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Sony doesn't believe DriveClub's troubled launch damaged its reputation

PlayStation Europe boss Jim Ryan doesn't believe that DriveClub's troubled launch damaged Sony's reputation, and that fans "understand that mistakes [happen] as long as you apologise and make them right".

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rodiabloalmeida3427d ago

Oh sony, you can bet it did. Just think better.

KOIMOJO3427d ago (Edited 3427d ago )

I honestly agree with him. I feel like drive club wasn't a big enough disaster on a big enough game to really hurt their reputation. When you put everything in perspective I think it is and will be looked at as just a small blip. I haven't yet had the negative ambiance surround the thought of Sony as I have with companies like EA or Ubisoft concerning their respective mishaps.

I don't know if the reason is because I think of all of sony's developers as seperate companies unlike the others, but I definately have no hesitation to buy more of their upcoming games. Maybe the next evolution game.... But that's about it lol.

Alsybub3427d ago

Agreed, it will have damaged the reputation of Evolution but not Sony.

rodiabloalmeida3427d ago

It's a small blip indeed. But denying the damage, especially if you think on the PSN Plus perspective, you just can't.

Palitera3427d ago

It is another proof that Sony's network still sucks. How is this not damaging?!

nix3427d ago

@Alsybub:

i guess you're right. as much as i hate the launch of broken games, i don't think Sony's image was damaged with DC. Evolution's image on the other hand.. tch tch.

remember Lair? i think the devs got flamed for putting the motion sensors as the only way to control the dragons. devs probably got flamed because sony lets devs do what they want to do.. so inevitably it became the devs fault for that move.

DC probably falls under the same category. will i buy the game after i pick up a PS4. yes. definitely yes.

it takes years and years of deliveries of terrible games to blame the publishers. for example EA and now Ubisoft. these two publishers have tied devs hand and made them release broken, stupid games again and again.

kayoss3427d ago (Edited 3427d ago )

@palitera
How is it going with Halo MCC on multiplayer?? Did you like the DDOS earlier last week by lizard squad>
Take your comment and shove it because both network are not perfect. Each have a problem of their own. I didnt want to attack you, but your comment is idiotic. Have you ever sat down and think that its not the network that is the problem but the game itself.

BadlyPackedKeebab3427d ago

Hands who's getting drive club 2?

thought so...

hay3427d ago

It's not much of a hit. It's a bit bleak for Evolution and their fans but Sony already walked it off. The only things damaged are our game expectations, pleasure of riding the hypetrain and a little bit of faith towards the pre-ordering and announcements.

Volkama3427d ago

Maybe it didn't damage their reputation, but it scuppered an opportunity to build on it.

PSN doesn't have a great reputation relative to Live (rightly or wrongly, Live is perceived as having stronger multiplayer infrastructure), so a major first party game releasing well would have gone some way towards established PSN as a worthy rival.

donthate3426d ago

It might not hurt Sony in the long run, but I think the answer and the attitude will surely hurt Sony in the long run!

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freshslicepizza3427d ago (Edited 3427d ago )

it has hurt their reputation because the issues with driveclub get compounded due to every time psn has issues and is down for maintenance. consumers have been questioning sony's online infrastructure for years and driveclub's issues with no psn plus version in sight highlights these issues even more. lengthy delays in messages getting delivered and the way trophies syn. also reflect on the network.

Utalkin2me3427d ago

I hate people that have no clue about PSN. During maintenance you can not access the store or your account info. You can still play online and chat and message and all that stuff. I'm kind of suprised people still even make this comment, cause people with PSN knows what goes on.

freshslicepizza3427d ago

you can play online as long as you log in at a certain time period. why cant you explain why they need to shut off certain service in order to do maintenance and not be able to do this in the background? why didn't you comment on why messages take so long to get to the receiver? why didnt you comment about how trophies sync? or why they still cant release the plus version of driveclub yet still sell the game online?

dont just cherry pick one area and hit disagree because you dont want to admit the service has issues that should have been addressed long ago.

LordMaim3427d ago (Edited 3427d ago )

Looking at the sales, maybe not, but word of mouth can kill you. They have a long road to recover their goodwill.

Honestly though, you can't expect him to answer a loaded question like this with any other answer. It's his job to make it right, not give up hope. By acknowledging the problem and following through on the plan to correct the issues, he's standing by the people who bought the game. Only time will tell if it will be enough.

WickedLester3427d ago

Actually I think word of mouth is HELPING Driveclub. While the initial reviews weren't kind to the game, those of us who bought it and are playing it are loving it! I dont' hesitate for a second to tell people to try it out because the game is a blast!

Bigpappy3427d ago (Edited 3427d ago )

Playstation and Apple have the most loyal fanbases on the planet. I don't think this in near enough to cause any real back lash.

M$ was probably hurt more by Halo's network issues. That game is way more important, and even if they sell millions, I am sure they lost just as many who would have bought it on the hype alone. Plus prior to this problem, Xbox was riding high on their network being supper stable. Even though this is a coding issue, it will still hurt that image.

averagejoe263427d ago

Yup. Microsoft lost me. Was planning on getting xbox1 for the halo remasters but I decided not to because of the issues.

I don't think anyone is refusing to buy ps4's because of driveclub's issues.

Ps4's reputation definitely wasn't damaged. Maybe a few gamers but definitely not the gaming community.

demonicale3427d ago

Yes it did, and it taught me never to buy another launch game again. I will wait a few weeks before buying games in future. Also i will NEVER buy a digital purchase again.

KOIMOJO3426d ago

That is smart practice now days period.

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Jimboms3427d ago

Interesting article mate.

blakstarz3427d ago

I don't think it did much damage, I'm still looking forward to playing the game myself.

weirdo3427d ago

It's the best driving experience I've ever had, was playing online last night until 4pm. Sooo pretty.

imt5583427d ago

Challenges online are great!

Anyway, game sold in decent numbers, so i don't think Sony's or Evolution's reputation is damaged.

averagejoe263427d ago (Edited 3427d ago )

I agree. The game is awesome. People jump on the hate train without even playing it themselves.

That's why Sony's reputation wasn't hurt by this... Because the game is actually good.

Intentions3427d ago

Oh I don't believe it would damage their reputation, even if it does it would be small.

Now I can't say the same thing to Evolution Studios tho.

Regardless, it would be pretty annoying. Even tho I have to say, I don't like the way he commented about this, seems like he is trying to make it seem like it wasn't a problem.

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60FPS on PS5: Unofficial PS5 'FPS Boost' mods are radically improving PS4 back compat

Digital Foundry : Whether it's via FPS Boost or bespoke software upgrades, backwards compatibility on the current-gen consoles delivered an unexpected delight - the ability to liberate older console games from their 30fps limits, running them at 60 frames per second or even higher. FPS Boost did the business for Xbox Series consoles on an impressive range of titles, but there was always the sense that PS5 could do more. It's a hunch that checks out as a range of frame-rate unlocks are available for PS5, covering many must-have games - the major caveat being that only exploitable consoles running on older firmwares are invited to the party.

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darthv72102d ago

you love to see new life being breathed into older titles but damn the process to get there. It should be automatic that these work for everyone... not just those who exploit their systems. Really wish Sony and MS would keep this program going officially.

Psychonaut85101d ago

Damn this sucks. I want this shit so bad, but I’m not jailbreaking my console. And frankly I shouldn’t have to. I’m not a tech person, but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate? Or would that have to be a large patch?

dveio101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

"but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate?"

I guess it's not.

But it has become a profitable business if you do so.

So no one would pay for only the framerate patched to being unlocked. So studios need to offer more than that.

But this would take more time, polishing and would cost more money. So they shy away, but won't unlock the framerate, either.

That's just my personal assumption. But from what I can comprehend technically, it shouldn't be difficult to unlock framerates via a patch for older games.

... if it hadn't became a business.

RaidenBlack101d ago (Edited 101d ago )

frame-rate unlock should be free ...
We've seen many devs offer free patches and updates to pretty old PC titles, even bonuses ... so why can't devs offer the frame unlock patch for free (in consultation with the platform-producers) for a title from just a generation earlier?

Einhander1972101d ago

RaidenBlack

"frame-rate unlock should be free ..."

Obviously the result of that thinking is that developers aren't even going to do it.

If they had been allowed to charge $5-10 you would see incentivized developers doing it way more often.

People just always want everything for free, but it's not free to make the patch, people have to code it then other people have to test it, and there will always be other costs involved.

If people want dollar store gaming then expect to get what you pay for.

shinoff2183100d ago (Edited 100d ago )

Raiden I might be wrong but last I thought it cost money to put patches out on consoles.

As far as me paying for it, I'm not all that interested tbh. Not enough to pay for it with older games, and newer games have been pretty decent about it for the most part.

dumahim101d ago

Sounds like the modder has to go in to make changes to unlock it on a game by game basis. "Simple" enough to do it unofficially, but to have it done officially, they need someone to go in a make that change, put out a patch and put it through certification, which I believe is not necessarily a cheap thing to do. It's questionable if going through this would then give them enough sales to make it worthwhile.

Inverno101d ago

Many games still have physics tied to framerate, i think it's cause they wouldn't want to go in and do anything extra. Then there's the 10 dollar upgrades they rather charge. The problem is that there's no compromise, cause if I could mod my PS4 and all I'd lose is online play then id jailbreak it immediately. Mods have done so much for PC games and they could do the same for consoles, but manufacturers hafto be willing to compromise.

shinoff2183100d ago

It's not to hard to do and there's youtube videos that break it down really well. ANyway most of us here arent able to break are console anyway due to being up to date on firmware from playing

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Chocoburger101d ago

Yep, this sucks having to require a jailbreak for something that should be standard in our industry by now. I learned my lesson when PS4 was jailbroken and I didn't keep a console on low firmware for years, but now I'm holding onto two low firmware PS5s specifically because there are features I'll be able to do that you can't do on official firmware, so this will pay off for me soon enough.

Jin_Sakai101d ago

It should be a sin to let these games sit and be stuck at 30fps.

EazyC101d ago

RDR 2 not getting a 60FPS patch for PS5 was a crime.

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Driveclub - Brutal Backlog

Driveclub was a headline game at the start of the PS4’s life. A fabulous game – eventually - but what now, with the servers turned off? Is it worth your time? JDR starts its engines in today’s Brutal Backlog.

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Abear21783d ago

Bikes expansion might be one of the most underrated games of last gen. Incredible driver and bike animations + DC weather is craze.

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20 Best PS4 Racing Games You Should Play

Cultured Vultures: We won't stop until everyone appreciates how brilliant Driveclub is/was.

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Terry_B1203d ago

Are there even more than 20?

purple1011202d ago

i went to the article and theres only a couple racing games, cant find the button to move page on through all the adverts.

purple1011202d ago

ah its changed to a video now, strange, but il take it

Dfooster1201d ago

Dirt rally doesn't even make the list? Errm OK then.

Driveclub is over rated as well, with middle of the road handling and the 30fps killed it upon arrival for me.