VGChartz's Craig S: "Who doesn't love a good dose of schadenfreude every now and then? There was no shortage of that on offer in terms of video games last year, hidden in plain sight amongst the more genuine disappointments (I'll leave it for you to decide which category each of the following games falls into).
One unfortunate trend when it comes to the biggest disappointments of the last year was that so many were new IPs, including Bethesda's latest major release Starfield, the Arkane Studio B-team's abortive attempt at a co-op vampire shooter, and Square Enix's action RPG Forspoken. Mega-franchise Call of Duty and the perennially delayed The Lord of the Rings: Gollum round out the list of Nominees."
Starfield has crossed the 14 million player milestone and will get annual story expansions. Shattered Space takes place on a single planet.
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Looks like you are looking to start a players vs sales debate.
Il join
Here in the uk starfield is available for £12 in the bargain bins.
This doesn’t happen with Sony or Nintendo ‘s big first party games
Oh wait it isn’t first party, they were always going to have starfield anyway, they just brought the publisher and decided not to release on PlayStation
@purple101
Sony and Nintendo games never go to the bargain bin? Never Every? Not one game? That's a great achievement .
14 million copies excluding game pass downloaders? Game was bound to be pretty successful given dev's reputation & MS's marketing. Still impressive considering it's at best an above average game that launched at 30fps. I played it on PC, so didn't have to deal with that. I liked it but this was not what I expected from the developers of Skyrim and Fallout.
Btw, is Far Harbor size a good size? Not sure if that comparison means good or bad for the DLC size-wise.
14 million installs out of how many GamePass subscribers?
Starfield was supposed to be THE game of the generation, and providing it for free to over 25 million users should imo have a higher install base.
I like Starfield, even bought the game, but it's sadly nowhere near a game of the generation, not even one of the best games last year.
Hope it will make the same turn around as Cyberpunk, FFXIV and No Man Sky 👍
The way people keep turning their attention to it says otherwise. People rely too much on statistics. It doesnt matter if people stopped playing it. People stop playing games
Purple101 come on man stop lying I'm here and you are talking about trade in credit.
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Trade in credit is still on sale. That means they're not moving copies as fast as they'd hoped to, so they're starting to employ different schemes to move it faster.
https://www.hotukdeals.com/... £12 last week at game
Currently £15 at Smyths
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I don’t lie
Sometimes get things wrong because I am not perfect
But lie on purpose, no
@attilayauzer
Like that great poet Taylor swift said " Haters are goin' ,hate , hate..."
"Starfield doomers punching air."
There´s nothing else they can do right now.
They should know better that games Bethesda Softworks has crazy legs.
So happy to know that we´ll be getting annual expansions! Bethesda is definitely better under Xbox with more money to fund their games, and more freedom to create.
@BeHunted
why use Concord? is it coming from a huge developer in the ballpark of Bethesda?
here:
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Spider-man 2 over 11mil units SOLD and Helldivers 2 over 12mil units SOLD. Bethesda wish they can use the word SOLD with Starfield LOL
@BeHunted
Why use Concord as an example, that doesn't come with a Subscription service that is handed out for free when buying a burger?
Use Astros Playroom for a better measurement, 58+ million installs 😘
but instead, it wasn't, and GP subscriptions haven't risen by $3 billion, in fact, they're stagnant, so they've lost money.
These numbers are difficult to parse without context. How do we compare nunbers played on Game Pass with actual sales of games like Skyrim and Cyberpunk 2077? A good start would be achievement data. If we know how many players kept playing past the first few missions, we would have a good idea of how many players considered the game a value addition for Game Pass.
Still difficult to calculate.
I mean, every single MS game are supposed to be on GamePass Ultimate.
If you combine all those possible sales and on top of that, remove all costs for third party games on the services.
Would the total revenue/profit be bigger or smaller than the total revenue from GamePass alone?
I'm most certain this is eating profit madly
$204/year for Game Pass Ultimate is a lot of potential profit for Microsoft. It’s $2B/year for every 10M subscribers. That pays for a lot of game development. The problem is that Microsoft also has to pay all those 3rd parties for their games. I think the future of Game Pass is fewer 3rd party games.
@ChasterMies
Amazon India: Xbox Game Pass Ultimate is about $100 for 24 Months, or $19 for 12 months (2x 6 Months Game Pass Core subscription). VPN does the trick when redeeming on Microsoft's website.
@ChasterMies
No one spends $204/year for GPU...
Not even the dumb ones...
$2B/year doesn't even cover salaries for the employees, less so the 80 billion spent on trying to get monopoly last few years.
Starfield players are channeling their inner Boba Fett, as the latest mods are helping turn the game into a Star Wars Bounty Hunter remake.
Bethesda surprised fans with mod support and a free quest in Starfield, but the mission cost 700 credits to continue and fans are not happy.
Love this site
Fallout 76/fallout 4/skyrim all had bs paid mods far worse than this
But oh no bethdesda are saints they never screw over the customer its that evil Microsoft that is causing this.
So you're saying the $3 trillion company can't change that about the company they OWN? Sorry that's absolutely 💯 idiotic.
@chev
I am saying bethdesda has been doing shady tactics screwing over its fan's for a decade +
I did not add elder scroll's online or the fact they like blizzard own anything you make with there mod tool's.
There was backlash but never mainstream week long just a little blimp here/there then Microsoft buys them now everything is exposed portrayed as if this big evil corporation has corrupted our poor tod boo that evil ms.
This site is really skewed against Microsoft and they deserve a lot of it but to say that this is new and is caused by Microsoft is not realizing Bethesda's history. Anyone remember the $15 horse armor that was at the beginning of micro-transactions that pissed everyone off way, way before Microsoft was involved?
Stupidest comment. So it’s not MS fault then? Is that what you are trying to tell us?
MS is not doing anything, and that is the problem. Bethesda is stubborn and lazy, and MS has a policy of not interfering with their studios for the most part, but in this case they need to just play the bad cop, and start regulating on Bethesda.
Mat booty is in charge right now he issued refund's for redfall dlc laid off that dev team and is overseeing the starfield updates.
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October of last year is when after 3years they took the rains away so 2024 is when we can say yes that was M$
But the whole paid mods are bs deal screwing over customers and overpriced dlc to content available that has been bethdesda for many many years now.
You know what is ridiculous? The same people complaining about this probably paid $20 or more for a skin in other games.
This is the only Bethesda RPG that I haven't finished and have very little interest in returning too. Over priced MTs aren't going to make this game fun
I fired it up yesterday beyond the need for a bethdesda account to access the mod section the game is the same after all the patches.
But the whole customize you hub on your ship the game gives 0 clue how i had to look it up you pull up your scan tool when in a empty hab i am like scan tool? what button is that again. Five minutes later ohh ok that button
Then i saw 0 addition the same crap same issue from day one and the items but now they just break landing/flying its a gltich fuck fest. If you ever built in one of those pointless homes you can do that in your ship with all the same issues hazahh
So do not worry take it from someone that has over 200hours has not finished the campaign the only good thing the added was a map that has icons and the main mission if i can't go to sleep or have to much energy they are still so bad i passout with in the first section so now that its performance issues are fixed i can load one up much quicker cheap knock out device right there.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they start disabling mods on older titles to push people toward Starfield?
Not really. Whenever they update the game, it will break any mods that touch something that was patched in any way. The mods can be updated to work again, but that might not happen if the mod maker has moved on.
They're not patching the game with the intent to break mods, it's just collateral damage from the update process. They're more concerned with what they're doing, not the community.
So don't support MS for theyr greedy practice besause Bethesda is owned by MS. You better call a horse a horse
Bethesda was doing this before they got bought out by Microsoft. Skyrim was the first game to get Creation Club and since then opened up a can of worms. They also started the horse armor debacle back in 2006 which began this entire mess in the first place.
Bethesda was doing this before the purchase but because of these practices MS wanted to buy them. MS can’t make enough money selling games but they think they can with MT’s and paid dlc, passes etc. This is what you get with your “free game rental service” aka Gamepass
I think disappointing and bad are not the same thing.
The article calls out lotr Gollum that was not disappointing it was bad
Redfall is both disappointing and bad.
starfield, MW3 sure disappointing.
But if I was to add some disappointments of the year I'd add
firewall ultra absolutely a dumpster fire that killed the studio.
007 goldeneye the port of the N64 game it's disappointing as we didn't get the rare remaster version and the switch version has very poor controls.
Rdr was not the remake we wanted a simple port that didn't even run at 60 fps on launch on ps5
Jedi survivor Just broken on day 1
I recently came back to Redfall, my lord...the controls and movement were a disgrace! I felt like my character was drunk. Zero fine movement control. The XBOX producers on this game should be fired.
I think Diablo IV deserves to be on this list. While not the worst made game, it was one of the most disappointing. Many of us had such high expectations for it and it turned out to be so incredibly dull, a slog to play.
Jedi Survivor was disappointing for me because I waited until a month ago to play it and it still has major issues. My saves were getting corrupted so I had to restart an old save however many times and a plethora of other bugs.
Of course there is Redfall Starfield but to me it’s MS overhype underdeliver so I expected it to some extent but not as bad as it was.
Gollum had little to no expectations.
Forspoken was a disappointment but not as bad as it was made out to be especially if you turned on Japanese voice acting. It was a 7 type of game but it looked like it could have been better.
Diablo 4 was scored well at launch but all my friends that loved and played 3 (after years of swasons) up until 4 were disappointed with 4 and don’t play it anymore .
Factions getting canceled was a bit of a disappointment. Not huge as I don’t play gaas much but it was disappointing.
Nintendo not releasing Switch 2 again was disappointing to me. I don’t use my Switch much it’s just so outdated and mosty kiddy games release some more games that I want to play not my kids!
No physical copy for Alan Wake 3 disappointing as hell, actually beyond that it is upsetting (to some extent,I will live of course)
Gamers getting used to owning nothing and renting games is very disappointing. I don’t watch Netflix anymore it’s mosty mediocre crap and rental services will go that direction if allowed.