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Nintendo Needs To Resurrect Older Series ASAP

Every time Nintendo releases a new Super Smash Bros., it’ll consume KC's life for more than a couple of weeks. During the time it takes for his hands to recover after playing 6-hour sessions, the question always crosses my mind as to why Nintendo has abandoned some of their franchises like an unwanted dog (he thought his master was taking him out for a game of fetch…). Super Smash Bros. is a huge hit, so it’s inevitable there’s an extended interest for some of these characters and series.

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Buff10443479d ago

Earthbound is a beloved game but I don't see it selling many consoles. A Pokemon MMO might, though.

Sly-Lupin3479d ago

I really, really, really doubt it. The main reason Pokemon games are successful is that they are really, really, really accessible. The games are sufficiently simple and straightforward enough that little kids can play them all the way through with little effort, but with enough hidden complexity to still appeal to older gamers.

And no matter what the online community may think, the main demo for Pokemon is and always will be little kids--the same little kids who feul the massive Pokemon franchise buy buying cards, toys, anime, etc. And that's not a demographic that has the disposable income to sustain an MMO subscription, nor is it a demographic that Nintendo will (ever) want interacting in a typical MMO environment.

That said, if anyone could make F2P MMOs work really well, even WITH the expected "restriction" of Mii-verse level censorship (though I actually think that would do more to help than harm) it would be Nintendo.

guitarded773479d ago

Oh god... could you imagine how heavy handed Nintendo would be in censoring an MMO? They won't even let gamers share their usernames directly through Miiverse. I get it, Nintendo has to remain kid friendly (accessible), but they should do that through console settings and not policing Miiverse so heavily.

On Topic: People have been asking for reviving old IPs for a while now. I guess they doing something by bringing Kid Ic to 3DS and the new Star Fox in the works for Wii U, so at least there is something going on. All I know is I'm ready for my Zelda gameplay, and a Metroid U announcement. A new console Kid Ic could be awesome though.

pcz3478d ago

i dont see what the obsession is with people and sequels. it doesnt give rise to originality... all it does is breed over familiarity.

i would like to see nintendo produce new ips. i would like nintendo to stop hopping on the sequel bandwagon that has the entire entertainment industry in a choke hold. i mean, if studios dont take risks with new ideas, you will ultimately end up with the same games year in year out but with a new lick of paint.

what will happen eventually is the industry will crash, because people will become bored and the market will be over saturated with games that are identical.

marloc_x3478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

Splatoon looks solid.

There is also a massive demographic of young people that have never experienced Nintendo's old stuff,(those that play the re-hash card are getting older and older),

and that being said, the ips have been mixed up in games that are fairly unique in most every different game.

An iteration once per gen sure beats spamming every year..no?

pcz3478d ago

@morloc

''There is also a massive demographic of young people that have never experienced Nintendo's old stuff,'

just imagine if the film industry had the same attitude as the games industry. yes there is always a new generation, but that doesnt mean you have to keep remaking the same film every few years. how many times have the all time classic films been remade? maybe once or twice. and we are talking since film began!

with gaming its now a once every generation occurrence. the industry isnt producing anything new, its merely relaunching the same games as it did last gen. and if its not remakes, its sequels. i'd say 80percent of all major games right now in the games industry are sequels. its not healthy.

nintendo are not the only offenders, but since we are talking about 'the need to resurrect older series' then i will talk about nintendo. with nintendo in particular you have the games they will remake without fail each gen- mario, zelda etc yes there are fans of these games, and nintendo can bank on these games as safe bets due to their popularity, but what about our experience?

i want to play new games featuring new characters, new stories in new universes. as much as i like mario and zelda, i have followed them to almost all the possible locations they can travel within their universes. i have heard all the stories their worlds have to tell. i would like something... new.

splatoon isnt doing it for me, to me splatoon doesnt seem like a wholehearted attempt at something new. more of an experiment.

imagine if nintendo launched a new ip bigger than zelda... with characters, worlds etc more rich than zelda... that is exciting!

as long as we keep begging nintendo to resurrect old games, and insist on a games industry build around cloning and paying homage , that will never happen.

marloc_x3478d ago (Edited 3478d ago )

Valid points. The sad thing is, any new ip will be an experiment as to return on the dollar.
It seems Nintendo has been able to look past that concerning collaborations with Platinum and Valhalla Studios and at the same time breaking some trends.

Some gruesome fun encouraged by Nintendo themselves :)

p.s. - a morloc is an ugly sob from an H.G. Wells novel, HaHa!

eworthington03479d ago

As much as I would love an 3D, HD remix of the mother trilogy on wii u, it would do much better on a 3ds.
But I dont see Nintendo touchin that for a while if ever.

Sly-Lupin3479d ago

Personally, I'd rather see new games and new IPs.

Ideally, I'd like to see Nintendo either make its own or purchase the rights to Dragon Quest. That kind of timeless, classic RPG is the one big thing Nintendo's catalog is missing.

deafdani3479d ago

Well, Nintendo already has Xenoblade Chronicles and the upcoming Xeno Chronicles X. There's that.

The first one was a superb JRPG, and my favorite game of the last generation. Because of this, Xenoblade Chronicles X for Wii U is my most anticipated title of 2015. Yes, even more than Zelda.

brando678543213479d ago (Edited 3479d ago )

splatoon? you know, the one with squids shooting colored ink? https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Sly-Lupin3479d ago

@Deafdani: Xenoblade and Dragon Quest are both RPGs, but it's a very broad genre. The hole that I think needs to be filled is the "open-world fantasy RPG" where you create your own character instead of play a pre-defined role. Who knows: maybe this is what they'll end up turning Zelda into.

@brando: What are you trying to say, exactly? What does Splatoon have to do with anything?

brando678543213479d ago (Edited 3479d ago )

"Personally, I'd rather see new games and new IPs." You asked for new IP's and THAT is a new ip.

N4g_null3479d ago

Yeah this is the gen to flood new ip. The dev teams are combined. There are other teams like the splatoon team.

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KillerResistance3479d ago

FOR GOD SAKES! MAKE A NEW IP FOR ONCE IN 10 YEARS NINTENDO! MAKE A NEW SERIES!

crusf3479d ago (Edited 3479d ago )

Tokyo Crash Mobs
Harmoknight
Dillon's Rolling Western
Ketzal's Corridors
Sakura Samurai
Pushmo/Crashmo
Freakyforms
Fluidity
Nintendo Land
SiNG Party
The Wonderful 101
Steel Diver
Snowpack Park
Eco Shooter
The Last Story
Pandora's Tower
FlingSmash
Wii Party
Xenoblade
Bonsai Barber
Rock N' Roll Climber
Pop-Up Pursuit
ThruSpace
AquaSpace
You, Me, and the Cubes
Splatoon
Not enough for you?
Stop complaining about lack of IP's they exist.

InTheZoneAC3479d ago

you just mentioned only 1% of the shovelware games nintendo has available..

KillerResistance3479d ago

now name all the series that actually became a HUGE hit and is Triple AAA title

crusf3479d ago (Edited 3479d ago )

@ to the two above
You complained about wanting new IP's I gave em to ya.
Also "The Last Story" shovelware srslylol

KillerResistance3478d ago

most of those are like indies and r u sure all of them were made FROM nintendo? I meant titles made from Nintendo like Mario, Zelda, Metroid.

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deafdani3479d ago

If you only look at a game if it's "a HUGE hit and is Triple AAA title", then you're missing out on too many damn good games.

Out of the list that crusf put above, I can personally say that Wonderful 101 and Xenoblade Chronicles are spectacular games with nothing to envy to any big budget western release.

A basic Xenoblade Chronicles playthrough will run you at least 70 hours, and that is if you ignore its sidequests.

Wonderful 101 is Platinum Games' most expensive and longest game to date (a hack n' slash game that logs in at about 25-30 hours is INSANELY long, not to mention that it's a lot of pure fun).

Regarding the rest of the list, some of these games are pretty good, even if they are smaller titles.

Expand your horizons, man.

Geekman3479d ago

Not to mention the internet trashes every triple AAA game after release and nothing will convince them that it doesn't suck.

Scissorman823479d ago

Startropics. For all that is good and just in this world: Startropics.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10111d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref10d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde10d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197210d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville10d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218310d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos10d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai11d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref10d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan10d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis0079d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197211d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref10d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde10d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197210d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197210d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier10d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto10d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218310d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto10d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman10d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts10d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts9d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic10d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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Nintendo's War Against Player-Made Content Will Hurt The Company In The End

Danish from eXputer: "Nintendo has historically gone against player-made content and emulation of its games. This has done much to harm the company's image."

XiNatsuDragnel17d ago

I agree nintendo hire some these folks to help in your games it'll help imo.

banger8816d ago

They need to stop announcing these mods and fan remakes until they're finished. Finish it, upload it, and then if Nintendo dmca's it tough shit. Once it's online, people can share it around, even if the original download gets taken down.

Jingsing16d ago

True, but most modders need constant admiration during the process to motivate them.

PRIMORDUS16d ago

Yup, once it's a torrent nothing can be done Nintendo is helpless at that point. But it would be wise if they just had a site on the dark web, it's also easy to use with Tor and no one will bother you.

mastershredder16d ago

This is all coming from the mouth of short-sighted fandom and grifting madness.
No.... it wont. There is a clear defined reason why they don't. This is nothing new. Make your own shi7 from your own original ideas especially if you are trying to capitalize of it it. Duh.

Yeah, hire people that have zero respect or understanding for an established process. Wow. Yep. Totally makes sense.

shinoff218316d ago

Those guys that made that sonic game got a gig from sega or something along those lines and that game was dope as hell. One of the best sonics as of late.