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MS Gives Devs Option to Remove Private Chat from Upcoming Titles

Do you like to use the party chat option on your Xbox 360? Well, if you do, you may soon find yourself being forced out of using that option. Microsoft appears to be offering developers the option to negate the private chat option the Xbox 360 offers. Currently, players have the option of forming a private chat with players, but that will soon change.
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Published: 34 days 7 hours ago | News | Xbox 360
 
 

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kaveti6616 - 34 days 8 hours ago
1 - "MS Forcefully Removes Private Chat from Upcoming Titles"
Read the title, read the article, and then see if it matches up. MS is not "forcefully" removing the feature. It is allowing developers the choice of removing the feature from their game based on how they want their multiplayer to be experienced. So what MS is doing is giving developers more freedom.

Unfortunately, the examiner just posted the title for hits.
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Saaking - 34 days 7 hours ago
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Damage control already? Why would MS take these feature (one of the FEW things XBL has over PSN) away? If devs have the choice to do less work they'll take it.
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Nuri - 34 days 7 hours ago
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I agree with kaveti6616 the actual context of the paragraph provided and the article itself does not equal what the title portrays or rather tries to. Microsoft isn't forcibly removing it, they are allowing developers the opportunity whether to do so or not. It's pretty much the same as to how Sony gives developers the option whether or not to include music streaming.
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kaveti6616 - 34 days 7 hours ago
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No, Saaking. Microsoft is allowing developers to decide whether or not they want players who play the multiplayer feature to be able to communicate certain kinds of information to each other in certain multiplayer modes. For example, if you're playing a standard 5 on 5 deathmatch and you get killed, if you're in a private chat, you can tell your teammates exactly where the enemy is, what weapon he killed you with, etc. Maybe the developer wants to make that mode more challenging by not allowing teammates that level of communication ability. Microsoft is allowing developers that choice.

And your claim that developers will suddenly remove private chat from their games because they don't have to do it is moot. You have no idea what developers think. Sony never had a rule that said PS3 games HAD to run at certain resolutions, but nevertheless developers strive for more. You assume the developers are lazy and only do what they HAVE to? How cynical can you be?

On a side note, I'm only formally explaining this to you so that other people on this site who aren't biased will understand what Microsoft is doing. I am already fully aware that you're a fanboy retard with no life who does nothing but bash Microsoft every other post.
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pixelsword - 34 days 7 hours ago
1.4 - This title is misleading
Giving the designer more options without forcing one or another thing to enhance gameplay is what Microsoft is doing... versus requiring something in a unilateral way that could hurt gameplay.

Because of the title, this article is near Lame if not outright Fake; this is definitely a "question mark" title if I ever saw one.
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El_Colombiano - 34 days 7 hours ago
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Microsoft is just jealous of Demon's Souls online where no vocals adds to the atmosphere.
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Sarcasm - 34 days 7 hours ago
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They are making so it's not 'mandatory'

Maybe they feel it's hindering some game development.
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ReservoirDog316 - 34 days 7 hours ago
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If I'm understanding right, that's actually a good idea. I always here people saying that it ruins games because you could just tell your team where people are when you die.

So taking it out, or the ability to take it out, is actually a good idea.
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Parapraxis - 34 days 7 hours ago
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This is actually a very good idea.
Wouldn't be surprised if MW2 was the first game to have party chat disabled.
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Blaze929 - 34 days 7 hours ago
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theres a difference between party chat and private chat. Private chat is 1 on 1 chat that has been availible since day 1 and isn't going anywhere and can still be used while playing any game, even MW2. PARTY CHAT is what is now in the hands of developers.

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FFS it even SAYS "Party Chat option not available." In the article's screenshot box. Who the hell wrote/submitted this crap?
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GRRiMREEAPeR - 34 days 6 hours ago
1.11 - Exactly
This article has a 'fox news' level spin on it smh. mw2 IS the first game to implement it, infact i wouldn't be surprised if it was their idea in the first place. private chat can ruin certain game modes (ie SnD) in COD so by making this an optional feature micro and IW are enhancing the game in a very big way. Think before u comment please.
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Xbox Avatars Shoe - 34 days 6 hours ago
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I hope Sony's cross-game chat isn't like their custom soundtracks where it's up to the developers! Almost NO game on PS3 support custom sound tracks! Since the music isn't directly through the XMB like custom sound tracks are on 360, you can't listen to it while playing a demo or an older PS3 game. I know the reason why PS3 custom soundtracks are up to developers is because M$ has a patent but M$ does NOT have a patent for cross-game voice chat so hopefully it'll be universal across all games, demos, videos and the web browser.

In regards to 360's Party Chat and this article, I would actually like certain game modes to have Party Chat blocked. I love cross-game Party Chat but I have to admit, I get pissed when I join a Nazi Zombies game and the 3 other players are each in their own separate Party Chat so there's no communication and team work between any of us. It happens pretty often and it goes like this:

Player 1 is in PC with his friends
Player 2 is in a different PC than Player 1
Player 3 is in different PC than Player 1 and 2
And I'm in Game Chat talking to myself

So, all four players aren't talking to each other, so there's to team work, so we only make it to like round 20 >.<
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PimpHandHappy - 34 days 6 hours ago
1.13 - #1
is right

private chat/cross game chat is being used for cheats and i like that MS is doing this...

i dont own a 360 and never will but im guessing this private chat is also what is used in cross game chat

anyway
2many cheats online to start with... so its good if this will limit the amount of cheating a few ppl teamed up can do
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Ausbo - 34 days 5 hours ago
1.14 - Wow
the examiner and everyone who work for it are jokes.

All i ever see from this site is flamebait, misleading and/or false titles.
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Redempteur - 34 days 4 hours ago
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what's with that escuse ?

Sorry First if you are killed by someone in a fps ...

-Your allies will see you disappear on the map ( giving an idea or the ennemy location )
-There is voice chat already ..
- Will you spend ALL YOUR TIME typing and your allies waste precious seconds reading this ... while an ennemy might come and kill you ?

That's sad really ...
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The Lazy One - 34 days ago
1.16 - @1.1
The private chat and party chat are both dashboard features. They run outside the game on M$ things. All the developer should have to do is throw in a single global variable saying whether or not chat should be allowed.
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Soda Popinsky - 33 days 23 hours ago
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Can someone please tell me what's the difference between private chat and a party chat with 2 persons?

And that's why they are giving developers the option to remove private chat. It's superflous as party chat holds the same function.
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Lightsaber - 33 days 22 hours ago
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This is completely fake. They have no proof other then random pic. They prove no source for this pic so it was probably done in photoshop. Also MS REQUIRES devs to add private chat to all games.
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corneliuscrust - 33 days 13 hours ago
1.20 - gonna do your best to post that in EVERY
360 related article?

that's some SAAAAD trolling right there, little man. You don't even change how you type it. Just copy pasta this "exciting news" to spam everywhere you can.

We KNOW that GT5 is a better looking, more polished racer than forza. Anyone with eyes knows that.

But what's this article about? Forza? GT5? PS3? NO.. take your flamebait to the open zone. I encourage everyone to report this sort of behaviour. Mnichols, that's jusst plain pathetic
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Alcon Caper - 33 days 12 hours ago
1.21 - kaveti6616
You're my hero.
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dib8rman - 33 days 11 hours ago
1.22 - OP
It's simple, whats good for developers doesn't mean it's good for the customer.

Downloadable and pay per play and expansions are good for the developers, but spending $200 on something you don't own and have no way of showing it's value or interest, it's a trap for the customer.

Get it strait man, your being used. How can someone argue that taking away the option is a good thing?

What if developers in turn decide to make it part of some content pack, or even worse part of a monthly "bonus experience" fee... If you think it's impossible... believe it or not, years ago we used to think pay to play games wouldn't be big. We as in gamers.

Gamers don't make games with episodic content, and downloadable content and absurd ammounts of expansion packs, monthly fees and so on. Gamers used to make games for gamers, at some point the industry lost touch with that. We wouldn't have so many people going around drilling lies into our eyes if they still had the talent they used to.

/rant
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Alcon Caper - 33 days 9 hours ago
1.23 - dib8rman
get off your high horse. it's completely an option FOR the gamer.

"Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 will force players to decide whether or not they’ll play the game and join the game chat, or choose to stay in a private chat and not play in the multiplayer game."

Get it? They are forced to DECIDE. MS isn't forcing anything, they're giving devs the option of giving players the option of choosing a party-chat-allowed game or a party-chat-free game.

Your /rant has nothing to do with the article and your attack on devs for not choosing what's best for the gamer is completely unrelated to the article. By generalizing abuse to freedoms that a company gives to its developers is short sided and biased.

This is GOOD because it gives us gamers more options. I just don't understand some people.
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dib8rman - 29 days 15 hours ago
1.24 - @Guy above
That's directed at the original post nothing to do with the article.

I mean if you read my comment line it said @OP
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Menchi - 34 days 7 hours ago
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I think it'd more of a downside than anything. It should be up to the player whom they wish to speak with.
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I am Legend - 34 days 7 hours ago
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Exactly.

What is this world coming to ?

EDIT :

I did.
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StanLee - 34 days 7 hours ago
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PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE BEFORE COMMENTING. PEACE.
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Lightsaber - 33 days 20 hours ago
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if this is true I'd never buy a game that disabled private chat
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Tjtroublemaker - 33 days 13 hours ago
2.4 - Iffy topic
i dont know whether to think this is good or bad, while sometimes i do like to have a private conversation with my friends, not having to worry about some dusch interrupting and having to mute everyone, i also sometimes feel alone when im playing a 4v4 game in Halo3 and find myself trying to save a teammate by saying someone is behind him but realize im talking to myself. Dont know how this is gonna work out...i guess you can make everyone happy all the time.
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Blaster_Master - 34 days 7 hours ago
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Im not paying for live if they take this feature out while im playing COD6.
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drewboy704 - 34 days 4 hours ago
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If they made a petition id definetly sign. Maybe with we can get half the nearly 2 million people who preordered the game for the 360 they'll disable the feature. If not. F**k Activision and Infinity ward. What r they trying to do help Sony sell more copies since Live's bigthing is party chat and without that were r my $4 a month going.
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BX81 - 34 days 7 hours ago
4 - Hmm
If it's taken away in MW2 I think it should be taken out for certain game play types not all. I can see S&D being one of them.
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josh14399 - 34 days 7 hours ago
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i understand why they did this but i think its crap to be honest because i tend to join private chat with my mates so i dont have to chat to the annoying children that are in most live games.
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GiantEnemyCrab - 34 days 7 hours ago
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People are using it to cheat so they are making it an option for the developer if they feel the party chat could lead to it happening in there game.

Nothing forcefully is being removed and once again this MattyF guy throws his journalistic integrity out the window for cheap hits. Dude is one of the biggest fails in gaming blogs since Mike Ferro.
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divideby0 - 34 days 6 hours ago
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it would be LOL funny if when and if PSN allows this and they have full support for it from all developers
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peeps - 33 days 18 hours ago
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it really wouldn't lol the whole point of them doing this is to try and reduce cheating.

it would be pretty annoying playing a game like socom where dead enemies can tell their team mates where u are etc
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DragunBallZ - 34 days 6 hours ago
11 - The only people who'll complain
are the ones heavily rely on party chat to win a game.
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blu_yu_away - 34 days 4 hours ago
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Not necessarily, I'd be disappointed by this as I always prefer private chat and do not use it to cheat. I just like to be able to have a conversation with my buddies without having to deal with all of the annoying idiots on live. Often we're not even playing the same game. That said, I definitely understand why this would be necessary in games/modes which do not have respawning.
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drewboy704 - 34 days 3 hours ago
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Exactly. I hate listening to little kids who keep on talking about how good they r cause their parents let them play to much and them complaining when they loose. And every now and then u run into some old teen who thinks hes so cool but hes just being a dusch. Rather just talk to my buds. Now im gonna end up muteing half my team anyhow and some others wont have mics so it will be just me with like one person the most.
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The Lazy One - 34 days ago
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I never had a large issue with kids on live. worst case scenario, you leave the room and find another.

What I did have a problem with was being stuck on a silent team that couldn't hear me telling them any enemy locations or organizing any kind of strategy leaving me stuck in what may as well be a single player game.
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peeps - 33 days 18 hours ago
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"I just like to be able to have a conversation with my buddies without having to deal with all of the annoying idiots on live. "

you could always just mute the idiots...
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im always right - 34 days 6 hours ago
12 - GIANT ENEMY CRAB
ITS NOT CHEATING ITS MEANT TO BE A REALISTIC GAME if it were real life and u got shot your telling me u wouldnt tell your team mate where he was because that would be cheating, instead you would just let ur team mate get shot too. and before anyone says im taking this too far its juts a way of getting my point across.
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GiantEnemyCrab - 34 days 6 hours ago
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What happens in some situations is you have 2 players who are party chatting on opposite teams and giving away positions, etc. It ruins the game and I would call that cheating.
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Bzone24 - 34 days 6 hours ago
12.2 - @im always right
If you get shot and killed in real life, you aren't going to be telling your teammates anything.

That said, I'm not buying any game that has private chat disabled.
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mxpxboy - 34 days 6 hours ago
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@GiantEnemyCrab

Why would someone do that? Maybe I'm just super more competitive than others, but I would be trying to help my team win against my friends team.
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StanLee - 34 days 5 hours ago
12.4 - @ mxpxboy
It happens so often you wouldn't believe. For example, I was playing Domination on Crash on Modern Warfare and my team has the C objective and spawn. I get a UAV and I see an enemy in the building above C but I also see there is a teammate there so I pay it no mind. I die and respawn and realize the red dot is still showing on the map in the building as well as my teammate so I run into the building only to be killed by the enemy huddled above the step with my teammate. People cheat. Whether it's to accomplish challenges or to be nuisances. People cheat.
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