Xbox One with 6 AAA games (including Halo MCC & Alien Isolation) only £349.99 - massive bundle alert

Dealspwn writes: "Wow. You can now get an Xbox One with the Halo Master Chief Collection, Alien Isolation, Wolfenstein, Forza 5 GOTY, Murdered: Soul Suspect, Call Of Duty: Ghosts for just £349.99."

[qwerty676]

holy crap.

[Wikkid666]

Holy crap... indeed!

[Webbyy]

Wow!. that is insane for real..my goodness.

[Mr Pumblechook]

No wonder XBO has had great Black Friday sales in the UK, those games new are almost the value of the console!

[Griever]

MS has gone mad. They really do not care about making money at this point. This has turned in to a war of attrition where they do not care about sacrifices and losses and just want to win at all costs. This is just plain dumping and should be investigated under the US Antitrust Law for unfair business practices. They cannot compete legitimately so they are out-pricing the competition. 6 games alone are worth at least $300 dollars!

[Concertoine]

@Griever

Did MS make this bundle?

[Killz4Twinkies]

@ Griever

Besides being a troll and it being in Euros so i am assuming that it doesn't violate US antitrust laws. First of all most of those games outside of Halo MCC can be found for $20 or less as well as Halo for $40.

Second it is a great thing when the competition lowers their price as we've seen lately Sony is starting to offer some pretty sick bundles for $349-$400 with multiple games

In the end gamers win

[hello12]

Killtwinkies@ Its actually is the pound symbol! I use Euros that not the symbol for Euros

If it was Euros that would be an insane deal. 349 pounds is near enough 440 Euros. Plus you need a voucher to get the deal.

I paid 500 Euros for the x box 1 at launch that was with kinect and Fifa 14 digital.

[Foehammer]

Funniest part of all the troll comments on this article:

http://n4g.com/news/1640286...

The same site has the PS4 for the same price with 4 games

Dat desperation

[badz149]

I think they are calling this bundle as "look we have so much money we don't care as long as you buy the Xbox ONE NOW!!" bundle

or "we want to win UK as quickly as we can" bundle

or something along that line.

[NuggetsOfGod]

Its good for gamers.

Wonder some people hate it?

[badz149]

eh...I don't hate it but I do think this is kinda bullish from MS camp. it's like they know they have deep pocket and is on their way to "buy" the market instead of "earning" it.

[Killz4Twinkies]

I am lucky enough to own both systems but prefer my PS4 to my XB1. One of the reasons i became such a Sony fan is when Xbox 360 beating PS3 pretty bad in the beginning of the last console cycle - Sony implemented similar tactics leading me to buy a PS3 for much cheaper than it had been and falling in love with Sony 1st party & PS Plus.

But lets not act like MS is the first one to give a way an electronic to gain market share with the hope that software/xbox live sales will makeup for the zero/lost revenue up front.

[SPAM-FRITTER-123]

Shopto are the ones selling this bundle NOT MS, Think about it.

[DonFreezer]

No matter how much lower the Xbox One price will fall the PS4 will always lead because Sony has made people so delusional that not even giving the console free would move it. Microsoft shouldn't have lowered the price since I thought thatthe One was better than the PS4 even without the price cut and it's games prove that.

[hades07]

MS needs to spend money to make money. Take a loss on consoles now to get them into consumers hands. If not it would be outsold by PS4 so much that they would lose 3rd party support and less consoles purchased in the future.

[poor_cus_of_games]

Its not euros it's British sterling.

[geddesmond]

Holy crap is right. What the hell is MS doing. Do they not want to make any money or something. Is UK and the US really that important? I ain't complaining though. MS keep up the deals and catch up to Sony so Sony can start giving us deals. I'm really tired of having to fork out 70-75 euros per game.

[SPAM-FRITTER-123]

1. Shopto bought the console from MS and the games from the Devs.

2. Stopto are then selling it at their own price.

*******THIS IS NOT MICROSOFT'S PRICES******

Stop saying MS are losing money just to hurt Sony or breaking any laws.

Shopto now own that console and games and can sell it for what ever price they like.

[quiddd]

They really don't care about losing money

[mhunterjr]

Well they make their money from software and service sales...they can't sell software or services of people don't buy the hardware.

Their experiment in launching a console without a loss has been unsuccessful so they've reverted back to the model that has prevailed in this industry for the last 30 years... hardware as a loss leader...

Surely they plan to make money in the long run.

[ninsigma]

Do they really lose money though?? haven't the console and games being given already been bought from the seller?? The money you give to shops don't go to MS because the shop has already paid MS for the product. Unless I'm wrong lol

[Agent_hitman]

I wonder if MS still get profit from that bundle since it includes 6 games.. Feels like they are really desperate to dethrone Sony.

[torchic]

they don't care about profits. it's all about pushing X1s into homes that could've had PS4s.

will be interesting to see Microsoft's FY15 Q2/Q3 earnings report.

also where do Microsoft go from here? they don't have a great 2015 game line-up and X1 will go back to the original price. will it be like Wii U, as in only selling well during holiday seasons? it'll be interesting to watch!

[StrawberryDiesel420]

Agree, even though the PS4 has a huge lead there are still a ton of gamers who have yet to upgrade to a next gen console, this war is far from over. However, PS4 will surely see a huge surge in hardware between January and March with games like The Order and Bloodborne dropping while Xbone has nothing significant to match those games.

[christocolus]

@torchic

Why is everyone all of a sudden concerned about MS financial report. Lmao. I'm gonna bet it will be great and healthy as usual. So don't bother. This is a competition and if sony was in MS position with access to the kind of funds they have they would be doing the same thing MS is doing. This is a great bundle to get fans to invest in the console and i bet it will sell out before christmas and what you talking about a ba 2015 line up? Screamride, Ori, Fable legends, Quantum Break, Halo5 and Tombraider and you call that a bad lineup? Or are you joking?Also remember Phil said they had some unannounced titles for 2015.no matter what you think, that lineup is far from bad. Its very good and I hope MS is ready to keep investing big into the xbox one cos next year will be a very interesting one.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

^ "Leave MS alone!"

[torchic]

@christocolus

I just thought it would be interesting to see how much money the Xbox division had to throw at these holiday promotions. so that's why I want to see the quarter financials report. of course MSFT will post huge profits and all but I want to see the Xbox division numbers. that's pretty obvious.

and I didn't say that the Xbox One 2015 line up was bad, just "not great", especially compared to that of PS4. it's decent, good at best, but not what I would call "great"

[Unarmed_Civilian]

Cutting the price to 350$ they are loosing money on every unit sold, so imagine how many $ is lost with these 6 game bundle.

They basicly lost money on each unit sold since pricecut.

[Griever]

They lost more than $60 million in November in US alone when they sold 1.2 million units at the discounted price. If we consider all the Xbox One sales since the discount, the gift cards, the vouchers and all the free games it would to amount to hundreds of millions of dollars of losses worldwide just for this holiday season!

[fermcr]

According to rumours the X1/PS4 cost almost $400 to manufacture... a year and a half ago.
Don't you think it's much cheaper to manufacture those consoles by now? At this moment they are probably lesser then $300 to manufacture.

[Death]

Do you have any shred of proof that Microsoft has lost a nickel with any unit sold? We are talking a $50 reduction after a year.

As for the games, they are all between $19.99 and $39.99 on Amazon now. It's about $150 worth of games at retail. You are getting all 6 games for about $70 (The deal is $399 without a coupon code). It's a great deal for sure, but hardly Microsoft giving them away since this is a limited retail promotion, not a console bundle. It's amazing that you can look at a promotion from Rakuten and say Microsoft is doing it.

[Griever]

@Death

Do you have any proof that they havent?? Because according to the most recent report, the Xbox One is manufactured at $400. The burden of proof lies on you to prove that the manufacturing cost has decreased. Some common sense and a little accounting knowledge is enough to estimate if a business is incurring a loss or not. It is just the first year of the console. A new product has fixed costs and variable costs. The fixed costs include the R&D costs for researching, developing and launching the product. The variable costs include the routine costs involved in manufacturing, distribution and marketing of the product. The company's first concern with the launching of a new product is to recover the fixed costs along with the routine variable costs. They will break even and truly earn a profit only when they recover the R&D costs spent over the years on developing the product. Here is the formula,

Fixed Costs/Price - Variable Costs = Breakeven Point in Units

They have to sell a certain number of units at profit to break even and finally earn profit. As a result, no company can afford to drop the price of the product within the first year. A company that drops the price in first year and sacrifices its profit will not be able to recover the fixed costs and break-even so they will not be able to make a profit. You have to sell the unit at significant profit to recover the fixed costs and then continue to reap the profits after a couple of years of launching the product. Yes, they can earn profits from software and digital services but are they enough to cover all the costs and then leave some profit?

EDIT: I wold love to give you my thoughts on those reports, Death. First of all, you need to understand is that "revenue" does means "profit." The formula for calculating profit is as under

Revenue - Cost = Profit

The revenue increased by 34% to $1.7 billion but the cost increased by 72% to $2.1 billion! Now do the math for calculating a profit.

Profit = $1.7 billion - $2.1 billion = -$400 million loss

Do you see a profit there? Is it clear now? This is just one quarter. I did not bother looking at the other.
As for that link for the bundle. One bundle is not the issue here. It is the overall business strategy and practice. Bundles and promotions are a part of the holiday season but what MS is doing is a wider strategy of outpricing the competition and MS is known to do that. Remember how they were fined for unfair business practices in the browser market in the EU? Do you see Sony implementing a holiday price cut on PS4? Offering two free games of your choice? That is what I am talking about. You cannot sell the product at a extraordinary heavy loss in order run your competitor out of business or beat him and then recover the money later by monopolizing the market and charging whatever you want. That is dumping and an unfair business practice.

[Death]

The burden of proof is on me? I'm not claiming they are losing money. I would think people making unsubstantiated claims would need proof. Their last financials show them making close to a billion in profit in the division followed by half a billion. That doesn't sound like breaking even.

They lost $600 million in November? The hardware alone had revenue of $420 million assuming the average price was $350. The $50 price cut times 1.2 million is $60 million dollars, not $600 million like you claim.

Here are the last 2 quarterly results for the division housing Xbox. Microsoft had $479 million in profit the last quarter alone as you can see on the chart to the right. Let's assume you are correct and Microsoft is losing $50 on each console sold. How much of an impact do you see $60 million having on profits of a half billion? Once again this is assuming as loss is made and they are making no additional profit on games and services.

http://www.microsoft.com/In...

http://www.microsoft.com/In...

You really couldn't be much further off with your billions lost assessment.

By the way, in case you missed it: http://www.rakuten.co.uk/sh... Would love to hear your thoughts on this deal.

[christocolus]

@Death

Thanks for stating facts,providing actual links and using common sense to prove your point unlike some others here. Now the issue and complaints from some gamers in here is that MS is loosing money..lmao. How is that their business? Those complaining don't even own xbox ones. Its funny how they reason. I said this befor and ill say it again. MS didn't become the worlds 2nd richest company by making bad business deceisions. They will do all it takes to keep xbox ones momentum going. This is great for gamers and those who plan to pick up xbox ones in the future and there is nothing wrong with that. Sony would be doing same if they had resources similar to that of MS and I'm willing to bet that MS next financial report will be great once again.no amount of hate will change that. Sadiya nadella has promised to keep pushing and investing in the brand and so far they've done a great job. 2015 will be awesome too.

[Blues Cowboy]

@Death: Well said, well argued, well substantiated. Nice one.

[Concertoine]

Oh my god, is everyone on N4G this ignorant? This isn't MS making the deal, but the retailer. Theyre clearing stock with a big bundle.

MS isn't directly losing squat from this because the retailer already bought the console. They might lose out on some software sales, but how many people were buying Murdered Soul Suspect and COD Ghosts anyway? The only remarkable deals in this bundle are Alien and Halo, everything else can be bought for cheap.

[Kiwi66]

Exactly right but hey according to some ignorant people if it's xbox its because MS set the price even if its an independant retailer and not a decision of said retailer who made the bundle to compete with others for the xmas shopper

[NuggetsOfGod]

http://www.joystiqm/2013/11...

The ps4 cost $381 to make and sold for $400
Gddr5 is probably much more expensive than ddr3.

Maybe Ms is still profiting or breaking even.

Least we see why both console are weak and won't last long.

These companies don't don't want to take big loses anymore.

Xb 360 sold 6mil+ first year.
Xbo sold sold 8mil+ first year.

Yet people Xbox id failing.
If Xbox only sells more than 360 did life time I wouldn't worry about out selling ps4 if I were them.

Just bring games!

[Fishy Fingers]

Cracking bundle. Shame it's not Horizon and Advanced Warfare instead.

[Blues Cowboy]

Now that's true. Don't know if there's much trade value for Ghosts and Forza is a download, but it might be possible to sell them on with Murdered to offset one of those games.

[coreyweb]

holy freakin crap dude.

[DaMonkeyBoy]

this should be called the "desperate bundle"

[Death]

This is a limited retail promotion with a coupon code to get it this low, not Microsoft promotion. How uneducated do people have to be to make these assumptions? Please think before you speak.

[Hoffmann]

Lol..and later they brag that they sold more consoles than their competition again.

Pathetic. Would not even buy that crap for $350 which is a lot less than 350 British Pounds.

[strangeaeon]

This is a fantastic deal for anyone who is on the fence, an absolute no brainer. Hoffman's opinion<Pile of poo. And yes, some opinions are worth far less than others. Would you like the bad MS to exit the console market? Do you people hate on MS because you have no real purpose in life? Stick to threads about things you like and be happy.

[Hoffmann]

Agreed! +1!

Damn...should have disagreed.

To be honest, I really dislike Microsoft because their shitty marketing strategies and all the crap they tried when they revealed the XB1.

[christocolus]

@strangeaeon

Spot on. Bubble up dude.

[spicelicka]

What do you mean lol, Sony bragged about selling more consoles when the PS4 was $100 cheaper than xbox last year.

You do realize it's a business right? The price is probably the biggest part of competition. Wii-U is much less powerful then both XB1 and PS4 yet it's only about $50 cheaper than XB1. So I guess nintendo is also pathetic for having a cheaper product? Maybe Sony should increase the PS4's price to $600, it would give people like you a lot of pride lol. Dumbest logic ever.

[Hoffmann]

And why was the PS4 cheaper? Because no stupid Kinect. Let me quote Microsoft:

Microsoft: Xbox One Will Never Come Without Kinect

I don't like companies which are lying.

[spicelicka]

Ok well if you're gonna be a baby about then go ahead. At that point their strategy was not to release it without kinect, so that's what they announced.

But anyone with common sense knew that kinect was a peripheral and would be detachable, sucks that you couldn't figure it out. I decided at that point that I was only gonna buy the XB1 if they removed the kinect requirement, and I knew it was gonna happen, so I did.

Don't want to defend MS, they screwed up yea, but they're making up for that with a stellar lineup of games, listening to fans, and sucking up losses to offer cheap bundles to consumers. That's what you're supposed to look at. If they screw up in the future you can sell your console by all means.

If i was a moody baby like you and bought the PS4 instead, I would be sitting this whole year unsatisfied with the games, and would be green in envy when halo MCC came out. That's not to say Sony did bad, they have a great lineup next year, I meant for my personal appeal it wouldn't meant nothing.

If you're buying a PS4 because you love Sony exclusives and what not, that's a good reason. But if you're hating on xbox because some butthurt you got last year, that's a dumb reason straight up.

[MrSmallShot]

What's with all this desperate bundle nonsense? It's a brilliant deal, buy it and enjoy it.

[Blues Cowboy]

Yeah, agreed. Microsoft has cut the price and released some great games, why wouldn't they be keen to work with retailers to get their console out there?

[Christopher]

An observation on how far MS is going to get people to buy their product.

[spicelicka]

Yes, no other company wants people to buy their product of course.

[Christopher]

@spicelicka: Yes, that's totally logical.

Sony starts off with a price of $399 for their console. Has a sale a year late for $399 + TLoU + GTAV for Black Friday. They have dominated NPD for 11 months straight and have sold almost twice as many consoles in its first year as MS has.

MS starts off with a price of $499. They remove Kinect to get to $399. They then offer a Black Friday deal of $329 + 2 or three games. Doing as such, MS experiences its first NPD win in a year.

You're telling me that MS was not more desperate for getting people to buy their product? At no point did anyone say that they didn't get the effect they wanted. But, it is fairly obvious how far MS is going just to get people to buy their console. The question is, will they go back to $399, and if so, what then?

[strangeaeon]

So what would you suggest they do, genius? Or did you not actually have a point and want to passively troll?

[uptownsoul]

I dunno…Actually CREATE new gaming experiences instead of trying to BUY marketshare -- Examples: 1) CREATE new games instead of paying to keep them off other platforms… 2) CREATE new games to entice people to your platform instead of subsidizing cheaper and cheaper bundles

As it is now the vast majority of Microsoft owned IP that is out and/or coming out is sequels…Microsoft is CREATING very little in the way of new experiences.

[Death]

So you are saying they should have created Street Fighter 5 like Sony instead of invest in the development of an existing franchise like Tomb Raider? Please tell me what new games Sony has brought to the PS4 to justify sales? Is it Knack or Knack?

Face it, you are upset because Microsoft is selling consoles and you think it's not fair. You are demanding Microsoft do something Sony is not. Microsoft invests more into third party partners than Sony. This is how we see Ryse and Dead Rising on the Xbox One. It's a different approach to content than Sony who competes more with third parties.

[uptownsoul]

@Death -- WRONG!!!!

Sony 1st party NEW IP = Knack, DriveClub…Sony developed and owns The Order & BloodBorne…And thats just the AAA games (who knows how many indie titles Sony owns and developed)…

Not to mention Guerrilla Game's executive producer Angie Smets saying, ""We are working on a new IP, and we started on that already two and a half years ago, but unfortunately we cannot share details yet of the new IP, so you'll have to be a bit more patient on that," ( http://www.polygon.com/2014... - paragraph 3)

Now you give me the list of Xbox owned (and/or 1st party developed) NEW IP (released and/or upcoming)…To my knowledge Microsoft created (owned & developed) very little NEW games on the Xbox One as of now…And there are very few 1st party, NEW IP that Xbox is working on in the near future

[Death]

Project Spark and Kinect Sports Rivals are the only two new retail IP's that I know of that have released. That's two for Microsoft and two for Sony so far this generation. Microsoft has also released Titanfall, Ryse, and Dead Rising as platform exclusives with their third party partners. Now it's your turn to give me a list of Sony's retail third party exclusives. I'll wait patiently for your response.

[uptownsoul]

@Death

First off, you missed the point of my original post (#9.1) about the fact that Microsoft doesn't CREATE new gaming experiences, they try to buy marketshare…Sony actually CREATES way, way, way more NEW gaming experiences than Microsoft…A fact that you inadvertently proved…

So thanks to Microsoft, gaming has turned from actually creating games into a game of "Bidding Wars"…Microsoft, as a result, has sucked a lot of the creativity out of gaming

FYI…As to your actual request for Sony's retail 3rd party exclusives:
The Order is in conjunction with Ready at Dawn Studios (3rd party)
Bloodborne is in conjunction with From Studios (3rd party)
HellBlade is from Ninja Theory (3rd party)
Without Memory is from Dinosaurum Games (3rd party)
Quantic Dream's (3rd party) confirmed game

5 third party exclusives that Sony has partnered up on (but again, not the point of my original post - #9.1)

[Illusive_Man]

Why is everyone so concerned about MS losing money? Neither Sony or MS make a lot on console sales. They make money on services and licensing. Anyway this looks like a retail deal.

[Blues Cowboy]

Yeah, it seems like a weird reaction. On the one hand people (correctly) say that the Xbox One is underpowered compared to the PS4, but by the same token, that makes its margins much higher and easier to cut seeing as Kinect was the thing losing money in the first place. MS are taking a bit of a loss but recoup, historically, through games and services as you say.

And, erm, Windows.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

MS does these incredible deals because they can. Sony is not even close to being as financially secure as MS so u wont see Sony doing this kind of deal no time soon. I do understand that MS needs to move X1 units fast tho if they intend to keep up with Sony.

[Blues Cowboy]

There's also the fact that Sony doesn't need to, seeing as they're sitting pretty on millions of year-one sales and have exclusives on the way. It's selling fine and they don't need to do anything except finally release some of their most anticipated titles.

On the other hand, the Xbox One was a false start after Kinect/TVTVTV/Mattrick's awful brand sabotage. Spencer has put a lot right, and good on him, but they now have to work hard to catch up and that's exactly what they're doing.

[ltachiUchiha]

Its not because MS can or want to do it, its the only way they can compete against sony. Great bargain none the less. I never seen a bundle like this from Sony with the ps3 despite launching a year late and was way more expensive then the 360. One thing for sure MS is definitely getting pressured by share holders and it shows in this bundle. Lets hope MS cuts it again to $299 & force Sony to slash prices aswell. Competition is good but desperation bundles are even better.

[Death]

It really doesn't matter to you that this is not a Microsoft bundle, does it?

[mokkeyrg2]

if you aint got a xbox or parents want a good xmas prezzy id grab that deal asap!!!! bargain!

[corroios]

The real title: buy games and get Xbox One for free. lol.

lets wait a little more. I want a bundle with XBL free for life, everysingle exclusive for free, two pads, external HD and 55 UHD television.

[Lucreto]

Amazing deal,

I kind of make you want to hold off for a better deal since they are getting better and better.

Next it will be buy Halo and get an Xbox One for free.

[snookiegamer]

This deal is Crazy!!!

...Can't wait to open mine Christmas morning ;o)

[HeMan76]

Holy crap I feel my self like an idiot in order to bought only console with a regular price.!

[RosweeSon]

Tempting but no thanks great selection of games but forza 5 and ghosts aren't worth as much now sequels have arrived halo collection is even more value but murdered soul suspect.. Meh! Aliens is really good tho worth a blast and then sell it on and just start wolfenstein but so far so good, still would rather them all on ps4 tho except forza and halo of course as it'll never happen but then halo isn't exactly new and forza will never better gran Turismo but that's just me ;)

[wotta]

If you want a PS4, there is also this with the same code http://www.rakuten.co.uk/sh...

[Death]

What the hell? A PS4 and 4 games for $350 from the same retailer? My god Sony reacted fast to come out with their bundle too. Just 2 minutes ago a bunch of people on n4g said the PS4 sold well enough on it's own and didn't need crazy deals like this. It's incredible how quickly times change.

[Paprika]

While we go "wowwwww" take a step back, this is what Microsoft are doing to sell more consoles than Sony. Sony are not desperate.... still, for us, this is great value. For Microsoft, they can't rely on Christmas bundles forever in the hope don't don't match it.

[battlegrog]

People are absolutely mad to think MS is stepping back because of selling games less. People really dont get it. Steam is making more money then Sony and MS from games.Why ? Because they sell games for less but sell more copies. Its the fact people want games cheaper.Its the same model as netflix,That company visualized mass market for lower. You have more people watching you can sell cheaper.Its the business model everyone is slowly working towards

[mochachino]

How is anyone ever going to pay full price for an xone after the holiday season is over? I can't imagine anyone paying full price for an xone with no game in January or February onwards.

[Predaking77]

Microsoft is practically giving the console for free. Wow, At what cost Microsoft is trying to push the xbone. Well, I guess they has the money to take all that loss but that is not what I would call a successful product.

[ainTgoTTime2bleed]

Dat desperation...o_O