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Sony PS4 Is Well Ahead Of Microsoft Xbox One In Germany

boerse-online.de writes: Sony sold 1.2 million PS4 units in Germany, whereas Microsoft sold 270,000 Xbox One units.

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DarkOcelet3416d ago

Ouch that's like 6 to 1. They have a lot of catching up to do.

Ezz20133416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

We all know that Ps4 is only winning because
xbox is in only 42 places
and don't tell me that Ps4 is outselling Xbox in those 42 places because that doesn't matter

What matter is Xbox won 1 Nov NPD Vs. Ps4 11 month wins in a row in US/UK
That means the gap is closing soo fast
and i don't care about worldwide sales gap
Anyway, By the end of this gen Xbox will lead by at least 50 million Console

And not only that
DX12 is coming which means Xbox will be on par with Ps4 in graphics and framerate
Xbox is winning this race

i come to this opinion using Logic and Science and Facts
Because i'm smart and use 10.1% of my brain

I hope i don't lose my bubbles because that's my honest opinion

ashen1223416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

hilarious use of sarcasm on the internet

and look at what heman76 said below close to the same thing but he was serious lmao

mediate-this3416d ago

Who cares who is on top. As long as they both are selling thats all that matters. 16 to 9 million. Since when do products sales go neck and neck.

They are both doing good, ps4 is doing fantastic.fanboys just kill it so bad with these crappy articles

Ch1d0r13416d ago

You deserve more bubbles, those are some funny comments.

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Ra30303416d ago

And how dare you forget the "secret sauces" that can be whatever they want them to be or need them to be at anytime they need. leaving the "secret sauces" out is like forgetting just how important the shovel is that's used around here to move the goal post as needed on a daily basis. "Secret sauces" = WINNING! for Microsoft.

cheetah3416d ago

Brilliant! Unfortunately your genius will be lost on a lot of people.

DarXyde3416d ago

This is brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

I'm guessing many of those disagrees are people who aren't native English speakers and sarcasm gets lost in translation.

MasterCornholio3416d ago

I see you're doing a good job with making fun of FOE Hammer.

LOL

Illusive_Man3416d ago

You come off as very insecure.

noctis_lumia3416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

huh no
ps4 won november overall which is what matters

and you r way to delusional if you think the xbox will win against the ps4

dont forget that sony didnt do a price cut if they do tho expect the gap to be way bigger

and also as for the dx 12...team ICE say hello to ya

johndoe112113416d ago

@Illusive_Man

If you really want to know what insecurity sounds like you should probably read a lot more of your own posts.

GoGoGadge73415d ago

I'd like to point out that this entire thing made no sense.

Unless you are from the future. Then I will believe anything you say.

Hardcore_gamerxbox3415d ago

Haha Mr funny just to remind you Xbox 360 outsold your beloved PS3 36 months in a row

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AndrewLB3416d ago

Germany and Japan are no stranger to helping each other out. heh... I wonder if Italy is also overwhelmingly PS4 biased?

reaperofsouls3416d ago

It's because Germans are only interested in quality

medman3415d ago

Sony ps4 is well ahead of Microsoft xbone in....everywhere.

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emilijo7773416d ago

Good job SONY! Proud to be on a winners side.

in germany PS4 has 1 million lead

in UK 500k

in japan 800k

in US 700k

3 million lead in only 4 countries.

BitbyDeath3416d ago

GAF also has quoted -

"Rest of Europe has same or worse sales ratios [as Germany] for Xbone, except UK"

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Dunno if true

Enemy3416d ago

That's a massive worldwide lead then.

HeMan763416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

Who cares? NA and UK are the biggest markets for game industry and I dont believe MS care rest of the Europe except UK.Rest of the Europe counts as a bonus for MS.They already gonna be the leader console of NA and Uk next year.Germans are very weird people.I live in Germany but not a German!

Its a habit.They have been playing PlayStation for years and Xbox is a very foreign product for them.Those numbers quiet normal.

BitbyDeath3416d ago

@heman,

If UK + US = 1.3 million difference over MS and Sony are around 7 million (give or take) ahead that means Sony are getting around 5.3 million sales from these "smaller markets".

Pretty sure that is something to care about.

Ghoul3416d ago

heman76
"They have been playing PlayStation for years and Xbox is a very foreign product for them"

no sir you dont live in germany nor do you have any clue. I am German, and the 360 was a huge sucess and in almost every gamers household.

well thast changed with ps4, if there is one thing to say about germans than that we dnot have that blind company loyalty for example americans have.

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Pogmathoin3416d ago

Proud to be on a winners side..... Ffs... I play the best of Xbox.... I play the best of PS, I do not lose on great games because of brand loyalty...... Tell me what is winning side again, it used to be about games..... I had zx48, C64.... Amiga, ST.... Sega, Nintendo.... PS, Xbox.....

Chris123416d ago

Well said, when being on a 'winning side' is more important than playing games, you've lost in life.

Why o why3416d ago

Don't be salty but kudos on being a spectrum, amiga and atari owner.

SegaGamer3416d ago

@HeMan76

Come on, don't be so ridiculous, of course countries outside of the UK and US matter. Germany is basically selling as many PS4's as the UK.

Hardcore_gamerxbox3415d ago

Let's add together how many next generation has been sold in uk and how many has been sold in Germany? if ps4 selling good there that doesn't mean German will be good market for Microsoft . Microsoft mainly care about uk and use as they been last generation too

stiggs3416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

@emilijo777

Pride [noun]
a high or inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, merit, or superiority, whether as cherished in the mind or as displayed in bearing, conduct, etc.

Pride comes pretty easy these days. According to some, in order to elevate your position in life all one has to do is purchase a particular brand of an electronic gaming device.

"I'm so proud of you son."
"Thanks Dad."

/s

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MadMenX3416d ago

They will not catch up, but they will win the US, which if you care about, which I do, its what matters for me and my consoles.

But I wont miss out on UC4 ;)

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RosweeSon3416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

Any self respecting gamer generally worries about one country alone when it comes to gaming 2 possibly if you include the one you live in but with me its all about Japan, I dont even really like Rpg's (I'll play zelda of course and a bit of chinpokemon) let alone JRPG's but there's no doubting they not only make some of the craziest and best games around but they also have made 95% of the greatest games consoles that us gamers have ever laid our gaming hands on, from master system/NES onwards every single fantastic console excluding the xbox 360 (which before people disagree due to them not being able to read I am saying 360 IS a good console!) but 360 is one good console every other great console since master system/NES days has come from Japan. Japan all the way master system NES Snes Mega drive genesis sega Saturn n64 gamecube dreamcast ps1/2/3/4 game boy, colour, advance, DS, 3DS, Xl, Wii U, yeah Japan all the way.
But in direct response to the article what can you say... Germans have got some sense/style.

StarLord_Who3416d ago

No self respecting gamer worries about console sales, especially in this day and age. If you make a next gen console and you are a multi billion dollar company, it is going to sell.

I would call myself a self respecting gamer and i only worry about the quality of games, not how they look, not who owns them, the quality.

JustAnotherTruther3416d ago

Look at all these losers on here talking about sales as if means anything for them. McDonalds is the best place to eat on Earth. It has to be. It's most popular! Consoles=PERSONAL PREFERENCE! There is no better or worse fanboys.

Paytaa3416d ago

Sad thing is, you are in the vast minority with that mindset. I've never cared which console sells the most or which company makes what. It all boils down to having fun and what you prefer.

MegaRay3416d ago

Sales matter. If a console is selling bad, third-party developers wont develop for it. (See WiiU for example)
So yeah it does matter.

No_Limit3416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

@MegaRay,

Not totally true. the Wii sold a ton in almost every territory and major third party support was abysmal at best.

Marketing, online ecosystem, spec in concurrent with price, also are important consideration for getting third party support. The XB1 not only sold the most hardware in the usa but softwares as well in November according to NPD and Live has the most online players at anytime in their history..it is not a coincident that price, quality of games, online ecosystem, are all aligning at the same time.

Like I said in my post below, the USA dictates what the developers from all part of the world will do with their gaming release and not Germany or any smaller countries.

JackBNimble3416d ago

That's some EGO there son... America is but one slice of the pie.

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Tomb Raider Remastered just quietly censored one in-game detail

Tomb Raider 1-3 Remastered players are ticked off by the game’s most recent patch, which censors in-game pin-up posters of Lara Croft.

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rlow113h ago

This is why gaming is screwed. When people change things to fit someone’s agenda, it’s a slippery slope downhill.

Christopher12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Even if that agenda is of the developer? Way to remove developer rights.

***One player called it a “huge problem with modern games,” saying they can now be “ruined AFTER people buy them”.***

The level of drama. Yes, I recall sitting there for more hours than I did anything else in the game. These two pinups are the core of the game, after all!

coolbeans11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

rlow1's cringe catastrophizing aside, I do think developers *ought* to strive to maintain an original work to the best of their ability. The language of a "remaster" tacitly implies that - for good or ill - what's being resold is what fans remember but better.

Profchaos11h ago

Games can be ruined after purchasing them yeah we know this not from this but from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal.

This pin up poster is a bit of nonsense but the whole argument of modern games can be ruined post launch is Absol true.

DedicatedDark10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

It's not their work to censor. They are incharge of restoration & remastering the work, not overwriting it.

Barlos9h ago

It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score.

Way to support censorship...

victorMaje9h ago

It’s not the end of the world for sure, but I understand the hate towards this kind of change. I believe it’s also a matter of principle.

Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people.

Have all original devs signed off on this change? Even if it’s the case, are we saying older gamers are better mentally equipped to process what was there than current gamers, hence the change?

Enough time ago the case was made that games are an art form. We’re supposed to have won that case.
So which is it? Are games art or not?

Aphrodia1h ago

And what of the rights of the buyer? The ones that purchased this game with hard earned money? They bought a product that is now being changed into a different product. Surely you would stand up for them since you are about "rights"?

Christopher58m ago

***It's not their work to censor. ***

They own the IP. It's theirs too do with as they wish.

***It's not the agenda of the developer though, they're pandering and trying to increase their ESG score. ***

You got proof of this? And even if this were true, isn't it the developer right to want whatever an ESG score is?

***from GTA IV which had half it's radio content patched out due to licensing expirations and to me that was a huge deal. ***

Licensed music is always going to get changed unless they can afford to keep paying those fees sadly.

***Imagine a Picasso painting being restored & the restorer deciding there aren’t enough strokes, or some lines aren’t straight enough or curved enough…not sure it would/should sit well with people. ***

You do know in the original that the artwork is extremely pixelated so you can't even tell what it is, right? Shouldn't we then be arguing that they increased the detail of this artwork at all then? Why the remaster? Picasso got it right already with the original.

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Eidolon9h ago

Hasn't this been happened for over a decade since remasters? I can't see that it's any worse now. Maybe if Sweet Baby starts getting their hands on remasters we will definitely have a problem.

Rebel_Scum12h ago

tbh I dont see something like this as censorship. Does anyone else not find it strange for someone to stick pin ups of themsleves in a locker room?

Now of it was a pin up of some half naked firefighters it might make sense as Lara might like that, and if they removed that I would cry censorship. But removing pin ups of the main character, yeah I get it.

Barlos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

It's a game, and they were placed there for the audience. It's not real life. If it was, she wouldn't have fought a T-Rex now would she?

Yes, it's censorship but it's a bit less in your face. If they were in the original game, then they should have been in the remasters. It's bad enough that they have that ridiculous unnecessary warning at the start, but then they start removing things post launch. I don't care how small the change, they shouldn't be doing it. It's nothing but ESG pandering but in a subtle way.

Rebel_Scum7h ago

Look bro, if you have pictures of yourself naked on a bear skin rug up in your house let me tell you, its not normal.

jambola6h ago

I wasn't aware censorship was based on what made sense to you

Rebel_Scum6h ago

Likewise, what a stupid comment.

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Aphrodia1h ago

And Lara Croft is also a mass murderer everywhere she goes. Why didn't they patch that out as well? See, anyone can spew pedantic BS.

CrimsonWing6951m ago

How is it not censorship? They are removing suggestive content due to not wanting to offend SJWs and woke people. They literally removed something already in the game that nobody even thought twice about just like a movie on cable television is edited for content… y’know, like literally removing scenes because of not wanting to offend a public audience? How is this different?

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SimpleDad8h ago

By the year 2030, this remaster collection will totally be changed and censored. Probably will remove Lara as a playable character. It's ridiculous. Glad that my family didn't buy this.
I still have Tomb Raider 2 PS1 as a memory.

jambola6h ago

Those shorts are a little revealing
Should probably make them snow pants

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Christopher57m ago

Have fun falling off that cliff at the end of the slippery slope.

CobraKai8h ago

It’s mentioned in the article, and it’s a point i 100% agree with, it’s the fact that they can censor a game after you buy it. That’s total bullshit.

Christopher56m ago

Just FYI, every game has that right.

Killer2020UK7h ago

Whilst it's an overreaction to say this has "ruined" the game, it's still problematic that this has happened post launch and for many, post-purchase.

I don't want someone to change a product for the worse after I've bought it. The same goes for implementing micro transactions after reviews.

I wonder why they did this? Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

maykhausonninh7h ago

Nobody was kicking up a fuss as far as I'm aware.

Christopher56m ago

My thinking is that the original artworks might be community created.

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