NeoGAF reacts badly to Tekken 7’s Lucky Chloe, Dev reacts badly to NeoGAF

Chief developer and founder of the Tekken series, Katsuhiro Harada, was linked to a NeoGAF thread largely criticizing the design, style, and personality of the newly announced Tekken 7 character Lucky Chloe.

Via twitter, Harada has decided to fight back - saying that Lucky Chloe will no longer feature in the American version of the game.

[nX]

This time, I have to agree with Neogaf... this thing comes straight out of hell.

[Ezz2013]

it just one character in fighting game
don't get what the big deal here ?!

don't play as her ...problem solved

sigh...Most of the time gamers are really complaining for the sake of complaining

[nicksetzer1]

But, if I do that then I can't make a big deal out of nothing and cry about it over the internet.

Didn't you know that we all have to have a hive mind and anything one person doesn't like everyone else has to not like it too... it's impossible to just not use that character, or even not buy the game if you are concerned. You have to make it impossible for others to experience it also by overdramatizing and petitioning online.

[Ezz2013]

@nicksetzer1

Someone need to tell those developers to stop pointing guns at those gamers head to buy their games.

smh...gamers those days, man.

[Killz4Twinkies]

Typically respect about nothing that comes from Gaf -most users think they are entitled to be the voice of the industry.

On a side note what he said does make sense as maybe 5% of gamers post on forums such as gaf when they dont speak for the entire western audience. Most casual gamers probably do like having big chested chicks in skimpy out fits and have no idea what gamergate is or would they care

[breakpad]

ridiculous Neo Gaf ..Harada do your job and release it for EU and Japan , if US are represented by neogaf and they dont want Chloe render Anita for a fighter

[its_JEFF]

@Ezz2013

I'm gonna have to agree with you. Of all weird/bad characters that have been put into video games this is the one that is garnering all this hate...

Also, I understand that Neogaf is a huge community of gamers... but come on. No offense to anyone on Neogaf but about 1/2 the posters there seem to just want to post something that gets them "rep" from other posters. They seem to be just chasing the next "zing" so they'll say anything.

A great deal of them seem to be overly reactionary, "we hate it" "wait, not we love it" "no we hate it again" it's just back and forth. It doesn't happen often but every now and then they'll give a game/dev the benefit of the doubt...

IDK maybe it's not just NeoGaf... it's the internet. It's pretty much the same way everywhere.

[Baka-akaB]

Except it is the internet . Sure gaf got worse , but historically and even still with the misstep and crap sometimes going on there with leakers and others , it was still a better source of gaming intel and news than anything usually posted here

[SilentNegotiator]

Can we stop acting like some people with criticisms on Neogaf did anything wrong and start looking at the fact that this childish developer removed a character because some people on a single site (which he belittled by calling a "small world"...yet was somehow still big enough to take action over) and got all salty (saying that he would give us a "skinhead" character in her place)?

The developer removed the character; not some people on neogaf that didn't like the character.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

I wouldn't say 'gamers' are to blame here. SJWs clearly the 'offended' party. by that I meant them existing is making them offended.

IMO Neogaf is seriously freaking lame. They prove it time and time again. Like a shitty version of 4chan at this point.

[Tzuno]

The problem is that is a waste on character roster, better to play a good character than a retarded one.

[FriedGoat]

Thank god I'm in Europe.

[Burning_Typhoon]

It's not as simple as not playing with her in a fighting game. You can't just do that. If you're going to get good in a fighting game, you have to know the character well enough to beat them in a high level match.

Which... requires picking her.

Anyway, as long as she's unique enough, she should be okay. I still don't like her, but since she's there, I guess I have no choice but to warm up to her... a little.

[ginganinja]

Well, technically, you're agreeing with some of the posters on neogaf. You're disagreeing with some of them too. Because in that thread were several different opinions about the char. both negative and positive - just like here, because, funnily enough, it's a forum and that's what tends to happen.
There was no petition, no gathering of pitchforks, just a selection of people responding to a video game char reveal.

[Qrphe]

Neogaf can go to hell on this one truth be told

[Mankey]

Lol and a bear with boxing gloves doesn't?

[nX]

Did you just hate on a bear with boxing gloves? :D
I just think that she's not only an idiotic cliché but also stupid and annoying as hell, I might even leave the match if someone uses her online.

[NovusTerminus]

Because she's no dumber then Paul's hair right?

[3-4-5]

In life right now........this is literally a non-issue.

[Dubaman]

It is a completely ridiculous idea for a character. I'd rather pick a character which is realistic and serious like Gon the dinosaur, Kuma the Polar bear, Roger the Kangaroo and his son, Roger Jr. Oh and lets not forget Devil and the ingeniously named panda bear character; Panda.
Why can't they just keep giving us the same believable characters we're use to, why change anything. It's clear that modern gamers don't like change or a challenge any more, especially in a series which has been going longer than a majority of modern gamers have been alive.
Obviously the character i choose in a fighting game reflects entirely upon me as a person and a gamer so i won't have the dev's put a gun to my head and force me to play as a woman who chooses to wear a "sexy" cat outfit. My manhood is all i have, it's what defines me as a person and i won't humiliated like this.

Oh /sarcasm

[Acquiescence]

They're tekken the piss with that new character.

[CorndogBurglar]

lol. that was funny. Bubble up.

[Bathyj]

True, but this is tekken it too far.

[Enemy]

I like how GAF starts a fight and then gets offended when a dev has a reply they don't like, just like how they got called out by Druckmann for their ridiculous "Nathan Drake is a mass murderer" BS.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

He kind of is a mass murderer, as are characters like Ellie and Joel.
They murder a lot of people! How many times during Uncharted did you sneak up behind enemies and take them out with no regard for who they are, or open fire before offering peace or trying to work thinags out in a civil matter?
Im glad you don't have to do all that crap though, I'm just saying xD

[elsuperamigo]

Fok those Chinese and their weird tastes, remove if you want here in the west we can decide the destiny of your game,if you dont like it go sell your 500k units only in asia

[johndoe11211]

Yeaaahh soooooooo....... You need mental help. Go visit a shrink IMMIDEATELY.

[hazelamy]

what exactly is the issue people are having with this character anyway?

[Ezz2013]

Big Boobs in tight outfit is too much for gamers as it seems

[Outthink_The_Room]

I don't get it either man.

She basically looks like EVERY OTHER FEMALE FIGHTER. EVER.

Like effin' EVER.

No seriously. EVER!

Anyways, I think it's just gamers wanting to look like the good guys with their political correctness.

[skwidd]

I don't think its about political correctness.. they just don't like a 'furry' (is that what they call them?) character in their Tekken game. They want more 'harcore' fighters. Seems like gamers are getting too serious sometimes but Tekken always had the seriousness mixed with the absurd. I think this character is fine. I don't want more cheesy 'serious' fighter characters, there's enough already in Tekken especially with the new 2 that were shown already.

[Baka-akaB]

One of the two is still some kind of supernatural thingy , as an exorcist , and doesnt exhibit any "real" fighting style .

It's my gripe and one of those of the "moderate" folks not thrilled with Lucky .

Without being rabbid and aggressive as seen in those tweets , some of us do feel the game would benefits more from adding still missing fighting style and martial arts with "normal" characters ... and that namco has stop balancing the goofy and crazy with the serious .

People mention stuff like gon , kuma , kangaroos and dinos (or demons and angels)... and they are right ... however those things were added over time , and in a vast minority in the mix .

[Klonoa-dreamtraveler]

probably cause it looks like they are sucking up to casuals by putting this mainstream whats trending right now character and though it not being the end of the world for having this character they dont want it to be a gateway to starting to make tekken into a joke with putting goofy cutesy vocaloid that is just out of place. personally i think its a stupid character but im not the people starting a angry mob over it or going nuts.

[thricetold]

Better than another generic muscle bound white guy.

[Klonoa-dreamtraveler]

@Thricetold I never said which is better or if that's what I wanted or what race or gender he/she has to be get your head out your a** but instead of saying its better than something start explaining why or how cause how does a vocaloid fit better than a character that actually looks like a fighter.

[thricetold]

What needs to be explained? ANYTHING would be better than another generic character, particularly a muscle bound white guy, PLENTY of them in gaming already.

[Debaitable]

I don't mind the character design and personality but it's just we already have a similar move set with Cristine/Eddy. If they replace then with her fine but there's no need for all three.

[MegaRay]

Her outfit cover too much. This is outrageous

[NukeLassic]

I think part of it comes from the fact that she looks near enough to perfect to a J-Pop Idol, which itself is a trope that some don't like. Pop idol culture is already a teeming mass of conflicting fans, and invoking those tropes in a fighting game character, especially one as generally somber as Tekken, strikes some as a step too far. That's a visual tone thing, though, seeing as this is already a fighting game with androids, kabuki woodcraft robots, and a frickin' bear.

Personally, I think it's silly, but no less so than some of the other faces on the roster. And certainly not enough to have a monstrous thread about it simply because it's not to everyone's taste.

[aerisbueller]

I personally think the character is lame and generic,( and this is coming from someone who likes cutesy girly characters, and catgirls) but 'people' aren't having an issue. As far as I can tell, the dev is pissy about one thread on NeoGaf. I don't blame the gamers complaining at all, you can find at least one thread of naysayers about pretty much anything you can imagine. This is on the dev for reacting immaturely.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

They don't like that she fits a very common, jpn celelb idol paradigm like her character was designed to. Seriously I'm noticing a very xenophobic pattern showing.
"JPN culture? Eww"

[OmegaShen]

Yet its a cute chick using a dance fighting style, how many fight like her? Theres a bear and a tree in Tekken, don't hear anyone crying about it.

I'll use her and post videos of everyone I beat with her.

[Palitera]

It seems like a change of mood for the game, but, hell, it is intended to be. It is an intentionally ridiculous char. What's the deal?
Do you know what will be awesome? If this char is actually weak and become used to troll adversaries through self handicapping. =P

[Clown_Syndr0me]

I'm offended by the topless break dancer dude....Eddie?

Not.

[WheatBread]

I don't like her either, she's annoying, but I wouldn't take her out of the game just because a few nerds at neogaf were pissed. Screw neogaf.

[BABY-JEDI]

Just another day @ GAF. It seems at times the folks there are at terminal war with each other. If you don't like the character then don't play the character. Problem solved. Or you could just request the muscle bound skinhead
LoL

[DemonChicken]

I would like to congratulate GAF for getting the game cut during development for themselves. I mean I see some games from Japan with content cut coming over to the west but getting done while it's still in development is a achievement lol

Sorry just find this amusing, not that I have any problems with the character but it's just funny individuals managed to screw themselves over while in the process ruining it for others. Although then again they probably don't see this as a loss =p

[WeAreLegion]

I'm sorry, but screw these guys. He's creating something. Let him create what he wants to create.

People can cry and moan all day about Radiohead changing their style, but do you really think Thom Yorke cares? No. He's just making what he wants to make.

[skwidd]

Lol. Funny comparing Yorke to Harada san ;)

[lodossrage]

I hate the fact that Harada yielded to these whiners.

If you don't like a character, don't use the character. If you don't like a game, don't play/buy said game.

This is just as bad as people petitioning and whining over the Mass Effect 3 and AC: Unity endings.

The level of entitlement within the gaming world has gotten WAY past the point of being ridiculous now.

And then people complain about why the Japanese don't import more of their games. THIS is a huge part of the reason why.

[Qrphe]

Exactly, gaffers don't play these games anyway, they just post on neogaf all day

[GokuSolosAll]

It's like devs only listen to negativity, SJWs demands, and anything BUT fan's desires for what to put IN a game, or what game to release.

Want FF7 remake? Here's a pirt. Want FFX-3? Here's FFXIII-3 and a book too. Want a horror based RE? Here's a shit ton of action games. Want Earthbound? Here's a clip made by Robot Chicken we made mocking you.

Srsly...

[OUROSMAG]

I will say it again. Kangaroo, Panda bear, Polar bear, TREE STUMP, and you have a problem with this?

The gaming community these days makes my brain hurt. You don't like the character don't play as that character.

#KEEPCHLOE

[Whirlwind_Fanfare_08]

Exactly! i really hate that this character is being removed from the U.S. version, and i'm american. Thanks america for your stupidity!

#KEEPCHLOE

[uth11]

Poor Lucky Chloe's luck has run out

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Neo who?

[CrimsonAzure]

I just hate how this dumb sjw bullshit has infected gaming as of late. It's the creator's decision what he wants to do with the game and it's characters, and he shouldn't have to change or censor it to pander to your sjw bullshit. You're upset he's pandering to a demographic that ISN'T yours, so you ask him to change HIS DESIGN to pander specifically TO yours. That delicious hypocrisy. You sjw Nazis are pissing A LOT of people off.
I hope this movement is squashed in it's infancy and more developers continue this trend of telling you to shove it.
If not, I see a grim future ahead for all developers. One where they have to pander to your EVERY NEED just because the most minute thing stirs your panties. There goes creative freedom.

[kamundo]

Ding ding ding. The SJW crying is having more and more influence, and it's pissing off people who actually play games instead of using them as a staging ground for a political agenda.

[AHall88]

SJW are the reason I don't bother with forums anymore, they're ****ing everywhere now.
Everything they touch turns to shit and I think sane people are starting to get fed up with it.

[madjedi]

Neogaf reacts badly to almost everything, then you have a group of 5 to 10+ users having a pissing contest to see, who can be the most outraged or offended by some perceived slight against said group regardless if real or imagined.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. It doesn't get any more simple an answer than that.

Of course then people couldn't sit there and look down upon others they deem less sophisticated than themselves for not believing in their "rightious" cause as much as they do.

[younglj01]

She seems like an female version Eddy..I don't see the problem here..

[lodossrage]

There is no problem. It's just a bunch of crybabies doing what they do best, crying.

To be fair though, Tekken already has a "female Eddy", Christie.

[ContinuePlay]

We thought that too... But one of our writers insists that he can see significant details in her fighting style that makes her stand out.

[Donnywho]

If Japanese developers start changing things based on what people in my country complain about I mine as well find a new hobby.

[Angerfist]

Everywhere I look I see people with a feminist agenda. It's all over the net.
It makes me sad that a developer gets hate for it. But feminists will fuck everything up till it fits their horrible morality and ethic guidelines.
Hopefully this character comes to Europe.

[Viryu]

If I were the dev, I would remove all characters except for Jack if they kept complaining. Because what else can be more 'Merican than Jack? Also, turn it into an FPS. 'Merica!

[Pintheshadows]

I honestly don't know what is going on at the moment. Everything is offending everyone for some absolutely insane reasons. Humanity is creaking under the weight of idiocy.

It is a character in a fighting game. A fighting game most of the people complaining on NeoGaf likely won't play.

[AHall88]

Let's be honest, NeoGaf likely doesn't play any games, they spend to much time complaining, fighting each other, or demanding social and lgbt justice, lol.

[madjedi]

You expect grown adults to not throw a temper tantrum, because a genre \game that they don't even like has a oddball new character added to it list of odd ass characters.

Not since it became cool to get offended and share your outrage with the entire world.

Some people live for drama and to be offended at something or somebody and attack others to brighten their day\mood.

They don't care about the game or the character, it's all about getting offended so they can get attention and kudos from similar like minded individuals.

The world keeps spinning regardless.

[Kalebninja]

this kind of attitude is why several Japanese companies decide not to release their games in the us. stop complaining over every single thing.

[Talgrath]

Ummm, I think he's kidding guys, it's a joke about how the US only seems to want muscly shaven head military dudes. I'm fairly certain the character will still be available in the US.

[AHall88]

He's clearly trolling at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if there's even an achievement thrown in to poke even more fun at these idiots.

[DVAcme]

I'm amazed how people are making a big stink out of this and they don't say crap about pretty much the entire roster of the Dead Or Live series. Double standard much? Seriously. So Lucky Chloe's a goofy, Japanese-oriented fan-servicey character. WHAT AN AFFRONT TO US PLAYERS, HOW DARE THEY?! It's not like there's over 40 other characters in the roster to choose from and you can just ignore her, right?

I for one think Harada's well within his right to screw us over for being ingrates. The guy's been giving us the best 3D fighting game series for the last 20 years, giving him crap over one character you don't like for a game which hasn't even come out is entitlement of the most shameful order. If you hate the character so much, just play as your favorite character and beat the snot out of her every time she shows up as your opponent online, but don't screw over the rest of us by pissing off the creator of the game, it's stupid and immature.

[LightDiego]

Some people are too sensitive nowadays, great response of the developer but i still hope for the original version here in the West, we can't take all the blame because of some SJW from Neogaf.

[LeCreuset]

I don't see how you reconcile your first and second clauses. Some people are too sensitive? You mean like the dev who makes a living by releasing content for public consumption who hasn't grown a thick enough skin to handle criticism without engaging in collective punishment as a way to teach critics a lesson?

[jmac53]

How about region-lock the entire game and keep it out of NA, please. Thank you.

[JMyers]

This seems to be a big deal for nothing... Just don't play as her... SIMPLE.

[wannabe gamer]

so now neogaf is supposed to make up the entire opinion of a games fanbase in a country...wtf ever

[MilkMan]

What can I say? "Millennials". This is such a non issue, that even these words written here where a waste of life.

[Dubaman]

It is a completely ridiculous idea for a character. I'd rather pick a character which is realistic and serious like Gon the dinosaur, Kuma the Polar bear, Roger the Kangaroo and his son, Roger Jr. Oh and lets not forget Devil and the ingeniously named panda bear character; Panda.
Why can't they just keep giving us the same believable characters we're use to, why change anything. It's clear that modern gamers don't like change or a challenge in a series which has been going longer than a majority of modern gamers have been alive.
Obviously the character i choose in a fighting game reflects entirely upon me as a person and a gamer so i won't have the dev's put a gun to my head and force me to play as a woman who chooses to wear a "sexy" cat outfit. My manhood is all i have, it's what defines me as a person and i won't humiliated like this.

[phoenixwing]

Ridiculous people get ridiculous response and ruin game. Let's first act like they'll take the time to make another character which is in doubt, do you think that character will have a good backstory or design if the whole team didn't want to make it in the first place? The answer is no.
Sarcastic Response: Second, OMG it's a cat girl how terrible seriously you should have put your panties in a twist when they introduced the animal characters but you didn't. I played tekken since the original, which leads me to believe most the people complaining probably are 13 year olds or have the mentality of one.

[cnote00]

As a true tekken fan I just dont like fact that I can't take it serious anymore. It just seem like the game's characters are getting 2 wacky, the gameplay is taking a turn 4 the worst, and the story is just all over the place. If this is really going 2 be the end of the Mishima saga, let it end, then introduce new wacky characters.

[_LarZen_]

Developers need to stop listening to the loudest cry babies on the internet.

[wannabe gamer]

exactly

[Yaay4me]

How about we let the developers do their vision instead of applying the mainstream's standards to every single game? Same thing happened with people complainig about Destiny because some people mistakingly thought it was going to be skyrim in space.

[Knightofelemia]

People seem to forget that there are other games out there with annoying characters in them like Slippy the Toad in Star Fox or Navi in Ocarina of Time. I don't think she is as annoying as that damn toad.

[shadowraiserx]

They are Japanese developers if you dont like it ,use another character or play your stupid casual MK fighter.

[wannabe gamer]

why should one forum be treated like they set the standard for the opinion of all gamers. if you ask me this is BS

[cfc83]

Wouldn't be suprised if it was all a set up to get publicity.