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Sony Apes Sunset Overdrive’s Font with “Sale of the Dead”

CraveOnline: "If you hop onto PSN today, you’ll notice something called the “Sale of the Dead,” a multi-week promotion offering presumably scary or horror-themed games at reduced prices. The art is cool, the idea is cool, and hey, so is the font! So cool that it’s plastered all over Sunset Overdrive‘s marketing materials, since its developers, you know, invented the font for that very reason."

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-Alpha3473d ago

Funny enough, Insomniac made a little poke at this

http://a.disquscdn.com/uplo...

Christopher3473d ago (Edited 3473d ago )

It is very weird and bad form, IMHO. Though, the font has been out there since February of 2014:

http://www.dafont.com/overd...

Edit: I'm guessing we'll see a change on this soon as it's probably the work of someone in marketing who thought it would be funny. Think they will be informed otherwise very soon.

Genuine-User3473d ago

Why do you find it bad?
It's only a font :s

moegooner883473d ago

What exactly is " Sony " trying to accomplish with this ? Rather they focus on that first party line up of theirs, and stop paying too much attention to what the others are doing.

GameDev13473d ago

bad form? why?

If Insomniac feels it breaks the copyright of their own font, they can easily talk to the Sony members responsible and it will be taken down

But Insomniac are a lovely studio and seem to appreciate Sony's use of their font, a company which they have been making games exclusively for a long while

-Alpha3473d ago (Edited 3473d ago )

^ It can be considered in bad form because Insomniac created the font.

jstevenson, who works for Insomniac as Community lead said that the font was created by Insomniac.

A fan then went on to create what he/she figured the rest of the alphabet would look like, based on the existing letters in the "SUNSET OVERDRIVE" font. Insomniac had no issue with this, as it was done with their blessing.

But then, someone at Sony then used the fan-created font, for the PSN Store.

I'm not saying it's a big deal or anything, but it does seem that some intern or someone just lifted the font, and Insomniac ultimately decided to poke fun at it and leverage attention to their game. Mistakes happen, after all.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Christopher3473d ago

I find it bad form just like I found MS' cologne ad for Destiny bad form. It's a, IMHO, childish reminder of something they don't have. In MS' case it was Destiny advertising rights, in Sony's case it is a developer that worked on Sony exclusive IPs and have what looks to be one of the best games they've made in over a decade.

nX3473d ago

I would'nt even know that this is the font used in Sunset Overdrive... sensationalism much? Insomniac doesn't seem to have a problem with it so neither should you.

MRMagoo1233473d ago (Edited 3473d ago )

Would it actually be a typeface not a font? I can't imagine it matters much at all its more of a compliment if anything.

George Sears3473d ago

@cgoodno

Funny as for me MS attempt for Destiny ad was not only funny, but clever at the same time.

AliTheSnake13473d ago

You know what, that font is gonna be mine.

PATENT PENDING.

r2oB3473d ago (Edited 3473d ago )

@ moegooner88

Killzone Shadowfall
Knack
Infamous SS
MLB the show
TLoU Remaster
Driveclub
Little Big Planet 3

That's 7 first party games available on the PS4 during the consoles first year. I'd say they are doing a pretty good job focusing on their first party lineup. Nice stealth troll attempt though.

4Sh0w3473d ago

I like this tweet from Sunset Overdrives official twitter account:

"Hey @Playstation. Nice font. Glad you guys are excited for @SunsetOverdrive too."

-Cool both are having fun with it, so no big deal to me.

XisThatKid3473d ago

Now I'm all for the good fun and competitive nature of "The Console Wars" but some are way too sensitive for this lifestyle. SOny helped buid Insomniac and in all advertising this makes sense on all parts they still have a buisness relationship with them as well it's not like they are trying to hurt them and lastly WHO GIVES A [BLAM] it's a font and changes nothing besides the direction of rage on an internet forum children. I don't want to directly attack anyone but this one is sooooo ridiculous no wonder people look at our community like this.

Christopher3473d ago

Just so I get this right, me saying I think it is bad form is me being sensitive? I don't recall starting a petition or going on a rant about this.

If someone has a different opinion than you, you might not want to jump to the conclusion that they're just sensitive as a way to belittle their opinion. Sometimes people just have different opinions.

Gazondaily3473d ago

I dont see it as that big a deal. There are no IP infringements and could even be an honest mistake.

I dont think the Destiny ad wasn't bad form either. I dont get why that ruffled so many feathers. The competitive jibes in this industry are less brazen than you find in others.

Volkama3473d ago

Not bad form Imo, because it isn't disrespectful in any way.

It is stupid though. If it was an accident, it was stupid. If it was deliberately chosen to counter overdrive, well that's even more stupid.

Insomniac won't mind the free attention that's for sure.

badz1493473d ago

alright it's the SSO font but does anything in what Sony is doing with it sounds like an attempt or a blatant demeaning to anybody especially to MS and Insomniac? is there anything there saying;

"you don't need SSO, play these games you can get for great prices instead!"?

NONE! so, why is there the need to be offended or anything? even Insomniac finds it flattering.
I wonder what these people that finds this as "desperate", "sad" or anything thought about when MS blatantly said;

"Xbox ONE is the BEST place to play Destiny!"

during their conference eventhough they don't have the marketing rights to it. that's even more "desperate" IMO.

if Aping SSO font is what this is, and people are aware that it's from SSO doesn't that mean that Sony actually 'help' raising awareness among the PS community that there is a game from Insomniac coming eventhough it's on the competitor's machine? I think it's good sport and glad to see Sony and Insomniac are in good terms!

4Sh0w3473d ago (Edited 3473d ago )

badz OK, I'm not offended by this at all but your analogy is ridiculous= ALL company's always say their product is the BEST, BEST place for this, BEST place for that, blah, blah, blah but this is UNUSUAL because the sony ad is blatantly using the intellectual property(IP) that happens to be a font created by Insomniac. I think your analogy would work better with micro using the *Destiny cologne ad's because that's an UNUSUAL marketing trick to force people to talk about Destiny being multiplat= on X1 too. Again all this is no more than a little bit of fun humor, nothing even remotely to get the pitch forks out for but just saying your analogy is pretty silly and of course as usual the FANS make a bigger deal of these situations than the actual companies really care about it.

Silly Mammo3473d ago (Edited 3473d ago )

Anyone think that maybe Insomniac and Sony still have a good relationship with each other(dating back to the PS2 days) and they are just having fun? Does it have to be some nefarious plot by Sony. Let's try to remember that they are companies creating games. Insomniac and Naughty Dog used to make none too subtle references to each other's games inside their own games. Was it because they were trying to insult each other? No, they did it out of mutual respect for one another.

People need to stop looking for slights to be offended by and just lighten up!

Clown_Syndr0me3473d ago

@r2ob

I think the games this year have been great but come off it, that list isn't that impressive.

Killzone Shadowfall - Worst killzone of the bunch, basically a tech demo but graphicLly amazing.
Knack - Oh please.
Infamous SS - Okay this was well received, but people stopped talking about it very quickly.
MLB the show - I think only baseball fans would like this so limited audience, most likely bigger in USA.
TLoU Remaster - Amazing game, but it is a remaster rather than a new game so could potentially knock some of the wow factor away.
Driveclub - Very average reviews and reportedly completely broken online? (Not played it)
Little Big Planet 3 - Not released so cannot comment.

RosweeSon3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

You've never seen the Sega and Nintendo adverts of days old? I'm all for a bit of banter and a laugh if you cant have a laugh what's the point, although generally it does look a bit pathetic when you have to constantly rely on bashing the competition, not saying any of them have but yeah we all know what they can and can't do let the consoles speak for themselves.

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geddesmond3473d ago

Isn't it funny how developers now think they own word fonts. Insomniac will know Soon that they made a mistake with X1 exclusivity. Take all the Sony shots they want but in reality if you want a publisher to fund your games they want something in return. In Sonys case it was to own the IP they helped create. Without Sony Insomniac probably wouldn't still be around now.

I really hope Sunset Overdrive does great for them because they are great developers but given how Xbox owners received them last gen I don't see it selling more than a mil first 3 months. I hope I'm wrong but Insomniac definitely backed the wrong horse this gen. If it was PS4 exclusive or even multiplatthe sales would have been triple what they will be because frankly Insomniacs fanbase like Bungies was for Xbox is o Playstation.

u4one3473d ago

A lot of developers do own the fonts they use for logos and box art. They are designed in house or by hired designers. They also have licensing restrictions most of the time to protect their branding. I am a designer in advertising and game media. This is something I happen to know about.

vallencer3473d ago

They didn't back microsoft. Microsoft backed them. There's a huge difference. And as far as them owning the font, they ACTUALLY do own the font. Their community manager created the font. So it is their font and is under copyright infringement if they so decided to do something. But judging by their twitter account they don't care.

Sevir3473d ago

Um, they actually do own the font, but just the ones they created for the Logo. the entire alphabet in that font was created by a fan on the insomniac forums. Son simply showed that they are being good sports about this.

Secondly They went with MS because they wanted to own the IP, MS cleverly has a policy which does allow independent developers to keep their IP as long as it stays exclusive to their Platform. And i'm not sure why you're crying and making a big deal. Insomniac has a PS4 exclusive being developed this very moment from their Burbank and NC studio.

geddesmond3473d ago

@Sevir

Yeah see the tears all over my comment. Eh isn't that exactly what I said except used different words. I don't know about you but if I'm going to fund a game for 50 mil and market it I want rights to that thing I made possible. Just like MS did with Halo and what ever other few IPs they own.

Me I couldn't give a shit if SO was on PS4 or not. It just looks like a cross between Infamous and Rachet and Clank to me. Both games I can only play on PS4. Whats funny is all my disagrees. Yeah because I imagined all the hate I got on the internet from Xbox fans telling me the likes of Rachet and Resistance were shit when I talked about games I love last gen.

As for the fonts thing. I've seen that O and E used years ago on graffiti art so who really owns the font huh. So for future reference when people dot off an i with a cross or put a hazard sign in the middle of an o or a slash through the o or a love heart over an i or so on and so forth they have been used for years if not decades in graffiti art. Know body owns them because they can't be owned.

TheRedButterfly3473d ago

Dude, Insomniac invented the font for SO. Get your head out your ass.

Also, regarding your second paragraph, SO is XO exclusive because MS let Insomniac keep the IP. Get your facts straight.

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AngelicIceDiamond3473d ago

Yeah Sony took a jab at MS exclusive when in reality they should be focusing on getting DC working.

I don't understand why Sony is so aggressive lately this gen.

MRMagoo1233473d ago

Yes I'm sure the advertising division would have been better put to use helping evolution finish their game.

GTgamer3473d ago

Fixing DC online is EVO's job sooooo what the marketing team gotta do with that.

AngelicIceDiamond3473d ago

@GT Yep. Just like how people say MS "needs to quit" investing all their money in the third party and other things needs and invest in the first party.

Two different teams doing two different duties.

Spotie3473d ago

Come on, Angelic. Just admit that was a stupid comment.

Ballsack3473d ago

@Angel you make a dumb comment, then instead of going in a corner somewhere red faced and embarrassed you try to defend your dumb comment by making another..

Whether third party or first party its money from microsofts gaming division how is that comparison valid to your first comment?

Fanboyism has truly f'd you up.

AngelicIceDiamond3473d ago (Edited 3473d ago )

Alright don't cry take a chill pill.
Fanboyism?

Hmm cute.

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BeefCurtains3473d ago

That was a good tweet by insomniac! I wonder if Playstation will respond, it doesnt seem to bother insomniac.

jznrpg3472d ago

Your name is ridiculously funny, or I'm just an immature old man.

OT . This font has been used in old graffiti in early 80s , nothing new just forgotten.

TheTwelve3473d ago

I love this kind of stuff. =)

DLConspiracy3473d ago (Edited 3473d ago )

See PlayStation is actually supporting insomniac. They are saying Sunset Overdrive is a great game go out and buy a copy PS only fans.

die_fiend3473d ago

Saw the advert for this on TV the other day. Looks like absolute garbage

Buff10443472d ago

It's all in good fun. You guys take things too seriously.

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nicksetzer13473d ago (Edited 3473d ago )

Hmm, it is literlly an exact copy of the text, I am just confused as to why.

@Alpha that is hilarious.

qwerty6763473d ago (Edited 3473d ago )

i dont understand why they would use it also.

maybe they were going for a theme for this sale and the SO font fit perfectly

kinda unoriginal but its w/e i guess, just copying font nothing to bad.

novacav3473d ago

Yeah, it's not huge deal. It's just weird bc since it's such a unique font, you immediately associate it with SO. It's not like we're dealing with Helvetica here.

geddesmond3473d ago

Maybe its a Sony nod to let Insomniac know they are watching

MysticStrummer3473d ago

That would be my guess. I'd never have known it was anything other than a Halloween/Monster movie style font.

BrianG3473d ago

Nothing wrong with some harmless fun here and there. Glad to see both sides taking it lightly.

OB1Biker3473d ago

I agree, Ive no idea why some think its like a big deal. Insomniac are still working with Sony. Sometimes gaming news are like tabloid news and people make a fuss out of nothing

jrshankill3473d ago

Sony doesn't need to do this kind of stuff though. If you are ahead of the competition, you don't mention the competition. You don't need to.

Basically all they have done here is advertise Sunset Overdrive by using their font. It has people talking online, it is the hottest topic on N4G Xbox One and PS4. Dumb move.

BrianG3472d ago (Edited 3472d ago )

Why does everything have to be about business thought?

And so what if they advertised Sunset Overdrive, a great developer that has worked exclusively with Sony for many many years has made a new product. No harm in Sony throwing some love their way, even if it's not on a Sony platform.

EDIT: And in case you missed it, obviously Insomniac is taking it lightly, so why don't we?
http://a.disquscdn.com/uplo...

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10 Years Later, Sunset Overdrive Still Remains A Beloved Xbox Exclusive

Does it still hold up in 2024?

We've still got a few months to go, but October marks the 10-year anniversary of this Insomniac Games title, with the developer having since moved on to work on the Marvel's Spider-Man games for PlayStation. It was assumed that Sunset Overdrive might make its way to other platforms eventually, but that hasn't happened as of yet.

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Christopher19d ago

So beloved that it sold so well that there's a sequel and Insomniac never had the opportunity to go back to Sony to develop games exclusively for Sony.

RaidenBlack19d ago

ngl, I was low-key expecting Sunset Overdrive to migrate to PS as well along with Hi-Fi Rush and SoT

Christopher19d ago

I think that would require Insomniac going back to work on it to port it over, probably why that's not happening.

RaidenBlack19d ago

Didn't Sony help with SoT port?

Christopher19d ago

I think only in so far as they support every piece of software heading their way? They have that team who specializes in helping people port games, not just SoT, and then the one team that takes PS5 games and ports them to PC (that's their full time job essentially). But that team, the former mentioned one, doesn't do all the work, just help out with how to best do things. So, that team wouldn't port a whole game like Sunset Overdrive.

RaidenBlack19d ago

Ok I thought you meant Insomniac reluctant/Sony not permitting them to go back and work on Overdrive. Hence I added the participation from Sony's side.
But yea, In actuality its Insomniac not having spare dev time to get involved in the port work, atm.

Christopher19d ago

*** But yea, In actuality its Insomniac not having spare dev time to get involved in the port work, atm. ***

Definitely this. They're working on two major IPs as it is and Sony forced them to layoff some people at the end of last year as well. So, likely not capable of sparing the time because resources are being fully utilized.

badz14919d ago (Edited 19d ago )

There was an article awhile back talking about the situation with SSoD. Insomniac does own the IP and Sony now owns it after they bought Insomniac but the publishing right for SSoD is owned by MS - at least the 1st game still is. MS has to sell the publishing rights like they did with the first Mass Effect game to EA after EA bought Bioware before Sony can do anything with the IP.

Einhander197218d ago

Nobody cares about Sunset Overdrive, except all the xbox fanboys who didn't buy it but like to come into articles about the game and try to act like it's somehow Sony's fault for whatever reason.

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darthv7219d ago

there was supposed to be a sequel. IG had it all planned but MS said no. And Sony wont greenlight a sequel if they cant get the first one away from MS. Plus... IG has other projects they moved on to anyways so...... yeah.

fr0sty19d ago

Well, with the recent change in policy towards exclusivity, I imagine Sony could get MS to port it over.

Zeref19d ago

Because a game needs to sell 10 million copies for it to be considered beloved 😂

Christopher19d ago

I mean, it's also not a highly rated game, not even in Insomniac's top ten or even top ten on Xbox that year. With this logic, any game can be beloved and so throwing around the word beloved means absolutely nothing. Doesn't have to sell or have great critical reception, just a handful of people need to love it.

Hofstaderman19d ago

You guys are so starved for games you reminiscing about a decade old game made by a now Sony studio. Of course it never sold 10 million, the vast majority of people bought a PS4.

LucasRuinedChildhood19d ago

A game not played by many can still be beloved by those who played it, yeah.

Only making a profit of $567 after 10 years shows that it was not as beloved as it should have been though. That's really bad.

As much as people complain about AAA games not being unique or having fun ideas or bringing in new IP, a lot of gamers don't show up for them. Even less people seem to have played Hi-Fi Rush.

romulus2318d ago

What's it considered if it just sells 1.8 million copies like it did?.

FinalFantasyFanatic18d ago

It was okay when I played it on PC, idk if I'd consider it one of the more beloved games of that generation.

Zeref18d ago

@Christopher

8s and 9s is not highly rated, okay buddy 😂

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MontyeKristo19d ago

I mean, it sounds like you're just hating on the game - but, I loved it. It was one of my favorite games of it's time and that generation. Replayability could have been better, but I still managed to play it several times. I would have greatly appreciated a sequel and definitely would have been in line to pick it up..

Things happen.

Christopher19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

***I mean, it sounds like you're just hating on the game***

No, that's all the people who refused to accept that this game was beloved and never even bought it. I, on the other hand, bought, played it, thought it was 'okay' and moved on.

Now, what hate did you see in my post other than listing the fact that it's not as beloved as the few who liked it? This and Days Gone get way more love in online discussions than they do in sales and support, I find. Both are okay games, not much more. But for some **unknown** reason, people prop them up often as more than they are.

Profchaos19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

It's in noabs land unfortunately as Microsoft own the publishing rights to sunset overdrives original game while insomniac own the IP.

So Microsoft would have to be onboard with publishing this game on PlayStation systems with the understanding the would not profit from any subsequent games in the franchise unlike the games they are currently releasing on ps5 to get players into their franchises this would be a small cash injection build a fanbase around a game they no longer own then nothing.

ChasterMies18d ago

I really don’t get the love for Sunset Overdrive. It’s one of the few games I bought, played a few hours, gave up, and never returned.

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isarai19d ago

Not beloved enough for Xbox owners to buy it apparently, Xbox was the worst possible audience for that game.

Obscure_Observer19d ago

Sony couldn´t give a f* about Insomniac´s freedom of creativity, that´s why you don´t have a port for that game and will not be getting a sequel either!

That franchise wil probably never make a comback thanks to Sony´s greed for money, which have turned Insomniacs into a Marvel´s slave factory until 2030.

It´s sad, but it is what it is.

ApocalypseShadow19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I didn't know that Ratchet and Clank were part of the Avengers of Marvel? Hidden in the ending credits of Guardians of the Galaxy or something? Captain Marvel?

Beyond the "cry me a river" of your comment that these Marvel games aren't on Xbox, it was Insomniac that was approached by Sony to work with Marvel to make a game. And let them decide what character they wanted to develop. They chose Spider-Man. Must be highly profitable for them. Wolverine is a profitable, recognizable character. And the X-Men definitely are a hot property that gamers would love as a story based videogame. Being that X-Men 97 brings back a popular Saturday morning cartoon and the introduction of the X-Men into the MCU movies coming up.

It was Microsoft's continued incompetence in cancelling the Marvel MMO game and turning down Marvel in making a super hero game as they were asked first.

Keep the tears flowing. It's not greed. It was smart business to say yes. And maybe Insomniac wants to make these games. And not a game that didn't sell well to an audience that doesn't buy games.

Christopher19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Neither does Microsoft either, based on your own argument here. Microsoft denied the sequel, not Insomniac/Sony. There's also no sign that Microsoft is allowing a port. They control the next two games in the IP and any DLC or the like for the first. But, nothing.

What's sad is people trying to use this game to blame businesses for doing business things that they are both doing as some way to make them look worse. Microsoft wants to use Insomniac to make a good IP that sells their platform and Sony wants to use Insomniac to make a good IP that sells their platform. But, no, Sony bad!

Don't know why the truth that these companies are very much alike is so hard for people to accept.

romulus2318d ago

Your comment literally contradicts itself but troll statements typically do. If Sony is so greedy for money as you proclaim than wouldn't it behoove them to not only release the first game on their console but a sequel as well, as that would be a way for them to make profit and that's apparently their focus according to you? Speaking of profit and greed, I suppose Microsoft bought all those Developers and Publishers in hopes that they wouldn't make any money from it, right? Your ability to troll on this site with impunity is whats sad, but it is what it is.

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PhillyDonJawn19d ago

I bought it, along with at least 1-2 million others.

PrinceOfAnger19d ago

Very fun game that need a sequel.

-Foxtrot19d ago

Insomniac: “We went with Microsoft because we want to own the IP so it’s ours”

Microsoft: *owns publishing rights preventing the studio to re-release the original game, make a remaster, remake, any DLC, massive expansions and multiple sequels on other platforms*

The logic is just…I never got it

Owning the IP was Insomniacs main defence when they announced they were making a game exclusively for MS and yet they’ve ended up “owning” an IP they can’t do anything with.

If they went with Sony like normal you might have seen a sequel by now.

Tacoboto19d ago

The winner of the Logic Cake has to be Bungie, though.

Wanted to be free from Halo and MS, so they buy themselves out, only to partner up with Activision, in the same timeframe as Activision ousting the heads of Infinity Ward, for a full decade with Destiny.

... And then things start falling apart in that relationship almost immediately, whodathought!

Christopher19d ago

Hey, when Sony offers to overpay you for your services and signs a contract that says they won't force you to do anything you don't want, who would say no? Such an overpriced purchase from Sony. Poor business, IMHO. But, honestly, I'm not a business person. But, still, I don't understand it.

darthv7219d ago

...and it seems this conundrum is also why the game cannot receive any sort of FPS boost patch for Series consoles. IG wont make it, and Ms can't get another team to do it without consent from IG. I liked it on XBO, but now I also have this on PC and I can tell ya... it definitely benefits from a 60fps frame rate.

badz14919d ago

been playing it at 1080p144fps on my modest pc. not the hardest game to max out and yeah this game definitely needs to be played at high fps considering all the actions

darthv7219d ago

Sadly this may never get the proper fps update it deserves on XB (or even PS) but I now play it on steam and it definitely feels better at 60fps than it did at 30. Its a fast paced game... you need that 60fps in this one.

babadivad19d ago

This game was so fun. Me and my brother put many hours into this one.

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15 Top Notch Single-Player Games You Can Complete in 10 Hours

For those who don't have time for massive open worlds or role-playing games with epic tales, these 15 games are worth checking out.

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anast47d ago

Good games for the $9.99 bin, you can get all of the Metro's for $10 in a bundle.

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Insomniac Games Has Made Just $567 off Sunset Overdrive

Gamingbolt writes: "Insomniac Games has enjoyed commercial success on a level it had never seen before with its Marvel’s Spider-Man games, but not all of its titles in the last decade or so have seen eye-watering sales. In fact, specifically where Sunset Overdrive is concerned, the money the studio has made off it is quite negligible, to say the least."

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darthv72127d ago

Not gonna lie... looking at the IG roadmap I was fully hoping to see SSOD2 and Resistance reboot on there. The first SSOD was fun. It definitely needed the benefits of a 60fps mode and I was expecting there to be some sort of patch or FPS boost support when played on SX. Sadly... that ship sailed, but Sony gave me hope they would do the game justice. It really is a fun game that deserves to be played.

Gazondaily127d ago

At least it made some money. Ratchet and Clank lost Sony about $8m.

Eonjay127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

And yet they were happy to join PlayStation and since then they have made that back many, many times over. And clearly, it wasn't enough to keep them from releasing another Rachet per leaks.

Einhander1972127d ago

Wanna talk about the profitability of Forza or Redfall?

8m is a number that will easily be made back when iR&C has been on the market as long as SO has, R&C will make more profit that SO ever will.

mkis007127d ago

Nah that was later updated to say it made sony money but maybe not insomniac

maniacmayhem127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

It's probably why Insomniac is going the Marvel route for a while and then later bring out their next R&C game.

It's not a bad way to do business honestly. They develope something for a while that will guarantee some money and then in between being out something of their own.

Unfortunately, with the way the industry is, this is how things are going to be mostly.

@Eonjay

Of course they were happy, I remember when they were happy they were independent, but they saw how tough it was being that and without first party support and came running back to Sony.

Einhander1972127d ago

I just want to add that $8m is only 265,000 copies at $30. The game will easily cross that.

outsider1624126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

That money can be spent buying a PS5 with Ratchet and Clank.

IRetrouk126d ago

No it didn't septic, you read projections and thought you read actual money made, calm down 🤣

Outside_ofthe_Box126d ago

"No it didn't septic, you read projections and thought you read actual money made, calm down"

So you saying he got excited and jumped the gun like a typical overzealous fanatic?

itsmebryan126d ago

@Gazo
R&C lost $8 million. So after all the pride PS5 owners took in the game they didn't buy it? That's crazy. Some said before Sony 1st party games don't sell well. I guess it's true

CobraKai126d ago

@Maniac
Marvel came to Sony with the pitch to do a Marvel game after MS turned them down. Sony gave the job to Insomniac who got to choose any Marvel character to do a game for, and the rest is history

DivineHand125126d ago

If there is one game they should have made money on it's Ratchet and Clank. That game was fun from start to finish. I hope this doesn't discourage them from making more games in the future.

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notachance127d ago

Lol look at everyone here jumping to reply based only on other comment here

The claim that R&C made $73m while costing $81m was based on leaked 2020 presentation slide, and on the same leak you can also find Insomniac’s own claim that it already made $145m on R&C Rift Apart..

outsider1624126d ago

As you can see they dont read much.

Zhipp126d ago

I didn't know Insomniac earned money from games. As a first party studio I figured all profits/losses were absorbed my the parent company.

Vits126d ago

Unless Sony coughs up the cash to buy the publishing rights from Microsoft, or the wild scenario of Microsoft snagging the IP from Sony happens, talking about sequels, ports, or even DLC is pretty much wishful thinking.

Source: https://gamevro.com/microso...

Jin_Sakai127d ago

If it were on PlayStation it would’ve sold better. Being a Microsoft exclusive was a mistake.

CrashMania127d ago

Zeref running around calling everything a flop, bet he won't call this a flop, can't begin to imagine why.

darthv72127d ago

well..... it did make IG some kind of $ unlike R&C which lost $8m in the process.

Does that count?

TheKingKratos126d ago

Well darth ... You went full fanboy and pretty much acting stupid or possibly can't read

As a user above said

They claim that R&C made $73m while costing $81m was based on leaked 2020 presentation slide, and on the same leak you can also find Insomniac’s own claim that it already made $145m on R&C Rift Apart..

Kribwalker127d ago

Yeah 😂😂😂 That’s why the newest ratchet game lost $8 million

purple101127d ago

Had a bigger budget
+ console shortage
+ is was ps5 only.

God if war and gt7 were made crossgen and made money in the same time period

Jin_Sakai127d ago

“Yeah 😂😂😂 That’s why the newest ratchet game lost $8 million“

Sunset Overdrive budget $42.6 million
Ratchet & Clank budget $81 million

You do the math. 😉

Eonjay127d ago

Rachet and Clank sold more than Sunset Overdrive so yes.

CrashMania127d ago

You'd have a point if the numbers weren't from 2022, and before the PC port, and before the thread, mkis. Might not have made a huge profit, but it didn't lose money.

notachance127d ago

Before 2022 and before PC Port, yes

Be honest, you jumped to reply this only by looking at some other comment mentioning that while completely skipping the following replies aren’t you?

Jin_Sakai127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

Sunset Overdrive budget $42.6 million
Ratchet & Clank budget $81 million

And R&C was profitable. Even with nearly twice the budget.

“Update to the previous Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart sales thread: It was profitable. Sold 2,7m(as of roughly February 2022)”

https://www.resetera.com/th...

Outside_ofthe_Box126d ago

Jin, now why did you have to go ahead and ruin thesoftware730's day like that by posting facts? Smh

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Christopher127d ago

I mean, maybe because of market reach. But it wouldn't sell better than R&C or SM games. It was a fun game, but not as enjoyable as the others, IMHO.

ChasterMies127d ago

Dead Rising 3, Rise Son or Rome, the Titanfall franchise, and the Tomb Raider franchise were all hurt by Xbox exclusivity.

cammers1995126d ago

Exactly. Fuze and sunset overdrive. Both came to Xbox. Both failed. Hmm.

Knightofelemia126d ago (Edited 126d ago )

It was an exclusive because during that time Insomniac was not owned by Sony. Sony has to honor that contract or they will be forced to pay it out or go to court. No different then a Microsoft title being an Sony exclusive they have to honor the contract.

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mastershredder127d ago

"where Sunset Overdrive is concerned, the money the studio has made off it is quite negligible, to say the least."

I'm sure that big platform jump had nothing to do with it right? Pull a Rare, win Rare Prizes.

P_Bomb127d ago (Edited 127d ago )

Re. R&C and the 8 million, I wonder if hitting PS+ Extra hurt its legs? Good get for the service, but did it eat some sales?

FIELDMARSHALL_P127d ago

More than likely, but it could also make new fans that wouldn't have normally played the game buy the new one.

Hofstaderman127d ago

Same excuse XBOX fans use and look at whats happening to them and their preferred console...

Hofstaderman127d ago

I think it did. This highlights the pitfall of day one releases on sub services. I know R and C was not day one but it would have benefited from having more time to garner sales on its own steam.

Crows90126d ago

Learn to read. It didn't lose money. Read again.

P_Bomb125d ago

“Learn to read.”

I can read just fine professor. See yourself out 😤

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