Editorial: Admit It, You Want A Wii U For Bayonetta 2

It's only available on Nintendo's new console and given the outpouring of critical acclaim for this sequel, a whole lot of action lovers now need a Wii U.

[Snookies12]

Actually, for me personally the Bayonetta games never really appealed to me. Which is weird, because I'm a big fan of Devil May Cry.

I want a Wii U for Smash Bros. and Mario Kart. Those are my two big reasons for wanting one at the moment.

[elninels]

I want one for xenoblade chronicles x. And shin megami tensei x fire emblem.

[NewMonday]

Bayonetta, Zelda and X for me

also getting one for my nephew to play SSB and MK8

[marloc_x]

Recently bought my 2nd Wii U..

One for each Bayonetta ;)

[N4g_null]

Marloc_x I'm thinking about hooking one up in the car for the kids since it doesn't need a tv. Plus it would be great at tailgating parties! One small projector and wireless sensor bars and you have a 70 inch ultimate tailgate setup! I'm getting bayo2 not because I'm crazy about here actually character design I just love what she can do. Plus I get two games for one. Be sure to link all of your wiiu downloads to one account though. Then when the unified accounts come you have your whole library on all consoles. I have a ton of games too!

[Metallox]

I wanted one exclusively for Pikmin 3. But then Bayonetta 2, Super Mario 3D World, Xeno X, an open world Zelda game appeared and now maybe Splatoon and Wii U became a must for me.

[SmielmaN]

I got one for MK8, and Mario party but I played bayonetta on PS3 and I thought it was pretty awesome all around. Fun game. Can't wait to spend time with Bayonetta 2. I may be close to finished with Destiny so there may be a opening in my starting lineup haha

[KnightRobby]

I thought I would never want a Wii U, but now it has quite a bit of games. Mario Kart, Bayonetta 2, and the upcoming Zelda. And of course Smash Bros.

Now, Sony and Naughty Dog, where oh where is our Crash Team Racing? :)

[CervantesPR1]

as someone who is new to bayonetta and loves DMC (the old ones) i have to say bayonetta 2 DEMO is AMAZING bayonetta 2 has raised the bar. I got a wii u for smash mainly but after trying bayo 2 the game is no joke, your going to love it if you try.

bayonetta and dante actually make an awesome couple as well!

[N4g_null]

Bubble for great suggestion. Did you know you can play as an dude in the two player part of this game also? I would love to see a 4 player fighter like bayo2 two guys and two girls. Two player co-op per system game play. Each person with their own screen! The demo is pure 16 bit goodness infused into a high level of graphical creativeness. If you want to understand why we loved the 16 bit arcade era this game will show you that.

[kwandar]

Bayonetta doesn't appeal to me either, but I'm still getting it. Why?

Because the critics and scores indicate this is a "must have" and I've found many games like that, that I would not have otherwise played.

The secondary reason is that I want Wii U to have more mature games, and every purchase helps.

[infinitewords]

But I do have a Wii U for Bayonetta 2.

[DarkOcelet]

I want a Wii U because of Bayonetta 2, Xenoblade Chronicle X , Fatal Frame V , MK8 , SSB U , Zelda U etc etc etc . Honestly Wii U seems to be boasting the best line up for current gen consoles .

[Clover904]

Nintendo has some stellar title, no doubt. If there's a good Black Friday sale I don't think I'll be able to resist picking one up.

[DigitalRaptor]

The Wii U has the absolute worst lineup for current gen consoles.

If you're talking about strictly exclusives, fair enough you have a point when comparing exclusives, but when you're talking about the overall lineup, including third party games, that couldn't be further from the truth: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

To be clear, I'm a Wii U fan and already have Bayonetta 2 collector's edition on pre-order.

[LOGICWINS]

"It's a huge loss for PlayStation and Xbox as far as I'm concerned, and a huge gain for Nintendo."

How could it be a loss? You can only lose something you had to begin with. There was never a deal for a PS4/XB1 version of Bayonetta 2. Frankly, I don't see it as a big issue. Bayonetta 1 BARELY sold over a million units on the PS3(and not even a million on the 360). Both these consoles had a 150+ million userbase.

As good as the reviews were, Bayonetta as a franchise was never a sales monster. As a gamer, I welcome as many games on the PS4 as possible but its clear that Bayonetta 2(assuming PS4/XB1 versions existed) is a niche title and would have sold as a niche title is expected to sell....not a lot.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

Just because the first one was niche doesn't mean the second will sell the same in the west.[though admittedly the japanese sales were disappointing without something like Operation Platinum to spur them on]

It's a loss because it's a good game, not because of its sales potential or lack thereof, nor because it was never headed for the PS4 or XB-one.

Actually, let me rephrase that; it's a loss to the ones too stubborn to adopt a new system with a growing library of great games alongside of Bayonetta 2.

The ones who can afford to do so and choose to, instead of avoiding it for whatever justification outside of lack of funds[and seriously, if someone's finances are good enough to save up for a PS4 or XBone, why not the cheap-as-hell Wii U?], will be having a very grand time, because it only expands their gaming options to own more than one console.
Having at least one Sony or Microsoft console alongside a Nintendo console gives any gamer a much more well-rounded assortment of titles to choose from, for their gaming pleasure.

[GenericNameHere]

No, of course not. But even if Bayo 2 is a sequel, it's still a niche game. Doesn't help that unless you're a Mario game, Wii U games don't sell a lot. Do you really think Operation Platinum will help Bayo 2 sell over a mil? Be serious here. Maybe we should start an Operation Nintendo. That will clearly help it sell like the Wii used to!

Loss to the ones too stubborn to adopt a new system? Combined all three so far, that's only ~22M out of the ~260M install base of last gen. You're right. ~238M people are too stubborn to adopt a new system. Lack of funds? These people just either bought a $400 PS4, or $4/500 Xbox One. That's freaking expensive. Like you said, these people "saved up". Do you know what saving up means? It means they saved up money over long periods of time, and eventually spent it on something they like. I'm pretty sure rich people don't need to "save up" their money for $400, which would most likely be pocket change for them. If you're saving up money, that means you don't have the luxury of always buying things. If you think a $300 Wii U is cheap, PM me. I'd like one for Christmas for free.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

It has a better chance of making it sell out here than it had of doing anything for Japan, where Platinum traditionally doesn't sell well in any case.

Yes, a loss to the stubborn ones. If it weren't one, then there wouldn't be so much inane crying over its exclusivity.

And $300? Try refurbished deals on Wii U. $199.
And "just bought" a PS4 or XBone?
There are literally MILLIONS out there that have had their systems for quite a few months, which would be PLENTY of time to save up enough cash for a cheap Wii U.
If you think the Wii U is not cheap enough to save up for within a FAR shorter amount of time compared to a PS4 or XBone, then you either suck at budgeting or don't have a job.
If it's the latter case, you should be asking your parents/relatives to get you one; compared to convincing them to shell out $400+ for a PS4 or XBone, convincing them to get a cheap Wii U at $199 or less, especially around Black Friday, and saving it as a Christmas Present, would be a cake-walk.

There are too many so-called "fans" making too many excuses as to why they can't adopt a new platform for the sake of following the franchises they claim to love.

Oh, and as to your "If it ain't Mario, it doesn't sell on Wii U" comment?
Shovel Knight says do some more research. Their devs are quite happy with the turn-out from the Wii U version of that game, all things considered.

[N4g_null]

GenericNameHere has a point. Yet there is a solution. Electronic stores are hiring and if you are there long enough they give you a great discount. Logistics (ups, fed ex, even the post office) firms are hiring, Christmas is coming they will need the extra help. If you are a kid leaves are about to fall if they haven't already. Rake them up for a fee or promise services for $300. It builds character and there are a lot of old people that need your help. Trade in those hype games quickly. Snes games have risen in price so trade some in! Something tells me those games may get passed game play wise this gen! Plus there is the virtual console. If you are smart start tutoring those jocks for some serious cash and use PayPal also. Learn how to build a pc... seriously a child can do it now! It's really good money in pc repair or even just fixing the pcs in your neighborhood.

If you are an expert gamer online start a league and play for money. Please be sure that is setup by an adult and everything is far also. Announcements should go on mii verse. The election is coming up. Will they pay you for helping out, I'm not sure if anyone has ever really asked? I do know they have millions to spend!

Happy hunting I remember saving for my first consoles. Then pc, then house, then studio lol. Go forth young gamer and conquer the money monster!

[remixx116]

Well frankly with that statement he made you could easily spin it, "the last of us remastered is a huge loss for xbox 1 and wii u and a huge gain for playstation" or "forza horizon 2 is a huge loss for playstation and wii u and a huge gain for xbox".

In the end its not really a loss if it wasn't yours to begin with, its just another great exclusive for nintendo which is pretty typical of them.

[Ol_G]

They count it as a loss because the first game was exlusive to those platforms let's not play dumb here i have the same feeling with RE Revelations 2 first one was a 3ds exclusive then it got ported over and now the second entry in the series isn't even coming to Nintendo consoles that's what you call a loss not something you never had so using first party ip's in the discussion is useless

[remixx116]

@OI_G
Actually any exclusive, be it 1st party or 3rd can be viewed as a loss from the angle of discussion the article is implying. From my point of view I do not agree with that, I see something like the timed exclusive tomb raider xbox deal as a loss for other platforms, be it a small one.

This game barely sold on those other platforms it launched on so its not much of a loss to those console owners, what was it like 1.8 mil across 150+ mil devices. Not a bad game by any means but just under appreciated. Obviously the vast majority of those console owners do not give a damn about it and do not see it as a loss.

From the jump the sequel was nintendo exclusive, which was a gain for nintendo but not much of a loss for anyone else, from a perception of profit atleast. I wouldn't say I was playing dumb, I'm actually one of the few people using my head homie.

[Ol_G]

I can see where you're coming from with that reasoning and from a bussines standpoint you're right but from a gamers standpoint it's a loss for those who played the first and were hoping this game would be multiplat or come to their console of choice

[SmielmaN]

Meh, wouldn't matter about sales to me. Bayonetta was a pretty awesome game. Too bad so many ppl didn't give it a chance.

[remixx116]

Exactly my point its hard to "lose" it if people don't care about it but then again alot of amazing games get overlooked for the washout of overdone half bake yearly and bi-yearly releases. Kinda sucks but thats what happens and thats why most publishers will not support games like this and many developers will not make games like this, such is the industry.

[no_more_heroes]

Yes.

[Big_Game_Hunters]

Guilty as charged!!

[poppinslops]

It's true...

[feedurhabit]

I did buy a Wii U for Bayonetta 2. Just like I bought a PS4 for Infamous. And how I'll likely buy an Xbone for the Chief Collection, so long as 343 doesn't balls it up

[Majin-vegeta]

Uhh no

[Eonjay]

LOL represent for a difference of opinion! Personally, I want a Wii U, but not for this game.

[DrRobotnik]

I'm right there with you. I'll just let time bide until it's released with the definitive version on next gen. Now I know it was published by Nintendo, but if you were alive during the 90's, it was insane to even utter the words "sonic on a Nintendo console"...but here we are. As the great Ian Malcom once said, "...life finds a way."

[kwandar]

Wii U is next gen. It is in the current generation of systems.

Don't believe it? Look at how many 1080P 60fps games are already on the Wii U. Still don't believe it because its specs are not as good as a PS4? Then let me clarify something for you ...

.... none of X1, PS4 or Wii U are "next gen" ... because the true next gen console is the PC and Steam.

Really, this next gen argument is the dumbest thing I've heard. I buy games if the play/look good and are fund. Wii U's games fit that exactly.

[luis_spartano]

No, I'll forever pass.

[weekev15]

Thats a shame, you are missing out on some incredible experiences.

[ironfist92]

Wasnt a fan of Bayonetta so doesnt really affect me. Would rather have a DmC2

[VJGenova]

Meh. Too many games for me to care about this one.

[OmegaShen]

SSB beats, the first one was ok at best. There is far better games to get for the Wii U then this.

[360ICE]

I have sincere doubts that Bayonetta would have gotten this much press if it had been just another game on PS4/One.

It's great that it's great, but when I eventually get a Wii U, I doubt I'll be getting it.

[weekev15]

I think youre wrong. A game with a metacritic of91 would likely have got more press if it was on ps4/x1 because right now that doesnt exist apart from a remaster, it would be a big deal. For WiiU this is now the.second highest rated game behind mario 3d world and its only marginally ahead of Mario Kart.

[360ICE]

I don't recall the first Bayonetta, which has a Metacritic score of 90, getting much press in advance of its release at all. Obviously, you're right that games that score 90+ get their share of the limelight, but this has been fronted as part of the Wii U frontline pretty much since its announcement.

Seems like a smart move by both Platinum and Nintendo, in other words.

[weekev15]

I get what you are saying, but when the first Bayonetta there was a plethora of titles on both platforms that had released to critical acclaim. So far this gen we are waiting for the first title to really kick things off. Id argue that Bayonetta 2 is the first really compelling reason to own any of the 3 main consoles, depending on your tastes obviously.

If it had been exclusive to either of the other 2 there would have been a lot more hype as the marketing folks at Sony and MS seem to have developed a knack for overhyping everything, so imagine what they would do for a title that actually deserved it.

[360ICE]

You're misunderstanding. I agree that it would probably have stood out for PS4 users if it was a PS4 exclusive, or for Xbox One users if it was only on Xbox One. My point was that it wouldn't have stood out in the same way if it was another PS4/Xbox One multiplatform game.

Between the massive hype trains that have been Shadow of Mordor, Assassin's Creed: Unity, Dragon Age, Destiny, Alien: Isolation, FIFA, Madden, NBA, NHL, and the two console's exclusives like LBP3, Driveclub, Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Fable Legends and more, all of which are released within weeks of Bayonetta 2, do you really think that Bayonetta 2, as a multiplatform game, would have gotten the same amount of attention? There might not be that many games on the next-gen platforms yet, but this autumn has been as busy as any. PS4, for instane, saw PS Store sales reach an all time high in September.

I also disagree that Bayonetta is the first compelling reason to own any of the three consoles, exclusive or otherwise. Even the Wii U has several games already, MK8, Windwaker and Super Mario 3D World for instance, that would count as compelling reasons in my book. However, it does, as you say, come down to taste.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

If I didn't already own a Wii U, there'd be more than enough games for this to easily convince me that it was time to hop on.
I've also got a PS3 and an ASUS laptop, so I've got options coming out my ears.XD

[randomass171]

Gotta agree. I'm happy with my Wii U. I'm even happier with both a Wii U and a PS4. :D

[CertifiedGamer]

I could want the world and everything in it but unfortunately while I can afford a Wii U, time is the problem. I barely have time for my PS4 so how am I going to have time for another console.

[ZeekQuattro]

I've had the system since launch. I never played the first but loved the sequels demo. Needless to say I preordered the game shortly after said demo.

[PaleMoonDeath]

Nope, but that new Zelda game is mighty tempting.

[qwerty676]

"Editorial: Admit It, You Want A Wii U For Bayonetta 2"

nope sorry

i have 0 interest in this game.

[YodaCracker]

Agreed. I do not care for the genre AT ALL. I really could not have less interest in Bayonetta 2. The high scores did draw my attention (holy crap a 10 from GameSpot) but they did not make me want to play the game. If I had any interest in getting a Wii U, it would probably be for a new 3D Mario successor to Galaxy. Then again, after selling my Wii between Mario Galaxy 1 (which I absolutely loved) and its sequel, I was never compelled enough to buy another Wii for Galaxy 2, despite it being one of the highest-rated games of last gen.

[weekev15]

WiiU is backwards compatible. You should pick one up for 3D World (Champion Road is probably the most difficult Mario level ever made) and then pick up galaxy 2 while you are at it.

[talocaca]

I think it's a great game but not sure its a system seller.

I think Mario Kart, Smash Bros and a new 3D Mario/Zelda would make me wish I had one.

That's why I finally bought a new 3ds in Japan this week.

[ibrake4naps]

nope. Release both zelda and metroid and we'll talk.

[gamer7804]

I'll admit i bought a wiiu just for bayonetta when i heard it was exclusive, but thats definitely not the only reason to own one, i love having access to the iconic nintendo franchises, mario, zelda etc.

[64commando]

No

[Metallox]

Yes, but the real and main reason is Pikmin 3. Before its announcement I was skeptical about the console.

[OverlordEnel]

Everyone saying nope secretly still wants a wii u and Bayonetta 2,they're just in denial.

[N4g_null]

What this thread proves is this needs to be on the wiiu demo kiosks. Skill based videos need to be put up of smash and bayo2 on youtube. Hyrule warriors needs horse battles and maybe even capture the territory mp dlc!

Nintendo needs to make a battle edition mariokart 8 dlc.

Nintendo land needs to be pre-installed on every system along with the wii sports stuff.

Also nintendo land and others games should offer real limited time offered achievement that matter like rewards to free dlc or vc games or games. That would be the only achievement trophies that would matter to me.

[Indo]

Lol. I dont know why i have a Wii U except for the exclusives.

[fanboysmackdown]

Not into kiddie games so it's a big fat no, but Bayonetta 2 does look good.

[AKR]

I like it how people assume Nintendo's titles are "kiddie". Most of the titles Nintendo has released for the Wii U have been downright difficult. SM3D World, MK8 and Pikmin 3 come to mind; you really need a lot of strategy and patience to 100% games like those, and those are just a handful of examples.

Just because it isn't rated M - doesn't make it kiddie. "Kiddie" games are rated 'C'. Games rated 'E' are simply for everyone to play.

[fanboysmackdown]

As long as you enjoy it that's great. I don't see too many titles in the WiiU library that interest me.

[weekev15]

You forgot DKCTF that game is downright sadistic on normal then when you finish it they are like well done now.do it again on hard. I wqs like wtf that was hard....

[Big_Game_Hunters]

Wiiu has higher rated non kiddie exclusives than PS4/, xone lol. and now Bayonetta 2 is the highest rated non kiddie 8th gen exclusive game, that wont change anytime soon.

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

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PS4 T+ exclusives:
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

The facts are real.

[George Sears]

I didn't get it for a Bayonetta but it is a huge plus.

[aarondejohnson]

Show is alot of fanboys saying no because they wanna stick to there system of choice but me, I'm glad I own a wii u and xbox one so I can get bayonetta 2, smash bros, halo master chief collection, sunset overdrive.

[Ck1x]

If a person can't afford to be a multi console owner that's one thing. But the sheer crazy talk of when people say that they own both PS4 and XbOne makes no sense whatsoever! Yes they will both have their exclusives down the road that differentiate the systems, but they aren't here now. Also, Nintendo has to be the only console manufacturer where people state, "I can't justify buying a console for only one game. "

So you simply know that there will be only one game that you like on the entire console, in its lifetime? Then these people respond with something like, "Well I'm just not into Nintendo games..." Do posters that say stuff like this know how asinine you sound. That's just as bad as me saying that I hate all Disney movies and then someone asking me, "so how did you like the latest Avengers movie?" Then I reply, oh it was amazing, best movie ever!(A Disney Movie)

The same people want Nintendo to go 3rd party so bad. Why, if they only make 1 game that you like!

[MasterCornholio]

I agree with you.

I own a PS4 but I dont see any point to get an Xbox One because its almost the exact same thing as the PS4 but weaker which means I'll barely use it since most of what I play are multiplats.

The Wii U on the other hand has a tablet controlled that adds a unique experience to many games. Which is why I'm planning to buy one as a secondary system. I agree with people that its a shame that the Wii U isn't getting 3rd party support but I see no reason to buy a Wii U version over a PS4 version. The Wii U will only be for exclusives in my case.

[DualWielding]

I can't justify buying a console for just one game..... that's what general Nintendo fans don't get.... if you like all or most Nintendo games then the console may seem like a great deal for you, but lots of people only like one or two Nintendo franchise, for example, someone may like Zelda but no care about other Nintendo games.... so they end up annoyed because they want that one game but they can justify the price of the console only for one game.... With other consoles you don't have that problem because there's third party support so you don't depend solely on the output of the first party lineup of the console manufacturer...

[Ck1x]

But what I'm saying is, I myself would never pre judge all Sony games, because I haven't played all of them. Not to mention any new IP that may come out between now and the end of the consoles life. Don't get me wrong, I can totally value someone's opinion on this matter if they said hey you know I tried all those franchises and they just didn't appeal to me.

It's just a cop out when people lump all Nintendo games together in one file. Case in point, I bought a PS3 for Uncharted and Assassin's Creed. Then I played Infamous and absolutely loved that game, but it wasn't until I gave the game a chance and tried it though.

[kwandar]

I agree with you - I wouldn't justify on just one game (though I did buy an Atari ST just for Sundog- totally worth it).

As an old guy, I find more than enough to play on the Wii U. While I wasn't a fan of the Nintendo genre of games I found that I actually enjoyed many of them, once I got into them. (Zelda WW was great).

If Nintendo and others sees this genre sells on the Wii U, there will be more ... like Fatal Frame.

[Bronxs15]

I've put hours into the demo alone. Can't wait for bayonetta 2 to release.

I got wii u for a lot of the games listed above plus tropical freeze.

[theshredded]

I'm saving for a wii u because of this game!I don't know if having 3 functional consoles would be worth it

[Obscure_Observer]

I´m a X1 and PS4 owner. And i have no shame. I want it BAD! O.o

[mugcostanza]

Uh no.

[2pacalypsenow]

Nah..... I already got a wii u and I could care less about that game

[Jonny5isalive]

I really liked bayonetta on 360. I wish I had a wiiu so I could play this but I wont for a long time if ever.

[lonelyplayer]

I have a wiiu and i like bayonetta and all but.. I can wait for this one.

[R6ex]

I want Bayonetta but not the Wii U.

[MasterCornholio]

I saw it for the first time in person yesterday at a gamer expo. It looks great.

:)

[irokster]

The only game that would make me buy a WiiU is a full-fledge Pokemon RPG that expands on what the 3DS games offer now. I've always said that that kind of game would be the only reason I would buy a WiiU.

[Skylar]

I have a Wii U but couldn't care less about Bayonetta 2. Smash 4 on the other hand...

[tinkypop]

Got mine for Zelda/mario kart.
but Zombiu was the surprise for me.
Bayonetta 2 preorder now for over a year. gutted i missed out on 1st print.

[kwandar]

Now if we can get Fatal Frame :)

[tinkypop]

Been shameless begging on miiverse for fatal frame.
Nintendo seems to take more notice of miiverse.

[DualWielding]

yes I want one for Bayonetta, 3D World and DKTF but would not buy one just for 3 games...

[noxeven]

Id love to play bayonetta 2 since i enjoyed the first one but at the end of the day id rather wait till the wii u is 100 bucks if not lower

[kwandar]

Actually, I want a SECOND Wii U for my basement. And as soon as Nintendo unifies their online ID system so I don't have to buy games twice for the same system in my house, I'll be buying.

Bayonetta - not really my type of game at first view, but a game that highly rated deserves a place in my collection.

[belac09]

i do, and i will.

[DoggyBiscuit]

So many great games why not own a Wii U

[dubal-e]

Yea, I think he was speaking more to the Nintendo haters that like Bayonetta but continue to hate. They want it but their pride won't let them go out and buy a Wii U.

[pokynrocky]

I played the bayo2 demo and was pretty impressed because no two play through was the same. I mean fighting the end boss, some of the animation I got on my second play through differ from the first.probly cause I got better tho ;).it will add to the reply value plus I really wanted a better score.