PlayStation 3 Achievements Clone On The Way

"Achievements" have become a major part of the Xbox 360 experience, with many games applauded purely because of how the system was implemented. Sony has seemingly taken due notice of the successful system and is currently adapting it for the PlayStation 3 and then some.

[HowarthsNJ]

I always thought MS copied from the Insomniac "Skill Point" system from all the Ratchet games going way back.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

PWNED!

Skill Points rock in R&C!

M$ Got nothing innovative :)

[lesferdinand]

Isn't it just a rip-off of the awards (no clue what they're called anymore) in Super Smash Brothers Melee? Or was Ratchet released before?

[HowarthsNJ]

They weren't all skill based though. Many were earned from repetitive tasks etc

Trophies.. hmm that brings us full circle again :-)

R&C came out in 2001 or 2002 IIRC.

[InYourMom]

And Battlefield had in game achievements as well. The actual concept of rewarding gamers an "achievement" in a game is not knew. It's how MS took it to a whole nuther level with making them mandatory, setting up a points system(it isn't coinsidence that Uncharted has 1000 points) and tieing it all together across every single game. Every idea can be traced back to something else, but MS made achievements what it is today and whether you want to believe it or not(denial) Sony is ripping off this idea. Not that it is a bad thing, but you need to give credit for credit is due. That's one thing PS3 droids seem to have a hard time doing with their arrogance always in the way. Hell, even Sony can do it but their fanboys can't. Some serious mental problems going on with Sony fanboys ever since they got kicked to last place.

[Nitrogen]

actually, insomniac invented skill points with spyro the dragon

[HowarthsNJ]

Pretty much worthless right?

Do they unlock extra game content or translate into currency that can be used on XBL?

I hope Sony does something much more with the concept, especially identify what game and skill the trophies come from.

As it is now gamers are racking up the points renting kiddie games just to inflate the numbers. Imagine how embarrassed they would be to have all those easy games listed on their card :-)

Edit: I have the Spyro PS1 games, thanks for the reminder.

[Bubble Buddy]

No Insomniac started that, and with the whole round planets like Mario Galaxy copied

[Genki]

but I won't be satisfied if it isn't something tangible. I'm not attracted to numbers and titles(c*ck waving), I want something I can see and use.

[Spike47]

Nice HowarthsNJ.

I have really never cared much about online play the only thing that matters to me is that it works.

But hey PSn is free and did'nt mess up on me in the last few weeks like xbox live did.

Plus soon I'll get HOME, FOR FREE.

PWNAGE

[PStriple703]

Sony said there going BEYOND just achievements....

[The_Engineer]

to the highest achiever should bring em in droves to PSN.

I would give away a game or PSN credit.

expect for xbuglive to follow suit within the week though, they have already shown they will copy any and everyhing Sony does in order to try to compete.

[Hugh Hefner]

It is so ironic that you state:

"they have already shown [MS] they will copy any and everyhing Sony does in order to try to compete"

in the same thread we are talking about Sony cloning the Xbox Live achievement system. Pure irony.

[Keyser]

it may be best if Sony doesn't give anything away. You know if they offer a free t-shirt for the most trophies people will make it their lifes goal to cheat and find away to get the prize.

I don't want the very satisfying PSN experience to become the cheaters/hackers playground. Though, Sony may be smart enough to pull it off. I guess we'll see.

[Lucreto]

I hope we get a gamer points which can be spent on your Home apartment like Wallpaper and others instead of paying for them.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

where you can gamble away your PSN points or GAMER points.

lol.

[TruthBTold]

I would probably loose all my points and then be kicked out of my HOME. Ill be on the streets maybe by the movie plex. LOL

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

that was hilarious.

at least you wouldn`t be alone. lol.

[Keyser]

I'd love to throw my points "all in" at a Home Texas Hold'em tournament.

I'll probably be holding my hat asking virtual gamers for spare change next to TruthBTold but it'll make for a great "Riches to Rags" story.

[THC CELL]

Points should be spent trophy's should be showed off

100.000 get a free game etc
or items for ya home

[Lucreto]

I was thinking 1000 points get a 52" Bravia for your apartment.

[Darkiewonder]

Fixed your comment for you ^^

[liquidsnake]

1000 points and you'll get a real TV summoned into your living room.

[TruthBTold]

a lot of extra things that will make the games that much better. There are so many things that ca be integrated to home. Hope its out soon.

[The_Engineer]

you can rip them off all day long and they can't complain for one second because after all, they are the KINGS of ripping people's ideas off.

what's good for the goose is good for the gander and it cracks me up to watch silly little pre-pubescent xbots get bent outta shape about it.

[i Shank u]

^^^^you're dumb :)

[EastCoastSB]

Great Post idiot.

I agree with The_Engineer, MS isn't very innovative in their endeavors either.

[doomsonyman]

SONY NEVER COPIES. they may immitate and use the groundwork of other peoples ideas but the add they're own twist/diffrentiater of there own to it in the prosses. it's not copying if you push something further along that your competion can't do. this rumor is bullsh*T! sony doesn't bring features out unless they have a "extra" of they're own. that is why we still don't have HOME yet.

@ BELOW

do you know what imitate means? i stated facts you imbecil. how bout this. stop correcting me and try to proove me wrong!

[Daz]

lol hahaha
do you know what imitate means?
Just proves how dum fanboys are.

[cellypower]

You don't have to recreate the wheel,but you can build upon the idea.

[AllroundGamer]

they should make something like if you unlock a really tough achievement, it should immediately send a message to all the people in your friend list. Bragging in the highest form ;)

[jcgamer]

bubbles up...but it needs to be REALLY tough...then when your friends get the message, they KNOW that you OWN...lol...Sony, listen to the man AllroundGamer...I know they come to N4G...lol...game on...

[nitramn4g]

Why settle for lest when you can go XBL!

[HarryEtTubMan]

hahaha whats special about Xbox Live?

In 2008 I will have PShome(a huge virtual world ) to mingle and have fun in.

In 2008 I will be able to send mesages and invites and see my buddylists in and out of games.

I will be able to download movies and musiv on PSN.

Its only a one year old service.

WHY WOULD I PAY(which I used to) for something I can get for free with EVER BETTER things like no lag dedicated servers with 60 players in multiplayer games and a huge social network like Playstation Home.

You, my friend, are the idiot.

[fanboyssuck]

First 'The Engineer' says microsoft copies Sony with everything, then he says that since its Sony copying them that its ok. Make up your mind! Then theres Doomsonyman who says Sony never copies anything that they imitate (which you spelt wrong):

Main Entry: im·i·tate
Pronunciation: \ˈi-mə-ˌtāt\
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): im·i·tat·ed; im·i·tat·ing
Etymology: Latin imitatus, past participle of imitari — more at image
Date: 1534
1 : to follow as a pattern, model, or example
2 : to be or appear like : resemble
3 : to produce a copy of : reproduce
4 : mimic counterfeit <can imitate his father's booming voice>

You idiot imitate means copy

[heyheyhey]

cool, im definetly going to get all the MGS4 trophies no matter how hard they are

Kill all the enemies with nothing but the stun knife? ok then

[jessupj]

I'm with you man all the way. I don't care how hard it is, I want them all.

[heyheyhey]

oops double

[lesferdinand]

'nuff said.

[DarkSniper]

Sony Computer Entertainment is the people's choice for a superior gaming platform. They have always lended a special ear to the customers to ensure any corrections and additions can be made to supplying gamers with the most complete experience ever in a game.

With Sony's achievement system, PLAYSTATION® 3 owners are guranteed to have a true incentive program as perks will be awarded for item discounts in the PlayStation® Store. Dark Sniper knows this will rub all Microsoft slaves the wrong way, but their only choice will be to convert to PLAYSTATION® 3 as XBOX 360 will become a defunct console in 2009.

$niper

[doomsonyman]

WILL YOU STFU SNIPER!!! your making my fanboy posts look ameture lol

[Says you]

that xglitche live has! to offer and you cant use them and while trophies are much better achievements then retarded points whats the point in having something that you cant use them on the other hand like trophies now thats something to "brag" about but points are nothing to brag about there just numbers!.

[InYourMom]

The second contest on XBL has already started called the Old Spice Challenge and you get games, t-shirts, MS points, etc for earning achievements. So MS is already way ahead of your thinking.

You don't even own the system, yet you talk like you are some expert about it. You are a joke!

[Daz]

Im not bothered about things like this. I just want to play the games.

[Nameless]

Copying is copying no matter what kind of change or twist is added to it. The Sony Droids are just being nothing but hypocrites as usual.

[Imalwaysright]

Copying??? If they add a tiny new feature to the concept that is Live its not copying its improving the concept. The concept already isnt the same that was before so its not an exact copy its a new concept. BTW if Home was a copy of Live everyone in the world knows that MS would go after Sony's ass.

[jessupj]

I think the trophy achievements are a great idea. I'm hoping each achievement will be very hard to get or a least have a few achievements that are known through out the PSN community as been legendary and almost impossible to attain. And anyone seen with said trophy can truely be known as a skilled gamer.

Can't wait to see where else they take this. Hopefully they have patches to include achievements for games already out like drake's fortune.

[eagle21]

We knew this GDC 07'. And you let everyone view them. I know they will be skill based accomplishments (the trophies are too beautifully rendered to be easy). Not random easter eggs.

[okcomputer]

I don't know about that. From the achievements system in uncharted the type of tasks seemed to be identical to the ones used to get achievements in 360 games.

Of course the achievements naughty dog used in uncharted could be different from what sony has in mind, but I doubt it.

[dark loard]

a few pics

[okcomputer]

Damn that looks awesome. Where is home already... can't wait.

[doomsonyman]

some of my friends on PSN are very competitive. if sony does this right then the whole of PSN will become a game in itself with people trying to out-class eachother and what not. interesting way to get us to buy and play more games. espcily if it's a vritual community.

[zonetrooper5]

Firstly PSN does not have 10 million users on its network, please tell me when PSN gets 10 million users online and then I will see if it becomes slow or crashes etc.

Sony is copying MS, MS copies Sony and everyone else as well copies each other. Stop with this fanboy crap and shut the hell up.

[InYourMom]

Just give it a couple weeks after this is released and all the Sony droids will be claiming they invented them and how the Cell makes them sooooo much better. They are already trying to do it to a certain extend by saying... Well instead of a 2D picture I get a 3D trophey.. LOL

[eagle21]

10 million easy by E3 08'. Dedicated servers keep it lag free.

[Bombomb]

achievements , why would they want it?

everybody copies someone..

[fopums]

I dont care about achievment's, I like the idea of the trophy system...but still, as long as its not a "cut and paste" scenario... hopefully there is somthing original about this new system.

[rawg]

Points are fine and trophies would be okay but hopefully not just 3D models that sit in a display case in your Home.

I'd like wearable trophies, like a Clank backpack, a Heavenly Sword hairstyle, or a COD4 medal/tattoo. Something I can wear on my avatar in the public areas in Home so people will know how badass I am. Being able to buy them with points would be nice but there should be some things that you can only get by doing something ridiculously difficult in-game so that it's really a badge of accomplishment.

It would also encourage people to log on to Home so they can show off their loot like they do in World of Warcraft... and then dance battle.

[creeping judas]

coversation over heard on HOME

sony player1 - "hey sony player2, you like the new ratchet and clank bagpack?"
sony player2 - "i love it, it looks absolutely faboulous. I just got the new Killzone bed sheet set for my bedroom, wanna come over and see it?"
sony player 1 - "id love to!! but 1st i have to get my Uncharted pajama's from my crib. lets go!!"

sorry i coudnt help it.

[Salvadore]

And they better unveil it on GDC.

[pornflakes]

The next idea Sony wants to steal? Japanese dont like SOny this gen cause they laughed @ Nintendo and stole their ideas.

[mighty_douche]

So achievements and points were invented by the 360? LOL...

eitherway, im not one for achievements, i dont need a pat on the back from the developer, but i realise for some it can add longevity to their games, its something i could easily live without but if its FREE ill welcome it with open arms.

[Yoma]

None have copy something, it have all existed for a long time ago.

[2 cents]

When Sony implements some sort of achievements then i will start buying multiplats for my ps3. Untill than its 360 all the way. The wholle concept of HOME is stunning, no matter who copy who, HOME will be badass.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

dont cared for it , But i do welcome it . when you play games you do try to collect and get everything anyways .

[WilliamRLBaker]

doesn't innovate they emulate.

[rofldings]

No.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

Sorry but you are mistaking Japanese with Chinese. :)

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

I think we all know trophies are coming, but I really don't want too.

Achievrements are kind of dumb, you collect 100 itens, you get a message just saying 'you get 100 of 'x' thing', which you know, you have just done it...

The worst part is since devs are assuming that such messages are enough to pleasure us, they are just not giving you any extra, instead of getting new secret weapons or costumes, all you get is a dumb message...

Pretty funny huh? Yes, I'm looking at you Assassin's Creed's flags!

[solar]

hey cool. i found myself in a sniper server getting the Grey Matter achievement for the pc version of Team Fortress 2. and whats the deal with the "play with 7 friends on your friends list at one time" achievement? how stupid!

[CrazzyMan]

i care about single player and about good story.
of`course i like to achive best result in my favourite games, but i do that for myself, not for the achivements.