Xbox 360 Dev Kit at Kojima Productions?

Something strange was spotted on the Bonus DVD of the MGS4 Special edition.

[blackboyunltd]

damn i knew this was going to happen, thanks for the heads up

[UrbanJabroni]

Actually, there are revisions of both the "dev" and "Debug" kit that are virtually indistinguishable from the retail kits.

I assume you are referring to the old gray dev kits, which we haven't received in a year +

[aceitman]

did everyone forget that they make other games and they do make some on the 360 ,wii, psp , ds . so stop blowing it all out . check his site out konami.com ( pes ) hellboy (deca wii for example .

[morganfell]

We have neither black nor white dev kits. That is actually a PS3 sitting next to a regular 360.

[xhairs9]

It's probably just Microsoft's attempt at getting Kojima to make MGS4 a multiplat. Little did they know Kojima isn't a sell-out. Ko-JI-MA! KO-JI-MA!

[callahan09]

Looks like a regular 360 to me. For playing games on.

Ryan Payton has said numerous times through his various KojiPro Podcasts that the team enjoys playing Halo 3 or Gears of War sometimes on their 360's at the office and at home.

Doesn't mean they have dev kits or that they're developing for the 360, or if they are, that it's MGS4 that they're working on.

[SCThor]

They would have to make A LOT OF CHANGES to the game to be Xbox "friendly", like: *SPOILER ALERT*

-using a Zune instead of an Ipod
-using a Windows PC instead of a Mac
-using a "Non-existent" MS handheld to control the MK-II
-Removing the part:"Snake insert disk 2...oh! is a PS3..", etc etc
-Add posters of Xbox games instead of PS titles
-etc etc etc

and don't forget....make space for a 5 DVD set close to your X360.

[Lord Anubis]

they also have a wii and they play them aswell, so what with peeps getting excited. Sony's Santa Monica also have an xbox 360 does that mean God of War III X360 Comfirmed?

[Kushan]

>Nothing is going to happen. Obviously you don't have MGS4. Otherwise you would understand the technical hurdles to putting the game on the 360 are insurmountable.

Since when did owning a game make you a spokesperson for what the technical limitations are for the game or the platform it was developed for? What has owning it got to do with anything?

> They would have to make A LOT OF CHANGES to the game to be Xbox "friendly"

Umm, pretty much all of the things you listed are minor at best. Zune? Change the model of the ipod. 360 posters? A few different textures. That quip about changing disks? A few extra lines of dialogue that, for all you know, they already have recorded anyway. ""Non-existent" MS handheld to control the Mk II"? Last I checked, he was using a SIXAXIS, not a PSP. And so what, Microsoft doesn't compete in the mobile gaming arena, they could throw a DS in there if they wanted, since we already know Konami and Nintendo don't mind sharing things.

I'm not saying that I expect MGS4 on the 360 any time soon, if at all - in fact I think this so-called story is complete bullshit (that could be a regular 360, doesn't mean it's a devkit and even if it was, Konami makes 360 games as well - isn't MGS1 coming out on XBLA?), but guys seriously don't just make it worse by spreading MORE bullshit.

[TheSadTruth]

lol@morganfell saying in his deleted post he works for Konami

Game developer by day, rabbid ps3 fan by night? We're supposed to believe an adult sits here in his free time and bashes non-Sony consoles for fun? Okay, I'm convinced.

[NO_PUDding]

No but there is even more thigns than that.

It's like whole animations within the briefing missions are focused around Sunny playign a PSP (twice). And although it's redundant without the Mk II it's still soemthign they'd ahve to edit.

Voice acting isn't a two minute job, and to change quite a multitude of the dialogue, plus remove a few Easter Eggs and no Psycho Mantis encounter, you're already starting to butcher the game.

Then you have to take into account the actual density at which Apple is advertised. Sure you could have a Zune and normal PC's, but that would mean chaging the desktops for them, the videos on them, the actual setups.

I mean really, the money they'd have to pay, to get an insanely small amount changed, may not be worth bringing it to the 360, especially when it's then lacking that very important self aware element.

[Kushan]

Those are still a whole bunch of minor things that really don't matter. Do you seriously think Microsoft is going to kick up a fuss about a few Apple logos when they could get one of the biggest games of this generation (And a prize exclusive for Sony) onto their console?
The videos, the branding, the little things - they're all inconsequential as it really doesn't take much to change them in comparison to the rest of the game.

The HARD parts are porting the existing code over - we've got no idea just how tightly integrated the engine is to the PS3. It's possible, but that's the brunt of the work right there.
Still, in saying that, they'd easily make their money back from whatever it costs to port the game. Essentially, the expensive parts of the games are done (voice acting, videos, choreography, cut-scenes, etc.) all they have to do is port the code base and swap in a few different assets here and there.
Even if some of the cut-scenes have to be reworked slightly, it's still nothing compared to the vast majority of the game that wouldn't need to be touched.

And why would the psycho mantis bit be affected, at all? I don't know if he reads saved PS1 memory card data (I didn't have any), but all he does is say you've upgraded your hardware and a flash of the original PS1 is shown - what's needed to be changed about that? Even if they removed the flash of the PS1 (To stop Sony complaining), it really wont take away anything from the encounter.
99% of the game is fine, it wouldn't cost 1/10th of the budget of the full game to port it over to the 360 and even if it only sold half as much, it'd still make that money back. Remember, there's still more 360's out there than PS3's.

[xhairs9]

"Since when did owning a game make you a spokesperson for what the technical limitations are for the game or the platform it was developed for? What has owning it got to do with anything?"

A bit of your own advice right back at ya buddy. You claim the brunt of the work is changing the code. Regardless of coding or acting, both are professional areas of work, meaning those who code don't necessarily have it harder than those who act. If you haven't done your research (which I'm thinking is the case here) Kojima takes...PRIDE, in his work. Meaning, he wants the best -- not mediocre. Therefor actors do it time and time again until it's done exactly how it needs to be done.

Have you ever tried to do professional recording? Probably not, it's insanely expensive and it's by hour. So what makes you think that if it takes multiple recordings to dub over the PS3 dialogue is going to be cheap? Not to mention -- there's another edit in code right there, no matter how small it's still an edit.

The point is -- this is a PS3 exclusive. This will NEVER be on the 360 and it's been stated within the game plain and simple. All the flash backs in MGS4 would need to be taken out because they're all Sony exclusive games meaning they hold the rights to the flashbacks of previous games -- meaning, no extra drebin points for xbox 360 users -> which leads to, no XBOX 360 achievement unlock for ++++flashbacks.

It's about time you just sat back and realized that this game isn't porting the 360. The 360 can't handle it, it's been proven, and I doubt you know 1/2 of what these other guys talk about as far as processing etc. etc. between the two consoles.

/strokingmyepeen.

[morganfell]

LOL @TheSadTruth who can't read. Where did I say I worked for Konami in that post? I didn't. Can't you read? I said none of the dev kits we have are black or white. 'We' does not mean Konami, it means where I work.

[CrazzyMan]

They ALWAYS FORGET, that there is NO ps3 game, which was ported to x360. =)))
and they speak about MGS4. =]]

p.s. just for some noobs, that don`t know:
VF5 is an arcade port, NOT ps3.
DMC4 was developed almost simultaneously, and was started on PC.

[Kushan]

What are you even talking about? Where did I say you'd have to redub over anything? Don't you understand that all of the graphics, sound, video, etc. in the game will port fine over to the 360? None of that has to be remade.
I have no idea where you got that idea from, but I certainly never said it.

Also, why would any of the "flashbacks" be owned by Sony? The previous games may have been exclusives at one point, but MGS3 was the ONLY one to remain an exclusive. Konami still owns the rights to those games and everything in them - they can do what they want and Sony has no say in the matter. All of those "flashbacks" are the property of Konami and Konami alone, with one possible exception and that's the picture of the PS1 (and even then, it's debatable).

Really, the main bulk of making a port is the code of the game and that's where the work lies, end of.
And FYI, I make games for a living, so yes, I have done my research.

[morganfell]

All of the Sound and Graphics will not "port fine". The sound will have to be completely re-encoded. The sound reads off the HDD and Bluray disc at the same time. Also textures that are used completely throughout the game and can be called up at will in the Octo cam manual mode will have to be on every single disc. You are potentially looking at 8 discs to meet the need. And it isn't just textures but items that are discovered late in the game will have to be on the initial disc because of the way unlocks work. No forget it. Never coming to the 360 and the above are the LEAST of the technical reasons.

This is all machts nichts anyway as Kojima has said no 360 version. And it is Kojima, as Konami realized, who actually has the authority to make platform choices and he has no intention of compromising his vision. It is Kojima with whom the movie studios had to negotiate for a MGS film, not Konami. It is Kojima that said the Playstation brand had been very good to him and this is payback.

[xhairs9]

I never said you claimed that. You inferred it, ignorance is bliss correct?

Sure they will port over fine (give or take) the problem lies within WHAT is actually in those videos. Claims are posted every day of how long these video scenes are correct? Ok, lets take one of these incredibly long cutscenes, oh there's a reference to a Sony product, or a joke about a 360...you have to re-edit the whole cutscene in order to make it 360 friendly correct? Meaning more time & money, and if you redub them then you're looking at even more time and money due to bringing in the actors etc. etc. to get the job done, yet again.

And lets not forget, "Microsoft doesn't care about them having Sony products/apple, etc. etc." be honest with yourself. No company in their right mind is going to advertise a competitor like that, that's complete ignorance in itself.

You make games for a living, I sure pity your employer. For a man to claim that simply coding for the port is the only thing holding back MGS4 from becoming a multi-plat, you have simply lowered yourself to a non-respectable position. There's a lot more that goes into games than just simply code, but until you realize that

"Ignorance is bliss."

Lets also look at the PSP throughout the game (rediting this (and don't make a claim about a DS cause that's just dumb) ). You'd have to remake the Internal Podcast's due to the APPLE comments. You have to take out all the PS3's (which could be a pretty easy flip to a 360, yet this still needs to be done, adding up). Sony Ericsons anyone? Yes, you'd have to redo these as well throughout the game since Naomi & Vamp use them correct? Get over yourself.

P.S. forgive me about the flash backs I had just woken up when I wrote that, you are correct that is Konami property there except the PS1 (which can simply be taken out). As far as reading memory cards, Psycho Mantis doesn't do it in this one, he just makes the reference to the PS3 (yet another video section of the game having to be redone). So lets put this through one more time...how much redubbing & video editing must be done in order to make this 360 friendly? Just as much as porting code...

[ElementX]

Interesting. But it doesn't mean anything

[jromao]

Yes it means something, they need some trash can to place garbage, what better place than 360 ?

[SuicidalTendencies]

Maybe he likes to play a little Halo or Gears of War when he's not working. : )

[v1c1ous]

cause ppl were not getting their work done.

[Relcom]

its a 360 4 sure but who knows if its a dev kit? file this one under not likely

[predator]

could mean a number of things...He has a yet un-announced game in production for the 360

the rumored ZOE 3 could be coming to 360 as well as PS3

or the big one MGS4 is in fact heading towards 360 or Metal Gear Solid 4 Substance

at least 360 owners can enjoy his games if he is indeed developing for it

[morganfell]

Part of your post may be valid but the last part no. On top of the two reasons I stated above you don't take a game already too big for the 360 and make it bigger for the 360.

[predator]

who said its to big? what that it will need to be on multiple disks? if you're saying the 360 can't handle it then you are talking out of you're @ss

[SCThor]

and you'll know why is not possible.

[IaMs12]

oh its possible, IMO i rather swap a disk for 10 secs then sit and wait for a 5 min install... also if you read on N4G Japan has developed a way put 42gbs on a DVD... yes it says cannont be played on current DVD players BUT they may find a way to, its still in development....
i just like to add this in, PS3 wouldnt even be able to handle Gears just like you say 360 cannot handle MGS4...

[meepmoopmeep]

or it could be the past games for XBLA
(as i've stated in the forums)

[Kushan]

Disk size is completely irrelevant. There's nothing stopping them putting the game on 5 disks if they really wanted. Does it matter? As a PS3 fanboy, one might laugh at their 360 fanboy cousins having to swap disks at the end of an act, but while you're busy laughing, you're also waiting the 3mins for the game to install that particular act - something you'll have to do every single time you change acts. Is that all that different from swapping disks? Sure, you don't have to get off your ass to do anything, but you still have to wait, so I really think it's a non-issue,

As for games looking better on one console or another, it's completely irrelevant - you can't compare MGS4 to ANY game on the 360 because they all look completely different and have entirely different art styles. If you want to get into the nitty-gritty of it, you may be saddened to know that the PS3's GPU is inferior to the 360's GPU by some degree and the power of the CELL only just makes up for it. Believe it or not, both consoles are on par with what GRAPHICS they can output, so it's also a non-issue.

Really, there is no valid reason why MGS4 couldn't be ported, in full, to the 360 - it's entirely up to Kojima and Konami if it ever happens.

[callahan09]

At ~.5

Why do you say the PS3 is incapable of running Gears of War?

[TheExecutive]

At 5.7.. you act like switching the disk will all of a sudden take away installing and load times.

The 360 has no standard hard drive, that alone is the reason why MGS4 will not go to this generation of xboxs

Can you imagine the load times on the 360? They would be horrendous.

[meepmoopmeep]

i agree, without the installs or standard hdd it will really hinder the game on a 360

[themyk]

@ kushan. if ps3 graphix are inferior then why is the ps3 graphics pretty much way better than 360.

i've seen the screens of gears. looks just like the first one. the first one was great when it came out a couple years ago but now thats pretty dated.

resistance well blow it away graphically and every other way. but especially graphically.

and i've never seen a game on a console compared to mgs4. so when you guys put out a game that looks better than that on your "superior" graphix card, let me know.

[BkaY]

"the rumored ZOE 3 could be coming to 360 as well as PS3
or the big one MGS4 is in fact heading towards 360 or Metal Gear Solid 4 Substance "

KEEP DREAMING.... KEEP , KEEP DREAMING.... LOLZ

[IaMs12]

Ive read that PS3 as 256mb RAM (WAIT FANBOYS!) which it really has 512 from which i have heard recently, now the problem is they have the RAM split as so i read... therefore if i read this correct, they have 256mb to play with for a portion of the game and 256 for something totaly different(it was like my computer before i had 512mb right but i had access to 300+ because my Video chip was taking 1/4 of it, thats what the PS3 is doing) so at somewhat they are limited... now the 360 has 512 RAM total that is not sharing, and gears takes that to full advantage...

let the bashing begin..

[Darkiewonder]

Their heating unit broke.

[hack6464]

ROFL, that was good. Never gets old.

[OmarJA]

HHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAH ... COUGH COUGH

[heyheyhey]

and never will...

perhaps a nice toasted sandwich helps the Kojmeister concentrate?

[thekingofMA]

i'm a 360 fan, but that was quite funny

[sonarus]

Analog hype already said story still standing

[juuken]

Lmfao, good one.

[meepmoopmeep]

lmao. hahhaha.. that's timeless

[PimpHandHappy]

lol

this just is

"PS3 dev ket seen at Epic games"

btw this is open zone right?

nah i wont flame it

2 fukn easy

[LaChance]

while waiting b3yond those cutscenes.

No really , might be MGS4 coming to 360 or might be another game theyre working on ,or it might be that he just likes the 360.

[Thoas]

It will never happen

http://i289.photobucket.com...

[blackboyunltd]

we all know metal gear is coming 360 lets not pretend we aint know

[thesummerofgeorge]

......Huh?
Either that was a joke or I could use a hit of what you're smokin.
Anyway, this rumor won't die until MG5 comes out. Who can blame em, if I was stuck with a 360 I would wanna keep the dream of MGS4 alive too.

[hack6464]

How long do you guys think it will take for this guy to get banned to the openzone?

[juuken]

...It's not coming.
Don't hold your breath.
I said this once and I will say it again. If Kojima couldn't fit everything he wanted onto bluray, then what makes you think he'll have enough space to bring it to the 360?

[predator]

look closely at the black box next to the 360...that could be the dev kit..looks a lot like it plus it has that extra height. better pic here http://kotaku.com/5020582/i...

[Mr_Showtime1]

That looks like a ps3 beside the 360, theres two controllers sitting in front of it too.

[Premonition]

The 360 dev kits arent that big, if you mean that black thing towards the back, and next to the 360 is another black object which is the PS3.

EDIT: Im pretty sure its a PS3, im looking at one right now on my desk, plus i have glasses on so i can see quite good.

[predator]

nah its to big for a ps3 plus the ps3 doesn't have anything poking from the top of it....this is what a dev 360 kit looks like, just saying that looks a lot like it

[Mr_Showtime1]

the sort of light across the top shows the oval shape of the PS3

[SCThor]

Offtopic - Have you ever seen a Xbox360 dev-kit go RROD? I'm just curiousif it happens too on dev kits.

[Kushan]

That's definitely a regular 360. If it was a Dev 360 (There are some that look like that), it would have what LOOKS like a big hard drive attached to it. It would stick out a lot more than that.

Nothing else on that desk has anything else to do with the 360. It's a regular 360, end of.

[rakgi]

Yea I wouldn't trust Kotaku on things like that

[Ex The God]

lmao...the quality isn't good enough to tell if it's a regular console or a dev kit. You never know though. PS3 fanboys are going crazy over this though

[onewinedangel]

first is not kojima's ,second is a normal xbox not a debug version which means they had it just to play with it, also during the video u can see at kojimas office a wii and i forgot to mention that for all the idiots out there hoping for mgs4 during almost a quater of the video kojima himself repet like 50 time ps3 is the best console ,the more powerful, the blu ray has open alot of doors for us. dont get ur hopes high cause is not gonna happen

[onewinedangel]

how u see an xbox in a developers room without knowing the background of the video and without even watching it,and u say the mgs4 is multi and then a stuopid coward with none argument call me fanboy for quoting mister Hideo wow.

u are awsome *sarcasm *

[hack6464]

"the fan boy is strong in you"

How ironic...

[Silogon]

hahahahahahahahahahahaah They said "nice matte white console" What a bunch of complete Jerk spurts! There is no such thing as a nice xbox 360. They're all garbage and they look like toys.

Gotta love straw graspers. Evan Wells has a 360 sitting on his desk too, but do I fear an Uncharted port any time soon? No. No I don't. Also, why is this even considered a dev kit? Dev kits wouldn't be on personal desk, debug units would. Morons!

[Vecta]

Why would you be afraid if the uncharted got ported, or any other PS3 game for that matter? You got stocks in sony...?

[Silogon]

no, no I don't but what's even more abundant right now you can't refute my post. thanks for playing and getting owned by silogon, most hated N4g member going because he's always right.

[hotshot127]

you just missed silogons whole point. when did he say he was "afraid" of uncharted going to the 360? he never said, he was being sarcastic and secondly uncharted couldnt go to the 360 either way since its owned by sony.

so what are you talking about?

[RememberThe357]

Well I know that why I hate you :)

[Ritterrav]

Was that at Kojima productions as in he owns a studio where people work under him? or was he at a studio owned and ran by Konami? a Company that releases multiplatform games... HMMMMMM!!!!! I wonder, jeez people will grab onto anything nowadays.

[meepmoopmeep]

Kojima Productions is his studio. Konami is his publisher. whether or not Konami owns KP, i don't know.

yeah, who knows where those images are from, but i think it's in the KP studio. doesn't mean anything though, a lot of devs have the 3 platforms in their studios.

[Ali_The_Brit]

heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere we go, the rumour mills up again

[poos3]

WHO CARES ABOUT MGS4 PLZ DONT BRING THAT MOVIE to the 360 i likle games that dont look outdated graw 2 has better graphics than mgs4 ( ps3 fans have not played that game) hahah mgs4 looks crap plays avrage ut has amamzing cgi cutscenes hahha not my type of game.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi]

...They needed a Laugh!!! ;-D
Ooooooops!!!;)

[mesh1]

HAHA A BIG LAUGH AT THE PPL ON TH EOPEN ZONE gears of war 2 60% complete btw footage is the best looking game shown this genaration the gpu is rendeing so much textures and deatial in gears of war mp footage nothing on the ps3 loooks like it and they think 360 cant run a game that looks like a 2yr old game graw 2 hahahplz some 1 post ingame mgs4 screen with hud and gears of war 2 and lets laugh at the,m the 360 can achive more than what mgs4 is on th eps3 fact go look at gametrailers gears of war footage.

[Ali_The_Brit]

Hey, ever thought its just an xbox360? doesnt make it a goddamn dev kit. who ever said kojima was a fanboy eh?

[Santyx]

Doubts anything is going to happen... anyone who thinks so is pretty dumb. So what if they have an Xbox 360, just a stupid article.

[jamesrocks3147]

yes all the stuff with PS3 like blu-ray and stuff makes it qutie impossible to put it on xbox 360 but ever taken a look at Microsofts xbox 360 policy? you cant put installs on the hard drives bigger then 500MB and come on how big is MGS4 installions again?

[Santyx]

I think the install is about 5gbs ;)

[HeavyweightInTheGame]

I have Final Fantasy XI installed on my 360 and that takes up around five gigs.

http://xbox.about.com/od/xb...

Read the second paragraph about halfway down where it says it takes about five gigs of space.

[PirateThom]

1. That's not a dev kit, just a regular 360
2. Kojima Productions already said they had 360 dev kits about 2 years ago
3. Who cares?

[UrbanJabroni]

The newer revisions of both dev and debug kits are virtually indistinguishable from retail kits.

Dev kits USED to be grey, then they USED to have special fan housings, now they look like a regular 360.

[Vespertine]

Well that sums it up then.

[HighDefinition]

You can pretty much say, it`s not gonna be on the 360. They would have to change ALOT of things.

[Meus Renaissance]

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[NO_PUDding]

Agreed and it's not a dev kit.

[Meus Renaissance]

That just looks like a normal 360 to me? This is how a Dev Kit looks like

http://www.xb360info.com/im...

[PirateThom]

That, my friend, is because it is.

[UrbanJabroni]

"4.1 - As I said earlier
The newer revisions of both dev and debug kits are virtually indistinguishable from retail kits.

Dev kits USED to be grey, then they USED to have special fan housings, now they look like a regular 360."

[Meus Renaissance]

Source?

[SSJSubgeta]

Thats not a 360 dev kit. I can re assure you that it is only what it is, an Xbox 360 console. Nothing more and nothing less.

The 360 dev kits are taller and have a black front face plate and have a green square logo on top. The rest is all white. That is NOT a 360 dev kit.

[UrbanJabroni]

Please, if you aren't a developer, stop pretending you know what you are discussing based off of old internet pictures.

New dev kits look EXACTLY the same as retail 360s. EXACTLY. I had an intern try and switch one out on me...

[hotshot127]

......

[SSJSubgeta]

I am no developer, My duties lie in the concept art design and Story boarding dept. But I have seen and played with these development kits. As for the new-er versions you speak of, we haven't received any news or info in our development kits Microsoft provided us with. Plus We don't develop a hole lot for the 360 platform so I doubt we will ever get to see one in our studios.

[Salvadore]

That looks like an ordinary 360, he must just be one of those rare Japanese people that bought one.

Edit: Kojima's employee then.

[PirateThom]

That's not even Kojima's desk, he has his own office.

[RememberThe357]

I find it funny how people disagreed with you FACT, as though it was an opinion.

As for all this? I'm not even going to speculate because it's pointless, that a PS3 standing up, period. If the game is going to the 360 this didn't show anything.

[hotshot127]

first off, that could be at KONAMI where they develope for 360 also.

second off, why would kojima continously pick fun at the 360 in mgs4 just to release a watered down port a year later.

not to mention, releasing a mgs game a year later thats already dumbed down wouldnt farewell since all the fans would have already brought it by then. he would be better off releasing a mgs4 "subsistance" on ps3 again to get the same fans to buy it.

not to mention, kojima does like gears of war you know. they do play 360 games if you guys actually read things about him

and don't tell me you guys think the game would run better on the 360. you would have to rebuild the entire game. the game uses a harddrive and 50 gigs of space.

knowing that every 360 doesnt have a harddrive and it only uses dvd9 is just two complications.

this game was built for the ps3 and porting it to the 360 would be a real hassle and by the time it comes out, mgs will be old news.

bioshock came to the ps3 because it was already in development for the ps3 AND the game was a NEW ip. mgs is a proven franchise that already has a set fanbase.

japenese developers are very loyal and sony is also funding the mgs movie, trust me people, this game is staying on the ps3.

just like gears 3 will stay exclusive to microsoft not because of money but because of loyalty. simple as that.....

not to mention, because of the fact that mgs4 is heavily based on STORY and uses bluray to really utilize those cutscenes, the cutscenes would have to be changed thus having ALOT of thinking to do on how they want the story to be told......and THAT is not something kojima will do.

this is a 360 dev kit by the way. http://www.xb360info.com/im...
(thanks to MEUS above me)

[Fanboy Slaughter]

Alright, fanboys needs to stop getting their nuts in a twist and reporting my posts.

Crybabies

[onewinedangel]

are the best definition for the word stupid anyone would ever find in a dictionary
because
1 u havent watch the video (u ll never gonna be able since is a blu ray not a dvd and is ps3 exclusive )

2the xjunk 360 DOES NOT HAVE THE ENOUGH POWER TO RUN MGS4 ENGINE

3 kojima is a gamer like any one else in this page but with the slightly difference that he is not a stupid fanboy he is just an intelligent man who knows what is the most powerful hardware available (ps3 he stated himself several time during the special edition blu ray )

[AssassinXIII]

kojima is a f4g :)

[onewinedangel]

u are one of the pesons i was just defining thanks alot for the living example
now go play halo 2.3 or glitches of lag(gears of war ) maybe u like it the most since is the only good looking game in the xbox libary ,unfotunatly is the only good thing this game has.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

You're a freakin moron.

[power of Green]

"The 360 does not have the power to run the MGS4 engine'

^^ lol I bet your biggest fears are actually the opisite of what you said in that comment.

[Thoas]

http://i289.photobucket.com...

[cr33ping_death]

and this people.... means sh!T. let it rest.

[niall77]

Kojima Productions IS NOT PLAYSTATION EXCLUSIVE

MGS4 IS

theres a bit of a diffrence

[AllroundGamer]

but how would the Mantis cutscene look like on the xbox version? (those who played MGS4 know what i mean :) )

lol the quick disagrees must come from the xbox fanboys :D just buy a PS3 and play it, so you know what i meant by the Mantis custcene :p

[RememberThe357]

They disagree because they don't know what your talking about.

[WickedRabbit]

For those wondering what's next to the 360, it's a PS3. The dimensions are exactly on par and you can even seen the cables from the controllers from it. It's not some sort of black box, it's a PS3, plain and simple.

For those that have played MGS4, you will understand why people are highly skeptical about it being ported. It has very little to do with fanboyism or PlayStation loyalty. Putting aside disk space (MGS4 would have to be at least 3-4 disks on 360), etc. the main reason why I think it's highly unlikely is that there is a lot of Apple, Sony and even PlayStation history directly embedded into the actual story. There are PS3's and PSP's all over the place, Apple logos on everything, all the phones are Sony Ericsson's and Otacon and even one very cool battle that I won't spoil for anyone speaks of the PlayStation history and talks about the power of the PS3 directly in the cinema. They would have to either cut out certain scenes entirely, which would severely alter the game, or they would have to rebuild them completely, which means bringing everyone back for another round of editing (voice actors, programmers, graphics artists...the entire team).

So, is it possible that MGS4 could be ported? Yes, it's possible for the sake of Konami wanting to make as much as they can off the game. Is it likely? Not really. The costs associated with re-editing the entire game would be pretty high and given that a port would more than likely be at least a year after the PS3 version, sales of the game for 360 would be incredibly low because anyone that WANTS to play MGS4 is not going to wait a year to play it. Regardless of whether or not you own a PS3, those that want to play the game will find a way to play it, whether it's at a friends house who has a PS3 or if they just went out and bought a PS3. The only sales for 360 that would pick up would be those that aren't fans of the games and are picking it up for the sake of owning or trying out the game (I'd estimate that less than half a million would sell if it came out for 360 a year later). It wouldn't make Konami their money back on the costs of having to port it.

So, for those reasons I think it's unlikely.

As far as the 360 in the video, I saw that as well. But, if you've been paying attention to anything, MGS4 was the only game Konami has signed on as an exclusive. Everything else is multiplatform. End of story.

[hotshot127]

that was one of the best post i've seen in regards to mgs4 being ported. i tried saying to same thing in my last post but your's came out much better. this is why i dont think it will come to the ps3 along with my other facts.
main one being since mgs4 has such a hardcore fanbase, they will ALL have the game and wont wait a whole year for a port. thats why i find it funny that people honestly believe it would sell millions if it ever got ported.

this game would have sold well on the 360 had in been released day and date with the ps3 version but not a year later espicially knowing all the new games that will attract people by then and it wouldnt even be released over the holidays. as in the words of ryan payton.

"if you want to play mgs4, buy a ps3" end of story........

[jaja1434]

"sales of the game for 360 would be incredibly low because anyone that WANTS to play MGS4 is not going to wait a year to play it"

That mean you will not be playing Bioshock? Sorry just pointing out how silly it is to say what you said in that one particular line. :)
Also I would get MGS4 if it came to the 360.

[iamtehpwn]

MGS4 confirmed for SNES.

[PirateThom]

The best console ever.

I'd buy it for SNES.

[leeger]

here we go again.

[niall77]

MGS4 MOBILE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PirateThom]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

It's been done!

[heyheyhey]

yeah, but not MGS4 MOBILE

that would actually rock

[PirateThom]

Metal Gear Solid 4 - Portable Ops 2
Germany 1 - Spain 2

I'd hit that.

[heyheyhey]

i think it's safe to say... that wasn't a dev kit

most studios have a PS3 and 360 unit- regardless of whether the game they are making is exclusive to one or the other or it is multi-platform

inspiration, comparison or just some diversity at the lunch-time breaks :)

[PirateThom]

Exactly, Kojima may be a fanboy/just hate Microsoft, but his team aren't and they're more than likely all gamers and, as such, be in PlayStation, Xbox or Nintendo branded, they will play it!

See the white box beside the screen?

That's a PS3 as well.

[ISA_Scum]

Love gaming media, love it. 360 titles come out exclusive to Microsoft's machine and the media can do nothing but tease PS3 owners for having no games and 360 being the better software console. PS3 exclusives come around and they demand it to be ported to 360 and that Sony gamers don't deserve good exclusives.

GAMING MEDIA SUCKS AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER BS EXAMPLE. Honestly, get over it. Too technically advanced to be on 360. Kojima and Payton have both said no to the 360 for MULTIPLE reasons, including technical.

P.S. Love IGN's "E3 predictions" quote to only back my comment: "MGS4 to 360, make it happen Kojima." Jesus the media need to get over their fanboyism and just shut up.

[solsub]

"Love gaming media, love it. 360 titles come out exclusive to Microsoft's machine and the media can do nothing but tease PS3 owners for having no games and 360 being the better software console. PS3 exclusives come around and they demand it to be ported to 360 and that Sony gamers don't deserve good exclusives."

Couldn't have said it better myself. I do think that it is technically possible to port MGS4 to the 360 though. However, the additional time and money involved would make the endeavour fruitless. Everyone who wants/wanted the game got a PS3 for it. The additional 360 sales wouldn't cover the porting costs alone.

Hey, its selling well enough on its own as it is. It doesn't need to be ported.

[cellypower]

I agree %100

[-Maverick-]

lol

MGS4 PWNS

[4D]

Videogame cutscenes???

Watch B3yond

[Hockey11]

nice bubbles

[solsub]

Not a 360 dev kit. It's a normal one with a PS3 right next to it (you can actually see two wired PS3 controllers connected to it).

They may, however, be debug kits. Needless to say, there is a big difference between the two.

[blackboyunltd]

snake!!

[power of Green]

*!* (beeeoaappppewn). da da da dada DA DA DA.

[LJWooly]

PoG, what the hell was that supposed to be?

[Ghoul]

the 360 DEV kit is Black not white believe me i had one at work

[kazuma]

OH MY GOD THE GROUND IS SHAKING! FIRE IS COMING FROM THE DEPTHS OF THE EARTH! IT'S HELL!!!
*ahem*

so, just because there's a 360 back at konami/kojima productions office it's mgs4 for 360 confirmed? wow, u ppl really can read minds

hey THAT reminds me, there's a 360 back at the santa monica studios from sony (god of war), do you think they're gonna bring god of war to the 360??? (it's on the god of war 2 making of dvd)
plz tell me, n4g users i MUST know this!

[jspc1989]

talk about nit picking lol. personally im getting a ps3 for this game, and when i do itll go beside my 360. just think about this for a while:

1) Do you think it is entirely possible for konami as a publisher to dev multi platform games in general.
2) who wud have ever thought that a games designer would actually enjoy playing games?!
3)that just looks like a normal 360 to me.
4) who gives a toss lol.

sense alot of sarcasm in those statements. whoever actually found out this screen shot and stuff needs to get a life lol

[demonddel]

da game looks damn good but something about gears just looks unbelievable 2 my eyes da 360 has proven its capable of doin anything graphics vise now disc size is a diff story but 360 fans dont worry u not missing anything da controller is not bein use most of da time dont let them fool ya they just glad da ps3 got an ok game thats not a port boy i tell ya 3 psfanboyz just jump off a 3rd floor building after reading this story hope they ok come on man this has got 2 stop holla at me if u got a problem

[Exorgasm]

"holla at me if u got a problem"

That was the funniest thing I've read all day. If there was an award for "internet tough guy who couldn't spell to save his life" you would be a winner.

I'm pretty sure you just really suck at Metal Gear and aren't smart enough to follow the storyline and that's why your entire comment history is nothing but anti-mgs4 comments in poorly written busted english.

And I love my 360 but the only thing unbelievable about Gears is that is got so much praise for its graphics with the smeared appearance and short draw distance. Gears is a very fun shooter but it's got nothing on this games graphics or story.

[demonddel]

exorgasm whatever ur name is im not trying 2 be tough son im just speaking on some real sh!t im am a boss though ima gamer not a game watcher im not saying that gears is da best game ever but i know mgs4 not either not even close im not bashing da game but real gamers knows what im talking bout and if im not smart enough want u come teach me something that'd be kool

[Tunerboy8732]

It might be MGS4 or it could be titled something else.You gotta remember Konami is not exclusive to Sony.The original Xbox had a MGS game.

[BIoodmask]

These are pictures of current dev kits being used by a college for game design.

Just read post #6 by ksmooches on this thread...

http://forums.n4g.com/m_169...

[heyheyhey]

well if they look like regular 360's then that doesn't mean that what is in the picture is ACTUALLY a regular 360

it seems to have a regular PS3 beside it too

[CertifiedGamer]

I guess if he has a Wii then that means he is making mgs4 on wii
Ya need to stop and get a ps3
Microsoft game studio has PS3 in there office and that doesn't mean they are making games on PS3
Bungie has a Ps3 in there office and that doesn't mean Halo is coming to the PS3.
It doesn't mean SH*T

[Raoh]

if it is a 360 dev kit....

everyone knows kojimas next title is "Zone of Enders" that is multi platform right?

[Ghoul]

http://www.xb360info.com/im...

THIS is a devkit

the Devkits are Black NOT white, this news is crap

[Kyur4ThePain]

Why do people keep setting themselves up for an epic phail every few months?

[FantasyStar]

Just accept the fact that MGS4 is on PS3 and that's where it'll stay. These rumors have been going on for 2 years!!

2 YEARS! Just let it go and accept the fact that it won't come to 360 ever. Accept the fact that you bought the wrong console with MGS4 in mind. Just accept it and deal with it in a less disgraceful way cause these articles are just setting you up to disappoint you with the hard reality that MGS4 IS ON PS3 ONLY.

[heyheyhey]

to be fair

there were rumors for Bioshock PS3 for AGES and people were getting sick of them.... and look at how that turned out

difference is though- MGS4 isn't possible on the 360 for various reasons

[iceice123]

Those reasons, as far as I know you're not a developer, how could you know what is possible?

[PirateThom]

No, the difference is that BioShock was already in development and then PS3 references were found in the game code.

Those two things alone are more proof for PS3 BioShock than MGS3 360 has ever had - "a Konami employee said" and "there's rumours that".

Never any proof, nothing past "someone heard someone say"

Icewake: Not even from a development point of view, play the game and see: references to PlayStation and PlayStation hardware all over the game, Apple and Sony products throughout - there's technical reasons, like the fact it takes up so much space, but the Sony hardware is a lot more telling

[FantasyStar]

I don't doubt that MGS4 can be done on the 360. The graphics reminds me of Assassin's Creed in a good way. I'm sure people will gripe over multiple disks, but that's only a fanboy-mindset of hubris. It's not going to kill you to switch the disc every 8 hours; because at least switching a disc is faster than waiting a mandatory 2-3 min installation to finish. Lost Odyssey did it and I was perfectly fine with it.

But the main reason that MGS4 will never come to 360 is because Sony doesn't want it. Kojima doesn't want it, and the only people that do want it is probably Konami and the 360 crowd. How many times has MGS4 been claimed as an MGS4 exclusive? Enough times for MGS4 to stay a PS3 exclusive for over 3 years without a sway in opinion.

Is it possible for time exclusiveness only? I'm no developer but the recent push for MGS4 commercials and the nice letters "Only on Playstation 3" says alot. Sony won't let it go without a legal fight. It's got nothing to do with whether or not the 360 is capable (like some damn fanboy wants you to believe). It's all game-politics and nothing more. I also have no doubt that Gears of War can be done on PS3 as well cause UT3 on PS3 runs very nicely. (except for multiplayer issues) Microsoft won't let that happen though, just like Sony won't let it happen. Understand that MGS4 on 360 is all politics and nothing more.

[aiphanes]

Its just the way it is....people need to get over it. Buy a PS3 if you want to play MGS4, little big planet, and Killzone 2, and resistance 2, and Socom Confrontation...

[TripleTags]

A developer with a dev kit .. OH MY GOD!

[Lionsguard]

Wow just because Kojima bashes the 360 doesn't mean everything at Kojima Productions can't be a 360. Some of his employees probably play a 360. Despite the piss poor sales at Japan 1 or 2 thousand people do buy a 360 every month you know. I like how the guy jumps to the conclusion that it's a devkit and not a normal 360, sounds to me like someone is just craving something they can't get, "OMG A DEVKIT!!!!!!!!111".

[ActionBastard]

Someone on Kojima's staff has bad taste: CONFIRMED

[DJ]

Sony's game studios have Xbox 360s as well, and a lot of their employees actually like the system. Think Xbox 360 developers are any different?

[AstroZombie1]

Will the fanboys ever stop?

[Doctor Strange]

Grasping at straws big time here.

[thekingofMA]

unless the black boxes around the 360 are indeed a dev kit, it's just a 360

i think some people may just wonder why there's a 360 on a desk-i would imagine Kojima having a lavish and comfortable office space where they might have consoles in front of a TV, instead of on a desk...

but who knows...

[kingboy]

That`s a regular 360 not a dev kit folks

[jcfilth]

to scare the bad spirits off at night!!

[jcfilth]

who disagreed???
WHO??
WHOOO??
WHOOO??????
SHOW UR FACE COWARD!!!
C'MON!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHH!!

lol

EDIT: WHAAAT? ANOTHER ONE??
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH DAMN YOU!!

SHOW YOUR..uum AVATAR?

[Solid_Malone]

LoL, well anyway, i really do not believe that mgs 4 wud be coming to xbox360 becos of the things they're implented in the game for ps3 (like what SCThor mentioned in 1.8: Ignore
1.8 - I don't think so...
They would have to make A LOT OF CHANGES to the game to be Xbox "friendly", like: *SPOILER ALERT*

-using a Zune instead of an Ipod
-using a Windows PC instead of a Mac
-using a "Non-existent" MS handheld to control the MK-II
-Removing the part:"Snake insert disk 2...oh! is a PS3..", etc etc
-Add posters of Xbox games instead of PS titles
-etc etc etc

and don't forget....make space for a 5 DVD set close to your X360.)

but the reason they may have a xbox 360 there is to test OTHER games and try and compare them with mgs 4 and see which one is better, they could also be seeing features on other games to implent into mgs4.

[Exorgasm]

I don't think we will see MGS4 coming to the 360 but who would really mind if it did? There are a lot of people out there who don't budget their money well enough to get a ps3 and are students whose parents only bought them one console who deserve to enjoy the game as much as anyone else.

This sort of thing is getting ridiculous. I really don't see the point of picking sides when both consoles have great exclusives and all you guys do is sit on your teams benches this generation speculating about who's going to be losing exclusives.

You're all missing half of the fun this generation and it's only going to get worse for you guys from this point on. This holiday season is looking amazing for both 360 and PS3 and those of you missing out because of brand loyalty are the ones losing the console war if anyone is.

[MaximusPrime]

nothing to do with MGS4.

It is already exclusive to the awesome PS3

[soul899er]

wow its only been about 5 minutes and theres over 200 comments O_O

[BlueRevolvuR]

Microsoft sends a cake to Kojima like they did with Mozilla. But the cake will contain mind-controlling nanomachines called FOX-GATES. LOL

[meepmoopmeep]

lmao. bubble for that.

[MaximusPrime]

is it going to be the same cake as the one show in video below?

[PirateThom]

It's funny, everytime this game gets a 10/10 it's deemed the reviwers are biased, evertime is gets an 8/10 the score is generous.

YET THEY STILL MAKE THE RUMOURS!! WHY?!

[demonddel]

because thats what it deserve 8/10 i got da game cuz and im not really following da story and its not all that i cant see how this game is being praise like this boy i tell ya

[juuken]

...It's not a dev kit.
Nice try but no.
Meus already summed it up.

[blackboyunltd]

word

[juuken]

Ah...the dreams of the XBox fanatics were raised so high...until they were crushed like a walnut. Sorry guyz, but that's not a dev kit.

[4D]

You guys can have your have cut scene/half gameplay MGS4. Unlike the fat b!tch above me posting about MGS4 like there is no other game out there worth playing, us 360 owners have been playing games since day 1. We don't know what it's like to wait for games. We don't have to watch movies on our consoles to justify our purchase. We don't have to preinstall games, sit through 90 minute cutscenes, buy new controllers for force feedback, or suffer through an online service that lacks features and integration that the competition has provided since day 1.

So wait b3yond, like this fat trick above me waits b3yond for somebody to get some beer goggles thick enough to take her fat a$$ home from the bar. Damn it must suck to be so ugly a 12 pack can't get you laid...

[hotshot127]

1. clearly your a very close minded ignorant indivisual. why? because i know you dont know jukken and you automatically assume that she "fat" just because shes a girl gamer and she comes on n4g. and dont reply back and tell me thats not why you said that.

2.you seem like you were really hoping for mgs4 to go to the 360 but your hopes got shot down and not your butt hurt and you feel the need to take it out on others on n4g.

3. your talking about us paying for a controller that rumbles while you guys get it standard. funny because you guys pay for ONLINE while we get that standard. you also pay for wifi and some of you even pay for a harddrive.

4.you dont know what its like to "wait" for games huh? interesting. im guessing your living in the future playing gears of war 2 right now........since thats the only good game on the 360.

5. if anything, the playstation community would know best what its like to play games since we had the largest library previous gen.lol

6.and about the good games. funny all through out 2008, you guys only have ONE game that even averages in the 80's(low 80's at that)-ninja gaiden 2.

and that half movie/half game your talking about just happens to be the highest rated exclusive this gen out of the 360 and ps3 and one of the "greatest games of all time"

we have the highest rated platformer.(rachet and clank)

we have the highest rated party game(singstar)

we have the highest rated sports game(mlb the show 08)

we have the highest rated third person shooter(mgs4)

and we have the highest rated action adventure(ninja gaiden sigma) and weather this is a spinoff or not, its still exclusive with features.

we have all the best games in 08 and our online service is about to be almost on par with 2.4......FOR FREE.

so what are you talking about again?

[REDZEV]

Hey Junky whats up??? what happened??? I thought you were giving up the meaningless fight and getting off the n4g forum??? ahh shucks. anyways you completly amuse me how you stick up for sony and the MGS series when you havent even completed any of the MGS games whatsoever. I mean beyond being ignorant your a complete "NOOB" who shouldnt be expressing any type of opionion or at least till you finished one of the damn games!!! I mean its so lame how you defend a game and its series when you dont know anything about it. you have no crediability at all. so for now on I dont want to hear how good MGS4 is from you since you never played or finished one in your life. Have a good day and get off the forums for christs sake or for at least 5 minutes and try to complete MGS4 you mindless NOOB!!!!

[DarkSniper]

Please report 4D's comment as offensive. Insulting fellow N4G members is prohibited. With your help Sony Snipers, we can clean up the filth that Microslaves have littered upon this great website.

$niper

[juuken]

Whooooooooa, calm yoself!

[BrianC6234]

The guy who wrote that is such a loser. There's no way the 360 can even handle such a huge game. Maybe they'll dumb it down and use stick figures. But seriously 360 owners who want MGS4, just buy a PS3 if you want the game.

[aiphanes]

And it already sold 3 million units in 2 weeks on the PS3 alone...and will probably end up selling more than Gears of War 1.

Wishfull thinking of Xboxfanboys....MGS4 will never ever, ever come to the Xbox 360...maybe the xbox 720 with the builtin bluray drive....LOL!!!

[DX F3NIX]

why kojima. please don't put MGS4 on a crap of a console

[Manbearpig]

If anyone has seen the bonus movie, they would know that that isn't Kojima's desk, just some cubicle. Also, that isn't even at Kojima Productions in Roppongi, they were offices borrowed from Konami in Tokyo. As pointed out before, that also isn't a 360 dev kit.
This is just Kotaku publishing things without doing some research.

[pwnsause]

wow you bots really want this game after you guys bashed it calling it a movie. love the ignorance there

[zapass]

just imagining the "please insert disc7" screen makes me think it's worth the port

;P

[LaChance]

singsatr and MLB 08 ?

Wow , I hope you realise that 360 gamers wouldnt mind those games NEVER coming to 360 (you can add R and C , not a bad game but geez we can live without that)

MGS4 , yeah its cool.But thats about it.
Funny the crap games you bring up to make your console look good.

[Grown Folks Talk]

Just not the same title on more than 1 system. Each would get it's own specific titles to maximize the strengths of the system.

[SkyGamer]

If there is a X360 edition, (which I really don't care if it is or not as I think the game is waaayy overrated) they could add during the disc-swap times, "You do not need to wait 5+ minutes and eat up a chunk of your HDD because it is Xbox 360!"

[The Wood]

strange that;)

[jackdoe]

Yes, strange... The power of a fanboy eh?

[solidjun5]

This is Journalism at its best. Man, I still like Kotaku...err...at least some of its writers (Leigh [beautiful writing skills], Michael, heck even Brian]) but this is just fueling flames for the sake of hits.

[FantasyStar]

bless it

[Neo604]

now they keep wishing for it.

[ash_divine]

I bet he feels pretty stupid after that update. and for those who don't know it's not a development kit, it's just a regular 360. the article just flamebait.

[Homicide]

Lol, it was pretty funny seeing the bots getting wet over this. Just a regular 360. Means nothing about MGS4. Maybe they just like some games on the 360.

[ash_divine]

I wonder how many of the fanboys going ape-sh!t in the gamerzone have realized that by now.

[rushbd]

both mgs4 and the people who arent :P

[chidj2]

haha xbots continue dreaming hhahaha

[highps3]

Definately sorta looks like a 360 but looks more like the thin dell tower... IMO..

WHo cares if it goes to the 360 they all said the game was lame anyway right? OH WAIT NOW YOU WANT IT....

Stupid kids.

[Homicide]

The article is updated. Your dreams are crushed 360 fanboys ;)

[Obama]

1.) It's not Kojima's desk
2.) It's a regular 360
3.) Bots still wishing to play the best game ever made? In your dream haha.

[wowguytc17]

ha thats weird. I just saw this yesterday and was like wtf is that doing there? I didn't get all worked up about it but maybe one day in the far distant future mgs4 might go to the 360 once all the dust has settled that mgs4 for the ps3 started. I wouldnt worry about it to much and just enjoy it on the ps3 for now. If you really loved playing games you would have a ps3 as well as a 360 and already have mgs4. I dont see the point in fighting over what system has what and supporting only one manufacturer. Why would you only support microsoft and just keep giving your money to and endless pool of money. The 360 has games that I like just like the ps3 does. I would say as of right now the ps3 is the better system and is built future proof with a lot of awesome games coming out exclusively but that doesn't mean I hate the 360. I guess i got carried on but dont sweat over this to much and dont get to excited because changing out five discs would suck.

[Peow]

http://kotaku.com/5020582/i...

look at the light on it. At the top it curves like the PS3, then there's those two rectangles that stick out on the PS3. IT's slightly taller than the 360, which is what the PS3 is like. It's a PS3, no doubt.

[Bill Gates]

STUPID BABOONS!!!

MGS4 is a PS3 E-X-C-L-U-S-I-V-E......Get it through your lush brains you BABOONS....AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAA

[snakeater3]

do we really care if mgs4 comes out for 360 or not? we already played the sh!t out of the game so for us ps3 owners, mgs4 is history. its a win win situation for us....if it does come out for 360, they have to swallow their criticism and acknowledge its the greatest game ever AND we can laugh our a$$es of at their inferior version. :D

[Bladestar]

mmm strange... I find it strange that Kojima would even have picture of an xbox 360.. since he is such of a Sony fanboy... Microsoft should be careful allows kojima to release anything on the xbox 360 it may be full of subliminal messages about blu-ray and the PS3 to get xbox 360 owners to convert... This is all kojima strategy... do you think it was a coincidence that they showed that dev kit there? by doing this he keep people talking about his game... bring speculations and free advertising... I gave up with kojima and the xbox 360... consider him a 1st party developer... and trust me.. you do not want a Sony fanboy making games for the xbox 360.. he would ruin it on purpose.

[The Wood]

im stumped with that 1 blade

[wildcat]

You do know that the part about switching discs was not a jab at the 360, right? It was a reference to the PS1 because **SPOILER I GUESS** that codec took place exactly where you had to switch discs in the PS1 version at Shadow Moses.

Kojima and many developers who get accused of being fanboys, I think are too intelligent for that nonsense. Be it Kojima or Itagaki, if they feel their game will shine the most on one platform, so be it.

[themyk]

i'm not sure what the big deal is. kojima works for konami. a third party developer. so why wouldn't they have 360's. doesn't mean that mgs4 is being ported over. besides the 360 has a different crowd

[Rageanitus]

Do you honestly know Kojima's strategy??
How is Kojima a fanboy when he allowd different iterations of MGS brand go onto the cube and xbox 1.. IT all comes down the BUSINESS deals and its more to deal with money than being a fanboy.

Who' knows they might make a game for the xbox 360, No stopping them cuz there is money to be made. Or it can be just a system in the office so they can Scope out new ideas from OTHER games.

Sorry but money talks, and fanboy noise is only a small picture of the industry

[yanikins111]

<sigh>

They can dream.

[MazzingerZ]

The best thing to do is to pick up a PS3 to play MGS4 at its max. potential...a port would never be the same, if that is really possible. The PS3 is receivig a good bunch of exclusives this year, well worth it.

[Wildarmsjecht]

The site was updated. It's a regular 360. Not a dev kit, stop hating on MGS4 one day, and then creaming yourself when you think it's coming to 360 the next. I for one think it's being used as a paper weight.. :P just kidding.

[tako2000]

It seem like regular X360 unit, not surprise since Kojima said himself that "he and his team enjoy X360 games as well".
Beside I wouldn't be surprise next title go multi-platform. Kojima don't hold grudge toward specific platform like "some director", it is always good to see more gamer enjoy good game. ^^

[n00bzRtehgey]

duh, dev kits are bigger than that, and not white.

it's obvious kojima and pals want to actually play some games in between movie time--whoops... I mean MGS4 making time.

[REDZEV]

Its good to see the usual group of SONY fanboys are enjoying themselves today around the campfire. In all seriousness though you are having fun and enjoying the success of MGS4 and thats great you should. I mean you guys really dont get that many promising games as you should from sony and its not your fault. the thing is you can all disagree with me all you want but mark my words... MGS4 is coming to the 360 whether you like it or not. personally I could care less if it was coming to 360. Ive finished the other three on the ps1 and ps2 and its still the same game nothing really new. but mark my words it will be out in about years time its been in development for over 10 months i know. Have a good day and keep gaming

[n00bzRtehgey]

what do u know, I was right.

it turns out kojima had those 360s in there for his developers to play gears, mass effect, and halo 3.

pure ownage to all sony droids.

[digger18]

n00bzRtehgey just grow up and stop acting like a complete twat.

[OmarJA]

he's a pathetic xbot and a noob too

[WickedRabbit]

@ jaja1434,

Nope I'm not. All ready own it for PC. Like I said, I don't wait a year for good games to hit a system. I just go out and play it.

[Rims]

All getting hyped up and only to get owned again. lol

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Even PS3 developers prefere to play on a 360

[devilhunterx]

or use it to heat the office.

[Xbox is the BEST]

can make money (serious money) on the 360.

[hotshot127]

by porting a game a year later on the 360?

by porting a game that MOST of his fans will already have?

you do know it cost money to port a game right.....
espicially to port a game that was built for the ps3(bluray, cell, harddrive etc...)

so exactly how many copies do you think a 360 port would sell? (this should be good)

[Xbox is the BEST]

I say anything about MGS4? Make a different game, I'm sure Kojima is a creative person.

[REDZEV]

for one moment hotshot put your feelings your opinions and your pathetic Emo fanboy passion for Sony aside could you do this??? Mgs: Substance was released on the original xbox and did quite good as I believe it sold over a couple Million which is quite good considering this was close to being a launch date title for the xbox. KONAMI has had a huge success with Silenthill series also. Next month xboxlive will be getting one of the MGS games for download I cant remember which one. so you see hotshot you fail to see the bigger picture as all you Emo sony fanboys most of time do. at the end of the day its all about money not that your a loyal fanboy that wears MGS underoos to bed. MGS4 is coming to the 360 whether you like it or not trust me on this I know hotshot.

[Obama]

Stop lying REDZEV. Msg subsistance didn't sell a couple million on the xbox. It did very poorly and didn't even reach half a million.

[etownone]

bubbles to rez.

it just amazes me everytime i hear sonykiddies screaming how MGS is Sony exclusive when as you pointed out has already been on original Xbox and coming to 360 LIVE arcade and Nintendo Gamecube.

This place is overrun by sonydroids 4-1... so i can only imagine the day it is annouced that MGS4 will appear on the 360, what will the sonydroids say then?

[karlostomy]

Can you imagine the core Sony troll herd when it does come to 360? (or a variation of it?)

Nasim, Juuken, Obama ...etc will comit mass suicide!

Don't do it guys... there is life beyond MGSIV!

/endsrcsm

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

HAHA poor Droids, even thier developers prefere to play on a real gaming console. I guess Kojims got tired of watching that movie they were making and wanted to play some real games, that are actualy games. Or maybe they just wanted to send messages back and forth without having to exit what ever game they were playing. Or maybe after looking at black and white PS3 games, they needed a color fix.

XD

[hotshot127]

you said the 360 has america and now has europe and that mgs4 didnt break any records.

hahahah oh man, there were so many things wrong with you comment, it was laughable.

so first, please provide the link that says the 360 is NOW winning europe. and by you saying "now winning europe", i would assume that the 360 was getting its asses kicked in europe before but have now started to outsell the ps3....thus where your "now have europe" came from

so you were contradicting yourself, since you THOUGHT that the 360 was "now winning europe" because you THOUGHT it was outselling the ps3 then that means, by your logic, that the ps3 has america since it has been outselling the 360 all through out 2008.

now if you had left europe out of the equation, i would have taken your comment alittle more serious but adding in europe made the whole thing a failure.

and as far as mgs4 goes, no it didnt break any records, thats okay though because its still the highest rated exclusive out of the 360 and ps3 and you cant change that. or even better, im not sure if this was your words or that dumbass ETTOWNE but "you can't argue with facts".lol

and i notice, you really had nothing constructive to say yesterday about my comment because it was all facts but instead you decided to relate to false sales about europe........pathetic.lol

EDIT: go ahead and read this comment over and over again so you it can make sense to you because i know your probably pondering what im talking about right now reading it over and over again. take your time jason......take your time.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

You actualy spend more time reading the news on this site, and not so much time getting news from the comment section...:)

[hotshot127]

i'll even help you out.........im WAITING. lol you fail hard......unless you have the link.........

i have a feeling i'll be waiting longer then you do for a refurbished 360.......

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Next time do your own homework http://www.n4g.com/industry...

[etownone]

you know it's like he was asking for it, and kept asking, and asking, until .........BAMM!!!

Jason360 pwned hotsh1t

[karlostomy]

Isn't that a true indication of the state of affairs?

The SDF waits with its head in the sand....ignoring reality as usual
and 360 fans are forced to supply the cold hard evidence to shut them up.

Well Done Jason. You owned that poor guy.

[devilhunterx]

Further proof that us PS3 owners got the best exclusive game this generation :P

[kewlkat007]

see even he played Xbox 360 and it's great games..

I do not doubt MGS4, given if it was on 3 disc is not capable on the 360. That graphics is good but doe snot scream you can't do me.

Maybe it would have compressed sound instead and use compression techniques but the games is linear and there is no BACK TRACKING from what I can see.

So not like an RPG, this game you could play straight even on Multiple disc, no problem.

[Says you]

Its only an XBox 360 and he is already making serious money and plus you guys are just one retarded bunch with a delusional mind go back to playing with your crappy system with a big ass power brick that I call delusionalbox 360

[Homicide]

Yeah, those guys are tards.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Who was saying it was a dev kit?

[Aclay]

This is so old. I watched my Special Edition DVD with MGS4 like, last week. The ONLY thing that was shown in the video was a Xbox 360 controller, there wasn't even a visible 360 console anywhere, JUST A CONTROLLER. Just because there was a Xbox 360 controller shown, does that mean that they have 360 dev. kits?.... NO! it does not mean that.

It's a shame that a website starts hyping up rumors and other bull crap based on assumptions and not actual factual info.

[Ex The God]

Lol @ all the ps3 fanboyism in here...also there are dev units that look like regular skus

[jackdoe]

And at all the quick 360 fanboy turnaround! So after all that time blasting MGS4, they now want the game?

[Dark General]

So the guy likes to play Halo 3 and Gears of War on his lunch breaks.

[highdro]

kojima might be making a game for the 360,>>y is that picture news<<, i belive game dev make games for consoles and the 360 is a console so y will he not make a game for them,i dont know y pple think kojima will neva make a game for the 360 just because he has been making games for sony for over 20 years, at the end of the day he is a game dev and he can make a game for any platform he likes, but dont think MGS4 is coming to the 360 people,every console has their exlusive that stays exlusive no matter how many rumors comes out.

[themyk]

i've got an idea, if you want to play this game go get a ps3. because guess what? this isn't the only amazing EXCLUSIVE coming our way this year. so even if hell froze over and frozen pigs flew out, and this game comes out for the 360 you're still not getting the rest of our amazing games.

[fufotrufo]

ps3 fans won't sleep tonight lol

" OMG !! WHY DO THEY HAVE A 360!?! WHYY!? PLEASE GOD DON'T LET US LOOSE THE ONLY GOOD GAME OUR SYSTEM HAVE "

... back to work :)

[devilhunterx]

xb2 is losing more exclusive then ps3.

[Rageanitus]

Its article like these that show that xbox fanboys want mgs4, and with this much interest in this small picture they truly believe it is a development kit and t hey think mgs4 is coming to xbox.

As the saying goes dream on.

[NexGen76]

You Xbots are funny as hell there zero chance you will see MGS4 on the heat box.The game will not fit plus with the audio file itself(17GB)would not fix a DVD-9 Kojima would never take a master piece like MGS4 on PS3 & cut major corner to make it fit a 360 console damm you xbots must don't have anything to play......Thats right you don't because you don't see AAA exclusives anymore.....LOL

[fufotrufo]

oh funny sony fans.. im not saying its coming..but i bet they canned Lost Oddysey and Blue Dragon ..cus multiple disc is imposible to do..anyway ..cut corners? or cutscenes? wait ..movies? ..yeah ..xbox fans don't see AAA games..too bad ps3 din't have one to begin with lol

[TABSF]

well there has been 3 major mgs exclusives and 2 games

MGS (twin snakes was not made by kojima it was silicon knights) dowt is coming to XBL
MGS3 as we all know
MGS portable ops (that explained more of story)

MG acid
MG acid 2 both are terrible games

plus the metal gear database that explains everything

hideo explain that mgs2 was a mistake and that i does not want to repeat it

dowt it mgs4 will come to xbox dew to technical falls of hardware

[XxOsIIruSxX]

THE DAY MSG4 GOES TO
360
IS THE DAY HALO COMES TO PS3!!!
LOOOOLOLLOLLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLO LOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOLOLLO!!LOLOL!!LOLOLOL!!LOLO L!!
LOL!!!! YOU GUYS WANT IT THAT BAD HUH LOL!

[XxOsIIruSxX]

PS3 GAMES ARE ACTUALLY REAL EXCLUSIVE!.LOL
THEY WONT MAKE IT TO PC LOL

UNLIKE YOUR GEARS AND HALO !!LOL!!

[Rhezin]

I don't need this game, but it'll probably go to 360 looking at this news and I'll welcome it into my 360 library.

sucks for anyone who bought a ps3.

[etownone]

Same goes for me, except when it comes out on 360, i won't be buying it because it sounds more like a movie than a game, i'll rent it, same way I do with all my movies.

[Dark General]

by how people say it's a movie. It took me 27 hours to beat the game and the cutscenes amount to 8 hours in total. Seriously though MGS4 is a good game, not the best ever but a really good game that anyone should enjoy playing.

[etownone]

I own a 360 and my friend that is a casual gamer owns a 360 and heard the hype for MGS4 and asked me if he should get a mgs4 ps3 bundle even though he wasn't interested in playing MGS substance when it came out for Xbox.

I told him it rated really high, and it's the only AAA game PS3 has at the moment. The only thing I hear negative about the game is the 8-10 hour cutscenes... my friend thought I was kidding.

When he found out I was telling him the truth, he was like fuk that sh1t!! That's like sitting through the Lord of Rings trilogy, the extended versions!!

Then i told him, if you really want to give it a try, wait about a year when it gets ported to 360 and you can give it a rent.

[Dark General]

At first i thought MGS4 would head to the 360 a year later like you said (like what happened with mgs2) but after playing the game i'm skeptical about it now. I'm not so sure it'll make it to the 360 specially since it's selling like hotcakes.

But what i'm noticing alot though is people are forgetting about the nature of the business. Each console have exclusives it's how this industry works. Weather it was Ps3 owners talking about Gears of War or Mass Effect coming to the Ps3 or 360 owners talking about MGS4 coming to the 360 why can't you just enjoy what you have? It's one of the things that goes into consideration when buying a console taking into account which games you will and won't be getting. So a console have a exclusive game you want big deal you can't get everything you want. As one of my friends say "There's people in hell that want ice water".

[Obama]

You are not a good friend as it will not be ported to the 360. Konami and Kojima both said no, so how many times do they have to convince you through your thick skull? I guess bots just love to make up rumors and convince themselves that they are true.

[Helblazer360]

MGS4 for Xbox360

[XxOsIIruSxX]

YOU DONT NEED THE GAME ?.! BUT YET YOU WOULD BUY IT FOR 360
YEA AND IM BUYING HALO 4 WHEN IT COMES OUT FOR PS3 !!LOL!!

THATS HOW DUM YOU PEOPLE SOUND WHEN YOU KEEP
HOPING
WISHING
WANTING MSG4

LOL!!SHOULD HAVE GOT A PC/PS3 TO PLAY THE BEST GAMES
SORY KID GO PLAY ON 360
WAIT HAS ANYTHING EVEN COME OUT FOR 360 THAT ANYGOOD
IN THE LAST YEAR

YOU WATCH DVD
I WATCH BLUE
YOU HAVE 4.7
I HAVE 55GB

DONT SAY YOU HAVE HALO OR GEARS CAUSE THIER ON PC
BUT EVEN THO KEEP THOSE
IM LOOKING FORWARD TO PLAY

The above information will also appear on your receipt
26 reasons for PS3
- MGS4 DAM!!
- Haze
- LittleBigPlanet
- Killzone 2 DAM!!
- Home
- FF XIII DAAMMMMMM!!
- Gran Turismo 5 Prologue DAMM!!!!!!!
- The Getaway 3 WOW!
- SOCOM: CONFRONTATION OW NOOO!!!!
- The Agency
- L.A. Noir SICK!
- Resistance 2 64 !!!ONLINE 8 MAN COOP !WOW~!TRY DO THAT ON 360
-
LET ME SHUT UP CAUSE I REST MY CASE KEEP HALO-GEARS WAIT I GOT PC !LOL!

Eight Days
- Gran Turismo 5 (full game)
- Heavy Rain
- InFamous
- Jak and Daxter: The lost frontier
- Metal Gear Online OMG CANT WAIT!!!
- Motorstorm 2
- Naruto: PS3 Project
- Red dead revolver 2
- Star ocean 4
- steamboat chronicles 2
- tekken 6 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOWWWWWWWWWW!
- White Knight chronicles

[XxOsIIruSxX]

THE DAY MSG4 GOES TO
360
IS THE DAY HALO COMES TO PS3!!!
LOOOOLOLLOLLOLOLOLOLLOOLOLOLO LOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOLOLLO!!LOLOL!!LOLOLOL!!LOLO L!!
LOL!!!! YOU GUYS WANT IT THAT BAD HUH LOL

[jackdoe]

Meh. Hopefully this keeps 360 fanboys from mindlessly blasting MGS4. However, that looks more like a 360 console than a dev kit (something that is more likely as the whole Kojima Productions staff played GeoW to draw inspiration for controls).

[XxOsIIruSxX]

DONT SAY YOU HAVE HALO OR GEARS CAUSE THIER ON PC
BUT EVEN THO KEEP THOSE
IM LOOKING FORWARD TO PLAY

The above information will also appear on your receipt
26 reasons for PS3
- MGS4 DAM!!
- Haze
- LittleBigPlanet
- Killzone 2 DAM!!
- Home
- FF XIII DAAMMMMMM!!
- Gran Turismo 5 Prologue DAMM!!!!!!!
- The Getaway 3 WOW!
- SOCOM: CONFRONTATION OW NOOO!!!!
- The Agency
- L.A. Noir SICK!
- Resistance 2 64 !!!ONLINE 8 MAN COOP !WOW~!TRY DO THAT ON 360
-
LET ME SHUT UP CAUSE I REST MY CASE KEEP HALO-GEARS WAIT I GOT PC !LOL!

Eight Days
- Gran Turismo 5 (full game)
- Heavy Rain
- InFamous
- Jak and Daxter: The lost frontier
- Metal Gear Online OMG CANT WAIT!!!
- Motorstorm 2
- Naruto: PS3 Project
- Red dead revolver 2
- Star ocean 4
- steamboat chronicles 2
- tekken 6 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOWWWWWWWWWW!
- White Knight chronicles

[XxOsIIruSxX]

PS3 GAMES ARE ACTUALLY REAL EXCLUSIVE!.LOL
THEY WONT MAKE IT TO PC LOL

UNLIKE YOUR GEARS AND HALO !!LOL!!

[GUNS N SWORDS]

as funny as seeing a 360 standing on the desk not more than a few feet away from kojima san, i still don't think it really means anything yet, a few months to a year ago on you tube i saw kojima looking at gears of war on 360,

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

but even still i don't think that means much, i just think he's curious about what other consoles have to offer,

[mistertwoturbo]

GUNS, Twin Snakes is actually also producded by Kojima. He just wasn't the director. It also says "Produced by Hideo Kojima" right on the box art.

[trancefreak]

awwwww look at all the xkiddies getting excited over a ps3 game that will never come to the crap box 360

[Rageanitus]

If that desk was a true developers table why do you have a NORMAL ps3 right beside the xbox.

The ps3 dev kit is bigger and looks more like a box.

It just seems that it is table where they play games to get ideas from other games.

[FKN Unbelievable]

Kojima Was developing MGS4 he was playing All the Games on Xbox 360 that MGS4 heavily relied on for preferences. Gear of War for its third person system along with the Cover system style and schematics, Call of duty for the Aim sites schematics, Halo 3 for Online refernce ETC. Who knows.If i was trying to Reinvent 10 year old gameplay i would've have borrowed from these blockbusters to.

[KrimsonKody]

LM(MF)AO, Would U believe my 9 year old niece had pointed this out to me ...for laughs? SHEAR CLASSIC!

[XBOX 360]

lol debunked. Go home 360kiddies, no MGS4 for you.

[GameDev]

this game has dealt to xbots is still being felt by them and will be for a long time to come.

btw Id love to know whos the pole smoking mod that keeps banning me to the open zone for putting offensive and often times moronic xbots in their place??

doubt im going to hang around this place for too long.

[Maddens Raiders]

when will *this rumor ever die?

It's been going since 2006 and 360 fans continue to get tortured by this ((maybe, could, might, should)) crap.

Solution: If you want the game that badly buy a PS3 and be happy playing it the way it was intended.

[XxCYONIDExX]

Anybody think that just maybe the workers like to play other games than just in the MGS series or any other playstation games.