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Hidetaka Miyazaki hopes you'll be kind with Bloodborne's framerate

GameZone: "FromSoftware president Hidetaka Miyazaki is aware of the concerns surrounding the frame rate of his studio's upcoming action-RPG, Bloodborne. In fact, the game director even laughed about it when asked about his thoughts on the speculation that FromSoftware might be settling for 30 frames per second."

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nX3425d ago

Just don't give us another Blighttown... I'm perfectly fine with solid 30fps for this game even though it won't be easy to go back from Dark Souls 2 PC @60fps.

bouzebbal3425d ago (Edited 3425d ago )

even 1fps i will buy this game. what they showed at PSX sold me on this one more than ever.
haters will always find something to criticize, but for me fun comes first.

EDIT: To me fun comes first. if i have to complain about every game then i wouldn't be buying anything.
I buy games based on what they are offering, and today i don't believe a game would go down to 10fps most of the time. On PS3 i play games where it lags a bit by moments, but nothing disturbing.
i remember haters at the time of MGS4 crying about framerate.

Gazondaily3425d ago

"haters will always find something to criticize, but for me fun comes first."

This is true. From resolution, to fps- we've seen haters hate a lot this gen.

If its a solid 30fps, that's great. I won't complain if they don't reach 60fps if the game is fun. I wouldn't go this far though:

"even 1fps i will buy this game"

Although I suspect you were joking here. :)

freshslicepizza3425d ago

playing a game at 1fps is not fun any way you slice it. 30fps is perfectly acceptable, anything below that and it can become noticeable and takes away from the experience. even games that are above 30 frames that fluctuate can be noticeable. id rather have a locked 30 myself than a variable frame rate.

MasterCornholio3425d ago (Edited 3425d ago )

As long as its solid I'm fine with that.

:)

There might be dips but as long as they are not noticeable I dont really care.

@Septic

He finally gets it. I'm so proud of you little buddy.

:)

Gazondaily3425d ago

"He finally gets it. I'm so proud of you little buddy."

I finally get that he's joking? That makes as much sense as this video:

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

MasterCornholio3425d ago (Edited 3425d ago )

@Septic
"From resolution, to fps- we've seen haters hate a lot this gen."

That you understand that it's a general problem and that it isn't limited to a specific fanbase. I'm glad your seeing that somr Xbox fans and some Sony fans are hating on games just because of resolution or framerate.

Anyways have a happy peanut day.

:)

nucky643425d ago

demon souls......dark souls......miyazaki hasn't let me down yet - my copy is already paid for -
BRING IT ON!

Concertoine3425d ago

Honestly the game doesnt look so good graphically that a rocky framerate is acceptable on the PS4.

die_fiend3425d ago

I'm guessing you don't have a PS4, which is why you're saying this nonsense.

The graphics on this game look amazing, name one Xbone game that comes close.

KwietStorm_BLM3425d ago

Why even say that? Its not even the best looking PS4 game. You think no Xbox game comes close? lol

Concertoine3425d ago (Edited 3425d ago )

Im not saying "the game doesnt look so good graphically", im saying "the game doesnt look so good graphically that a rocky framerate is acceptable", people.

Im surprised so many disagreed. Im just saying this shouldnt be a case like dark souls which has a bad framerate (especially at certain points) since the hardware is much more powerful. Like i literally never beat DS2 because i couldnt get past the damn input lag and framerate.

Im not trolling whatsoever, i just demand quality. Right now the xbox one is the only console i DON'T have.

Harold_Finch3425d ago

Don't ever write aything that has a chance of confusing people, you will be labelled a troll.

I amde a guess the other day on a comment that "Uncharted will most likely be 30fps" and about 20 people tried to fight me, they called me a troll and said crap like "don't feed him" and accused me of being an Xbox fanboy that doesn't own a PS4.

HINT: I'm currently playing on my PS4 this very minute on The Last of Us remastered. But that doesn't matter because i'm a Playstation trolling Xbox fanboy lol

All i've learned is that, on the internet, the ID comes first and foremost.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3425d ago (Edited 3425d ago )

30 frames per second is acceptable. As long as the frame rate doesn't dip below that. Second Son is 30fps and it runs smooth as butter.

gangsta_red3425d ago

http://n4g.com/news/1610902...

I don't know, first this guy says that it's 30fps because it's best for action games, then he comes out and says it's due to technical limitations.

I find it interesting that he's getting a pass and not getting called out like AC:Unity did, when they also said that technical limitations were the cause of their problems.

Games need to be judged on how they play, I bet if this game would have released without anyone knowing, no one would have noticed or cared.

ziggurcat3425d ago

"I find it interesting that he's getting a pass and not getting called out like AC:Unity did, when they also said that technical limitations were the cause of their problems."

... and when they reduced the crowds in order to increase frame rate (because that was part of their argument as it related to the CPU bottle neck), it did absolutely nothing. so... they lied, and their "technical limitations" were nothing more than the avoiding of "debates and stuff" as they originally stated.

and i don't recall anyone here yelling about bloodborne not being 60fps to begin with, so where's this so-called "free pass" you allege that everyone's giving him?

ubisoft also got flack because they completely botched the game, not because it happened to be 30fps. i don't think anyone cares that AC: Unity isn't 60fps.

so you can stop trolling by insinuating that people suddenly think something is okay just because it's on a sony platform.

gangsta_red3425d ago (Edited 3425d ago )

"...and i don't recall anyone here yelling about bloodborne not being 60fps to begin with.."

Lol! wouldn't that qualify as a "Free pass"...

But I disagree, if you would click on my link above you would see a lot of people disagreeing with the statement of 30fps is best for action games.

It's obvious that there are technical limitations for these systems, even on the more powerful one and that either resolution or framerate must be sacrificed.

"so you can stop trolling by insinuating that people suddenly think something is okay just because it's on a sony platform."

Hey, I never said that or even insinuated it but it's pretty obvious from YOU mentioning this that this is exactly what it means. You pretty much proved my points so I guess I should thank you.

What I was truly insinuating is that people need to stop jumping to conclusions and getting ready to riot when a dev says that they had to make cuts in order to achieve what they wanted for gameplay. I was also insinuating that people need to judge a game on it's gameplay and how fun it is and if gameplay suffered because the FPS was to low then they should take to the boards and complain.

ziggurcat3425d ago

"Lol! wouldn't that qualify as a "Free pass"..."

no because no one cried about it being 30fps, either. giving it a free pass would be complaining about an identical game being 30fps, then excusing this game for being 30fps. an example being a former user here stating that *all* driving games should be 60fps, no exceptions, then excusing FH2 for being 30fps .

for the record, i'm perfectly fine with bloodborne being 30fps just like i was fine with the souls games being 30fps.

"It's obvious that there are technical limitations for these systems, even on the more powerful one and that either resolution or framerate must be sacrificed."

i'm not sure where the sacrifice was since there was never any talk of them targeting 60fps to begin with.

"What I was truly insinuating is that people need to stop jumping to conclusions and getting ready to riot when a dev says that they had to make cuts in order to achieve what they wanted for gameplay."

no, you weren't. the moment you compared bloodborne with AC: Unity, your insinuation was that PS owners were forgiving bloodborne simply because it was a PS title.

and it's from the creator of the souls series, so we already know that the gameplay is going to be fun, and incredibly challenging. we also already know that gameplay is not going to suffer just because it's 30fps.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3425d ago

Unity doesn't run above or at 30fps. That's one of the reasons it's getting so much flack.

hkgamer3425d ago

first of all. this game is an exclusive as well as it being on a sony platform so there is less hatred.

secondly, ubisoft has fked up too many times. and it was the thing to gate them.

thridly, console parity was mentioned. that should not exist. unless it was last gen when ps3 gamers wanted parity.

finally, he talked about it being cinematic and compared it with hobbit movie.

like to say that i am a playstation fan and play most of my games on sony devices. dont hate on me too much im just having fun and jokingly stating things that did happen in the past.

KwietStorm_BLM3425d ago

Pretty sure he was misquoted there, and he corrected it.

MasterCornholio3425d ago

Holy crap your comparing this to Assasins Creed Unity?

For your info the reason why people complained wasn't because the game ran at 30FPS its because the game ran way below that plus it was a bug ridden mess. Something that even Ubisoft admitted.

freshslicepizza3425d ago (Edited 3425d ago )

its getting a free pass for two main reasons.

1. the game isn't unity and if it hits 30 frames that puts it above unity already. along with this being 1080p.

2. we have no scale to judge this game on, which is exactly what sony wants. we cannot compare this to the xbox one version for example and scream parity if both are 30 frames and both have the same resolution. and because sony is locking it out from coming to the pc we wont be able to determine the weakness in the console.

another reason can also be attributed to plain old biased people here. look at the reaction to tomb raider getting the shaft on the ps4. now fast forward to street fighter. two very different attitudes, at least thats the impression i get on the forums. people justify things when it suits them.

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The 7 Best Souls-Like Games - Mastering the Challenge

The Souls-like genre remains popular, along with FromSoftware's classics there are many contenders. But which are the best Souls-like games?

toxic-inferno23d ago

Hmm... In my opinion, the 7 best are the 6 made by FromSoftware (DeS, DS1, DS2, DS3, BB and ER), then Lies of P. But each to their own.

kevco3323d ago

Still DS1? You don't feel it's been surpassed yet?

Demon's Souls has the remake of course, but DS1 has surely been outdated?

Smellsforfree23d ago

I think that the DS1 remake is better looking than DS2. The interior lighting matched with the low resolution textures in DS2 is very garish, IMO.

Besides graphics, what do you mean by DS1 being "outdated"? I'm someone who played through Elden Ring and just recently played through the DS series, and as far as gameplay went, there were all very similar.

Cacabunga23d ago

I haven’t played many but Bloodborne and NIOH1 are on top of my list.. had a blast with these 2

toxic-inferno23d ago

For world design and interconnectedness (that's a word, right?) DS1 is yet to be beaten.

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9 Years Later, Does Bloodborne Deserve All The Praise It Gets?

Saad from eXputer: "Almost a decade later, it's time to take the nostalgia goggles off and accept that Bloodborne has long been surpassed by its successors."

jznrpg25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Yes, yes it does. It’s still a great game. Elden Ring isn’t better just different and a bit easier . I like that you have to be aggressive but smart in Bloodborne

thorstein25d ago

I literally replayed it recently and it's better than I remember. I think it's like going back to a beloved book and noticing things I hadn't before.

raWfodog25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Yo! I was getting ready to reply with the exact same four words you started with lol. Yes, I think Bloodborne has withstood the test of time and remains a great game. That’s why all the fans are hoping for a sequel someday. Hoping that we can catch that magic again with a new storyline.

Leeroyw25d ago

Yes. Just replayed it a few days ago. My first Platinum. And yes. I rage quitted so many times and called it BS too when I started. It's tight. The combat is amazing and the lore is rich.

GamingSinceForever24d ago

Elden Ring was easier? I don’t know about that at all. I remember leveling up in Bloodborne and breezing through it. In Elden Ring no matter how powerful I got I was still catching a beat down from every boss.

thorstein24d ago

That's due to scaling enemies. I remember not doing Haligtree untill near the end and having enemies withstand almost a full blast from Azur's Glintstone Staff Comet Azure. My level was quite high.

Melee characters are not fun in that game, especially for the Elden Beast.

MeteorPanda25d ago

Considering l did a run 2 months ago? Yes.

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Bloodborne's Potential Remaster Continues To Be Sony's Biggest Missed Opportunity

"Sony is missing out on a hugely profitable opportunity by ignoring fan demands for a Bloodborne remaster and PC port," says Ahmed from eXputer.

thorstein53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

Bloodborne came out on the PS4. It is owned by From Software. What missed opportunity? I am sure the people at From Software know what they are doing. Especially since they are hiring devs instead of laying them off.

Maybe do an article about that instead of writing a hit piece on them acting like they don't know how to run their business.

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-Foxtrot53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

To be fair Hidetaka Miyazaki said in an interview

“Unfortunately, and I’ve said this in other interviews, it’s not in my place to talk about Bloodborne specifically. We simply don’t own the IP at FromSoftware.”

So the ball kind of is in Sonys court, it feels like a missed opportunity because it’s something people really want and Sony just hasn’t really been bothered to get it off the ground. There was rumours it was at one point but it all went silent.

Cacabunga51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Sony has been missing nothing but opportunities for a few years now.. since GOW release, it’s worrying silence we’ve been getting..

As for Bloodborne, imo it would be too soon to release it because PS4 game still looks phenomenal..

Bloodborne REMAKE I think will be PS6 launch title by Bluepoint. I truly hope so! 2 gens later we can get the same wow effect as Demons Souls.

Eonjay51d ago

He is right because it is Sonys IP but a little further back he also explained that they only work on one game at a time. This means that From must also be available. In other words it could already be in the pipeline. Ecen if that is the case, it's still up to Sony to reveal it when they are ready. As ever, I prefer not to hear about it until it's about 3 to 6 months from releasing.

CrashMania53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

'Bloodborne came out on the PS4. It is owned by From Software'

Actually Sony owns the IP, same with Demon's Souls. I think they'd prefer if From did the work on any future of both of those though, but if Sony wanted to they could have those off to anyone else to work on them, like the DS remake.

thorstein53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

Yeah. Thanks for the info.

But I still think that remasters should wait a generation. And Blue Point did Demon's Souls which was superb.

It can be a huge risk. And I think Hidetaka Miyazaki hinted that it would be a PS6 title. I don't he has no say in what happens, it's a partnership.

--Onilink--52d ago

To be honest, if there is a remake/remaster (not that it needs one) I would prefer someone else to handle it, like they did with Demon Souls

From many perspectives From Soft is an amazing developer, BUT, on a technical level they are far from impressive, both in terms of dated visuals (again, on a technical level, not art/design) and usually poor performance.

And what is the point of a remake/remaster if not to provide a visual and performance enhancement to a game that already nailed the rest?

Michiel198951d ago

@thorstein what huge risk? Part of one of the most well known ip's in gaming nowadays, there's not much risk there when it comes to a remake.

thorstein51d ago

@Michiel

I meant remasters in general are a huge risk, not Bloodborne.

Bloodborne isn't, but I think it's going to be on PS6, like how Demon's Souls went from PS3 to PS5.

Sorry for the confusion.

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thesoftware73052d ago (Edited 52d ago )

Thorstein,

Wow, your post seems angry..relax it's an opinion.

And btw, it is on Sony, they have the exclusive right to the game, on top of that, they could have easily, at bare minimum, offered an official 60fps patch, with a few extras and charged people $10 to upgrade or $30-40 for new buyers.

I believe I saw an interview where , FromSoft said it was all up to Sony on a sequel and other dealing with the game.

A "hit peice", that serious huh?..relax lol.

thorstein51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Wow you seem angry. I responded to crash 2 days ago about the remaster and who did it.

Why do you care what other people think in a moment about some journalism. Calm down, buddy, it's just my opinion. From 3 days ago.

Edit: I just went back through my comments and found 2 where I call out the author in the past month. Wow, I'm a rageaholic.

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potatoseal53d ago (Edited 53d ago )

It will be a launch title on PS6 just like the remake of Demon's Souls for PS5 launch

OhReginald52d ago

Sony realizes people will flock to buy ps6s for a bloodborne remake. Easy money.

jznrpg52d ago (Edited 52d ago )

Rumored it’s slated for PS6 launch. Some say PS5 Pro. Who knows ?

P_Bomb52d ago

Highly requested, unfortunately neglected.

jznrpg25d ago

Some say we didn’t need TLOU2 remake but that was a PS4 game and now we need a BB remake but that was a PS4 game. We send mixed signals

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