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FABLE 2 The Big Three Features Revealed:GDC 2008

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Peter Molyneux's stated ambition as a designer is to make FABLE 2 a landmark game. In order to achieve this three big design features have been added. The inspiration and rational behind these features will be discussed along with their evolution throughout the development process. The wider context of their impact and influence on the RPG genre with also be examined as the ambition is also to evolve the genre itself. The talk will be supported by retrospective videos as well as live game examples.

February 18-22, 2008 San Francisco

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Dr Pepper - 702 days 1 hour ago

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Co-op!!!

Please!!! That would be so awesome!!!

Sorry, I can't contain my excitement for this game...

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games4fun - 701 days 23 hours ago

1.1 - where

does it even say co-op?

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Dr Pepper - 701 days 23 hours ago

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It doesn't, but that is my guess for one of the features he reveals. There have been hints that they might include it (the OXM people talked about it in one issue). It may be a long shot but I hope it happens.

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KidMakeshift - 701 days 23 hours ago

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I thought Co-op was already announced for Fable 2? At the end of the first trailer there's a guy and a girl who just killed a monster, so hopefully that's some indication that there will be co-op.

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Dr Pepper - 701 days 22 hours ago

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@ KidMakeshift

I don't think it's been confirmed but that part of the trailer is what I'm mainly talking about. It made people get the assumption that co-op would be included.

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KidMakeshift - 701 days 22 hours ago

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I'm 100% positive co-op will be in Fable 2. I don't see how they could exclude a feature like that this time around.

It'd be cool if they could actually add some MMO features like Monster Hunter and KUF:COD have. Even better, multiplayer lobbies would be town's actually integrated in the Fable world so you can go to auctions or barter, go to pubs, inns, diners, blacksmiths, etc. and interact with real people who can be either good or bad.

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Dr Pepper - 701 days 22 hours ago

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Well, it looks like we'll find out in February :)

I wonder what the other two will be, assuming co-op will be one of the topics...

That would be pretty cool with some MMO features, btw.

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ngg12345 - 702 days ago

2 - Let me guess

1. INteract with the dog
2. Interact with a cat
3. Interact with a tree
This is a joke in case anyone remembered gdc 07.

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GastoncklovesMP - 702 days ago

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I would Love CO-OP and what do you mean a joke?

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FirstknighT - 701 days 23 hours ago

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The first Fable is one of the main reasons why I love playing video games. Fable 2 is going to be a monster hit!

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Impact - 701 days 23 hours ago

5 - ehh

I hate to disagree but I do, I thought fable one was crap from beginning to end, it was mega hyped and didn't deliver on any of the S#!t they promised.

However KOTOR was awesome from beginning to end.
this game has to surpass "The Witcher" in my book which I doubt it will do.

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FirstknighT - 701 days 23 hours ago

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Explain please. No other console game in last gen gave such a rich experience like Fable. The only feature that didn't get included was not being able to have kids. Seriously, who cares about that. The first Fable had a living world that not many games can equally create.

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KidMakeshift - 701 days 23 hours ago

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The only thing I really didn't like was the childhood part and that after you finish training your character becomes extremely old within such a short time. Plus, the character scarred to easily.

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chrno6 - 701 days 22 hours ago

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I know, it's quite wierd to see my character to age and look even older than his master and other characters. Overall it is a fun game but it did not blow me away.

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Xanatos - 701 days 16 hours ago

5.4 - i agree

The game was simple way too simple, nothing you do makes much of a difference not even the armor you wear. The only thing they failed to deliver on was not your ability to have kids, a lot of things never came in the final build which made it an average game.

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GastoncklovesMP - 701 days 23 hours ago

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Im with FirstknighT here. I though it brought everthing but the haveing kids thing too so please explain. Still it was a awsome game and it felt so new at the time.

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Bathyj - 701 days 23 hours ago

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I really hope they do this good.
Fable 2 is about the only XB game I'm really excited about.

The first one was great but way to ambitious. So many things just didnt happen. The whole good and evil thing amounted to very little. All it really changed was the way you looked and what remarks the NPC's would say to you. The gameplay didn't really change. Still is was a good action RPG which I like as opposed to turn based. Here hoping the sequel lives up to the hype.

PS I think the dog concept and the manner in which you control him is awesome.

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Jenzo - 701 days 22 hours ago

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You got the freak part right. Fable 1 scored 9.4 at IGN and has an 85% average at Gamerankings. It's an awesome game and number 2 will be even better.

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mullet - 701 days 21 hours ago

8.7 - Lol the most laughable argument I've seen in weeks.

I'm sorry William but you're a moron if you believe Fable is bigger than Final Fantasy. Are you even being serious right now? Final Fantasy is the biggest RPG in gaming. You can't even compare Fable to Final Fantasy without making yourself look like the biggest idiot alive.

One's been around for years and years and years, and perfected the JRPG genre, while other is just good. Nothing great. One sells MILLIONS in 2-3 weeks, the other doesn't. If you disagree you're the biggest idiot that's registered to n4g.com.

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destroyah - 701 days 21 hours ago

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@ the idiot saying FF doesn't sell millions... are you retarded?

FFXII sold 5m
FFX sold 7.95m
FFVII sold 9.92m
FFVIII sold 7.86m
FFIX sold 5.30m
FFX-2 sold 5.21m

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Fable sold 2.60m

http://vgchartz.com/games/i...

so many idiots on n4g. LO was supposed to be the savior for 360 in Japan and it didn't even sell more than Lair or Uncharted or Resistance or Heavenly Sword or Motorstorm. LO couldn't even outsell Gran Turismo 5 Prologue and Prologue is only the demo that's the sad part Mistwalker is supporting the wrong system because if those JRPG's don't sell well in Japan then i don't even wanna imagine how they sell in the US even knowing there's a larger 360 install base in the US, Americans don't buy JRPG's and if they do, they'll always go with the one that's actually known and that's Final Fantasy. the JRPG franchise that's been around for over 20 years.

no video game has more loyal fans than FF. go to gametrailers.com. go to any website that accepts user vids and you'll see that FF ALWAYS has the most. why? no RPG is more popular. that's not an opinion that's not assumption, that is a FACT. oh and douche bag, you say FF sucks but guess what? Fable hasn't outscored or outsold any of the popular FF games. FFXII released after Fable and it sold more. now go kill yourself for being such a moron

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Jenzo - 701 days 20 hours ago

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On this site it's a good thing to get lots of disagrees. It usually means you're close to the path of truth and not roaming freely in the endless fanboy forest of delusion...

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bozobucketeer - 701 days 12 hours ago

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Hate to jump into such a heated argument, but I'd like to point one thing out. He said FF never broke the 8-10 million sales barrier. He never said it never reached a million. Illiteracy is a plague. So I guess he should thank you for supporting his argument destroyah. I'm not saying the numbers you posted are dismal, just pointing out that you need to read more thoroughly.

Edit: Excuse me? Two words, two different definitions. Break and meet. One of the games met the 8-10 million. None broke it. Thanks for proving my point. Also, I never said the numbers were dismal or weren't close. So not only did you put words in my mouth, you misread the entire thing. Thanks.

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robbo918 - 701 days 11 hours ago

8.11 - Bozobucketeer

You need to read more carefully also...1 game did beat the 8-10 million mark and 2 others came close (as in 7.95 and 7.86) so you might not want to jump around trying to slam someone so quickly yourself.

Usually WilliamRLBaker's posts are very intelligent even if I disagree with a lot of what he says since I hate M$ with a passion for reasons other than XBox, but this time he went off the deep end. I agree Fable was a great game, I played it on computer. I think Fable 2 will be even better and could be a contender for GOTY, and this coming from *gasp* a Sony Fanboy, but to even try to compare it to the FF series is ridiculous. I agree FF isn't always to my taste (too many cut scenes for me in the last several), but it made the RPG market a whole lot bigger and opened the door for future games like Fable. Fable rocks but its nowhere in the league of the FF series currently.

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jay2 - 701 days 22 hours ago

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Sounds like a lot of you will be happy, 'wink.'

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Rattles - 701 days 21 hours ago

10 - i played the first one it was alright wish i had some more time with it

but how much did it sell? and im not liking the one button attack now that just sounds awful.

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PureGamer - 701 days 20 hours ago

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can people shut up about sh1tty gamer ranking scores, why do you people care how much the game gets. I thought Fable 1 was brilliant but oh know it got 85% jesus its not Triple A i cant play it. What the hell have gamers turned into people need to stop quoting these reviews like they are the gaming code.

Also WilliamRLBaker stop being a complete fanboy Fable bigger than FF jesus what the hell are you smoking. Just because he doesnt like the game doesnt mean hes a "Sony Fandroid" by that logic your a "xbot" for saying FF sux.

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Greysturm - 701 days 17 hours ago

12 - The original was a good game...

But it wasnt anything out of this planet it had its fun parts but none of them were above and beyond anything done. It wasnt even the best rpg on the original xbox Kotor takes that place so unless they can improve several things it will be eclipsed by other titles again.

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ngg12345 - 701 days 14 hours ago

13 - The original game was good-actually amazing

It was my favorite rpg on xbox But the reason it scored low, was because peter molyneux lied about numerous features in the game. He just blatantly lied and never put them in. Now this game, appears to have taken a couple step back, especially the "one button gameplay" doesn't excite me (he said that you could beat this game only by using one button, when the original fable had an amazing combo system), and the dog gdc show, was a joke. Besides that, if they implement all the features that fable was supposed to have, these flaws wouldn't hurt the game that much.

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Diugu - 701 days 13 hours ago

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I'm a PS3 owner... and I loved playing Fable on the PC. And there definately were many things missing. But what I missed the most was that I could not play it more.

If Fable 2 comes to PC I will get it. (I am uninformed as it will or will not go to PC, but my guess is "yes, it will".) I really want to play it. I might even go play at my friends' Xbox.

Considering the FF vs Fable debate. In my book there is simply no comparison... FF is a lot better. BUT there is only one Fable so far... so who knows what the future holds? Anyways.. If I had to chose I would go for FF without a doubt in my mind.

I just hope both Fable 2 and FFXIII are great and that everyone (me included) can have fun with both... if they wish to do so.

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bozobucketeer - 700 days 13 hours ago

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It's not everytime, but generally if a game goes 360 console exclusive, it'll come to PC. It's not 100% but I'd put money on it.

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xionpunk - 701 days 11 hours ago

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Damn , people are sensitive on this site. Truth is, Fable was a little over hyped. It was a good game, just not a great game (IMO). Just a little too easy. Plus I didn't play it until after I played FFXII, so...
with that said, I think they can improve on what they did with the first and make it a must have.

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power of Green - 701 days 11 hours ago

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So says the Sony fanboy with an avatar of the most over hyped series in history.

Whats Fable have to do with this new game?.

PureGamer: You don't have to be in here.

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wageslave - 701 days 3 hours ago

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It got great reviews and sold very well.

What do you mean "overhype"?

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ichimaru - 701 days 11 hours ago

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co-op and this game is platnium from day one

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SpaceCowgirl - 701 days 9 hours ago

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So this article dosen't actually tells us the announcement? its just

"Zomg you guys! People will be announcing things and the GDC can you believe it?"

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Evoluti0n - 701 days 8 hours ago

18 - In all fairness

If you look at the FF series, most titles have sold between 5 million and 9 million.

The ps2's install base is just plain ridiculous.

Then you look at Fable, which has sold around 2.5 million.

The Xbox install base is nowhere near that of the ps2's.

So, with that being said, doesn't that mean Fable pretty much held it's own and did fairly well?

Also, the FF series is a well-established franchise, as opposed to, Fable being a new IP.

They still release games on the ps2, the Xbox...not so much

Think about it.

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pshizle - 701 days 8 hours ago

19 - cant wait

for this game...hope it will live up to what the first one did not!!!

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pshizle - 701 days 8 hours ago

20 - to be honest hear

for me Fable1 did not live up to the hype but i can see Fable2 will...if not Peter needs to ...

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wageslave - 701 days 3 hours ago

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Here are my guesses:

1) Co-Op multiplayer.
2) "Play as the Bad-Guy" ala the Zombies in Left-4-Dead.
3) Continuous game-world, not a MMORPG per-se, but users adventure in a co-ordinated game world.

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Ureval - 701 days ago

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I was super psyched for Fable 1 and was let down. It wasnt a bad game but not the game Peter built it up to be. I envisioned it as Morrowind meets Zelda and it was nothing of the sort. I want to believe in Fable 2 but Ive got to read the reviews first.

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