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Rise of the Misunderstandings

Seeing the word “exclusively” used in conjunction with a platform you don’t currently own can be frustrating. The business side sometimes gets in the way of players eagerly awaiting their next chance to play certain games. Today at Gamescom, gamers discovered a deal with Microsoft for exclusive rights to Tomb Raider: Rise of the Tomb Raider, blocking them out of experiencing the game on other consoles. It’s a common tactic among console manufacturers, but before you grab your pitchforks and rally the troops, pay close attention to the wordage used when describing this exclusivity deal.

MeLoveRamen3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

It is a guarantee timed exclusive, just rewatch the event every lifetime real exclusive for the xbox 1 said "ONLY ON XBOX 1" on the screen after their trailers and the Tomb Raider trailer it said " EXCLUSIVELY ON XBOX 1 HOLIDAY 2015" case solve its timed it will release for ps4 later.

Also shows how dirty Ms is with their PR talk and not clarifying anything, just giving a vague statement to fool the short minded gamer, where Sony was actually very clear whether a game was going to first appear on playstation "Hellblade....etc" or if the game was going to be a lifetime exclusive like "Rime....etc"

S2Killinit3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

MS pulled this type of thing in E3 as well, when they made it sound like everything we saw up to a certain point was coming before the holidays, this led to the whole "PS4 doesn't have games for 2014" ordeal. Where in reality PS4 had more games coming in 2014.

DigitalHope3534d ago

I also loved how MS when talking about Destiny used Sonys own words /s

"Best place to play" no thanks MS.

nicksetzer13534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

MS exec already said it is not timed, in direct contrast to geoff who started the rumor it was timed. So it is not timed, simple as that. At least not for PS4, maybe for PC.

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ThePope3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

Didn't Sony have a deal with Blizzard to not talk about the X1 version of Diablo till the last second...Oh that's right its ok if its Sony, my Bad.

@Nick And I would guess the MS executive knows more than a TV personality...

DigitalRaptor3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

@ nicksetzer1

You're trusting the word of Aaaron Greenberg of all people? He's a professional fanboy and consistently spread sh*t online about PS3, lies and most of all, now he sits there watching at how everything he said about PS3 is now happening to the Xbone and acts like it's all okay. Greenberg is the person anyone should least listen to when it comes to Xbox.

Tomb Raider is timed. It just is. Microsoft has a deep history of lying and saying something is exclusive and it ends up not being. It's happened twice or more this gen already. I honestly don't think they understand what the word means - meanwhile Sony is honest about games being a "console debut".

LordMaim3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

@nicksetzer1: All Greenberg said was "That is not what we said" but didn't clarify their statement by using the term "permanent" or "lifetime" exclusive. It's an easy statement to make, and both Microsoft and Crystal Dynamics carefully avoided saying it, multiple times throughout the day. When asked directly if the exclusive was a lifetime exclusive, both MS and CD have remained resolutely silent.

That fact should make the situation very clear.

For those waiting for this game, tune in for 2016 and you'll see it happen on PS4.

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LethalButterfly3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

Totally agree ,i have been saying this in all the other articles. all the clues where there, still at least sony have the class to use the word "timed"

im a pc gamer so dont usually get involved but ms have come out even worse from this i feel

Torgul3534d ago

Did you watch last E3? Just saying....

SniperControl3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

I dont get this move by CD and SE, 10 million PS4's sold (to customers) less than 5 mill sold(shipped) for X1, who do CD think are gonna be the top console in 2015.

They just broke even on the last TR across all platforms, MS must have shoved a ton off cash into those greedy pockets.

Less and less i want to buy an x1, it is quickly dropping down my shopping list of things to buy because of these tactics by ms.

nicksetzer13534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

Funny, because sony actually did this exact same thing with tomb raider 2. The original was on multiple platforms, then sony bought exclusivity for the sequel. Let me guess, it is different, right?

turdburgler10803534d ago

Oh come off it. So your not going to get to play tomb raider on your ps4. The sky isn't falling chicken little. People are throwing the biggest bitch fit over this. Quit being a negative nancy.

MorePowerOfGreen3534d ago

Oh Stop it already. Go outside and play.

ziggurcat3534d ago

MeLoveRamen is right, though... it doesn't say, "only on xbox one" like all of the other exclusive titles.

Elda3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

@ MeLoveRamen..Agreed!..people are going crazy about this for NO reason.CD/S-E knew what they were going up against (U4) & majority of PS owners attention would be purchasing & playing U4 but for some reason MS answer their prayers by purchasing timed exclusivity which is money gained for the money they wouldn't have made by PS owners when they would had released TR.

R1V3N3534d ago

He clearly stated on xbox exclusive 2015, everything else that was actually exclusive he said exclusive to xbox. When will people learn to listen and not go off half cocked all the time. Silly children. i watched the stream and said it would be a timed exclusive as soon as everyone started blowing up. But its said that as a community as a whole all we do is whine.

bonafide7323534d ago

@MeLoveRamen couldn't agree with your comment more. Just from observing different articles. People want so bad Tomb Raider to be fully exclusive. Sucks that just careful wording By MS has people so eager to believe that nonsense. Congrats to Xbox nation for having a "holiday exclusive" but as a person with common sense it baffles me that we as gamers are so eager to be played the fool by Both companies MS and Sony.

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gangsta_red3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

More than likely the game will come to PS4 after a year's time. No need for everyone to get upset.

I mean No Man's Sky is just as ambiguous in it's "exclusivity" and yet we don't get half of the supposed outrage on here we get when a game comes to Xbox One.

Edit @ RiPPn:
Sony never made it clear that No Man's Sky was a timed exclusive. Sony themselves has never made it clear which content is exclusive and which is not...perhaps the DEVELOPER has but never Sony. This is why Sony is passing off Destiney as their own.

Erode any trust with MS? LMAO, How? Because the game will come out years later on another system? This will diminish the fact that the game will still be played and enjoyed on Xbox first? Gawd, you sony fanboys are way over the top with your dramatics.

"I don't trust MS because they kind of said a game will be exclusive to their system! Now after a Year it's going to another system! ARRRGH! I'm so mad...."

If anyone is still playing this game after a year then MS should be commended on securing it for their system.

CODallday3534d ago

Because that's in sony's favor,and this is not. That is the only reason.

gangsta_red3534d ago

How can that be in Sony's favor and this not? You gave no reason at so please try and explain this?

ninsigma3534d ago

Wrong. There is a huge difference here. No man's sky is a brand new game that hasn't proved itself yet and has also been stated to be going to PC. Rise of the tomb raider is a sequal to a game that was available to most platforms and it has now been locked down to one, blocking a huge chunk of the fanbase from it. What if Sony came along and procure assassins creed or something similar as exclusive?? Would you be leniant then?

RiPPn3534d ago

Except Sony made it clear that No Mans Sky was only a timed exclusive, just like they did in today's conference when they made sure to tell which games were exclusive and which games had exclusive content. Maybe this is something else Microsoft should copy from Sony.. transparency instead of shady wordplay/horrible PR which continues to erode any trust consumers have in Microsoft.

Kane223534d ago

i've noticed that as well. when they announced every game that was timed and owned by them. something micro doesn't want people to know so they buy X1.

XStation3534d ago

Uh, when Microsoft were announcing those indies they kept saying "console debut on Xbox One."

Lenrulesdaworld3534d ago

Minus tomb raider, ms whole conference they said and post on screen on xbox 1st. No hid anything, until ms or se clarify its exclusive for 2015. Maybe it hits pc & not ps4. We wont know until further clarification from the companies.

ThatOneRiggaNob3534d ago

Welcome to the world of fanboys where hypocrisy takes the driver seat. I think you're right thought it probably will end up on PS4 later on in a years time. I hope it does because I'm sure this game is going to over the top and fun just like the Tomb Raider that came before that.

Spotie3534d ago

You, apparently, live in the world of willful ignorance.

It's nothing to do with hypocrisy.

ThatOneRiggaNob3534d ago

Oh really? Please explain yourself. Last time I checked Sony fanboys were excited about PS4 getting No Man's Sky first and possibly the Xbox One never getting a release but now that it's MS getting Tomb Raider with no talks of a PS4 release everyone is all up in arms.

Master-H3534d ago

No Man's Sky is a NEW IP indie title, meaning there aren't past customers fanbase for it on other platforms waiting for it.

This Tomb Raider is a SEQUEL to a largely successful 3rd party multiplatform franchise , meaning there are millions of fans of the first one that are waiting for the second game across PC ,ps3 and ps4, but because of MS money hatting , those fans which make up of MORE than half of the past game's sale are screwed and have to wait an additional or year or whatever to get it.

Both cases are not comparable, imagine if Mass Effect 4 was announced to be coming exclusively to PS4 in 2015 with no word about other platforms, i wonder what would be the reactions of the Xbox fans of the series , hmmmm.

gangsta_red3534d ago

OH WELL! Sux to be a PS4 owner then if you are that MAD at this.

MS is securing games for their system so Sony fanboys won't post on forums saying Xbox has no games. But once again the argument has shifted to MS is money hatting too many games for their system now...LOL. Hilarious!

You know who isn't mad....Xbox owners.

What about the millions of fans of Final Fantasy, Metal Gear and all other games that went from Nintendo to Sony? What about the new IP's from 3rd parties that appeared on PS1 instead of N64 or GC.

Hmmmm, I wonder what the reaction would be if that were the case about MAss Effect 4? Would PS4 fans be upset saying Sony money hats games? Or would you be on here saying PS4 is the best place to play games and "Xbox Done" or something equally as clever? We would probably get a lot of you explaining how devs are abandoning the Xbox for a more powerful system am I right? This would be followed by agrees and Well Said bubble ups.

I love this outrage and supposed "it's not the same" because one game is established and the other isn't. There is just as big of anticipation and hype for No Man's Sky as there is for this Tomb Raider game. So saying these two aren't the same is BS. No Man's Sky is appearing on PC and PS4, what reason is there for it not to appear on Xbox too? Hmmm...Sony money hatting the game maybe...OUTRAGE!

You just cant forgive one and be outraged at the other.

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incendy353534d ago

I am sure the details of the agreement have stipulations. Almost guaranteed it will come to PC for sure. Mostly because Microsoft would want it to.

Agent20093534d ago

Does it mean we're going to see lots of green color in the next game? You know, it's Xbox after all. I like green.

LuckyDuck123534d ago

Rise of TR will come to PS4 just like Resident Evil 4 came to PS2 lol

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jznrpg345d ago (Edited 345d ago )

Zero Dawn sold really well so I’m not sure this belongs. The second game released next to a big game again and it hurt it some I forget what it was though, oh yeah Elden Ring .
But a good game is a good game to me I don’t care when they release personally but they do have to think about it when you want to get more people to buy it.

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isarai458d ago (Edited 458d ago )

Deserves less IMO, i think the 1st in the new trilogy was a perfect 1st step for the new direction. The next 2 games were half steps at best. Not only that, every character in the series including Lara is just annoying and doesn't make sense in terms of motive, like yes they have a motive, but none of it seems proportional to the lengths they are willing to go through for it. The most annoying thing is every one of the games say "become the Tomb Raider" yet 3 games later and we're still not there? No thanks. Then there's the mess of the 3rd game, massive skill tree that serves almost no purpose as there's literally only like 3-4 short encounters in the whole game, and they took till the 3rd game to finally manage some decent puzzles even remotely close to previous games in the series. Nah, the trilogy infuriated me to no end as a long time fan of the series, i hope we get better going forward cause that crap sucked.

Army_of_Darkness456d ago

The first in the trilogy was my favorite. I thought they were going into the right direction with that one until the second one came out and seemed like a graphical downgrade but the gameplay was okay. As for the Third, Graphics were really nice but it was kinda boring me to death with its non-stop platforming and exploring with not enough action! Well, for me anyway...

DeathTouch456d ago

Graphics on the 3rd one were abysmal. It’s more colorful and has more variety, but everything else was a noticeable downgrade.

The more open world with NPC quests was also handled very poorly, to the point I missed Angel of Darkness.

thesoftware730456d ago

I know it is your opinion, but she did progress as a character in each game, she even got more muscular and seasoned.

That is the thing, people first complained that there was not enough platforming and actual tomb raiding in the first and second games. Shadow remedied that and kept the combat elements.

3-4 encounters? huh? did we play the same game? there was plenty of combat and, the skill tree did matter, like being able to hang enemies from trees, set explosives traps on bodies, being able to counter, and that are just a few of the combat skills. The skill tree also had things like being able to hold your breath underwater longer, crafting upgrades, zipline upgrade, and climbing upgrades that all changed how you can approach situations.

Not knocking your opinion, but we definitely had different experiences. I had 98% completion on the shadow.

SoulWarrior456d ago (Edited 456d ago )

Sorry but i'm with him about the low number of encounters, the game throws loads of weapons and skills you're way with a comparatively low amount of places to actually use them, so they felt under utilised.

-Foxtrot458d ago

Yeah...no

It was awful, for THREE GAMES it was "become the Tomb Raider" where she went back to square one after each game. Not to mention after a huge reaction of killing someone for the first time she then becomes Rambo straight after and goes on a slaughter spree without a single other reaction. Her development was all over the place.

She was whiney, weak and in later game a little arrogant and selfish

Oh and the voice actress compared to the previous ones was not as good

Lara Croft deserved better and while they are decent games as they are, we deserved actual Tomb Raider games, we could have had better survival games if they just stuck with the original Lara Crofts origin about her plane going down. Surviving 2 weeks in the Himalayas...I'd have liked to seen that, who knows what mystical threat she could have faced in the mountains or underground some secret concealed cave.

Tacoboto456d ago

I thought Shadow of the Tomb Raider had better gameplay than Rise, but it annoyed me the most of the trilogy when I stopped to think about the story.

It's like they deliberately decided to make her unlikeable and did nothing to make the character you're playing as likeable or have even one sign of humility.

SoulWarrior458d ago

2013 I thought was a fine entry, but Rise and especially Shadow were painfully mediocre follow ups imo, I really didn't like how selfish and angry her character was in those two.

Terry_B456d ago

No. Please forget the crap completely.

northpaws456d ago

First one was decent, played through it twice.
Second one was okay, played through it once.
Third one was really bad, tried twice a year apart, still can't get through the first two hours, it is just really bad.

thesoftware730456d ago

Honest question, what did you find bad about it? the opening 2 hrs of Shadow were fantastic imo.

The opening was very similar to the first 2, what did you find really bad?

Not looking for an argument, just an honest question.

Starman69456d ago

3rd one just didn't feel like a tomb raider game. Possibly because the development was passed to another development team. Big mistake! Microsoft killed tomb raider making the first game a timed exclusive. Never recovered after that.

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CrimsonWing69837d ago (Edited 837d ago )

They're all solid games, but nothing quite matched the epicness of the first one for me. I think the 3rd one started off strong but once you got to that Peruvian area it took a massive nose dive for me.

lelo2play837d ago (Edited 837d ago )

You got to be kidding!
The first one was great at the time... but this latest trilogy of Tomb Raider games are also great.

LiViNgLeGaCY837d ago

I think he means the first one in the new trilogy.

CrimsonWing69836d ago

I meant the first of the new trilogy.

Furesis837d ago

yeah i remember liking the first one when it came out, so i tried the second one sometime after release and i just could not get into it, i couldn't finish it. So i might try the 3rd now that i got it for free but ehh. But i do remember enjoying the first one, i wonder if i'd feel the same way if i played it today? Better not taint those memories lol

ANIALATOR136836d ago

I was the same for some reason. Never finished the second one. I got like half way through maybe.

ActualWhiteMan836d ago (Edited 836d ago )

The first one of the latest trilogy is a masterpiece

Fishy Fingers837d ago

I'll take a copy of Shadow... Cheers.

Profchaos837d ago

Great games I've played them all on ps4 but it'll be good to finally try shadow on my rtx card.

Double_O_Revan837d ago

Trying to claim them and the store keeps crashing. lol.

gamefreaks365837d ago

EGS has been having issues all day.

RedDevils837d ago

Weird I don't has that issue.

Double_O_Revan837d ago

I finally got it after a while. But it was real bad for a while.

PeeShuter837d ago (Edited 837d ago )

Claim games by going to the website and login using ur credentials. I did the same as i couldnt use epic launcher. Also try reinstalling Epic Launcher I did it and it worked.

Double_O_Revan836d ago

I always go through the website. It was all just down for a while yesterday it seems.

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