Valve: 360 Community Head and Shoulders Above PS3

The_Darkest_Red - 40 days 5 hours ago

I like Valve's games, they are solid. Having said that, these guys make some of the lamest excuses I have ever heard for not developing a game on a certain platform.

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Darkeyes - 40 days 5 hours ago

So now these @ssholes blame the PS3 community as the reason L4D2 not being on it what CRAP.. You guys went on record saying PS3 is too difficult for you'll to develop.... Don't blame the lack of 'talent' on the PS3 community.. Frankly speaking no one cares about L4D2 on the PS3. The game can be even experienced on a middle to low spec PC, so no great fuss about losing it on the PS3 as the game is made for PC....

But seriously Valve, if you aren't developing on the PS3 then just STFU and mind your own business. We don't want some crap filthy reason taken from Gabes fat @ss.... It's not as if we are crying here for L4D2... So again... Mind your own business.

@Below: According to latest numbers, ODST sold 1.8 million till date and Uc2 sold 1 million in first week (so both might be on par as UC2 landed later)... Stop using VGSh!t in giving numbers as they always blow stuff (Ps3 still is at 25 million at VGZ when Sony officially gave a 27 million figure).... and remove that 'SUPPOSEDLY' after Uncharted 2... It IS the best single player campaign as a TPS.

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deadreckoning666 - 40 days 5 hours ago

Regardless of what PS3 fanboys say, Valve's right. The 360 online community does spend more money and most of them use mics(mostly due to the fact that the 360 comes with a mic).

Plus the 360 community supports their exclusives better:

Halo:ODST(called an "expansion pack" by PS3 fanboys)- 2 million sold on day one.

Uncharted 2(supposedly "the best single-player campaign ever that nothing on the 360 can compare to)- 300,000 copies sold on day one.

Anyone else see a HUGE contradiction here? I only game on the PS3, but I KNOW that Live is better from countless bouts of COD4 ive had at friends houses. The only reason I don't game on Live is because I don't feel Live is worth 50 bucks a year. PSN DOES have the better value, but Live IS better.

Edit: Whatever u say Darkeyes, didn't mean to anger you...I say "supposedly' cause I haven't played U2 myself yet. I'm happy YOU enjoyed the game though.

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Chubear - 40 days 5 hours ago

Valve crack me up XD

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ThanatosDMC - 40 days 5 hours ago

Apparently, people who play on the PSN doesnt have any friends?! I have 12 IRL friends then there's everybody else. I just delete those that start spamming me with chain messages.

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Cold 2000 - 40 days 5 hours ago

Lol not so sure about that.

360 owners and PS3 owners are pretty much the same demography hence why some of the best selling games on both consoles are almost exactly the same games when u take away the exclusives: Modern Warfare, GTA4, Assasins Creed, Fallout 3, Oblivion, Madden etc etc.

So its a pretty lame excuse.

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Darkstorn - 40 days 5 hours ago

Are you kidding me? Xbox Live is full of racists, homophobics, and little kids screaming their heads off. I've only had one bad experience on PSN and that was while playing Killzone 2 without a headset and some guy started shooting his mouth off right when my mom walked in...so it was mainly my fault.

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cRaZyLeGs 93 - 40 days 5 hours ago

I think its also because they made a bad game for the PS3. I wouldn't blame them for not wanting Left 4 Dead on PS3.

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legendkilla - 40 days 5 hours ago

these guys really need to STFU!!! make a decent game then someone might care about what you say...

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Darkstorn - 40 days 5 hours ago

@1.3-
That's because the 360 comes with mics. I agree that the PS3 should also include one, but it's really not that big a deal.

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GWAVE - 40 days 5 hours ago

Yeah, Valve would say that, because the 360 community is definitely head and shoulders above the PS3 community when it comes to...

- buying expensive DLC that is free on other platforms
- accepting crappy graphics
- buying rehashes of games they already own

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raztad - 40 days 5 hours ago

Valve is so lame. Why to make excuses and blame on "the community"? STFU and keep doing what you want to do. Geez

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presto717 - 40 days 5 hours ago

STFU about the ps3. Its fine you don't develop for us. You know what, WE DON'T NEED YOU!!. Just leave us alone, okay?

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paul0388 - 40 days 5 hours ago

OK, I may use Steam for all of my PC gaming purchases, but seriously, this company is full of fanboys.

IF THIS WAS 2007, IT WOULD BE MILDLY ACCEPTABLE. It's 2009, the PS3 has come a long way, but they seem to be stuck in the past as it shows with their ignorance... Just like every other PS3 hater.

Shame on you Valve...

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JsonHenry - 40 days 5 hours ago

I game on both the 360 and the PS3. While they both offer similiar features, I feel that the 360 does a better job with its online features.

Much better friends data, the ability to see where the player is doing/level they are on by simply using the dashboard, the ability to join games through the dashboard, cross game chat, EVERYONE has a mic on the 360.. but then again you do PAY for it, so it better have some advantages over the PSN.

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Motion - 40 days 5 hours ago

"The 360 online community does spend more money"
Of course they do. An average of about $50 a year more :p

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Hellsvacancy - 40 days 5 hours ago

Does Valve honestly think us Ps3 owners REALLY REALLY REALLY want there games on the Ps3? coz if they do - HAHAHAHAHA on them

Admittedly i would like 2 play Half Life 2 but i shall buy a new laptop b4 years end and get it 4 that

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Perjoss - 40 days 5 hours ago

people don't like what Gabe has to say about the ps3, but there are tons of multiplats looking better on 360 to back up what he said about the ps3 being hard to develop on.

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frostypants - 40 days 5 hours ago

They are entitled to their opinion in regards to online communities, however highly questionable it may be.

However, to claim this as the reason for not porting it is typical Valve garbage. There is a ton of money to be made on the PS3 that they are leaving on the table, so the relative online communities is an utterly irrelevent concern.

Can't these conceited blowhards just admit that they don't know how to program for the PS3? They are locked down to the PC model and don't want to be bothered to learn a new scheme. It's obvious and they are being disingenuous as all hell about it. Their egos won't allow them to admit what everyone else can clearly see.

Just like they have become overly comfortable cranking out derivative (though high quality) FPS games, they have become overly comfortable in their development environment. They fear change.

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mastiffchild - 40 days 5 hours ago

Look at that freak! With him and Gabe they have some ugly dudes at the old Valve offices!

Anyway I'm sick of being lied to by the industry this week after IW's PC excuses BS and won't take it off Valve as well.

They SHOULD put L4D1 and 2 on PS3 as it could ve a lot better than what it is on 360. The support PSN offered for UT3 could be given to it and MS, as Valve know, just won't allow mods and stuff on the 360(nothing for free) which makes L4D on 360 a sheer waste of your time esp as you have to pay more for it too!

If you can't get it on your PC don't ge it. I have it for both and, rest assured, the 360 game never coes out of it's box while I often play on PC to this day as there's real support on that platfrm-which Sony might have allowed but MS won't on console. It's a shadow of the PC exerience and just not worth buying-Valve suport it as it's lots of cash for zero effort for them and should say so. It certainly isn't about "community" as they do nothing, or allowed to do nothing to create one on 360. Annoys the hell out of me and if it was to come to PS3 in the same form it is on 360 I'd still say it was crap by comparison.Just more lies for gamers.

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vega75 - 40 days 4 hours ago

- buying expensive DLC that is free on other platforms= YEAH sure we do.i guess you know what people buy. guess thats one of the reason why sonyfans be crying about MS paying for exclusive DLC. and yet you guys pay real money for fake funiture and clothes in home. when it's free on other plat-forms

- accepting crappy graphics= i rather have crappy graphic then lame gameplay. thats just me.

- buying rehashes of games they already own= GoW 1&2 says hi.

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ABizzel1 - 40 days 4 hours ago

This is so much BS.

"Right now for Left 4 Dead 2 we're looking at PC and 360 because the community aspects really fit the game - it's all about playing with your friends."

Why in the hell do we have a friends list on PSN. If it's not to play with your friends then I don't know what it's for. This is complete BS. I play Left 4 Dead all the time, and even though the 360 comes with mics, there have been many a time where I've play with numerous amounts of people who don't use the mic, so that cuts out the mic issue. Not to mention most of the people who have mics on XBL are annoying 10 year olds, or people who get on and talk shigady the whole game, so what's the point of mics besides talking shigady back and forth.

XBL mic usage 75%
PSN mic usage 40%

XBL shigady talk 80%
PSN shigady talk 30%

It makes you glad that everyone doesn't have a mic all the time (I love the mute button as well).

What else is there then.

Cross game chat. If so that's complete BS if someone's going to play a specific game, their going to play it. Send them a message to their X-Media bar, and go on about your business. Cross game chat is a convenience and nothing more.

This is another excuse from Valve, and frankly I think it's an attempt to sway the 360 audience more since, they know they won't be developing for the PS3. And it's wise not to develop for the PS3 at this point, because Valve will be bashed out of this world by PS3 gamers for all the BS they spread over this gen.

The community excuse is pure BS, Valve just don't want to come out of pocket and make the PS3 version. Valve may as well be a 1st or 2nd party studio for MS.

Before all the hate comes about why is it not fair for Valve to make 360 exclusives, but it's ok for Insomniac.

A: Because Insomniac doesn't talk shigady about why they don't make games for the 360. They just up and say their PS exclusive. Whereas Valve "I'm to fat, cheap, and lazy to make a PS3 game so I'm gonna talk shigady about. That's why PS3 gamers get riled up.

But once again it's good to have both systems, but I stand up for what is right, and Valve was wrong once again for the BS their spreading.

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Ironmantrunx - 40 days 4 hours ago

Whine, complain, whine. It's all they ever do, they need to grow up, and if things are too difficult just let it go. Hopefully someone will eventually buy them out, and make them learn something new, but till then I got plenty of other games to use my money on.

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wxer - 40 days 4 hours ago

well they did hate the PS3 from the get go
by the way where is gabe ??
oh here he is
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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GrandTheftStreetcar - 40 days 4 hours ago

So Valve now cares about gamers experience, and not about profit? So, why single out PS3 gamers? They are hopeless fanboys.

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SL1M DADDY - 40 days 4 hours ago

It's called COD: World at War - Nazi Zombies. Much more fun and guess what? It works flawlessly on the PSN - FOR FREE!

And on another note... WHERE THE HECK IS HALF LIFE 2: EPISODE 3?!!! Come Valve, get off your arses and get it on!

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Persistantthug - 40 days 4 hours ago

To this day I play GTA 4 Online (I love GTA RACING), and I am able to party up with my friends at anytime. WHY? Because I the game was designed to do that. Obviously if the game is designed to have a party up or "add friends to game" option, then what's the problem?

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Jaces - 40 days 4 hours ago

I have friends, I play online with friends.

What's he trying to say again?

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DaTruth - 40 days 4 hours ago

PS3 owners actually have real life friends and so they don't care to make friends online.

So technically, there is some truth to this. But it is a compliment!

Nothin' I hate more than an online "begfren"!(begs for friends)

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slayorofgods - 40 days 4 hours ago

what does the 360 dandruff community have to do with anything.

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gaffyh - 40 days 4 hours ago

Valve must be the dumbest developer around. How stupid can they be? They are constantly putting the PS3 down, pissing off almost 30 million PS3 owners.

What happens now if they release a game on PS3 that's actually good (i.e. works unlike Orange Box) then? No one buys it because of their stupid snide comments.

No doubt they make some great games, but learn how to play the PR game or STFU valve!

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Why o why - 40 days 4 hours ago

Jamaican term

anyhow ive only made a few friends online. I prefer normal methods IF any.

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Killjoy3000 - 40 days 4 hours ago

How can Valve overgeneralize an entire community of people? These guys are almost as outlandish as Turned 10. I cannot believe the audacity some people have to make a final judgement on one quality of millions of people.

This statement is just narrow-minded and ignorant. The stupidity present is irreprible.

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Xgamerzus - 40 days 4 hours ago

Valve is lucky to have PC360 as the new low beduget PC gamer base ,very lucky!!
If MS had decided to go the proprietary console route like Sony's Cell PS3 then Valve would most likely being doing bad ports on both systems and not even stand a chance against first party devs who own the Consoles..And PC's gaming for Vale would of bankrupted them!!
They should be grateful That Nintendo didn't go that route as well..
Im sure a 8 core specialized Wii with Hard drive and 512 Ram and 50GBps GPU would of doomed MS and left Sony in 2nd,.
And PC's in dead last.
BUt we didn't see this..
We have idiots that got to 360 for PC gaming not knowing that the games are all PC games FPS FPS FPS FPS made for Mouse and keyboard..
Sad Valve is gonna loose eventually to ID and Epic and Crysis etc in terms of tech cause they market too much and have not talent.

VALVE engine looks dated...cob webs..

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dreamcast - 40 days 4 hours ago

'"Right now for Left 4 Dead 2 we're looking at PC and 360 because the community aspects really fit the game - it's all about playing with your friends," he said.'

I didn't know I couldn't play with my friends on my PS3. You learn something new every day!

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darkride66 - 40 days 4 hours ago

All I can think of is this guy has never played on a PS3. That's the only reason I can think of that he'd make such a confused statement.

Anyone have any idea where there guy is coming from. I can't even comprehend what he's getting at having used both XBL and PSN extensively over the years. What on earth could he be referring to?

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sikbeta - 40 days 4 hours ago

I sound better to say they don't want to make a game for PS3, instead of say an stupid excuse IMO, honesty is better

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Foliage - 40 days 3 hours ago

Seeing as Steam is the biggest POS out there, what does this clown know?

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Whitefox789 - 40 days 3 hours ago

*looks at PSN Friends List*

Hmm I wonder what these guys are?

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pixelsword - 40 days 3 hours ago

Valve will be eating a lot of crow.

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Soda Popinsky - 40 days 3 hours ago

I don't think PSN shares the same level of user activity as Xbox Live. Even though I know many of you want Sony to be best at everything and "M$" to always be bad and fail, the online part is something the 360 is prominent in this gen.

Think about it, how come Sony never release any numbers for PSN activity? Because it would look good in comparison to MS numbers? Nah.

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kws1065 - 40 days 3 hours ago

does Valve blame the other while all the causes come from their lazy ass?

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ultimolu - 40 days 2 hours ago

...I lol'd.

*shakes head at Valve*

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jadenkorri - 40 days 2 hours ago

as a big fan of Half life, it disappoints me that a company makes such lame excuses not to develop for another console, of course the ps3. Both fanboy sides have either defended valve or accused them of being lazy of the sort. I laugh when 360 fanboys point out that sonys exclusive devs like Naughty Dog, guerrilla games and sucker punch didn't produce them on 360. Its really easy to point out thou that those companys have not come out and said the 360 is too hard to program for, or better yet the 360 community is not strong enough for their game. Valve has become arrogant just like sony was when the ps3 launched, but they could at least have the respect of at least saying they don't want to produce for the ps3 and not try to cover it up with lame excuses. Valves arrogance is costing them money with the lame excuses and constant hatred of the ps3. I will enjoy L4D 2 the same way I enjoyed the first one, on my PC, pirated, as i will enjoy the rest of their games until they make games for the ps3 or at least have the balls to admit they just don't want to program for the ps3 or admit having an exclusive contract with MS.

BTW valve, ask any manager who keeps coming up with excuse after excuse for not completing something on time or forgot to do, what happens to that person....

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Sub4Dis - 40 days 2 hours ago

Valve doesn't "go around" trash talking ps3. you see, there this is thing out there called journalism. and within the journalism community there are these people called journalists. and well...it's their job to get news for their respective companies. they do this by conducting interviews with various members of the gaming community. and one of the things they often do during an interview is ask questions. and often those questions may sound like this. "how do you feel about developing for whatever?" and then the interviewee will respond with their views on the subject.

i know this is very hard to understand, took me years to grapple with the concept.

so valve doesn't "go around," they are asked. and they answer these very difficult questions with difficult answers.

and as for the comment, they are right. i play UC 2 for about 1-2 hours each night and ppl rarely have mics. and when they do have them, they are complete elitist jerks who freak out at the mere mention of a flaw in a ps3 game or a praise toward a 360 game. and yes, they are also occasionally racists, often foul mouths, and rarely ever nice, collaborative players. it would be a chore to find 3 nice, fun ppl to play a game that depends heavily on cooperation on the playstation network.

i own both systems, but this year i have def spent more time on psn than live. but on this issue, it's not really debatable. not with facts anyway. the problem is, on both sides, gamers (along with sports fanatics, religious freaks, etc..) just have really mundane lives and they need to champion something to make them feel like their lives have meaning, so they rally behind something much like a religion or ideology. unfortunately, just like in religion, people really lack the ability to be objective and so they only see what they want to see...especially if they only own one system. in the case of those of us who own both, we can see the night and day difference between the online communities. i'm not saying psn is bad, just saying it's trailing behind live by a considerable measure.

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NoBias - 40 days 2 hours ago

Even you PS3 fanboys ADMITTED it a week or so back in a thread about "Should Sony Package Headsets". Most all of you said "No, I only use my headset if a friend is online and never any other time." The PS3 community doesn't show team work through strangers at all...

The only game that does exhibit this is the SOCOM community where it's pretty much required that you own a mic or you'll get kicked out of the game from other players. Hence why it's only 1 of 2 multiplayer games I play on my PS3 (SOCOM and Uncharted 2 - even tho people don't talk on that either...) Besides that, it's single player campaigns on PS3 for me.

Other than that, playing any multiplayer PSN game online is barren, dry and communication-free. How you all can sit here and lie saying that it isn't is absolute BS. L4D is a serious team-work game and it takes communication to beat the levels. Most PS3 fanboys wouldn't know that but "claim" they know L4D. If you don't work together, you will die.

So yes, I agree, PC and 360 community are more geared towards games that take team work. A lot more hardcore players choose 360 because of this. Playing shooters without comm's is called casual play. I'm a hardcore multiplayer-gamer so when I encounter people without mics on PSN, it pisses me off. Stick to single player campaigns if you don't plan on communicating. You mess it up for everyone else.

DaTruth Writes:

"PS3 owners actually have real life friends and so they don't care to make friends online."

EDIT: I see...

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vhero - 40 days 2 hours ago

Why cant they just admit they cannot make games on anything but a PC? Before you say 360 it's basically a weak ass PC in a box but dedicated to games and trash social crap so that's why its easy to develop games for. If you can do PC games then 360 games should be easy. They are nothing but a bunch of lazy devs that's why they got EA to do Orange Box for them.

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DaTruth - 40 days 2 hours ago

"PS3 owners actually have real life friends and so they don't care to make friends online."

Sorry, forgot to put the j/k after my comment.

More of a jab at his statement than 360 owners! I don't care if the fanboys take it as a jab!

@Nobias: I didn't say that other stuff you wrote! And the apology was made before I read your comment. We take these little jabs at each other all the time; Don't take it so personally!

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Shepherd 214 - 40 days 2 hours ago

Valve made the amazing Half life 2 and its episodes, which makes all of your opinions obsolete. They are right, the community for 360 is much more alive and has many more fluid features than PSN, such as cross game chat, community playdates. The PSN community is filled with 30-40 year olds who dont really know what fun is, but its not like you would ever know that since no one on PSN uses mics.

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WenisWagon - 40 days 1 hour ago

Truer words have never been spoken.

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nolifeking - 40 days 5 hours ago

What's true about it? You boot the game and either A)join an open party or B)make your own. If memory serves correct, I think those features are available on psn.

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Biggunz - 40 days 5 hours ago

What Failiszek needs to realize is L4D2 is no big loss for PS3 owners.

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xxPIETROxx - 40 days 5 hours ago

it just shows they are incredibly lazy developers. its not like PS3 gamers need this game its just embarassing for EA that they work along side such a group of lazy bastards. i mean look at the shoddy graphics, its like they are not even trying.

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ReviewsArePolitics - 40 days 5 hours ago

When they have no PS3 and if they do they rarely use it so they don't know what they are talking about

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Sir Ken_Kutaragi - 40 days 4 hours ago

...eat Gabe Newell's PIES or you will be 'Left 4 Dead'!!! ;-D

I don't care about their games really(if i did i would get them for my P.C anyway) Keep talking CR*P Valve. I will NEVER EVER buy a Valve game EVER in my Lifetime;)

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PlayStation X - 40 days 4 hours ago

if they didnt chat so much sh1t maybe the ps3 community would like em =/

but tbf i really aint bothered if valve makes ps3 games theres planty of better games about

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talltony - 40 days 4 hours ago

Its because valve has decided to only work on PC architecture cause they dont like to learn new things. If left 4 dead was on ps3 then people would play it and alot of people would talk the same way they talk in uncharted 2 cause almost everyone has mics in that game. And last time I checked doesnt psn have a more mature online community than live? To me the people that buy the console makes the community and let me just say live has more whiny immature racists and 12 year olds than psn does.

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dtrain21 - 40 days 4 hours ago

PS3 fanboys do not buy games and online sucks. Only Xbox gamers buy games and superior LIVE. I love Valve. Please don't hate i'm sensative

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Foliage - 40 days 3 hours ago

Actually 360 users buy "a game". Since there is no variety, and no choice, the sales figures are bloated. The PS3 has a wider and better library, and the PS3 users don't all have to floak to a single title. Most publishers claim PS3 is selling more software, especially when you consider the year lead the 360 had, and how they should have more consoles out there.

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Man_of_the_year - 40 days 3 hours ago

"Funny how Xtards think it's true"

Funny how Sfags think its not.

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nix - 40 days 3 hours ago

yeah.. people who don't have PS3 don't know how PSN works. i have a colleague who owns 360. so i was telling him that he should move to PS3 because it's got better games and it's cheaper.. then i told him that you don't have to pay to play online. then he asked me, "so how do you play?" it was such an awkward situation because i didn't know how to explain it. so i just told him, you just have to buy a game and go online and play.

i wouldn't call him a Xtard though... just an uneducated gamer who picked up the wrong console. q:

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Shepherd 214 - 40 days 2 hours ago

Valve made the amazing Half-Life 2 and its episodes, which makes all of your opinions obsolete. Valve made much more innovations with their games than Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2 will ever hope to achieve. The only thing you guys have is "teh g00d graphix", but Half-Life 2 had the best graphics around 5 years ago so graphics cant even be argued.

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Kleptic - 40 days 2 hours ago

regardless of the talent that makes up valve as a dev...I am lost as to what this guy is saying...

so is it 'we [valve] are way behind in console development'...or is it 'we don't focus on the PS3 because they don't play games with their friends?'...

sorry chet...if you are trying to say Sony doesn't no how to build an online community, or hasn't yet with the PS3...you are nothing short of a fawking idiot...as the PSN is MUCH MORE like a PC environment in every single way compared to the gestapo like approach MS has with xbl...

if you are saying PS3 owners don't play games with friends...you are right...I have not once played killzone 2, cod 4, LBP, R2, Rfom, GT5P, etc. etc. etc. with a single one of my friends...

something about that guys face needs punched as well...

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Shane Kim - 40 days ago

Guys, guys, guys...Gabe Newell. Need I say more? I mean just look at the body attribute and you know what Valve is made of. Yup a bunch of lazy developers.

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slayorofgods - 40 days ago

I can see that Valve has not learned it's lesson from Turn 10.

MS developers = way ahead of ps3 developers in sh!t talking and turning away new users. I will not support these low class bottom feeding techniques.

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buying1999 - 40 days 5 hours ago

needs to train these noobs on programming for a PS3.

PS3...Get on board or get left behind!!

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talltony - 40 days 4 hours ago

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cyborg6971 - 40 days 3 hours ago

True that

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Shepherd 214 - 40 days 2 hours ago

The greatest PC developers of the last two gaming generations does not like the PS3, and you fools think you are smart enough to argue with them? Arrogance and ignorance, id like to cram it into a sandwich and nom nom its deliciousness.

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xcox - 39 days 23 hours ago

"The greatest PC developers of the last two gaming generations does not like the PS3, and you fools think you are smart enough to argue with them?"

the biggest fat f@ck PC loser doesn't like the PS3? oh gee big f@cking deal, we're so screwed, ha!

you can keep polishing that c0ck, baboon cuz we got too many AAA games to play, we don't have time for fat f@ck wankers with a big mouth and crappy overhyped minigames

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chrisulloa - 39 days 23 hours ago

LOL Valve > Naughty Dog

Valve came up with Half-Life, Portal, and a dozen other incredible games.

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chrisulloa - 39 days 18 hours ago

True, but a lot of console owners don't have PC's. I never really cared for mods anyways, but I know a lot of people do.

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nolifeking - 40 days 5 hours ago

Yeah that seems reasonable. I mean why would anybody just shoot it after hearing him say it through the tv speakers.

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fadic4 - 40 days 5 hours ago

do you even play on psn?

@below: he cant see him self playing online without his 10 year old friends screaming at each other, itd be a big loss for him.

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xxPIETROxx - 40 days 5 hours ago

plenty of people have mics, you just dont get the quantity of retards abusing each other online, o breathing heavily like you the 360.

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Murderdolls - 40 days 5 hours ago

I haven't touched my PS3 in months so no I don't play on PSN the handful of times I did though it was a ghost town. I play Valve games on the PC with a group of people I've known for years.

We're all over the age of 19 so your "10 year old" insults are pathetic.

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nix - 40 days 3 hours ago

which means he just turned 20... give him some respect guys.. we have a man amongst us.

but still you're lame.

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ajkla92 - 40 days 2 hours ago

You: "A hunter jumped on me! help!111!!"
10year old kid: "Oh look he's teabaggin you lolololololll"
12year old kid: "hahahahahahah"
another 10 year old: "here i'll throw a molotov to help you (kills everyone)"

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abc1233 - 40 days 1 hour ago

damn, yeah, since playstation doesn't have complete support for all mobile bluetooth headsets and xbox does, no one on plsyation uses a mic......oh wait.

as for valve, they must be the type of people who love racist geeky american kids who go on XBL just to start a cuss match. XBL is the greatest frickin community in the world, its like a utopia isn't it?

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Murderdolls - 39 days 23 hours ago

Which means I just turned 19.

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likedamaster - 39 days 23 hours ago

LOL... Hilarious.

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dreamcast - 39 days 5 hours ago

Didn't know you needed a mic to hear other people talking =/

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Theoneneo81 - 40 days 5 hours ago

Im boycoting Valve till they stop being lazy and start actaully trying make ps3 ports.

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shutupandplay - 40 days 5 hours ago

LOL. MOAR ps3 gamers pretending they don`t want this game.

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fadic4 - 40 days 5 hours ago

im good, there is alot of games coming out this holiday, multis and exclusives for ps3. i can pass on this crap.

is that when your 360 comes back from M$ or when your buying a new xbl membership?

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LUCKYXS7LEVEN - 40 days 3 hours ago

if i want Zombie game i'll buy deadrising 2 or just play R2 co-op. just look at the graphics in this game , what year are we in 1997?

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