Who Cares About 1080P & 60FPS? I Sure Don’t

Chris Brandrick of Gamebrit writes: Maybe it’s just me, but I find the ongoing obsession with discussing and dissecting every game apart to see if it holds up to the seemingly ‘holy grail’ metric of 1080p and 60 frames-per-second thoroughly dull.

[darx]

I could careless about 1080/60

[johndoe11211]

Good for you, I paid 400 bucks for a next gen system after spending 8 years with the last gen ones. You sure as hell better believe I expect to get better resolutions and frame rates for the money i'm spending in games and accessories on this new gen. And if they fall short on the resolution and framerate they had better make my brain melt with mind blowing graphics.

[Ripsta7th]

See you guys say this but then when games like hotline miami come to ps4 and i complain about the graphics, im wrong?! You guys start telling me graphics dont matter and its all about gameplay, wtf?!?
Because thats exactly what i think, just payed $400 to play games i could on mobile?!?

[XtraTrstrL]

Yeah, these consoles basically came out in 2014. There's nothing wrong with wanting the standards to be set higher in resolution/fps/interactivity/a i/world-size/loading-times/etc.

[Vegamyster]

@Ripsta7th

Most people who buy new gaming machines whether it's consoles or PC do it primarily for AAA titles, Indies are a nice bonus but not the main reason people get a new system.

[Army_of_Darkness]

After playing the last of us remastered, I care even more now ;-)

[Gaming101]

lol darx, here come all the people to correct your grammar.

On topic - not caring about your AAA games looking good sounds like the backtracking excuse-making of everyone who bought the X-bone. If you remember last gen X-bots were crowing every time they had a multiplat game with higher resolution than the same one on PS3... now all of a sudden they don't care? lol fanboys make me laugh... and vomit and the same time.

Yes, 1080p looks nice, and 60fps is really smooth, it's a bonus. Almost all games on PS4 have both, so no complaining here :)

[morganfell]

1080p matters. It is amazing that it suddenly became less of a concern for some. But then again not every console was designed with gaming as the central focus. Backpeddling on policy does not let you backpeddle on hardware design.

@darx

Of course you do not care. All you did last gen was talk up the 360 and how much you enjoyed it and attacked the PS3. You constantly stabbed at the price of the PS3 but ignored the fact the 360 plus seven years of live plus no HDMI on launch models, no wifi ety etc wound up costing far more. At one time you even posted how when MS makes an announcement it is about games. How is that working our for you this gen? In addition you attacked the PS3 for having Bluray that no one wanted. Seems that didn't work out either. Speaking of unwanted hardware, how is Kinect doing it for you?

People should really take a gander at his post history. Start at the end and work forward. You will laugh...not with him...but rather at him.

http://n4g.com/news/16793/o...

http://n4g.com/news/19863/0...

http://n4g.com/news/19642/n...

http://n4g.com/news/20761/m...

[XBLSkull]

Anyone who PC games know that res/fps are just two aspects of a games visuals. There are generally 12-20 different graphical settings you can tweak, and the trick is to find the best balance between all of them. You can't just simplify visual fidelity down to just 2 factors. I guess that is the only things a console gamer every really gets to see, and that is why people seem to care, they just don't see the big picture.

[DevilOgreFish]

"Who Cares About 1080P & 60FPS? I Sure Don’t."

If you own a console it really shouldn't matter. Games on consoles can run at those settings, but so long as the developer chooses to optimize for it. even if a console has an immense amount of power, it's still locked.

You get what you pay for, If you have higher standards then you need something that provides extra freedom for you to impose those standards.

[guitarded77]

@ Ripsta7th

That's a flawed argument. Some games have a retro art style. It's the devs decision to use the art styles they use. Hotline Miami on PS4 will use a retro art style, but it will still be 60FPS and 1080p. Art style is different than performance. Sure, larger resources will mean a hit to performance. It's in those games we'd like to see 60FPS and 1080p most.

[R6ex]

Its already 2014! Full HD TVs and monitors have become the standard resolution at 1080p.

If next-gen consoles can't even push 1080p60fps now, it will be freaking ugly when UHD TVs and 1440p monitors & Oculus Rift becomes more popular after 2014.

For purist, PC is the only way to go. I'm one who has happily switched from consoles to PC. For example, I found playing KOA:R on the PS3 jerky, so I bought another copy of the same game for PC. Hell, was I pleased with the buttery-smooth action and relatively more gorgeous visuals on PC!

Once my 9-year-old HDTV dies, I'll get both the Oculus Rift and a reasonably-priced UHDTV. Guess I'll also need an SLI-PC to power those resolutions. Consoles just don't cut it.

[Kribwalker]

If it mattered that much to you, you woulda just kept your ps3 that could do 6 1080p feeds at 120fps

[Why o why]

Ripsta.........Art Style. Hotline miami isn't retro feeling by accident.

[mark3214uk]

for the ppl that say they cant tell the differance,play the last of us remasted its amazing running at 60fps so fluid

[Why o why]

Lol morganfell....... thats some exposure right there.... He's not alone. Teams of hypocrites now scream morality or that it doesn't matter anymore.....LMAO. ..

[magnes22]

@morganfell wow you nailed it!

this was my favorite---> http://n4g.com/news/19642/n...

[SilentNegotiator]

@Ripsta7th

1) There's a massive difference between technical aspects and art style.
2) Quit pretending like you bought a Ps4.
3) Stop trying to convince yourself and others that indies are the only thing to play on Ps4. Along with this game, which has a retro art style, there are lots of AAA titles.

[SkullBlade169]

At least type the phrase properly...

"Could care less" implies that you actually care about it quite a bit.

[1886afc]

Maybe he typed it like that because he does care?

[ThePope]

It doesn't mean he cares about it quite a bit. It does however means he still has room to care less. Or another way to look at it is he he cares, but just a little.

OT: what I find funny is two things:

First is all the people going on and on (and on n4g on) about how much better multi plats are on PS4 have probably never played them on the X1 and only have comparison videos to tell you that there's a difference. The question is does it really matter that much to you? You know I promise you I've enjoyed the multi plats I've played on my X1 as much as the ones I've played on my PS4 (yes I have both, because I'm a real gamer). So why do people care so much?

The second is (and this really cracks me up) the people shouting give me 1080/60 or nothing, are the same people talking about all the indies the PS4 has. If all you care about is graphics, why in the hell do you care if the PS4 has more indies, their inferior.

[memots]

yes you could.

Here how its supposed to go

"I couldn't care less" meaning you don't care, But since many people including you always type Could , well that mean you actually care about it.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

So you care then..

[Foraoise]

It's not that you "don't care", it's that you prefer the version with the higher quality haha! If they both came in 720p, (and of course, if it were an amazing game) you'd get it. It's not "Oh, 1080p, or no buy", but rather, "I prefer the higher quality one, over the lesser-quality one."

[truefan1]

The main reason 1080p shouldn't matter as much because very few if any can tell what is 1080p unless they are told. Everyone would have assumed Ryse was 1080p if A Crytek didn't say anything, ps4 fans didn't know kzsf was not 1080p in multiplayer until they were told, people thought initial Watch Dogs ps4 gameplay was 1080 when it was really 900p...

I agree we want next gen to push these games, but people are too caught up in numbers they don't understand.

[DigitalRaptor]

If that wasn't just the biggest crock of horse-sh*t I've ever read.

http://i.minus.com/iW998p1o...

You can't expect ignorance to trump fact. Just like you can't expect Xbone performance and numbers to trump PS4. At least you try, it's kinda admirable. Damage control is damage control though.

[Jumper09]

You should get some glasses then.
I can tell easily the difference between 900p and 1080p.
Stop living in denial.

[ziggurcat]

@truefan:

"The main reason 1080p shouldn't matter as much because very few if any can tell what is 1080p unless they are told."

no. people can tell.

and KZ:SF's MP is still a full 1920 x 1080, it's not upscaled.

[MuhammadJA]

1080/60 is the newest fad for this gen. PC gamers had been rocking 1080/60 since 2008. Let the consoles people have a taste of it.

[Clunkyd]

Yet, people who game on consoles don't care about gaming on a PC.
Gaming on a computer is very unappealing to most console gamers, like myself.

[700p]

Only sony fanboys care about that. They act as if 720P games cant look good. UHH MANY GAMES LAST GEN SAID OTHERWISE.

[schnodder]

"last gen" ... exactly.

[darren_poolies]

COULDN'T!!! You COULDN'T care less!

[DeadMansHand]

Morganfell owned you. Your post history is laughable and a joke.

[JDM72092]

I thought the same thing until I played The Last of Us Remastered.

[ramiuk1]

good for you .

i care but then again im gaming on a 106" screen so it matters an awfull lot imo.

i know last gens big hitters was mainly sub720p but this gen should be 1080p res accross board imo as standard the FPS aimed to 60,but shouldnt be dropping to around 20 like a few xbone games have .

[truegamerkt]

Don't you mean couldn't careless?

[Shadowolf]

@darx - Hey buddy I hate to break it to you however, morganfell pretty much exposed you. Based on your last-gen comments it would seem the Xbox One is not next-gen quality base on your logic. So now that the tables have turned, your comment that you could careless about 1080/60 is a bit pathetic. I'm not here to get on your bad side but lets be honest here, 1080/60 absolutely matters. If the Xbox One could spit out 1080/60 games at the same clip as the PS4, no Xbox One user would choose to digress on their gameplay's resolution or frame rate.

[FanboyKilla]

@gaming101 lol you must not have heard that ryse won best real time graphics award. its not even 1080p soooooo. lmfao those xbots got the best looking game so far with the award that goes with it. so jokes on you and anyone that thinks 1080p 60fps defines next gen.

lol my wii u hits 1080p 60fps like butter. no one can look at a screen and tell what res it is. now fps, is a different story. this res thing is only a issue because ps4 was doing 1080p, while xone wasnt. so sony ran with it. thing is, xbox one is fully capable of 1080p, and has achieved it.

at least they didnt lie about it like sony. but you couldnt tell killzone wasnt real 1080p? (multiplayer) they lied to you, and you guys mad at the guy who was upset about being lied to. yes, i know the suit is absurd, but no more so than playstation nation turning the other cheek about it. how many other games arent really 1080p? youll never know. and where the fuk was digital foundry then?

i got a ps4 for games. not 1080p 60fps, thats up to the artist not me. i play games. i love them. more than i dislike a company. i dont dislike any of them, just saying. but i hear you guys talk about companies like they fukd ya girl. you should hate me cause i would totally fuk ya girl.

[Back-to-Back]

If you don't care about 1080/60 you don't understand what you're missing. Those 2 are literally game changers for all games.

[Kidmyst]

Why release a new console if it can't improve on the previous gen graphicly? Going through all the years of consoles you would see graphics nearly double or more most gens. If I put $500 into my PC I see graphical differences, we should with the PS4 and Xbone as well. That's why people care.

[darx]

Morgan is far from nailing it!! I just like to antagonize and stir the pot! I owned all 3 systems last Gen though not this Gen...PC from here on out!

And wow talk about cherry picking!! Somebody needs a life!

[Anon1974]

It's not a deal breaker for me but I'll take it if I can get it.

[achmetha]

i do care about 60fps, but 1080p is just a bonus. 720p60 is my preference at this point.

[Kivespussi]

I just wish I could get 60fps. Resolution doesn't matter as much. The games look great already, just get them to run at 60fps!!!

[Bathyj]

I think it depends on the game. Everyone goes on about 60fps but most games dont need it as long as its a locked 30fps.

A lot of games, even shooters (I dont play online) need a good draw distance and to be able to pick out details.

Say sniper elite for example. I want to be able to pick targets out from a distance, plus I spend 10 minutes creeping around before I take a shot anyway. If I had a choice of 720p60fps or 1080p30fps for that game I would take 1080p.

I dont think framerate is going to be a problem in Driveclub. As long as its smooth then it does what you think its going to. If its 60 but drops you can never really know for sure when to time a move, at least if its locked 30fps to will get the timing right as well as the extra clarity helping to knock where you are in your environment.

Probably the only game I would chose framerate (again assuming its at least 30 locked) over resolution is a fighter since you really do need split second reactions and draw distance and detail dont really matter.

[Vegamyster]

"Everyone goes on about 60fps but most games dont need it as long as its a locked 30fps. "

Many games during the N64/PS1 era and even last gen ran sub 30 fps so technically you don't even need a locked 30 fps but this isn't 95/96 or 05/06. Literally the only games where a higher frame-rate wouldn't made a big difference are games like Heavy Rain, everything else which requires any kind of precision or moving the camera will benefit.

[uth11]

you guys always say that graphics and resolution don't matter as much as 60fps..

But then when Last Of Us Remastered gave us 60fps but had slightly better shadows in 30fps mode, everybody lost their s**t!

[CertifiedGamer]

@uth11 I would rather have my camera moving smoother at 60fps than 30fps with better shadows. Shadows aren't going to make the animation run more fluently.

Lets compare mirrors edge running in 30 fps vs. 60 fps. I can see the difference.

http://30vs60.com/mirrorsed...

[ramiuk1]

if anyone needs to understand the difference between the 2 then they should try last of us on PS4.
turning 60fps off made it so clunky,it was crazy the difference,60fps was so fluid.

[Kivespussi]

@uth11

What do you mean "you guys"?

[Jumper09]

Resolution is as important as a constant locked framerate.

[ZAF]

Depends, on consoles i agree that 60fps must be a priority, on PC 1080p and 60fps is a must since you're a lot closer to the screen. (at least in my case)

[Gamer777]

I have trouble telling apart resolution on my tv; but when I'm close to the monitor, contrast between the different resolution is obvious.

[MRMagoo123]

I would suggest getting a better tv, my tv is only a 40 inch bravia and I can sure as hell tell when a game or movie isnt 1080p.

[uth11]

I can tell a little, but it honestly doesn't make much of a difference at the distance we sit from the TV. It just looks slightly more blurry.

[Darkwatchman]

1080p and 60fps is very nice, BUT i would prefer a game push more polygons, more effects, etc... on screen at a locked 30 fps and 720p-900p resolution instead of a technical downgrade for 60fps and 1080p

[hkgamer]

agreed because everyone else disagreed.

you have a point, but i dont agree 100%.

it is upto the developer to find the right balance for his vision.

[Darkwatchman]

Everyone is all of a sudden an elitist. Prior to the release of the ps3 and xbox 360, we were promised 1080p. Most games that gen ran at 720p, sometimes with framerates dipping below 30 and in a few cases with more graphically intensive games, developers opted for a sub-HD framebuffer. I guess you could argue that 60fps is necessary(even though it isn't), but 1080p really isn't necessary at all. Why would you want lower quality textures at 1080p for example when you could have higher quality textures at 720p or 900p? The actual technical prowess of the game's assets is more important than the resolution. We should only start to complain this gen once games run below 720p for any reason. Now THAT is unacceptable.

[DigitalAnalog]

When ND starts to target 1080p/60fps for this generation, then you know how much of a big deal this issue is. Why wouldn't they stick to 720p/30fps with those details you espouse so dearly when it clearly worked for them last generation?

[_NotoriousJaee]

Everybody should be a graphics whore. It's 2014 bro!!!

[KwietStorm_BLM]

FPS is hardly about being a graphics whore. There's nothing I wish more than for Destiny to be 60fps. It would feel so much better.

[BiggerBoss]

There's no doubt it would feel better at 60, but it does feel fine at 30. As long as it's steady and there's no drops, I'm perfectly fine with it because of how fun it is regardless of frame rate

[_NotoriousJaee]

We should most defitnely be performance whores :D

[Gamer777]

Resolution is not graphics.

[kingduqc]

Crisper image and smoother response help gameplay and increase my enjoyment. I don't see how wanting a better experience is a bad thing.

[chrissx]

60fps > 30fps

[LAWSON72]

Well I would like my competitive FPS above 30 FPS. IMO it was a big flaw in Destiny, after the beta and I went back to BF4 it just felt incredible while when I first started to play Destiny 30 FPS it felt bad. The thing about 60 FPS is that it is demanding and if it wa required for everything this gen would not be very impressive.

[BiggerBoss]

All of the past Halo games were 30 fps, did that make them bad games? I doubt you were complaining about them. 60 fps is better all around, but if a game can't run at it then it just can't run at it and 30 will have to suffice. 30 fps in NO WAY makes destiny a bad game.

[LAWSON72]

I grew up with Halo and it feels natural to me so it does not bother me and throughout last gen I was not spoiled with so many 60 FPS shooters so I did not really feel the choppiness.

For the past year I have been away from Halo and have not really done much competitive gaming because I have no friends on PS3 (only really play JRPGs and on occasion some big exclusive games with a SP focus) and PC so no competitive FPS games though PC spoiled me with 60 FPS.

Then when I got my Xbone in May the only online FPS games I have played are TF and BF which are 60 FPS. When I fired up the Destiny beta it felt choppy and I did not like that. I eventually adapted but I really hated it in the PvP and when that beta ended and I went back to BF it felt natural and smooth (and that FOV) I felt like I was in shooter heaven.

I really do not look forward to when I fire up Destiny next month and have to deal with the rough FPS until I adapt to it and that will happen every time I return to the game. You are right it will not make it a bad game and I did not say it did, but every time I play it I have an obstacle to overcome to enjoy the feel of the game. The more 60 FPS FPS PvP games that release the more and more obscelete it will feel and that will tarnish the presentation of the game and it had that effect on me and my friends, that happened to be in a party with me when they first started, who said it felt strange or off and had to adapt over a period of time.

IMO it is like graphics, say you play a game like MGS for the first time only a few years ago and the visuals looked bad but by time you face Ocelot you just dont notice and just have a damn good time playing a masterpiece. Actually from my experience alot of PS1 games have this problem when you play them for the first time only a couple years ago. It does not make the game bad but it really does effect the games presentation for a gamer with no patience to get past the ugly textures. This is a bit of an over exaggeration but still sort of similar. They are both an obstacle some may have to overcome to enjoy the experience the game offers

[Boody-Bandit]

In console gaming.
Most capable of offering the best of all worlds, PS4.
Have that as the title and let's put this nonsense to rest once and for all.

[Boody-Bandit]

Disagreeing with a fact doesn't make it any less factual.

[LogicStomper]

Well if you really want to know why I disagreed...

Premise 1)
In console gaming, the PS4 is the most capable of offering the best of all worlds.

Premise 2)
Having premise 1 as the title will put this nonsense to rest once and for all.

Premise one is a material failure. You say it is most capable of offering best of all worlds. Well given a plausible situation of wanting to keep games that you receive from being subscribed, the PS4 in fact, does not offer the best. So it is not true that it is the most capable of offering the best of all worlds.

Regarding your second premise, it is also false. Creating one article with a flame-bait headline will not put this nonsense to rest at all. It will only encourage more delusional/biased comments.

That is why I disagreed, because it wan't a fact in the first place.

[hkgamer]

i think finding the right balance between framerate, resolution and graphics is the way to go.

obviously 1080p doesnt mean anything if the game looked horriblle or nothing special

[Metallox]

I just want visually appealing and technically stable games.

[oODEADPOOLOo]

Someone else posted this on another article but it makes more sense here: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Basically says people on console have had no choice on either resolution or fps and accept compromises on either mainly because they've grown accustomed to it, since that's their only option if they want to play a game on console. Better compromise would be to add an options menu like on PC where you can adjust fps and resolution on the fly. Kinda like what TLOU did with fps.

OT: Resolution and fps matter now more then ever that consoles have PC architecture and are claiming to be more powerful. People have higher expectations because technology is advancing. It's not just people trying be an ass and whine about something for nothing. In the words of the Vanu from Planetside 2 "Technology equals Might!" lol. But seriously, Hoping to see game like ACU and farcry 4 reach their target of 1080p at 60fps! I know planetside will so why not other games?

http://planetside2guide.com...

[CaEsAr-]

So following your logic, if you don't care we mustn't too. F*king so called journalism these days man.

[DarXyde]

60 fps and 1080p resolutions are nice, but not necessary.

And if you believe they are, I hope you're prepared to miss out on a lot of games this generation.

[SkullBlade169]

When did consoles ever reach 60fps all the time?

NES, MD/Genesis, PS1, PS2, PS3 etc did all have some games which ran at 60fps, but in all generations many games did not run at a stable high frame rate.

Some games are specifically designed to run at a stable 60fps (F-Zero X on N64 comes to mind) but often will be of a lower visual quality when compared to games which run at lesser frame rates.

It's not really feasible on consoles. Games will continue to become more hardware intensive as graphics quality advances while the consoles are at a standstill hardware wise.

If you want reliable 60fps in ALL games, then you're just going to have to build/buy a PC and upgrade the hardware occasionally.

[RedDeadLB]

Everyone should. There should be visible progress between new generations of consoles. That's not to say that games automatically aren't good if they aren't 1080p/60fps. But to say there isn't a difference between 720p/900p/1080p and 30fps/60fps.. You've got to get your head checked. 60fps, 1080p should be a standard, a rule for this gen. If not.. A mid-range PC can push 60fps in 95% of games @ 1080p and at higher settings than consoles. There's always that.

[_LarZen_]

I care about 1080p and 60fps! Why? Because it makes games look better and play better.

Is it a deal breaker if a game don't run at 1080p at 60fps? Of course not...but it is something that makes the games better so it's of course something I hope every game try to achieve on the consoles.

[Tetsujin]

@_LarZen_

Not sure if you're trolling or you seriously believe that.....

@highStandards

I wouldn't put all the blame on Sony; I'd start with the PC crowd first since 90% of them brag about graphic cards costing more than a new console and how they can 'achieve what consoles can't do" yet play WoW, Crysis, or something off an emulator.

Edit:
After reading the comments below they confirmed what I stated.

[matrixman92]

I would rather have graphics over resolution and frame rate. Ryse being a prime example, that game was absolutely gorgeous....along with infamous second son, another beautiful game

Guess I should add, as long as it is playable lol

[Persian_Immortal]

Yes who cares about 1080p 60fps when we could be playing in 4k 120 fps on PC more and more games are supporting 4K natively and PC monitors in 4K are going down in price very steadily compared to the TV counter parts.

[_LarZen_]

I am a PC gamer and comments like yours is something I see now and then. And it's ridicules! :D

Running new games in 4K is demanding as heck. The money you have to cough up for a 4K gaming experience with decent frame rates at high settings with some tweeks is so much more expensive then these new consoles it's not even comparable.

EDIT: And 4K at 120fps? LOL, on what planet?

[Persian_Immortal]

Well the investment is worth it nonetheless you may have never heard of quadro graphics card(workstation) but those are extremely high level and the Titan Z is more are less bridging the gap its great for game development and animation aswell as gaming. I wasn't speaking on behalf of all PC gamers but on behalf of the enthusiasts and professionals remember there are people who use 3D software applications like Zbrush, Maya, Real Flow, Marvelous designer 3, 3dsmax, Cryengine, Unreal Engine 4 and we like our hardware to be as powerful as possible. Believe it or not some play in 8K although through up scaling and use of multiple monitors so don't be surprised. 4K will become the norm within late 2015 more and more people will be playing in 4K and into 2017 it will be more affordable no one will have to break the bank.

[CertifiedGamer]

Persian_Immortal 8K is cool and everything but your bullshit is beyond next generation PC because you can't find a single 8K monitor or TV anywhere. Go bullshit everyone about your workstation because knowing the fact that you said people own 8K allows me to assume your workstation that you claim to own is also bullshit. 8Ks aren't launching until next year or 2016 so unless you traveled back from the future then you full of shit.

[uth11]

sure if you want to sink over $4000 into a PC and monitor capable of 4K @ 120fps!

No thank you.

[1886afc]

First of all there are no 120mhz uhd monitors, so 120fps would be useless second the titan z nor the 295 X2 will get 60fps with either card at least on max settings.

[nope111]

1080p should be the standard, 60FPS should depend on the game. Some games looks better on 30FPS.

[paddy95]

60fps should be standard. 30 fps is just way too slow. Id rather have the option to lower the resolution to keep the fps at 60 rather than sacrific something that makes the game more responsive and fluid to play.

[Tetsujin]

I'd rather 30 fps so I can enjoy my game(s) without losing my lunch. Outside fighters and the occasional first person shooter 60 FPS is something I (and I'm sure a lot others) can't handle well.

[kantenkopf]

http://30vs60.com/ after seeing the difference, everyone saying 30 fps is still better should get their eyes and brain checked!

[Silly gameAr]

A lot of people don't care, but there's a lot of people that do. Seems like last gen, people cared a lot more. Now all of a sudden, people don't care and if you do, you're a graphics wh*## for caring not a real gamer.

I've never cared, but I can accept that there's people out there that care about these things.

[IndoAssassin]

Maybe if you're prefer to game on your Xbox One you've accepted not gaming at 1080p 60fps. Cool all the power to you.

But I do care. I have every right to criticize and make it known to developers that that is what I want.

Stop telling me that I should just bend over backwards and take it up the ass, because you don't like hearing people complain about it.

[Emanno]

Game-play is more important than resolutions.

[ShaqSoda]

Seems like only hardcore Sony fans. That's all they bring up when comparing their ps4 and Microsoft's Xbox One.

[KakashiHotake]

Once upon a time I would have agreed with this article, but ever since I started gaming on PC and experimented with the video settings the, the authors point couldn't be further from the truth. The resolution and frame rate makes a huge difference in almost any game especially if your playing on larger screens. However gamers need to realize that consoles have a limited cap of power. Even PS4 at it's very best can only do so much, and for more graphically intensive games sometimes sacrifices have to be made to ensure a well balanced video game. I do think gamers take it a little too far but I can certainly understand where their coming from.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

people with hdtvs do

[Peloun]

I love being behind technology - author of this article

[CorndogBurglar]

I think everyone is overlooking the most important thing in this article.

The guy still has a friggin shag carpet. Of course he doesn't care about pushing forward with technology and improving things with the times. He's clearly living in the past.

[Perjoss]

I could not care less about 1080p, I play all my games at 2560x1600.

[Psychotica]

It matters to me because not only do I like to have fun I want to be wow'd by a game. The better the computer hardware I have the more that wow factor goes up.

[MCTJim]

Only thing I have ever cared about in a game is......is the game good and fun. Graphics etc are just a nice plus. I still enjoy Atari VCS games.

[Dogswithguns]

I still liked my PS2 games, but rather play on my LCD tv.. and I still liked my DVD over blu-ray.. but that's just me.

[LazyMinion]

1080/60 is nice but if a game I want to play doesn't hit that mark, I'm not going to let it stop me from playing and enjoying the game.

[masterfox]

I sure do care, the experience is in another whole level in those settings.

[glennhkboy]

1080p & 60 FPS are very critical for people like me, who are still sitting on the fence. Since the price of PS4 & XBOXone are very close now, graphic on cross-platform games is a critical factor for me to decide which one to buy.

[Roccetarius]

People caring about not being stuck in the stone age does, but i'm guessing you wanted to be left behind there.

[Tedakin]

Good graphics aren't completely based on p's and fps's. For some reason people think they are. Pong at 1080p 60fps still looks like Pong.

[mochachino]

I care a lot about 60 FPS, 1080p not so much. Of course 1080p @ 60 FPS would be ideal but given that they're $400 boxes I'd be fine with 900p or even 720p if 60fps was locked in.

Anytime the camera is moving, which is almost all the time, 720p at 60FPS looks a lot less blurry than 1080p at 30 FPS.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Agreed.

[system22]

i think the thing with "next gen" graphics isn't resolution or fps. its more capability of simulating natural phenomenon...caustics, lighting, ray tracing, reflections, ambient occlusion, better physics that lead to dynamically driven elements, better model rigs, better particles and so on. i like my resolution as high as possible, but its all this other stuff that brings the world closer to reality so if it takes a slight hit on resolution i can forgive it. these render processes make things more realistic than a slightly higher resolution... and it certainly takes more math - stuff the last gen consoles weren't doing. if every new generation was only about upping resolution and frames then we should be expecting 8k, 120fps.

one way to think a bout it is the first consoles that started doing proper 3d... I'm specifically thinking of the sega saturn and panzer dragoon. to me it was awesome because it was true 3d. my friend thought the graphics sucked because everything looked blocky (low polygon counts) and stretched (low texture rez)... to me though it was amazing and i realized that while the fidelity of the graphics were somewhat lower than most 2d games before that, it was way more impressive because it was true 3d rendering. its the same now, only the details are just getting smaller and finer. lets not miss the bigger picture here. the true next gen games coming are only going to showcase this even more.

[squeezx]

So throw away all your blu ray hd discs and go back to DVD. The difference is just as discernible on consoles.

[system22]

thats a bs response and you know it. a picture is a picture and the only way to make the fidelity of a picture better is limited to resolution and color depth. the camera doesn't have to calculate poly's in an environment and actors don't need to be rigged and weighted, combating geometry resolution to produce more lifelike animation and facial fidelity.

video games are far more complex because the worlds you interact with aren't photographed, they are rendered in real time. There are 1000s more factors to make the fidelity better and the imagery more lifelike because... unlike a movie - video games aren't real life and need to do a lot more work to look real life with more factors stacked against them.

i never said that i didn't care about resolution. i said i can understand if it takes somewhat of a hit due to far more complex, realistic renders.

if you only bought a ps4 to get more resolution than the ps3 then you should have put that money towards a pc instead as both the x1 and the ps4 are technically weak in comparison. if you have a pc, then you should't care about 1080p anyway because in terms of overall resolution for pc, 1080p is now considered entry level.

[Fanci]

The arguments about 1080p and 60 fps are crap. It's just fan boys flaming. If it's a PlayStation game with 720p there's no complaints. But as soon as it's an Xbox game then suddenly everyone pulls out their microscopes. Sorry but it's true.

[ChristianTheAtheist]

Who cares about what you think about 1080p & 60fps? I sure don't...

[squeezx]

Stop denying it. Xbox fanboys are the only ones who say they don't care about 1080p/60 fps. Those who prefer superior visual quality know that is the best visual experience on consoles is on PS4.

[Sadist3]

Gameplay and AI is all that matters. A crappy game that runs 1080p 60fps is still a crappy game. A awesome game that runs 720p 30fps is still an awesome game. At the end of the day, you play to have fun, not to dissect the pixels.

[Sadist3]

The funny thing is all these people that claim they want the highest resolution and frame rate and talk about how the next gen is all about visual fidelity are the same people that play those indie games that have the same visual fidelity of my Nintendo entertainment system from the 80's. They're called....hypocrites.

[FayZ_]

fps is far more important, but for next gen i'd prefer 900p 60fps, i have tv's bigger than 42 inches and 900p vs 1080p ain't a massive jump as opposed to 720p to 1080p.

[Dehnus]

I care about 60FPS, 1080p ... not so much.

But fluid animation is something we should all wish for over resolution.

[Justoveraveragegamer]

*puts hand up* I do

[quenomamen]

Cool story Gamebrit, feel free to send me any and all flat panel HDTVs, PS3s, Xbox 360s, PS4s X1s, Bluray players & movies you currently own so you can go back to playing PS2 games on a 100lb 26 inch CRT Tv. Ooh and while your at it, throw in any CDs and DVDs so you can go back to cassette tapes and VHS movies. These Hipocrytes are so full of it it's not even funny. Eff is next they gonna go back to horse and buggy cuz they don't care about cars ? Yea get rid of your cell phones as we'll. screw it just go live in Alaska trapping beavers with no electricity.

[DeusEx-Machina]

For PC I strongly care about it.

[Jdoki]

I'm not that bothered really. I game on a decent PC, I have a PS4, XB1 and WiiU. Art direction almost always trumps resolution. However in some games higher frame rate is important - Shooters and racing games are two - but I'd rather have a lower locked fps than an unlocked higher fps.

Resolution... Big whoop. I played Destiny on PS4 and XB1 and the differences were unnoticeable to me during game play. I have no idea what the resolution is for most games in my console collection and I don't care.

[Azzanation]

What many fail to believe is that resolution takes up almost twice the power of the system hardware to perform. In actual fact a game running at 720p will look better because Devs have more power to play with rather then focus on pixel counts. Reason why Ryse won SIGG awards for best visuals. They pushed more by going down to 900p.

[bauer007]

It isn't necessarily about playing in 1080/60 its about getting the most out of your money. PC is way ahead of current gen and current gen has only been out since November so people care because it was expected 1080/60 would be the standard not the height of this generation.

[Guwapo77]

Played TLOU RM on 1080p/30fps for all of about 30 seconds and quickly switched it back to 60fps.

1080p/60fps best
720p/60fps better
1080p/30fps good.

[schnodder]

graphics matter as much as gameplay to me. 60fps is more pleasing for the eyes and you can notice more details with 1080p.

if some people don't care i'm ok with it ... but with a next gen console i want better grahics and smoother gameplay.

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

Nintendo doesn't make all their games run at 60fps for nothing even when they have weaker hardware they still aim for 60fps. To me 60fps adds a level of realism instead of just playing a movie at 30fps.

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

Resolution is a whole other story. I don't want to play a crappy looking game (aka The Amazing Spider-Man 2) when they could lower the resolution a bit and make the graphics look better than ps2 games. Indie games I'm fine with 1080p because they aim for the classic look but a triple a game running in 1080p and it looks like crap, than why did they push the resolution in the first place.

[saber00005]

1080P is a must if you're playing on a 30" or bigger. Your going to notice a HUGE difference.......... Fanboys just don't seem to realize this, and they ignore their facts, change them to what they thing is right, then cry. I'm a console and PC gamer. This constant fanboy crying is getting old.. :l

[jjb1981]

For PC games now it's a must. For consoles it works and doesn't take away from the gameplay.

[MookaTek]

I think this constant bickering over resolution and FPS is just a sign that this new generation is really not that impressive.

I've been gaming almost daily for nearly 28 years, and I remember the shock of jumping from 8 bits to 16 bits. I couldn't believe my eyes the first time I saw the background of game move independently from the foreground. I didn't think it could get any better (granted, I wasn't even a teenager yet). Then the N64 came out. I played Super Mario 64 for the first time at a Toys 'R' Us and actually argued with people that games could not ever look any better than Mario 64 (this time I was a teenager, but a stupid, awe-struck one).

In time, I played the Gamecube and the PS2 and was mildly impressed, but not overwhelmed. However, the improvements over the previous generation were definitely noticeable, if not as much as I would have liked. Then I played Morrowind on the Xbox and was suitably awed. Then a few years later I played Oblivion and the first Dead Rising on an Xbox 360 on an old-school SD TV, not knowing anything about HD (way beyond my pay grade), but even so, I was nearly as awed as I was back during the SNES-N64 transition.

Now... Well from this current generation I own a Wii U and an Xbox One and I don't really feel like graphically games have advanced that much. Yes, I don't own a PS4, but something tells me that graphically I wouldn't exactly be shocked by what I was seeing. I recently started gaming on PC, but my PC can barely handle Path of Exile on medium settings, so I can't exactly join the so-called Master Race.

I should probably elaborate at this point that I am the furthest thing from a "graphics whore" (but recently, I have upgraded and I own a 70" 1080p LCD TV), but I can understand the frustration that most are feeling when it comes to this newest generation. The graphics aren't much better, AI still often sucks, install and load times still break immersion, and remakes are running amok.

Not to mention ninety percent (rough estimate) of the games that one can play on an Xbox One and a Playstation 4 can also be played on the previous generation of consoles. And even the exclusives, with a few minor alterations, could likely be played on a 360 or PS3. You simply could not play Mario 64 or Pilot Wings 64 on a Super Nintendo. Even bastardized, the games wouldn't have even been remotely the same. In contrast, minus a few zombies for one game and a few textures for another, Dead Rising 3 and Infamous: Second Son likely could have been played on the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3 respectively.

Anyway, I love video games and certainly do not regret my purchases of the Xbox One and the Wii U, nor will I regret my imminent purchase of the PS4, but I can safely say that I am not certain that those that made these systems really had in mind impressing anyone. They were just relying on name-brand recognition and desperation following the longest game console generation of all time and knew we'd all give in. I did, and frankly, I'm looking forward to playing some new games. But, yeah, I wouldn't have minded being "wowed".

[harbie]

I do.

[ATi_Elite]

I only care about 1080p 60fps when i'm gaming on my laptop and even then it's a laptop so I'll downgrade to 900p and wont even care.

but for my main gaming PC's it's all about 4K 60fps or 1600p across 3 screens.

there is gonna come a time when devs try to make more dynamic games and that 1080p 60fps is gonna have to get dropped down.

but if gamers are happy with these "movie like games" with only 2 or 3 simple on screen enemies then fine!!

But I think God of War PS4 is gonna drop that framerate and resolution because of GOW usually has multiple enemies and fast action in a dynamic environment.

[Revengeance]

1080p at the VERY LEAST should be the standard. As for FPS I will always favor 60fps but it's not a big deal to me if a game run at 30fps.