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Is Xbox One Really Beating PlayStation 4?

Microsoft celebrated a major victory in November after NPD announced that Xbox One had sold 1.2 million units.
Curiously, no specific sales figures were provided for PlayStation 4, but Sony was thought to have sold between 750,000 and 800,000 units.

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imt5583416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

I don't see anywhere near that Xbone beating PS4. Xbone outsold PS4 in Nov. IN US ONLY, NOT GLOBALLY. But somebody still think US=World

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XanderZane3416d ago

The Xbox One is not leading in the U.S. or Worldwide. They have cut the gap down some in the U.S. from 1.1 million to around 700K now. The PS4 is still leading in all territory, including the U.K. from what I've read. I still believe the XB1 can reclaim the U.S. & U.K. market over then next 12-24 month, but probably have no chance to do anything big in European countries or Japan. It'll eventually come down to games and the price point Microsoft wants to hold for their systems.

As for the price cuts, there has only been one official price cut from Microsoft, which cut the $500 XB1/Kinect to $450 and the $400 XB1 down to $350 for the holidays Microsoft released a Kinectless XB1 for $400 as a new SKU. This isn't a price cut. This is a new product released at a retail price. Retailers did drop another $25 of the system with gift cards and other promotions which Microsoft had nothing to do with. That's not an official price cut either. That's a sale price. After Jan 3rd the prices are suppose to go back to $400 & $500.

No_Limit3416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

Wow...best post of the thread and totally make too much sense...too bad the disagrees bunnies keep on coming since you said one or two favorable things for XB1. That is the way I am seeing things right now myself.

LOL, another article debating about if NPD = world or not and it made the top of the page, too predictable here these days.

How about we just enjoy games and let the companies continue to compete with each other so we all benefits. LOL, what have gaming become these days when we have jealous gamers hating on another console and pretend they are armchair analysis. Smh

Glad I have all three consoles. True gamers win in the end.

Arnon3415d ago (Edited 3415d ago )

Whether the extra SKU priced at $400 was or was not a price drop depends on whether or not the extra SKU was an intentional release from the get-go. If it was not their intention to release a kinect-less Xbox ONE from the beginning (which logically seems to be the case since Kinect 2 was so heavily marketed in the beginning), then technically releasing another model at a lower price was done to make up for a lack of sales, in which case, this is a price drop of sorts.

As for the unarguable price drop that occurred, to make one within the first year of a release for a new console is a clear indication of a lack of sales and marketshare being produced. This doesn't help their case if one is to state that the price drop is temporary since it implies that they cannot afford an actual price drop, in which case it's unarguable that it was done due to a lack of success on their part.

Now, if it is true that the prices are to go up after the holidays, then we'll see a large reduction in sales (most likely back to where they were), as the only reason we're seeing the current rise is due to a temporary price-cut and the system actually being worth the money in the consumers eyes. There doesn't seem to be a logical reason to assume that the current surge in sales will remain if it was due to a *temporary* price cut.

FromTheAshes3415d ago (Edited 3415d ago )

@No_Limit

Your comments...

"Actually, it is 10 months for PS4 and 2 months for XB1 on Amazon best selling month as the XB1 was also the top console sold in Nobember. Research please. http://www.amazon.com/gp/be... so the two most important months of the year with most sales belongs to XB1."

"Sunset sold well and was greatly supported by xb1 owners as the white bundle is completely out of stock and this is coming from NPD in October...nothing of that nature was said of Driveclub from NPD in Oct, unfortunately. :("

"Not to mention that the XB1 is currently the #1 selling GAME item on Amazon for the entire month for December so far and the PS4 is at #38"

Now you're playing the "I play games not sales!" card here because you can't accept the Xbox One is factually losing WW sales? Interesting. Don't quit your day job.

XanderZane3415d ago

@Arnon
Whatever intentions they have still doesn't make it a price cut, because it's considered a different product that doesn't have the same content of the previous product. If the $500 XB1/Kinect was dropped to $400, that would indeed be a price cut. If Kinect is released for $150 by itself are gamers thinking this is a $350 price cut? lol!! No!! Price cuts are always made to improve sales. Sony did the same thing with the PS3 it's first year. They released mutliple SKU's and then dropped the price on some of those SKU's to help increase sales for the overpriced PS3. Microsoft is doing the same thing. Nintendo has done the same with the Wii U. Whether the price will remain $350 or not is up to Microsoft. With the surge in sales, I can easily see them leaving the $400 XB1 at $350 and maybe raising the XB/Kinect version back to $500 until next years E3. Especially since Microsoft had plans to release the Kinect by itself for $150 anyways.

@No_Limit
Thanks and I agree that True gamers win in the end. I own all 3 systems as well and have a decent PC to play some exclusive PC titles. The only downside to owning all systems is not always having the time to play everything to the end.

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darthv723416d ago

The US does not equal the world. But it does take the combined efforts of the world to surpass the consumer spending on video games in the US.

US = the single largest country for gaming consumers
EU = the largest territory for gaming consumers

China is an untapped market that only recently started letting in gaming from the outside world (legally) so it could potentially eclipse the US as the single largest country for gaming consumers over time.

quenomamen3416d ago

That's cuz we've been brought up to beleive we're the only thing that matters on this earth. Hell Santa Claus an Jeesus are Merican !

jf3sh133415d ago

Actually Santa is Canadian, his address is "North Pole, Canada, H0H 0H0", OT though, the closer the consoles can get to a dead heat, the better it is for us the gamers, so if you have a PS4 you should be happy when XBox one does well, as it forces Sony to innovate to match or excede and vice versa,

Audiggity3416d ago

Wait a second... you are telling me there are other countries other than America? Haha... stop it!

http://suddenworld.com/word...

'MURICA!

reaperofsouls3416d ago

This article states the ps4 shipped 13 million units as of oct 31 but sony infact state they had shippped 13.5 m as of sept 29!

The article also mentions that the xb1 shipped 10 unit but has never been officialy comfirmed as it was stated " soon to ship" without any specfic time frame

nowitzki20043416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

They finally won a month. Let them have their moment. They did a lot to win in the US in Nov.
What is it in the us now. 11 months to 1 for the PS4?

Jaqen_Hghar3416d ago

and that one month with crazy deals=tendency

Fact is if you don't outsell the competition the month of a price cut and with crazy bundles that put the value of the console alone down to around $200 once you subtract all the other stuff out in your STRONGEST territory then that would be pathetic. Like did people really think that Xbox would be outsold doing all that? They basically slashed the price in half lol. They needed a price cut in Europe too but a man guesses they just kinda gave up there already.

N83416d ago

The US thinks the US is the world. I'm an American born and raised by the way. Just speaking from my observation of others.

VforVideogames3415d ago

You are an illegal alien just like Superman.

gangsta_red3416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

Wow, right on queue everyone. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to start with the old last gen sayings when the X1 starts to pick up steam and cuts into the PS4 dominance.

I was really going to go with "play games not sales" quotes, but I placed my bets down on "US is not the world" and by golly gee I was right.

131 agrees and a well said to boot too.

Way to predictable this site.

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TBONEJF3416d ago

You're right bout that. They only beat sony for the month of NOV/DEC due to the holidays and their price cut. I see more XB1 being sold than PS4's and I can tell u that Cause I see it fly off the shelf. but don't worry PS4 will gain it's numbers even higher

kenshiro1003415d ago

Maybe when pigs fly, the XB1 might finally outsell the PS4.

Microsoft made their bed, so they have to lie in it.

Rick_Ross_Boss3415d ago

It's these articles that really show how bias this site is towards Sony. Who cares if one out sold the other? I slightly prefer my ps4 but that don't mean I'm gonna kiss Sony's ass at everything they do. I'm too busy playing games to care about console sales.
Now watch the disagrees flow lol.

zero_gamer3415d ago

US=World's leading gaming market.

geddesmond3415d ago

This is why PS fans rubbed all those sales in X1 fans faces the past year because they act like sales don't matter when they are loosing but once they win 1 battle its sales sales sales sales lol. From January onwards it will be back to Sony domination and all these turtles will have their heads pockeed back into their shells

DLConspiracy3415d ago

Why is everyone saying that. They never said world wide. Only fanboys are saying that or are upset about the Nov reports.

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nicksetzer13416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

"Is Xbox One Really Beating PlayStation 4?"

To answer your question, no. I don't think anyone is arguing that, really it's not even terribly close. However MS surely won novembers NPD, which is what the articles are about.

I feel like this author is making an argument that has no real need to be made. It is obvious PS4 sold more consoles as a whole. Also obvious that winning 1/13 months is hardly a comeback. (as some claim) However both xb1 and PS4 are selling with vigor and have an amazing games lineup and dev support.

Death3416d ago

Well, they also "won" last December. That would be 2/13 months. There was a difference of approx. 1 million units between the two prior to November in North America. They cut that lead in half last month if the reports are true. Depending on how December shakes out, the two could be pretty close to even in North America in just over a year. That's pretty impressive seeing how much Microsoft had to overcome.

There is practically no chance Xbox will beat Playstation globally. We have absolutely no past sales history to support Xbox "winning" globally. Playstation has always had a better received brand worldwide. I don't personally know any Xbox fans making the claim Xbox will outsell Playstation globally, just Playstation fans saying it won't happen.

Blues Cowboy3416d ago

"I don't personally know any Xbox fans making the claim Xbox will outsell Playstation globally, just Playstation fans saying it won't happen."

Was about to write a comment to that effect, but you beat me to it. The entire premise of the article is misinformed - everyone knows that there's a world of difference between starting t pick up pace and suddenly becoming the market leader.

HiddenMission3416d ago

Get your facts right or at the very least rumors right it's stated in the US they closed the gap by 1/3 not in half so stop over exaggerating numbers to beef up MS and down play Sony...

Fanboys geeze

mkis0073416d ago

This claim that xb1 will catch up next year in the US relies on something we havent seen yet.That is ps4 not building a lead of double Nov-Dec sales in the rest of the year.

Ps4 goes up by 1.1 and down by .5 every year you are still looking at an increasing gap.

Death3416d ago

@Hidden,

You really want to argue 200,000 consoles to justify your "ass whoopin"? I agree, fanboys are annoying...

Why o why3416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

"I don't personally know any Xbox fans making the claim Xbox will outsell Playstation globally, just Playstation fans saying it won't happen."

Maybe, just maybe you've missed the glut of ....'tides have changed' comments or the november month being more important than the rest of the months comments I've noticed....yes they are out there... not even saying every x1 fan is culpable so don't get me wrong. All you have to do is look.

Jaqen_Hghar3416d ago

guess you really do see and hear what you want to see and hear. The Xbox fans are being just as unrealistic and unreasonable as Playstation ones in their sales predictions if not more so.

Spotie3416d ago

lmao at Death, reaching back to last year to add another victory on for the XB1. 2/13 doesn't look much better than 1/12.

It would have been impressive if:

a) the lead had actually been cut in half(it hasn't)

b) Microsoft hadn't needed huge discounts/bundles to achieve this.

And that "no Xbox fans" claim is straight up BS. Not only is it present in many articles since the November NPD, bu exactly who do you think is writing articles like this that suggest it in the first place?

It baffles me when I see such asinine comments coming from people with so many bubbles. What's worse is that it's a constant, and thanks to that high bubble count, there's no stopping the spread of what can only be called intentional stupidity.

Death3415d ago

Microsoft has never outsold Sony on a worldwide basis. It's a feat that has not happened. Please shoot me a link to an Xbox fan claiming the Xbox One will dominate, crush, or whoop the PS4's ass on a global scale. There is no historical data to support the claim.

We do have historical data showing the Xbox selling more than Playstation in North America and the UK. It is not unreasonable to think it's possible with the Xbox One.

I haven't seen data for install base in North America and the UK for both consoles. We have rumors that the difference was 1 million. Hidden says 1.2 million. If the 400,000 sales advantage is accurate, the Xbox One cut that lead by 30-40% in November alone. As for the 1/12 or 2/13 fractions are concerned, November and December are the months that see the most sales. If Microsoft is within 600,000-800,000 units away from the PS4, what will a win in December do? If the margin remains the same it will be very close and that is with winning only 3 months since launch.

Personally I don't care who has more sales. My WiiU isn't less fun because it has less sales. My PS4 isn't more fun because it has more sales. Why are some of you getting so upset by the thought of PS4 not "dominating" in every region? It makes you not only seem insecure, it makes it look like you game for the wrong reasons. At the end of the day it is irrelevant who sells the most consoles. The games are what matter and there is no shortage on any console.

Outthink_The_Room3415d ago (Edited 3415d ago )

@Spotie

For as many people that apparently have such a vast knowledge of NPDs, they sure don't watch December closely. If you think the November articles are crazy, wait til December.

From 2007-2012, those 6 years in a row, December has outsold November, by an average of 2:1, every year. Some years, were more than 3:1.

If history is any indication, MS will sell roughly 2.1M and Sony will sell 1.4M. So at those levels, XB1 will not only close the gap, but could potentially have outsold PS4 in the US.

MS needs to get more aggressive in other countries to make up the gap worldwide. MS has their work cut out for them, but to say that these articles and comments are "asinine" isn't accurate.

It's amazing how everyone calls November "the big month", when in fact, December has almost put up numbers twice that of November for years on end.

You're saying people are running away with these articles, without realizing how MASSIVE December is.

SmielmaN3415d ago (Edited 3415d ago )

Death: "personally I don't care about sales"

LMAO!
You have been using all your alt account inflated bubbles to argue a sales slant for Xbox, get proven to be trolling for Xbox by giving BS info, go back on it and try another BS slant, get called out on that, and hen finally try to say sales don't matter to you. Lol. Man, your a sad and pathetic troll. Do you seriously unplug your Xbox and cuddle it as you go to sleep? Are you 10 years old? One things for sure, your one of the biggest trolls and attempted stealth trolls on this site. You are the reason we have trolls on this site because they see all your alt account bubbles you've given yourself and other guys think they can spew the same tripe as you except they get their bubbles taken because they aren't complete losers who make a bunch of accounts to keep themselves high on bubbles. Then when your getting really pummeled on here you start saying your a Playstation gamer and try to play nice until your inner troll can't take it anymore and you are compelled to troll. Your a joke.

Hey admins, how does a guy with roughly 9:1 disagree to agree ratio on every comment she makes get that many bubbles? According to the site FAQ about these bubbles it's supposed to go by disagrees and votes? Hmmm, doesn't that seem like there may be some issue with a user who's comments getting disagreed so hard but allowed to troll so often?

OT: good job MS. They won on their home field at a heavy cost. Can't say I will be using one as I have a wii u and ps4 that take care of my gaming needs.

Death3415d ago

I will debate sales. That doesn't mean I care about sales. I own just about every platform including Dreamcast, Jaguar, 3do, and Saturn which seen relatively low sales. I've also owned all the Playstation consoles which have seen relatively high sales. Hardware sales do not make games better. If anything I have seen consoles with low sales try to do more on the software side to try and increase sales. Need can be a very powerful motivator.

Bubbles...
Truthfully my best guess is I am ignored by enough people that my bubble count is artificially high. I make a conscious effort to not come off as a douche which makes a big difference too. I don't see many people lose bubble because people simply disagree with them. It seems to be closer linked to how you treat others. If you re-read your comment you can probably figure out why you are down to two. There's a lot to be said for the saying "you get more with a teaspoon of sugar than a pound of salt". It seems to apply here. You should give it a try.

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OC_MurphysLaw3416d ago

Does this really matter? Are both selling well? Are both getting new games from both 1st party and 3rd party studios? Yes? Ok then again...why do we care if one is "better" sales wise?

G20WLY3416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

Why do you care why some people care?

OC_MurphysLaw3416d ago

Because this crap fills the pages of N4G and turns what could be a great site for game news into more often then not a giant fanboy flame war.

G20WLY3416d ago (Edited 3416d ago )

^Provoking debate in such articles raises the 'heat', thus generating both hits and revenue for N4G and further interest from other N4G members.

You're feeding your own frustration.

Gamble203416d ago

I agree people care too much. But it isn't meaningless. The system with the largest install base almost always get preferential treatment by developers, and in Sonys case the entire future of the company is largely dependent on it. The current generation is unique in that MS has been willing to spend hundreds of millions to keep developers mostly neutral, but larger sales gaps make that more expensive to accomplish and thus less attractive for MS shareholders.

So yes sales do matter and it is something fans should pay attention to. But both consoles will be fine over the long haul so the sensitive reactions are just a little overreaction.

Outthink_The_Room3415d ago

That's not correct this generation.

If DX12 is as revolutionary as advertised, then PC and XB1 would be the preferred platforms, while PS4 gets the ports.

Being able to port over from PC to XB1 with almost no loss of dev time, means the focus would be on both of them, simultaneously.

Right now it's different, since a unified pipeline isn't as functional as what may potentially come.

But next year when more and more companies move to DX12, the approach to pipelines will be significantly different if DX12 works the way it's been advertised. Even if PS4 has more sales, you're looking at the console getting ports, not being the lead and porting to two other platforms.

Outthink_The_Room3415d ago

The fact you have a ratio of 1:4 on Agrees and Disagrees is ridiculous.

It's not about gaming to some people. It's trying to justify a purchase and hoping they made the right decision, as to not make them look stupid.

I've yet to understand how "gamers" don't want to own every console.

What person intentionally limits the amount of games they could play? There is absolutely nothing noble about playing less games. Nothing. At. All.

SamPao3415d ago

Maybe because they have a timelimit? Maybe because of money
Im also no longer playing on PC. So? Maybe I don't want to play every game?

Wow...

Outthink_The_Room3415d ago (Edited 3415d ago )

@Ultr

So suddenly, everyone who fanboys only has a limited time to play games?

That's quite unbelievable seeing how many games people on forums are buying, when their time is limited, wouldn't you say?

Lack of money means it's financial fanboyism. Fanboys have to hope their choice was correct, to justify the inability to not own everything and cover all bases. So my statement still stands, justifying a purchase.

If you COULD afford to play more games and have the time to do it, then again, there is nothing noble about limiting yourself.

Mr_Luke3416d ago

Xbox is beating PS4? In which planet? Beacause here on earth, clearly, it's not.

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