Nathan Drake Fell Through the Earth and Why That’s a Good Sign

Hardcore Gamer: Naughty Dog took a risk and Nathan falling down to earth showed it paid off.

[ValKilmer]

Wow, very well said. I'm glad somebody is being realistic about the situation and that it shows Naughty Dog and Sony are being upfront with us.

[Thatguy-310]

Exactly! That's what I got from it. It's in pre alpha so of course it's not going to be perfect. This just showed that the demo was live and that we can expect to have a more polished game next year. No downgrades here man, it's just heading up from here on out.

[Ezz2013]

I'm very glad that did happen
Now, no one can say this was scripted or not real

[nveenio]

Yeah, when I saw that, I was like, "Whoa, they're doing this live." It was very cool to see.

[G20WLY]

What with all the crap other devs pull, there's always that niggling doubt these days when something looks THAT close to perfection...are they really playing that live..?

So, yeah, like everyone else, I was relieved to see that happen!

Demo was just awesome! Check out this video for brief overviews of some of the amazing new tech many of us would otherwise miss, what with so much happening at once:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Gemmol]

its still downgrade bro, I dont even know why you let the word downgrade bother you. The game still look good, but its clear from in game footage shown at e3 it is a downgrade, yes the alpha footage can get better, but it still a downgrade, get over it.....they have enough time to polish it and who knows maybe it will be better then the e3 in game footage, but come on man stop lying to yourself, even digital foundry and real sony fans can admit its a downgrade.....but remember the game still look good and the gameplay looks good....I bet you ignore the words I wrote and focus on me calling it a downgrade lol

[Dee_91]

any links to the video of drake falling through the floor?

edit nvm

[Eonjay]

@Gemmol

This is the first time game play has been shown. So it's not a downgrade. No other game is expected to have cut scenes on par with game play so this whole discussion is facetious. Image for example that someone were to take the Rise of the Tomb Raider teaser and use that to call the eventual game play footage a downgrade.

A downgrade from what? Surely not game play.

[Bansai]

Soon, glitches will be on every video, cuuz it's more legit xD

wtf is wrong with you people

[tekksin]

banzaii it's not a glitch. the player messed up and fell. The transparency we're talking about is Naughty Dog willing to risk playing a live version of their game for us, in the face of pre-recorded footage.

Kinda like a musical talent. They can lip sync (pre render), they can record their song by singing it when nobody is around on the stage environment where they plan to perform (showing pre recorded gameplay), or they can just sing (play it on the spot). Naughty Dog chose to play it on the spot, and that says a lot more about them and their product than some douche on stage pretending to play a game in its most perfectly script scenario.

[Tzuno]

Dude they tested the market to see reactions , now they need to put their asses harder at work and do more.

[Gemmol]

@Eonjay

Stop making up words like cut scenes

go google any article from around e3 and you will see ND never said it was a cut scene, they said it was in game footage of what the game would look like......you and every other sony fan in here keep twisting there words....for what I do not understand....they specifically said what it is....they never said cut scene or any other stuff yall make up.....please stop it.....and like I said above......it still look good and I cant wait to see how it improve

[Relientk77]

I'm glad atleast some companies and developers are being honest with the gamers

[miyamoto]

If this was intentional.... that kudos to ND!

Again ND raising the bar.....of honesty!

I hope this becomes the new trend in gaming.

ND is pure class act like Uncharted 2 E3 demo they made me a believer in the relevance of video games yet again.

[All_Consoles]

The last of us took a downgrade in graphics and AI after the live gameplay demo

Uncharted 3 took a graphics downgrade after E3

We shall see how honest they actually are in due time

[Ezz2013]

@Relientk77

True

[MasterCornholio]

What I got was, ITS NOT PRERENDERED B!TCH.

I'm glad that they didn't pull off any BS with the demo.

[ion666]

and finally what i've been asking for since socom 1 ........Strap's. straps for guns. It makes it way more believable. After this game it will be a standard. I'm looking at you metal gear.

[Godz Kastro]

The graphics alone was enough to prove it isn't prerendered.

Too many bugs in current Gen games to even play around. That was silly if done on purpose.

[MasterCornholio]

"Too many bugs in current Gen games to even play around. That was silly if done on purpose."

The games coming out in a year.

What did you expect a bug free pre alpha?

And then you claim that NaughtyDog programmed the bug into the game.

Your comments are getting really crazy.

What happened was that NaughtyDog played a demo of an extremely early build of the game. While playing the demo they ran into a bug. That's it.

The demo wasnt prerendered or anything it was realtime. With an actual human being with a PS4 controller in their hand playing the game.

I know you can't accept that but its true.

@Angel

"Unless of course, they scripted the bug to convince people it was real,"

Some people like Kastro are claiming that.

:I

[Angeljuice]

Unless of course, they scripted the bug to convince people it was real, /s

[Bathyj]

Thats diabolical.

[Braid]

I can bet that's not the case here.

The gameplay video looks great, but there was nothing that I could see of which screamed CGI in terms of graphics, so no one would ever think about shouting "it was CGI" after the show anyway. Besides, the gameplay section here (understandably) has a lower LOD than the initial reveal trailer (with LOD getting enhanced dramatically in close-up cutscenes, which looked just as good as the first trailer in terms of character details) and that alone would convince people that what they're showing here is, obviously, real-time. I myself wouldn't need an evidence to back that up, lack of some details in the video (proper oclussion, lighting, soft shadows etc.) obviously suggests that it's NOT finished yet- and if something needs some finishing touches how could it be called "CGI", a term to specifiy the perfect image quality that is indistinguishable from an animated movie?

They didn't have to show any proof at all- gamers are smarter than that. It was just a glitch, or Nathan fell due to getting hit by the bullets, or the demonstrator unintentionally pressed the drop button, and as the skybox's limits were not drawn yet, Nathan fell through it. As simple as that.

[1Victor]

Angeljuice you're right it was scripted I could see the Jedi punching when the guy controlling him was swinging his "light sable"

[Angeljuice]

I would like to point out that I don't for one second believe the premise I suggested (in fact I didn't even think of it, it was the little devil on my shoulder that whispered it in my ear).

I apologise to anyone that didn't realise I was joking (I thought the /s was a big enough clue).

Now it seems some people have taken it to heart. I guess some are just way too eager to jump on any conspiracy theory going (no matter how ludicrous they may be).

[VforVideogames]

So now its ok to sell broken games? whats next sell the game first and the character later? this is getting out of hand first Halo now Uncharted?

[Inzo]

WTF are you on about? to even mention Halo in the same sentence as Uncharted is blasphemes.

[poor_cus_of_games]

What did I miss something? Uncharted isn't even finished yet. Do you honestly think that the demo is the end product?

[Jayszen]

"....sell broken games?" This is a game that is a year away from release. You do realize that don't you? They were just showing us a demo of a game that is far from finished.

[guyman]

Do you anything about game development at all?

My word, there are so many people trolling U4 in this comment section

[tekksin]

V for VG's: breathe water.

[kenshiro100]

....Words cannot explain how ridiculous your comment sounded.

[ChronoJoe]

I assumed it wasn't a bug to be honest. If you look at the footage it looks as if the player simply accidently pressed circle. He didn't, really fall through anything.

The only thing he 'fell through' is one of the planes below used to illustrate the forest floor. It's unlikely that's going to have collision on it in the full release, normally (in Uncharted 2 and 3) the camera just pans away rather than showing drake fall through the floor. So it doesn't seem like a bug, rather they perhaps don't have the death scenes properly implemented yet?

Either way, I never considered it an issue.

[CuddlyREDRUM]

Hopefully the game ships with this happening, that way we know it wasn't all just meaningless.

[assdan]

I get what this guy is saying, and I have to agree with him. Watch dogs is one of the biggest let downs of all time.

[BallsEye]

These bugs are normal and alteast show a running code, ,however I can already see all the n4g news if it would be MS:

"Microsoft humiliates itself"
"Another Epic fail"
"Xbox got it's last nail to the coffin"
"Can MS ever regenerate from constant failures"

[1Victor]

I disagree with you, ball you're just giving free headlines to those idiots making 10 reasons/ways/ whatever article writers to spam N4G with their 12 clicks garbage.
.
.. I just can't wait to platinum this game as all the other 3 uncharted games in my list . I trust ND will deliver another masterpiece and this early demonstration proves it .

[DigitalRaptor]

Wow, so more victim complex bulls**t from you guys?

Stop whining about hypothetical situations. Stop acting like a victim, or you'll look like every single aspect of what Sony does, perpetuates your gross insecurity about Microsoft's consumer perception in this industry.

[Relientk77]

Id rather have a bug in a pre-alpha demo and being shown clear as day, then the final product. Now Naughty Dog has the opportunity and time to fix this before the game releases.

[King-u-mad]

are you referring to him sliding off the ledge or him falling through the map? Falling through the map is highly unlikely to be a bug. It's a pre alpha and there are a lot of systems that are not actively working or even implemented. Sliding off the ledge though... that most likely is a bug.

[Rickgrimes95]

Actually him falling off the ledge wasn't a bug according to the developer he just hit the wrong button instead of climbing he hit the drop button

[Tempest317]

@king-u-mad can you explain why falling through the world is unlikely to be a bug?

[tlougotg]

This isn't nothing new for Sony, prior to Gow3 release, uncharted 2, etc ppl couldn't believe these games and we got live on stage demos and even betas beforehand. Many of Sony first party games get live gameplay showings at shows before launch. Sony shows and proves while others show cgi, prerendered scenes or my favorite...... Live action movies instead of gameplay, then when it's released u like WTF lol

Sony Been doing live gameplay sessions for awhile at shows! Thts why thy get my support, no smoke and mirrors or controlled environment bs with actors lol

[Gazondaily]

Actually not to be that guy (you guys must really hate me now) but Sony (not ND) are actually big culprits in misleading gamers about what they're presented with. From PS 1 to the PS3 with Killzone, Motorstorm and other stuff, they've been quite annoying in misleading people like that.

[ShinMaster]

Still going on about Killzone? Holy crap. That was back in 2005. Almost a decade ago. Before the PS3 even launched and some people still can't let that go.
As usual, there's certain people who remember that stuff the most and it ain't PS fans.

http://youtu.be/JEM98h1nV4M...

[Bathyj]

Not to mention, that was a mistake, not a deliberate attempt to mislead.

"The E3 2005 trailer was not false. One confused Sony rep claimed it was a movie from the game engine - one guy blitzed out of his mind on fatigue, jet-lag and the madness that is E3. One guy not at all affiliated with Guerrilla Games - probably with a head full of 30 different titles," said "EON", a member of Guerrilla Games.

"Everyone else named the E3 2005 video for what it was - a target render of what we thought would be possible on the PS3. Something we would be aiming for. Then, during E3 2007, in front of the majority of the gaming journalist press, we released a trailer of Pre-Alpha code running and demonstrated a playable Killzone 2 that stunned the industry."

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

So one guy that admittedly work for Sony, but had nothing to do with the game was asked a question, gave a wrong answer and the whole internet blew up.

The problem wasnt the trailer, but how it was handled. No one was disappointed with Killzones visuals when it finally released, even if it wasnt a frame for frame match with the target render.

I think ShinMaster is right, nearly a decade, its time to move on for this error.

[remixx116]

Don't worry septic we don't hate you, you've just really been avid with high anger torwards Sony lately. It seems as if you hate them because they wronged you, but I can tell your just trying to break down the bias of Sony fanboy camp and trust me it doesn't work, all it does is get you labeled as a fanboy (even though your not) and pushed off a cliff.

Trust me I try it all the time with the Xboxfanboys, whether it be them posting biased lists of exclusives of MS vs SONY and only naming like 2 or 3 sony exclusives and naming every possible xbox game they can or when they cant take it when sony is doing really well so they use terms like "bankruptcy" to try and justify their opinion that Sony is crap. Trust me bro it never works.

They're just gonna label you a fanboy.

[Inzo]

And yet KZ2 itself looked better than the E3 showing. Misleading? I think not.

[ChronoJoe]

Not really Septic. Yeah Morstorm didn't live up to the obviously CGI trailer, that's quite a bit different then portraying something that's target rendered, as actual gameplay (Ubisoft).

Also, Killzone 2 looks better than the CGI trailer you're referring to. Look for yourself

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
https://www.youtube.com/wat... (7minute mark)

The models and texturing are far better in the actual game, than in the cgi trailer.

[DigitalRaptor]

Septic - I was gonna post a reply about that, but it seems that the finer details of what happened with the Killzone and MotorStorm CG trailers have eluded you for all these years. So yeah you kinda are being "that guy", but not in the same way you think.

The replies have already said it better than I could.

[ion666]

NAUGHTY DOG , There the last of the mohicans as far as quality goes.

[Rimeskeem]

It shows that the gameplay was authentic.

[LamerTamer]

Not really, they could have staged the bug to make you think that.

[Rimeskeem]

It would be really hard and annoying to stage a bug.

[Inception]

Your theory doesn't make sense. If ND can staged the bug than obviously they prefer to staged a flawless demo would they? But the reality none of that happen because they choose to show a real time demo, so deal with it.

[Forn]

Sony has nothing to hide with their games, and it shows. PSX demos really blew me away and got me hella hyped for 2015. So many fantastic and varied experiences coming to PS4 next year. Really wish it was February right about now so I can play The Order in all it's release build glory.

[mediate-this]

The game is in its early stages, no reason for freak outs, i think the demo looks so good, and the openish way to play it was awesome. The indiana jones whip was dope too

[GameDev1]

Bruce straley actually pressed the fall button by mistake, here are the tweets

https://twitter.com/bruce_s...

https://twitter.com/bruce_s...

[OB1Biker]

Cool thanks for info.. Actually when it happened I just thought Drake died but he re spawned in a weird way. More a 'not finished' game than a proper bug.

[fullmetal297]

Using Watch Dogs as an excuse for the Uncharted 4 glitch. Firstly the PC version of the game was purposely downgraded by Ubisoft to keep it looking marginally better than its console counter part. In fact the original assets from the E3 demo was still in the final release and modders just found a way to enable textures agian.

This is not from Watch Dog but from other Ubisoft owned titles as well. Assassin's Creed Unity runs like dog crap because developers never took the time optimize the PC version of the game.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[ziggurcat]

why are there articles about a single bug that occurred during a demonstration of a game that is only in its *pre-alpha* stage??

[DigitalRaptor]

Cuz it's Uncharted 4 brah.

Guaranteed hits in the name of Nathan Drake.

[the_mack_attack3]

I don't get it though. They try to hide how unfinshed games are pre-release. It's not like its the finished product and everyone is gunning for their heads!

[AutoCad]

lol , good spin though..
wish it was like this when they unveiled kinect glitchy ass demo.

[MasterCornholio]

Which demo were you talking about?

Is it the BAM there it is demo by Kudo?

That was a really long time ago and you really shouldnt still be mad over it.

[alb1899]

People here are loaded with excuses because is about SONY we are talking about here!

Jajaja, that was embarrassing and I know that can be fix and everything but no one wants this to happen in a presentation like this one.
The game looks good but not as good as what they show at E3, but is enough for me. It seems that will take some more things of Tomb Raider.
Seriously, Uncharted looks like Tomb Raider men version......wich is not bad but that was my feeling.

[kenshiro100]

Are you high?!

The game isnt even finished.

[MALVAD0]

unfinish vs finish

https://m.youtube.com/watch...

https://m.youtube.com/watch...

[Ra3030]

I think we've all played games after they released the game and we spent $60 for it, happened to me on games on the XB360 all the time. I didn't think anything about it when it happened during the showing of the game if anything we know it was not a cgi trailer where everything is perfect it was true gameplay and it was awesome, like the person said " it's a good sign".

[x_RadicalAura_x]

If that demo was pre-Alpha, I can't even begin to imagine what the final game is going to be/look like. 0_0

[WeirdShroom]

If it was intentional how is it not a ploy to get you to think they are being honest? Sony bros too easy. Hook, line and sinker.

[WitWolfy]

Whats the big deal here? Seemed normal to me.

[Jazzuri]

Comment from another member earlier on...

"Hmmm. the truly intelligent might realize this "bug" was deliberately inserted to make it look like this was real time footage, even though perhaps, it actually wasn't. As Fox Mulder reminds us, Trust No One. Especially not Sony as of late."

And it has its merits...

Greatness awaits maybe but history has a way of repeating itself, just go back in time and you will see a consistent pattern of lies, deceipt and downgrades.

Even so, based on NDs track record thus far, you can bet your bottom dollar this will be a pretty game ....

BUT

you can also rest assured that the massive downgrade compared to the E3 reveal wont be the last before release.

Corrine Yu has already gone on record and done just that...history is repeating.

[OutcastMosquito]

If it was Ubisoft, everyone would freak about it. That's the truth.

[hkgamer]

pretty much. but its a bit of a timing thing.

ubisoft has pissed people off with noticeable(?) downgrades compared to others. deliberate(?) downgrades made on pc watch dogs. etc...

at this moment in time, people want transparency and seeing an early code of game showing by accident that its not perfect was ok.

[Condemnedman]

Can we have some more Sony pandering stories please 😒

[hkgamer]

ok, it had a benefit from having this glitch/unfinished code since it means this was realtime and it looked pretty decent for prealpha build.

but lets not forget, this is a big company showcasing debut gameplay footage of one of the biggest sequel that they have. it was a little unprofessional.

[shadyiswin]

let this happen during a quantum break early play thur vid,this site would be going nuts,but it's sony and sony cant do any wrong,but only this site will go as far to praise it lol. Big deal the game is in an early release state obvious by the graphics that it was real gameplay,was nothing so amazing that it could be called into question if it was live or not,it was obviously real gameplay,so glitches will happen. This article is trying to say we are glad it glitched cause it proved it was real gameplay? sony4g

[DigitalRaptor]

Wow, look at the stream of Xbox fanboys in PlayStation articles crying and acting the victim. Already you and BallsEye. Who's next? It's getting embarrassing at this stage.

Quantum Break looks good, and I haven't heard much criticism from people on this site about the game, other than people calling out the hypocrisy over those that have been criticising The Order: 1886, when Quantum Break has done nothing to prove that it doesn't have the same generic, cinematic third person action foundation from the demos we've seen. I've seen people on N4G say that they aren't interested in QB, and such, but not people flat out bash it. However, I have seen people overhype a demo that doesn't show anything particularly special for it. There have been more people on this site saying that QB is going to "destroy" Uncharted 4 (because that's what they hope), than those actually criticising it from the other angle (because that's what they expect based on a solid track record).

If you are so confident in the games you are showing your insecurity about, then you wouldn't let it bother you enough to mention up baseless hypothetical situations.

[1nsomniac]

Personally I think the glitch was there for a reason. How many times are we told that the hardest parts of these events is making a demo look as if it was actually played live?

For the entire demo the player & also the enemy AI move & position themselves coincidently absolutely perfectly on every single occasion. I thought it was live when I seen that to but I couldn't help but think the whole way through the video that it all just seemed scripted. I mean that's what these videos are all about. We've seen it a million times before so surly adding a glitch in would be the simplest way to fool people.

[Ryuk_2007]

Only on N4G you'll have people celebrate and cheer over a glitch in a demo. lol

[KingPin]

i dont think they celebrating the glitch.
they celebrating the fact that proper gameplay was shown. not some pre-rendered cgi target they aiming for.
killzone 2 debacle comes to mind.

[ginsunuva]

Wow games these days are so unfinished.

Nonexistent preorder cancelled!

[Apocalypze]

Dissidia final fantasy 3 !! For the vita lets make it happen

[andibandit]

Bring out the champagne!

[Claudinho69]

somethings shouldnt even be explained, if youre that stupid its your fault.

[mochachino]

The gameplay looked amazing to me. And if you want to see how much better graphics are now go play a PS3/360 game then go back to your xone/PS4, then you'll appreciate how much better games actually look on these consoles.

[kenwonobi]

Very sound logical theory. It does show us this was actual game footage of early pre alpha Uncharted and not a Watchdogs situation showing something not representative of the final product.