.

I can't think of a more diverse dev company than Nintendo.

[neutralgamer19]

FinalXiii you must be smoking some good stuff.....

Uncharted 2 alone decimates the competition and has won more awards for its technical feats than any game in historyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!! !!!

So your comment has no merit and mine is backed up by millions of gamers and hundreds of professionals that attest to this and hundreds of awards!!!!! Please show me another game that has garnered that many awards for its technical feats? None that is on record try again

[Instigator]

You say FinaLXiii comment has no merit when he merely states his opinion which is shared by many other, while respond with your own opinion shared by many other as the absolute truth.

A game whose main praise comes from technical feats (Uncharted 2) isn't nearly as indicative of quality as a game praised for it's brilliance and fun (Galaxy). Uncharted is an outstanding series, but does anyone with a 'neutral' look on the two think that Uncharted comes out on top in terms of fun?

[linkratos]

Both Mario Galaxies each got more perfect scores than Uncharted 2 (or any of the other Uncharteds, which did almost nothing in that regard)

[Salamander]

Sorry sir, i dont know how to tell you this but you are an idiot. I have read so many of your comments and there all stupid. Your not neutral; your not a gamer and your not 19, more like a very talented 3 year old.

[malypso]

I don't doubt this, Shin'en usually knows how to push Nintendo's hardware and have really made some spectacular games on Nintendo systems. It's too bad that most of their games never sell that well in the US... Nano Assault was a beautiful looking 3DS titles that even looked as good as a current gen space-shooter...

[bobacdigital]

If Nintendo wants to start the Wii U off with a bang they will need to find a way to set the EShop off with a bang. 3DS failed with not having it on launch... Wii U would need it on release and if they want to make it awesome offer some first party games with HD remakse available for download. Iwata said investors liked the additional revenue at small cost through the Eshop... Also the rumors of Retro working on a metroid / starfox fusion game was kinda cool .. but it was dispelled quickly .. What if it was partially right and it was really just Starfox |U|nited a ground up Wii U game and Prime Trilogy HD as a separate title available for download on the Eshop? Nintendo has said they didnt show all their cards at E3 maybe this is one of them?

[kainslayer]

its called dolphin emulator damn it!!!

[Qrphe]

As far as me, I wouldn't buy them for the same reason I haven't bought PS2 games in years.

[2EHO]

Every tech demo from Nintendo the actual game graphics have been better. Zelda for Wii U is gonna rule

[mike1up]

*gasp*

An actual dev said this? Let's not listen.../s.

[00001]

Nintendo and Co. make phenomenal games from a pure innovation and gameplay standpoint. I mean how creative is the newest Kirby Epic Yarn game, but people will dismiss it who aren't happy it doesn't have guns or a shaved head marine in it. Rather people would love to say games like Phoenix Wright and Professor Layton aren't good simply because they don't show graphical prowess and aren't following a formula people see everyday. Nintendo takes a lot of chances on new ideas and gameplay styles and for that they do out do most competitors because their competitors only rely on the formula of what sells rather than whats new and innovative.

[Skate-AK]

I don't think that a Wii game in HD will look better than PS3 and 360 games.

[Shok]

Well I got the Dolphin emulator and I booted up Metroid Prime 3 in 1080p.......and I can honestly say it looked like a decent-looking 360 game. Resolution does more than people think. Wii games in HD resolutions look pretty damn good.

[Skate-AK]

See I wish I had a nice computer to be able to do that. Then I wouldn't have to assume stuff haha.

[bobacdigital]

a 60 fps HD Metroid prime or Mario galaxy ... even Red Steel 2 would turn a lot of heads...

[Technical World]

I think the Wii has some of the best games on it without HD, of course they are, but please don't remake everything in HD. I want NEW games not tons of HD ports. At least not until the Wii U hits it's dry spell years from now like the Wii currently.

[N4g_null]

Some thing tells me the dolphin emulator dudes could really get paid by selling them their code.

Imagine that... With a disk you could nOw get he wii games almost as a freebie. Talk about added value.

[stage88]

Wow, I got marked as trolling for stating my opinion in a reasonable and polite way.

Thanks guys, glad to you are respectful of everyone's thoughts.... /s

[neutralgamer19]

Salamder this is for you.......

Suck a big fat .... since you like to be disrespectful lol

Back to the topic at hand......

We can all go back and forth because taste is subjective but what is not are the hundreds of awards UC2 garnered alone more than any other game in History which holds more weight than some silly fanboy comments.

I dont even need to mention the other first party devs like Media Molecule, Guerrilla, Polyphony, Sucker punch etcc because that wouldn't be fair lol If you consider devs that spew out complete rehashed regurgitated games continuously the best devs in the business then hey so be it. I know one thing though Uc2 won all those awards and all the Nintendo devs combined with their games haven't won as many awards that says alot!!!!!!

For the ppl hailing the meta critic scores of Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 lol thats good too bad awards hold more weight than that for various reasons. The main reason being if your smart and you look Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 were reviewed by far less ppl (70 plus for 1 and 80 plus for 2) while UC2 had more than 100 accepted reviews making the probability it would get a lower score that much more higher. So your little one point higher score does not equate to a better game and is not representative of equal circumstances. If i knock off many lower reviews and bring down uc2 to have 80 plus reviews as well it would def score higher than both. Soplz stop it your killing me.

[stuna1]

I fully agree with everything you said, but you have to realise nintendo fans live in their own time bubble that operates outside of natural laws & physics! So it should be understandable why some of them are neurotic.

Don't get me wrong I grew up on mario, zelda and, donkey kong, but the sad fact is nintendo didn't grow with me! Here we are almost 30 years later and they are still trying to appeal to a generation that simply moved on.