DayZ creator Dean Hall talks about the pressure that Microsoft and Sony are both facing.
Icarus has just been announced for PC. The game features a survival meta, and it is being developed by the DayZ Developer,
The recent ARK: Survival Evolved price increase from $30 to $60 attracted the outrage of DayZ creator Dean Hall, who said this was "greed, pure and simple".
Been having fun with my friends on PS4 with this one. Bought it for 60 and gameshare with another comes with The Core and Scorched I'm happy with that. It's buggy but nothing game breaking for us. No game breaking client crashes, some hit detection and environmental interaction, a few gameplay related tweaks would be nice but I'm not holding my breath on some of those. There's a few Bugs and few UI issues every now and then but This is steadily getting better as time goes on.
I paid for the convenience of early access and glad I did. looking forward to the full release. I doubt I'm buying any additional DLCs though.
Done or not I say it's worth 60$ I'm def getting my money's worth playing for about 2-3 weeks now when not playing Paragon.
@xis
You bought this for $60?!?!
I bought it for $20 on pc with the DLC.
You got ripped off
Ark is $ 80 in Canada ,I was lucky to find a sale on psn back in march and the game was $ 50.
I enjoy ark ... but the game cost way to much and the servers are complete shit as in some days they are so bad you can't even play . Roll back and lag are excessive and I wouldn't recommend buy this game when it fully releases in August until there is confirmation that the servers have been fixed and stabilized.
Just to be clear, I do love this game when it works but since its an online only game it can be very broken at times.
I was looking at it, tempted to buy it at a much lower price during the Steam Summer Sale. Then I saw the flurry of negative reviews about how unfinished & unbalanced it is. That was enough to turn me off from picking it up until it's in a better state. ESPECIALLY at this ridiculous higher price.
And they're still charging extra for the Scorched Earth expansion pack. (although there's a 15% discount for buying it bundled w the game) -__-
While I don't know if I could defend Dean Hall, being that DayZ is basically dead in the water and was a huge thing for its time - that had so many promises and so little development where most people are just abandoning the game and grew so tired? That PUGB has become the game everyone who knows DayZ is just vaporware? Have all ran off to play PUGB because there's more promise in that game actually being completed. I feel Dean's opinion is moot, as he'd be comparable to Notch - a one-trick pony guy who did one thing, got successful, then he ran off.
As for ARK, it's an incomplete, unoptimized mess. It's as unoptimized as Crysis 1 was, while highly detailed? Highly unoptimized as well. The requirements and lack of efficient coding makes it so barely anyone can play it without having at least 32GB of RAM, am sure most run it all on Lowest settings and still only have 30FPS.
Ark is a bittersweet kind of game. Fun addictive gameplay, but terrible technical performance and balancing issues. Stay far away from pvp if you're solo or no friends to play. If you ask me, its worth the price if the issues are fixed.
I don't see what justifies the price increase other than unchecking the box that says Early Access and clicking on the one that says Version 1.0
The answer to your question...because it is getting released on consoles. Console gamers will always buy a $60 game that costs $10 (or free) on PC. It is why the gaming industry focuses on the console market because they buy without thinking.
Short answer: $$$$$$$
First your logic is really flawed. The game has been on consoles for a few years now. This price increase is because the release of Ragnorak and the fact when they tried to release the last DLC as a paid DLC and the community fought back so they are just increasing the price of the game to get around that.
Second your assumption console players buy without thinking is nonsense and you're just being an elitest. Lots of games on PC cost 60$ at release and PC is the reason consoles are dealing with microtransactions, early access and gamea as a service instead of a finished product your purchase. Third its also why consoles are having to deal with a digital only push that completely benefits producers and has very little benefit for consumers. Lastly the industry focuses on consoles because its simply easier and more cost effective to produce content for thus consoles get major attention. Its simple math.
Inclosing this is what happens when you pay for unfinished games, Ark, Rust, Dayz, Arma they all been in "development" "early access" for years and they will remain so for year to come, these devs keep making more content instead of actually working to finish there games.
So nobody will buy this on PC, because they are so great at thinking, eh? LOL. Get out with that garbage.
Well I'm a console gamer and I don't buy games at $60. I own a ps4 and I've only bought 2 games at full price. U4 and horizon. Actually I bought the collectors edition for those games. Usually I buy games when they go on sale. And I'm sure I'm not the only console gamer that doesn't always pay full price regardless of the platform he/she plays on.
@Kokyu
"PC is the reason consoles are dealing with microtransactions, early access and gamea as a service instead of a finished product your purchase."
I resent this statement. As I remember it, it was the consoles getting hard drives (i.e. Xbox 360 and PS3) and online services (Live and PSN) and having the ability to update games that created this whole microtransaction/DLC filled playing field we're on now.
PC had DLC and stuff like that for years and it never went full retard. It wasn't until the consoles had similar features to PC that all this shit started happening.
Thank you, console gamers support DLC and microtransanctions all the time, it was PC gamers that fought back against Deux Ex Mankind Divided microtransanctions while console gamers defend it and console gamers defend Star Wars Battlefront low gaming content.
That's garbage horseshite that Consoles are the sole reason for micro transactions taking off lmfao. I know pc gamers that have spent countless amounts of money on counter strike, team fortress, league of legends and overwatch just for goddamn hats and skins that used to be free mods in a not so distant ago past.
I pay 30 for games the day they come out. At the most. I have a hook up. I guarantee I get my console games for much cheaper then your steam sales. And I get them the day they drop. I payed 15 for Horizon the day it dropped. Battlefield 1 was free. Lol. Gotta love those hook ups.
i get all my games for free. is good to have friends that work for ESRB :)
Whatever, if you are which I doubt, then you are buying stolen games and that makes you worse.
When you say it that way it actually kinda makes sense. You buy an undeveloped game for a cheaper price (it is a gamble) and then the price increases when its more developed.
Sounds fair enough. It's like buying stock hoping you get something from it.
Anyways how can Dean Hall say anything. Wheres Dayz console version. Is the PC version finished, will it ever be finished? Dean Hall doesnt even work for the Dayz studio anyways.
I've enjoyed Ark a LOT on PS4 with some friends and I paid 50$ for it, which for me was money well spent! The games get deals all the time on the PS store, so just wait for the right timing and you'll get a great price.
At least, Ark is getting better very fast compared to DayZ
Ark hasnt improved at all, they just keep adding content without actually working to finish the game.
When I first got it on Xbox it was almost unplayable. Game previews get a 👎 from me. God forbid they released a finished game.
How do they get away with doing that? Isn't that 7 days to die also a early access game?
Isnt adding content finishing the game? If your talking about fixing bugs you should specify.
@psuedo
No, adding content in ARKs sense is adding stupid things like the scissors for haircuts, more 2 hours of throwing narco berries into the inventory for taming a dino, and never doing anything with the optimization, mechanics, leveling system, etc. Like just pile on more "idea guy" content without fixing the foundation or anything of relevance.
I don't think the price increase is fair for an unfinished game but the creator of one of it's competitors should not comment on it whatsoever, makes him sound jealous and petty...
Especially when so far he could not finish a single game for good. He abandoned DayZ and it's still only just reaching beta. Ion was canceled. Let's see where Stationeers ends up...
Agreed, Day Z may never get out of early Access. The early access idea sounded good on paper:
Gamers working with game developers to publish games that AAA publishers would not publish. Testing the game, informing the game developer of bugs glitches or technical issues. Giving game developers ideas or ways to improve game.
That was the idea behind early access but the reality is far from it.
The game is a POS,technical is a mess and they want the same price of AAA games.I would not pay 10cents for this POS,a real POS game in every sense of the word!
For many people, Dean Hall is synonymous with 2012’s free zombie mod, DayZ, which he created for Bohemia Interactive’s ARMA 2 while serving in the armed forces. The startling popularity of that mod led to it being officially acquired by Bohemia and to Hall himself working at the Czech Republic-based development studio on the standalone version of DayZ for two years, before leaving to found his own company in his native New Zealand.
RocketWerkz has since released Out of Ammo, co-developed abandoned title, Ion, and is now working on numerous other projects, including space-station simulation, Stationeers. Known for his outspoken and candid approach to discussing his work, his history and his experiences in the games industry, Dean Hall is also a keen mountaineer who has climbed Mount Cook and Mount Everest.
Here, he talks about drawing on his life experiences to help inform his design philosophy, his undiminished desire to tinker with other people’s games and how forums and bulletin boards can sometimes offer surprisingly profound revelations.
Dat Gamingbolt headline...
I'm sure as developers learn better ways to optimize their games and get more familiar with the hardware we will see some games approach that standard..
And so is it for the PS4, they have very few games that is both 180p AND 60fps. If the PS4 could do it so easily they wouldn't be pressuring ubisoft to keep games at 30fps.
..PS4 hasn't ran any demanding games at 1080p and 60f either.
Battlefield 4
Watch dogs
Assassins creed Unity
Shadow of mordor
...?
Even on the exclusive front, driveclub is 30frames, 1886 will be 30frames, second sons and shadow fall is 30f, unlocked 60f and sub1080p in multiplayer. You can't blame XO/multiplatform development here.
The PS4 isn't significantly better than XO spec wise, better nonetheless.
Does it?
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