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Xbox 720 and PS4 Already Irrelevant?

GTMAM writes:

Technology in the gaming world moves fast, and the PS4 and Xbox 720 might not be able to keep up, even though they are nowhere near release. Sometime last year people began noticing that their current consoles were getting old and questions started being thrown at the big developers. Questions about when the next-gen systems were coming and what exactly they were capable of. Of course Sony and Microsoft didn't say a word, and the things we heard from Nintendo were exciting but about on par for what we expected.

GribbleGrunger4341d ago

for the time being, i would say yes.

OC_MurphysLaw4341d ago

For the time being... all we "know" is speculation and rumor. People probably thought the 360 and PS3 would become outdated a year or two after launch but instead 6+ years later both are producing quality titles that don't feel outdated.

You just can't judge the tech of a console with a PC mindset. What is irrelevant in the PC would easily can be relevant and cutting edge in a console depending on how its implemented or tweaked on the back end for the console.

Thatguy-3104341d ago

No one cares about ps gaming. Yea the market is there but consoles are more mainstream. It's obvious that the PC is more powerful and evolves at a fast pace but cmon only hardcore gamers play on them. Many people like me haven't touch the pc to play video games like many pc fanboys on here make it seem.

xTHRASHx4341d ago

i think you would find, as i did when i made the switch, that it is MUCH more rewarding to play on pc. shit i never touch a mouse and i still enjoy it xD

reynod4341d ago (Edited 4341d ago )

"No one cares about ps gaming."

Lol. You need to check out:

http://store.steampowered.c...

h311rais3r4341d ago

Yea the over 5 million active at 1 time steam users are completely irrelevant and no one cares about them. Also the pc gaming market makes billions each year. Ur just a console fanboy who knows absolutely nothing about the other product.

If ur going to say pc gaming is only for the hardcore (which is false) I am going to say "console gaming has spawned the over saturation of dumbed down games and has allowed developers to rape them with dlc and they just take it because the casual crowd just takes whatever they are given and don't fight for anything"(also not true, but hey he wants to be ignorant towards millions of people)

KilL7roCitY4341d ago

PC will always be the number one choice for real gamers.

upgrades.. no bs outdated hardware 1 year after launch...

pc ftw.

WeskerChildReborned4341d ago

Yea but PC gaming is still expensive to others while consoles are just simple machines.

T9004341d ago

In the long run its the consoles that are more expensive.

500usd PCs run circles around consoles, they have been doign so since the last couple of years. Diffrence is consoles stay at a price of 300usd, while performance stays stagnant. While PC of the same price just keeps getting better.

First 200usd difference isnt exactly bank breaking. Its the price most people pay for a new console, then end up paying more for every game bought, also pay to go online and have no assurity if all those games will work next gen. With PC all of that is different.

Here is a link to a 500usd PC that runs most games out today in 1080p, hell it will even run games in 1080p while doing 3d.

http://www.tomshardware.com...

I think people saying PCs are expensive are living back in 2000, today things are much different.

WeskerChildReborned4341d ago

@T900 Yea i know their are some PCs that are pretty cheap but i don't think casuals are gonna wanna spend over $500 on a PC unless the next gen is the same price but i doubt it. From what i heard, Next gen consoles could be from $300-$400 and it will be updated hardware. Like i said, it's just that consoles are pretty simple compared to owning a PC which requires quite some money to keep to date like that one new video card that was i think around $900 not sure exactly. Consoles are just simple for casual and some core gamers.

T9004341d ago

Sure we have graphics cards that cost 1000usd, however those are not required to game. Most people would be happy with a 200usd gpu, and wont really need to upgrade for 2-3 years atleast.

Comparing a 1000usd GPU to a console is very unfair, its like comparing a Ferrari to a toyota Tercel. Hell the 200usd GPU would look like a BMW to the consoles tercel.

Loki864341d ago

Relevency is a loose term, it would be complete relevent to people who don't have 800-1000 dollars to put down a true gaming machine.

Honest_gamer4341d ago

well we can guess that the hardware in the ps4/next xbox will be atleast two years old by the time they come out as there is probably dev kits out in epic etc right now, sure this will be to just give them an idea on what to develop for, the hard ware will likly stay around the same, (this is asumming they started to develop it last year and it comes out next year), so as soon as its released its outdated unless its using nvidia geforce 680 gtx's and ivy bridges etc which come next year they too will be outdated with the newer version, theres no way for the ps4/next xbox to stay up to date unless they make them customizable (i'e i can add in more ram myself, change the proccessor etc, but this opens up more than it solves)

theWB274341d ago

This article was irrelevant before it was submitted.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 2h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle12h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning775h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga12h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218311h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga10h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan6h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus235h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv725h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10115h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos14h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-4h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac14h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10113h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic11h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead4h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 11h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken22h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 7h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 7h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 7h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 3h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 6h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 6h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 22h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 20h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 17h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 10h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 12h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 8h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 20h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 6h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 5h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger2h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 21h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 21h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 18h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 20h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 20h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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