Killer Instinct 720p vs. 900p Screenshots Show That The Resolution Makes A Big Difference

Killer Instinct has received a new patch with the launch of its Season 2, which bumps the resolution of the game from 720p to 900p. This is quite a big jump for the game, which was a launch title for the Xbox One.

[mandf]

Resolution always makes a difference.

[u got owned]

To be fair the lighting and the contrast look different on both screenshots and that doesn't have anything to do with resolution. So the comparison its not 100% accurate.

Anyway, why is this game not running @ 1080p I mean the game isn't pushing any standard on graphics.

[mandf]

I do agree with your point about the resolution. I was just pointing out a extra 500,000 pixels or so adds detail to the overall picture.

Why it's not 1080p, I have no clue. I do believe the xbox1 is capable of 1080p in a fighting game. I think the developer is not on par coding as some developers.

[Dudebro90]

My guess is that it comes down to polish time. The first game shipped on those SDK's that were really rough, plus it was made in under a year.

Season 2 has said to have a similar dev time meaning that time spent is not on optimizing the resolution, but frame rate

[mhunterjr]

It may not be a graphical powerhouse, but there is a ton going on on screen, and every frame matters tremendously. Season 1 was developed in a very short time frame, on a nebulous sdk, and they prioritized frame rate and gameplay over all else.

Now they got to 900p by tweaking existing code. No doubt legacy code makes pushing to,1080p difficult.

[4Sh0w]

Gearnuke should try getting screenshots with the same lighting, I can't see the difference otherwise, hell Id say the new Mortal Kombat X is a lot more of a graphical powerhouse but then the game isnt about realistic graphics and blood and gore in the same sense as Mortal Kombat which I believe is at 1080p 60fps on both. No this game is artistic with twitch action combos. So I think this is just the devs choice with a short dev time they prioritized framerate and rock solid net code, that said it looks great and plays even better since it launched.

[TheXgamerLive]

Here's my honest view on graphics/gameplay. As long as its at least 720p HD which upscaled to 1080p and a locked solid framerate of 30 fps or better then I'm Happy.
When I play I don't put 2 monitors or TV together and compare. I become immersed and enjoy the game.
Many multiplats actually look better on Xbox One so to say its all about Rez is so wrong.

Gamers that blindly argue for ONLY 1080p are ignorant fanboys that aren't even thinking or knowing what's truly going on.
Argue about Rez and you'll miss what beauty the game beholds in front of you.

[aftershock]

@Xgamer yeah except for the fact that NO multiplaform game looks better on x1 than ps4. Nice try though

[Khronikos]

Less than 1080p is not acceptable to me sorry. Don't even try going 720p on me. I didn't just shell out 500 plus, for PS4 and extra stuff, to play at resolutions that are a decade old. SORRY not apologizing for that.

[Dannyh]

Khronikos. You are missing out on games if you wont play 720p. evil within is only 720p on ps4 and is one of the best game's I played all year

[Skizelli]

Looks like they had to sacrifice some background artifacts for that extra 180p.

[DevilOgreFish]

Before
http://i2.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

After
http://i0.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

It looks better, better lighting and the addition of bloom effects too.

If anyone is wondering about the object missing in the background, the environments can be effected. http://youtu.be/VHVn3N-OTns...

[aceitman]

@mhunterjr they got to 900p using the new 10%updated sdk to devs ,so there not using old code.

[Skizelli]

@DevilOgreFish

I stand corrected. I've played the game quite a bit, but that never even occurred to me. Thanks for pointing it out.

[Ben Dover]

@Dannyh

Uhm what? The Evil Within is 1080p on the PS4. Why do you make up stuff?

[internationterrorist]

mandf@ u got owned@

Half of the IGN LIST of resolution of games on x1 are below 1080P. Why would anyone with common sense be surprised. That X1 can't run Killer instincts at 1080P 60fps. The only game that envy runs 1080P 60fps on x1 is Diablo 3 . Diablo III is a 3 year old 3D top down game . Microsoft had to help get Diablo 3 to achieve 1080P 60fps and it drops frame In the 50s. I very much doubt that x1 can run a next gen game at 1080P 60fps.

4Sh0w@

Mortal Kombat X is not 1080P 60fps on x1 . The developers are Targeting 1080p, 60fps On PS4, Xbox One.
Is just more P.R talk from developers. This is the way developers get out of controversy of lower resolutions on x1. The developers just say targeting and delivery on PS4 1080P and 900p on XBO.

Dannyh@

What are you talking about? The evil with in is not 720p on PS4. The Evil with in is 1080P on PS4 and 900p on x1. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[internationterrorist]

Half of the IGN LIST of resolution of games on x1 are below 1080P. Why would anyone with common sense be surprised. That X1 can't run Killer instincts at 1080P 60fps. The only game that envy runs 1080P 60fps on x1 is Diablo 3 . Diablo III is a 3 year old 3D top down game . Microsoft had to help get Diablo 3 to achieve 1080P 60fps and it drops frame In the 50s. I very much doubt that x1 can run a next gen game at 1080P 60fps.

[mixolydian_id]

Because it is killer instinct... People will disagree... But it's such a fun game... How many p's doesn't make a fricking difference.

[Dannyh]

internationterroris and Ben Dover . I wasn't making anything up. It was what I read on line last night but now I see that the report was wrong. I can say I was wrong

[memots]

LOL

[4Sh0w]

internationterrorist
"The only game that envy runs 1080P 60fps on x1 is Diablo 3 . Diablo III is a 3 year old 3D top down game ."

-Did you even look at the list or are you just trolling for the hell of it, from the IGN list you are referring to even if you don't count the "targeted" games that are not out yet then its more than Diablo 3 at 1080p 60fps:

Forza 5 1080p @ 60fps
FIFA Soccer 14 1080p @ 60fps
Minecraft 1080p @ 60fps
Outlast 1080p @ 60fps
NBA 2K14 1080p @ 60fps
Skylanders SF 1080p @ 60fps
Sniper Elite 3 1080p @ 60fps
http://www.ign.com/wikis/xb...

-True most ps4 games are 1080p but most are NOT 1080p *AND 60fps so that's not really just something you can knock X1 only for, I mean other than the games above ps4 has a few more 1080p @60fps games but most are games like Flower, Resogun maybe MGS Ground Zeroes is the only graphics intensive game thats 1080p @60fps on ps4 and not X1. Ironically if every game could achieve Ryse graphics at 900p on X1 I'd take it vs those games or Outlast for example http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... graphics at 1080p on X1 yet it doesn't look anywhere near as good as Ryse http://www.justpushstart.co... All things being equal 1080p is of course better but 1080p does NOT = best graphics.

Also its a fact that more games are hitting 1080p on X1 since the SDK update and it takes time for devs to actually use the bump in resources, depending on time and budget some won't bother but going forward obviously it will only get better, that said neither console is a high end pc, I mean FH2 and Driveclub chose 1080p 30fps not because they hate 60fps but because it was a choice to balance beautiful visuals with great performance, hell even pc's have their limits. PS4 is more powerful but just because some devs don't bother to take the time or money to optimize X1 or decide to just get the game out regardless of more room for improvement like Golf Club for example on X1 that isn't a indication of what the hardware is capable of, its like saying last gen that if a dev drop the ball and didn't bother to make a simple arcade game run as well on ps3 as on 360= OMG ps3 must be too weak to run this game.

[GameNameFame]

4show you are just desperate fosure

PS4 is mostly all 1080p with few exception. X1 is mostly less than 1089p

Even fate sdk we still got games coming under. Continues pattern of lower visual. How is that not an indication? Lol

Dev that dropped a ball? Lol so all devs including MS's own just happen to drop ball this gen for x1.

Yup you desperate fosho

[MarkusMcNugen]

900p should be a minimum standard for all Xbox One and PS4 games. 1080p optional. 720p upscaled to 1080p looks awful in comparison to 900p or trueHD 1080p.

Yes, I own an Xbox One. 900p on my Samsung LED 1080p 52" TV looks great. 900p on my gaming PC monitor looks awful. I'm assuming because of size, viewing distance, and a much higher pixel density.

900p console minimum.
1080p PC minimum.

Those are my preferences. Hate them or like them if you choose.

[Unspoken]

Can someone tell these armchair game developers to go into technical depth on how this game is being coded and optimized and on what engine?

Constantly repeating "lazy developers", "this should be 1080p"... yet you are too lazy to explain why?

As for the rendering resolution about The Evil Within on PS4, no it is not 1080p:

"Resolution is the first order of business: the developer opts for an extra-wide aspect ratio, presumably in order to reduce the games' rendering load - though HUD elements are displayed in this region. Based on what's rendered inside the letterbox, however, we're left with a 1920x768 resolution on PlayStation 4 and a meagre 1600x640 on Xbox One. In effect, it's the now-familiar 1080p vs 900p set-up here, but the intrusive borders serve to cut-down actual rendering resolution significantly. Only 71 per cent of the screen's real estate is actually used for gameplay - and the aspect ratio utilised is actually a higher 2.5:1 rather than the 'cinematic' 2.35:1."

[VegasDawg]

How do you know this? Where did you get you degree? Or you just pulling crap out of you arse.

[Double Toasted]

@aftershock..."yeah except for the fact that NO multiplaform game looks better on x1 than ps4. Nice try though"

Looks like you're wrong, lol. There is a little slice of irony too if you look closely. 😜

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[Gazondaily]

"Resolution always makes a difference."

Especially on the internet.

I don't really see a massive difference apart from the contrast but I guess you'll notice differences in motion as opposed to pictures.

[mandf]

Septic

I know you're not a crazy fanboy, but you just bought a new console that is being marketed as a hd console. Don't you want the full hd experience? Either the console is capable of it or isn't it.

I do know some developers aren't capable of it. But almost all games on a competing console are 1080p native ( all except 4 of a 128 games). Resolution matters or we wouldn't buy new consoles. Since Atari evry new gen has always been about resolution boost. Now all of a sudden resolution doesn't matter. Please explain to me.

The xbox one focused on the os rather then game hardware. It doesn't make it a bad system nor does a 900p or 720p make it a bad game. We already did those resolutions last gen. Gamers shouldn't be ridiculed or made out to be fanboys because they care about resolution. Resolution matters because of the level of detail a picture retains instead of being upscaled.

I know there are a lot of fanboys that will use a resolution to make your system of choice to seem inferior, it's childish but this all could have been avoided if the internet didn't move the goal posts gen from gen.

The best console has the best games regardless of sales, social features, and superior graphics. But don't you dare say resolution doesn't matter we all care. Not all of us like the results of resolution arguement. Regardless a good game is a good game 720p or 1080p or 8bit.

Goalposts were moved this gen because some of you don't like the results. Septic I know you love games but please rethink your position.

[Gazondaily]

"Septic I know you love games but please rethink your position."

Mate, what position is that? I have always said resolution is important. Just for reference, look at my views in my article below:

http://www.gameondaily.com/...

The internet has blown it out of proportion mind you. Obviously, with the way the platform rivalry works, one side will leverage any little advantage over the other. That exacerbates the situation here. But yeah, resolution is important. It's just not as important as people make it out to be.

[vallencer]

@mandf

Resolution is nice don't get me wrong. However all I have to say is minecraft and a lot of indie games. Minecraft easily isn't the best looking game yet it has sold millions. Then there's a lot of indie games that don't have a high resolution or are graphically amazing that sell really well. Super time force is just one. I honestly don't care if the resolution isn't 1080p. As long as it's hd that's good enough for me. But I've always been in the minority to value game play over graphics anyway. But like I said resolution is nice but I'd rather this gen focus on new innovative things in games since they have more power. More power doesn't have to mean super amazing graphics.

[MarkusMcNugen]

@mandf

"I know you're not a crazy fanboy, but you just bought a new console that is being marketed as a hd console. Don't you want the full hd experience? Either the console is capable of it or isn't it."

I suggest you look up what HD resolution is. Consoles have been HD since last gen...

http://www.wikiwand.com/en/...

[Hanuman]

These comments above are a really good read. Nice to see y'all are getting along for a change. My point of view; 900p30fps should be the bare minimum.

[ThePope]

I don't know if anyone has ever disagreed with that. More pixels is more pixels. The numbers don't lie. But is all the uproar over the difference between 1080p and up scaled 900p worth it?

My favorite thing on this subject was the comparison between AC:BF. It was a zoomed in shot of the guys pants and that oscillated quickly back and forth. If that's what it takes to see the difference. Its not worth the craziness that surrounds the subject.

[SilentNegotiator]

"I don't know if anyone has ever disagreed with that"

Are you new here?

http://n4g.com/news/1603257...
He's just one example of someone arguing that native resolutions are matched by upscaled resolutions unless the textures are different qualities. Apparently, they have no idea what aliasing is and think that upscaled resolutions are created EXACTLY the same way.

[s8anicslayer]

But people will downplay the whole resolution gate saying that there is no difference between 1080p vs 900p, but they can see the difference between 700p and 900p because it's from the same camp.

[ThinkThink]

One seems quite a bit brighter than the other but other than that I don't see a difference.

[Mithan]

Not really, depends how much.
720 to 900p? Big difference, especially up to about 50" screens. 900p to 1080p? Less, unless on bigger screens.

[Godz Kastro]

Wasnt the first season 1080p? I have it and I dont see how much clearer it can get.

[CYCLEGAMER]

My point exactly! I wouldn't be shocked that the people who are commenting on the resolution of this game dont even own it, they are just judging how the game looks based on what they are hearing or being shown over the internet. The game is and has always looked great and clear.

This whole resolution thing is completely blown out of proportion by fanboys, and I noticed this as soon as I turned on my PS4 and XB1 in November of last year.

[VealParmHero]

well, yes, it is obviously going to be better with a higher res. But this seems to have more enhancements than a simply res buff. Kind of misleading. The whole thing looks different...blacks in particular

[CYCLEGAMER]

I ACTUALLY OWN the game and did not notice any difference in quality and graphics of the game, the game still looks as good as always.

[brads4]

Law of diminishing returns applies as the resolutions get larger and larger. 720 vs 900 is a bigger gap than 900 vs 1080. Very different.

[SquillieDeeWilliams]

@ Kronikos, you don't have to worry one bit... You can't play KI on PS4 , your good...

[neoandrew]

Not really, to a degree in games, you can bump resolution even to 4k on pc, but it still won't give you an ultra realistic look, you need better algorithms and a lot more of computing power to actually make it look a lot better, simple resolution bump just can't gibe you that.

Here it is, a 720p pictures of soldiers

http://i.imgur.com/aPzNARD....

http://i.imgur.com/q1GAdmi....

Even the most powerful pc and most realistic game can't render at this level of quality, even in 4K, still those are only 720p.

If i would have to choose i would choose 720p with that graphics...

[Azzanation]

Dont be fooled, theres more to this patch then the resolution upgrade. Goes to show that games can change resolution after release. Good to see Killer Instinct looking better over time

[stuna1]

Or better yet, now it makes a difference! /s

[3-4-5]

720 to 900 makes a bigger difference than 900 to 1080p though...

So if an XB1 game has a slightly less good resolution....it's just not going to matter.

What is noticeable is the change from 720 to 1080 though.

[user5669510]

yep it always does unless we're talking about 4k then we have to make up every excuse and downplay who ever is able to play these games at that res. let only recognize our advantages and act like 1080p is new and act like new technology is no big deal.

[Back-to-Back]

So the upped a last gen resolution to the one of the lowest passable resolutions for next gen. This is so Microsoft to do.

[THamm]

Umm no 1080p due to lazy devs. I recall something about that being the reason for pew 2015 not too long ago...

[Spotie]

Unless you own an XB1, apparently. Then it doesn't matter.

...until a game has the same resolution as the PS4 version, that is.

For the rest of us, they may not be the most important thing, but they still matter.

[Bennibop]

I have to agree that resolution makes a difference. I am using a 4k tv to game on and have my PS4 plugged and until recently had my X1 also plugged in. Unfortunately have had to move x1 as upscaled 720p and some 900p images just don't look good.

[VegasDawg]

@internationterrorist--Thats the most ignorant thing I've seen a fanBOY say, get a clue. You can't be that dumb...lmao.

[Torque_CS_Lewith]

720 - 900 is a bigger leap than 900 - 1080 visually despite the 180 differences in both.

[Neonridr]

incorrect:

720p = 1280 x 720 = 921,600 pixels

900p = 1600 x 900 = 1,440,000 pixels

1080p = 1920 x 1080 = 2,073,600 pixels

720p --> 900p = difference of 518,400 pixels

900p --> 1080p = difference of 633,600 pixels

[the_dark_one]

just did the same right now :D

[Volkama]

Edit: Way too slow!

[nicksetzer1]

Too bad you math is wrong. Pixel count is the wrong comparison to make. (Unless you are just a blind fanboy pushing an agenda) resolution, as well as almost ALL visual assets, is affected by the law of diminishing returns. Ignoring that doesn't make it reality

First, we already know the human eye can much more easily distinguish 720p-900p than 900p (not to mention the upscaler on ALL games) to 1080p. The more dense the pixels are at the lower end the bigger impact it has. For example you could saying going from 1080p to 1280×2160 is a HUGE jump as well going by total pixel count, but in comparison the increase is not as noticable because the % change is small. Just the same 480p to 720p is HUGE but the total pixel increase is very small.

Second, Pixel fill ovbiosuly grows exponentially as it is a square function. What actually should be compared is the % of growth. In which case 720-900p is much larger. The % increase is 56% vs 44%.

Lastly, IQ is MUCH more than just resolution you can easily have a 1080p image that looks more jaggy than a 900p image, especially when it comes to gaming. Aliasing, antistropic filters, shading and many other things become much more important when you reach certain reaolutions.

Is 900p better than 1080p? Certainly. Is it a HUGE difference? No. Is it a bigger difference than 720p-900p? No.

[Mithan]

Your ignoring screen size and other factors. Raw numbers dont matter.

[Azzanation]

There isnt much difference to the eye from 900p to 1080p. Even though theres a bigger gap in pixels, its no different in trying to see the difference between 80, 000 polygons and 100, 000 polygons. Diminishing returns starts to kick in past 900p.

[rainslacker]

The noticeable difference may be less on a smaller screen, so what he said isn't entirely inaccurate. On bigger screens though, it's pretty apparent.

In this case, what nick says is probably the best to go buy...at least in the pixel density case. On a bigger screen, the pixels are less dense, so the difference, no matter the percent, becomes more important the bigger the screen gets.

[iiorestesii]

How did he get disagrees??? ROFL

[jetlian]

Wrong neon 720 to 900 is a 56 percent increase vs 900 to 1080 which is a 44 percent increase.

How to get that answer divide 518400 by 921600. Then do 633600 by 1440000

[Anonagrog]

As well intended as your comment was, it doesn't make sense to compare the differences in resolutions by looking at just the increases in pixel count. The way pixel count increases with resolution is an exponential relationship, not a linear one. As such:-

An increase from 720p to 900p represents a 56% increase in number of pixels.

An increase from 900p to 1080p represents a 44% increase in number of pixels.

If we remove subjectivity from this and qualify a "bigger leap... visually" as being gauged on just pixel count, then the jump from 720p to 900p does actually provide the "bigger leap".

edit:- Ah, it seems others already made this point further below.

[the_dark_one]

1280*720=921600
1600*900=1440000
1920*1080=2073600

2073600-1440000= 633600
1440000-921600=518400

So no 720p to 900p isnt a bigger leap the 900p to 1080p

[Neonridr]

lol, great minds think alike.

[starrman1985]

He did state visually, rather than literally. I think he meant if you look at a 720p game and then a 900p game your eyes will notice more of a difference than looking at a 900p game compared to a 1080p game.

[Neonridr]

@starrman1985 - I guess I can agree to that. Although realistically, unless you are playing from a mere couple feet away, going from 720-900 or 900-1080 is probably a lost cause. At 10+ feet away from your TV that sort of upgrade will be negligible at best..

[aquamala]

@starrman1985 720p->900p feels like a bigger difference because it is

720p->900p is 56% increase in pixels
900p->1080p is 44% increase

[Deathdeliverer]

To people with smaller televisions the resolution won't matter. That's the only way I can understand people saying it's not a big deal between 1080,900, and any other "p". I see the difference immediately. I talked about how rough killer instinct looked on my TV (all of which over 60", 3d, and one 4k) and the thought I was trolling. I will always welcome a higher resolution version if there is one available.

[Neonridr]

That's a good point aquamala, didn't realize that. Well said.

[No_Limit]

Resolution from 720 displaying on a standard 1080p screen up to 52 inch is going to look way worst than a 900p resolution moreso than from a game viewing from 900p to 1080p because the max resolution is set at 1080p....and can't go any higher. 900p and 1080p, there will be less noticeable difference because the current standard is capped.

[Alsybub]

You need to take into account the native resolution of the display. Most tvs are 1920x1080. 900p is a lot closer to the native resolution than 720p and so the difference will be less perceivable to the eye of the viewer the closer to native the resolution is. Do you actually think that a 4k image on a 1080p display would look better? Because that would have to be true for the argument that more pixels is always better. The RIGHT number of pixels is best and the closer you are to it the better the picture.

Also, the best resolution for any screen is native. If you have a 720p display the image will be better set to that than 1080p. A lot of people would say that to them 1080p downscaled on a 720p screen looks better to them but that would be because the jagged edges from downscaling would give a false impression of increased sharpness which is actually a worse image. Then again a lot of people think that the crushed blacks of high contrast, the over exaggerated colour and halo effect from stupidly high sharpness you get on a tv out of the box is good too, so the battle is already lost most of the time.

Another thing to think about with 4K displays is that 1080p upscaled to 4k cannot possibly look better than a high end 1080p display with the same image. If it's not the native resolution of the display then it isn't right. You cannot add detail between pixels and so each pixel is stretched across the additional pixels of the display. It may be perceived as sharper by the viewer if they don't have a frame of reference against a correctly calibrated 1080p screen of high quality.

At the end of the day it comes down to the viewer. A lot of people think the bluish tinge of most LED screens is better than reference colour but then they have no idea of what reference colour is to begin with.

Sorry for the rant. It's just that so many people talk about resolution but how many of them have a professionally calibrated, high quality screen to truly get the benefit of it. I truly believe that the display is as important as the image you're putting on it. All the pixels in the world can't make a crappy TV better and price and brand do not make one TV better than another, they're all different and when you buy a new TV you really have to do your homework to find the best image quality for the money at the time and never let a sales person tell you what's best. They're the same people that will tell you a $100 hdmi cable is better than a $10 one or that Beats headphones are worth the price tag but that's a whole other argument.

One last thing, most tvs don't tend to do a very good job of displaying anything other than their native resolution, even really expensive ones. So, to some, 720p will seem much worse than 1080p than to others who have a screen that actually does a good job with a non native image.

[Godz Kastro]

Ezzz, your a troll...nuff said.

[XabiDaChosenOne]

lol do you not have a calculator?

[VegasDawg]

Don't even try this is a fanBOY site the truth died here a long time ago.
They refuse to learn on this site you say anything about MS or have a difference of an opinion not praising the PS4 and you get flamed. Just let them drool in their own ignorance.

There some idiot up there saying the x1 can't do 1080p 60fps, but it does.

You can tell that most of them are noobs 180 makes such a small difference on fanBOYs care.

Gameplay is KING you see any of these ignorant fool talking about that?

[Neonridr]

Resolution may always make a difference, but it's not a substitute for gameplay.

[mandf]

Agreed but if a console is capable of it why not have both.

[Neonridr]

Provided the developer is willing to give us both, which isn't always the case nowadays, I say bring it on.

Sadly sometimes we get too caught up in how "pretty" a game is and not focus on how much fun we have playing it.

[gangsta_red]

That is a big IF, and to say a console can have both is really stretching at the current moment.

[Why o why]

Its not tricky mr red....its trickier for one at the moment at least. No multiplatform game on the ps4 has suffered or performed worst than the x1 equivalent due to being a higher resolution. ...Sometimes I just don't get some people's logic and it is a straw man argument or false dilemma to suggest you only get the choice between higher res or better performance/gameplay.

Im also annoyed people are now saying that because the focus is on performance, gameplay is overlooked.. absolute nonsense. Performance has always been important..Nobody anywhere is implying it isn't.

[kingduqc]

"Agreed but if a console is capable of it why not have both."

It's not. freaking slow ass cpu and low tier 7850 can't do much more.

[BlackTar187]

I love how people think you have to pick one or the other. It's strawman argument . You can have both picking one doesn't devalue the other in any way.

[LostDjinn]

Without creating a dichotomy you'd be forced to admit hardware shortcomings though. ;)

[Neonridr]

you can wish and hope for both. But that's up to the developer to deliver.

I am merely saying that people nowadays are far too focused on graphics over gameplay when it should be the other way around. Graphics are important, no doubt, but to say that they are more important than the games "fun" factor is just wrong.

[mandf]

LostDjinn

You nailed it. Hitting a resolution is easier than fps. The whole arguement is either the xbox one is not capable of a fighting game at 1080p and 60fps or the developer is not capable. Which is it?

[Biggest]

The strange thing is that the most common examples of 900p versus 1080p are multiplatform games. What is this "graphics or gameplay" conversation talking about? The majority of games released have the same exact gameplay.

[KingKionic]

That jago pic looks great even though the game looked good already. Even looks like the lighting was increased?

Glad to see Iron galaxy making more improvements this season with the resolution bump to 900p, enhancing the combo system, and adding new combos to characters.

Hope we dont have to wait to long to see the new game modes too.

[Fireseed]

Before someone asks why they removed the large bell in the background, cause I know a lot of people are ignorant of the game. They did not, the bell falls after you finish an Ultra.

[masterfox]

NO WAY IMPOSSIBRUUU!!!, thats NOT logic we refuse consciousness, we refuse inertia, we refuse air we don't need it, resolution doesn't make any difference to use xboners!!

I'm mad I need some oxygen from space!!

[King_of_Nothing]

Can't imagine why you have only one bubble

[Ocsta]

Its a fighting game. Why o why is 1080p not doable on a FIGHTING GAME?!? What the hell?

[Mikefizzled]

If you have seen how KI plays out there can be so many effects and particles on screen that fps could tank at 1080p. Can't afford to drop at any point due to how important FPS is to timing combo breakers, counter breakers and cancels.

[Deathdeliverer]

You honestly believe that the particle effects from certain moves on the game, usually projectiles, are the reason this game is now 900p? In a 1 v 1 fighting game? So all the effects, detail, character models, blooming and everything else in say... Battlefield 4, pale in comparison to what's behind the scenes of a fighting game? There's no reason for the game to be just hitting 900p let alone not being 1080p. Other than of course development team size or skill level. Maybe even budget. But please don't talk like KI is pushing any graphical limits. And just in case you are wondering I've had the game and my XB1 since launch.

[Fireseed]

@Death

You have no idea how many particles there are on screen for KI. None. Besides BF4 has tons of mediocre particles and the framrate drops all the time. In a fighting game that isn't acceptable EVER! Moves are executed in 3 frames or less. Dropping one or two cuts execution time in half and is just unplayable. hence why all tourney played Street Fighter on 360, because the PS3 would occasionally drop 1 or 2 frames.

[Mikefizzled]

No I think time restraints and lack of refinement of development tools were the reason KI launched at 720p. The game released with 6 characters and large chunks of standard content missing. Refinements of engine usually happen after the content is finished. But the way Season 1 launched left Double Helix barely any time to focus on improving the preexisting stuff.

[DoubleM70]

No I don't. The 900P looks darker, which actually could have been adjusted on my TV screen from the jump.

[NeoGamer232]

I like the season 2 killer instinct just as much as I liked season 1...

Have played both and it seems pretty much the same.

I am positive there is a difference in resolution as the article both shows and states. But, resolution makes almost know difference in how a fighting game like this plays... Yes it may make a difference when you are looking down the scope of a rifle in CoD, BF, or Halo... But, in a fighting game it means next to nothing. I still enjoys Street Fighter II just as much as a game like Street Fighter IV.

[cruzngta]

As an owner of an XB1 I will take any rez bump at this point. Dont know why they couldnt push this to 1080p but whatever. Seems like 1080p is just harder to get for all of theses devs except Turn 10 and 343 studios. I remember reading the XB1 gpu's base rez was more or less around 900p consistently but was capable of 1080p all day long with the right optimizations. Guess it all comes down to the game at hand and the demands on the gpu/ eagerness of the devs to work harder to optimize code. That being said '900p is good enuff 4 me'. I was being sarcastic guys :0)

[gangsta_red]

Further proof that the X1 was more than likely rushed out and caught a lot of developers off guard. You put time in and you can achieve 900 or 1080 for this console.

It may not be as easy as PS4 but it is doable.

[aerisbueller]

resolution only doesn't matter when it's the PS4 that has the higher resolution. I mean isn't that what all the 'does resolution really matter' and 'can you really see the difference' articles were about?

Also, this game looks god-awful. Should be 4k with them graphics.

[hiawa23]

I thought it was great at 720p upscaled, so I am really going to love it even more at 900p, although the res bump really doesn't change my enjoyment with the game.

[jmac53]

Of course it makes a difference when we are talking about games on the same platform. When we are talking about multiplatform you can't tell the difference and gameplay is all that matters. <End Sarcasm>

[Daz]

Wheres the big difference all i see is the colour is different , they could of update other stuff too, then just resolution what a stupid comparision

[NewShadow101]

Not that big of a difference. Which is not a good thing. We've been playing in 720p for 10 yrs now, PC's have been doing full HD for how long? Why isn't it running in 1080p? This really shouldn't be an issue for this generation. But it is. And it's sad. now were chasing the same thing we were 10 yrs ago. Full HD.

[u4one]

Why is FH2 1080p and KI isn't. What am I missing?

[Sm00thNinja]

Were talking 720p to 900p how are we relating this to the resolution gate gamers are stupidly arguing over! Now if we were talking 720p on Xbox and 1080p on PlayStation that would be too great! It's still the same game it's a shame this generation of gamers are so fickle about pointless things. I do get it somewhat if I can have 1080p why settle for 900?? Still isn't game changing. There are things Xbox does better to counter this inadequacy. Lol seriously you just gotta state your opinion and not worry about bubbles because here an honest opinion can ruin you

[Father__Merrin]

it definalty makes a difference, theres no doubbt about that. but ive found to some extent it depends on screen size

i have a syncmaster 22" and i find 1080p kinda squeezed in, the 900p picture on desktop, browsing and gaming looks smoother

[ironmonkey]

not to be rude but that looks upscaled which looks worse in 900p.

[jhoward585]

congratulation MS on the res increase. The way I look at it at least the x1 has a fighting game.

I've been dieing for a fighting game on my PS4.

[iiorestesii]

And a free version of Drive Club. IMO PS took a big hit this month.

[ceromaster]

For some reason everyone loves talking about Rez when it comes to consoles, but the moment PC shows up to the party everyone wants to rage. Resolution is nice to have, but I would rather have: better AI, better/more customization, better physics, better gameplay.

Imo, Killer Instinct looked fine before, I couldn't have cared less if it jumped to 900p or even 1080p, it would be a good game regardless.

I'm sick to death of shallow games and shallow gamers.

[aerisbueller]

Yeah, every time a dev makes a game with good graphics, or a console manufacturer makes a powerful console, that means the dev can no longer improve the gameplay, or the console can't support good games.

Also, if someone is passionate about their love of the hardware and technology behind games, and how they can enhance the aesthetic or allow the artists and programmers more flexibility and breathing room, or even if anyone cares enough to discuss that subject at all, that person must be a shallow gamer with shallow taste in games.

Are you sick to death of the people who still insist there's no power gap between PS4 and XBox One? Do you think that kind of desperate denial is maybe desperately shallow?

Does it not add to the coolness or hype of games like Sunset Overdrive or Forza Horizon 2 that the games have excellent graphics? Is the experience not at all enhanced than if those games had Playstation 1 graphics?

If I say Secret of Mana had better music than Final Fantasy 3, does that mean I don't care about the gameplay of either game?

[TheRacingX]

Graphics dont make the game....gameplay makes the game....graphics enhance the experience sure, but if the game sucks, gets boring, plays like crap, no amount of graphics is going to save it...... look at games like Mario Galaxy, Donkey Kong country, God of War, Halo, Half Life, sure they looked nice , but were great playing games and are recognized as great playing games and classics

[Yaay4me]

not sure why we even have this article, OF COURSE it makes a difference.

[No_Limit]

We should be happy that we are getting another great season of Killer Instict but sonmehow this thread turns into a resolution mess once again. How bout we just enjoy the game and stop worry about this. If you have a xbox one, you should he happy and if you don't, it doesn't matter becuase all you will be playing is on 0p.

[xDHAV0K24x]

if resolution is such a big deal, why do ppl buy minecraft on the ps4/xb1? can easily just play it on 360/ps3. IT DEPENDS ON THE GAME!

[corroios]

Rez is the top discussion of this site. Because it show the power of the console.

The reality is that another exclusive game on the xbox one that runs at 900p and is a fighting game and is the second game made by the same studio...

Next you gonna have Sunset Overdrive. Cartony game, rez 900p, exclusive game.

The trend is clear to see. Its not easy to reach 1080p on the xbox without cutting stuff or using dynamic rez.

Sport ou car games are not a good example to see the power of the console and we all now why.

[gamer7804]

Just fyi, a different developer made the second season, no, its not made by the same developer, same publisher (obviously microsoft), but they aren't the ones doing the coding. So with this new developer's limited time with the game, they were able to get up to speed fast, make a season 2, as well as increasing the resolution already. Lets try not to make this into something that it isn't (a cause for any type of fanboyism)

[Gore-Content]

900p... Can't get any better than that on x1.

[Gr1mmyshadows]

I still don't see much of a difference besides the fact that one looks brighter than the other

[Monkeysmoke]

So XB1 can't run this low effect game in 1080p?
PS4 will easily run this Game in 4k!!!

[Skizelli]

Whenever someone debates resolution in a video game, it reminds me of that scene from Spinal Tap.

http://cyclonebicycle.com/w...

[Carlito]

I didn't even know that the game was 720 untill I read this artical.

[corroios]

Lol, i wouldnt go that far. But its strange the problems and that must be the GPU.

[SquillieDeeWilliams]

Honestly, I could care less what Res KI runs @. The game is beautiful, butter smooth, and ridiculously fun to play. Thats what matters to me. If anybody wants to play add me GT: Squillie Dee...

[Tedakin]

The color seems different in the new version too. I'm talking about on my TV, not in these screenshots.

[Petebloodyonion]

Here's article # 900000 trying to stir the famous resolution debate!

1) Please google: High video defintion to learn that HD doesn't mean: Must be 1080P.

2) Google all the articles regarding 720P vs 1080P to learn that it's that easy to spot the difference and that is without a upscaler.

3) Also let's all remember all the resolutions experts bragging about Killzone 4 TRUE NATIVE 1080P.

In the end, this debate doesn't help game company create better and more innovative game on the contrary it's allow them to give us the exact old gen game with better resolution and pass it as next gen!

[Rhythmattic]

Lets be clear , KZ in SP is 1080P. As for MP, technically it is , but not ? (guess thats them aiming for 60fps)

As for KI.. Looked good, looking better.

[Gamer777]

Did they use dark vs bright screenshots to make the resolution difference appear larger ?

[Hammtweezy2192]

This is crazy, the differneces are so small. I sit 12 ft from my 60" Vizio in my living room and as I find myself staring at a still photo trying sooooooo hard to really see it! Fact: there is a difference because there ARE more pixels on the screen. However to the human eye it's just not a significant as all this hoopla that is on all the gaming sites. I'm the type to blow smoke up anybody's ass and I have no problem admitting that a higher resolution will always be better because it's just mathematically the way it is as shown in posts above this, but it's just not substantial enough to have so many dabates over. If a person was shown the pictures in person individually and not next to eachother I would bet that well over a majority would be just guessing which was which.

[plmkoh]

Personally I'm not too hooked up on the whole resolution thing, I'm much more critical if the game delivers or not.

But to say you can't see the difference between 900p and 1080p, you must be playing on really bad hardware

[Predaking77]

In general, resolution does matters and it is important.

Only xbox fanboys will tell you that resolution doesn't matter or that there is no difference between 900p and 1080p just because the PS4 is superior.

You know that if the X1 was the superior console, they would be saying the same exact thing that the PS4 owners are saying.

Opinions is based in the position of your console of choice. If you have the weaker console, most sure you will say resolution doesn't matter because you have the weaker console.

[tekksin]

quite possibly the ugliest exclusive of all time.

[Jag-T1000]

All I know is that the game looks pretty!

[Tedakin]

I played KI for 40 hours before Season 2. Now that season 2 is out and has a resolution bump the only difference I can see is it's a little brighter. It doesn't look any sharper or clearer to me.

[TheNew1]

"720p to 900p shows a much bigger difference than 900p upscaled to 1080p vs 1080p."

This is true, plus it looks like they changed the settings on their tv.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

This is that One year of back pedaling

[cabinotier]

Resolution change will affect much on a type of game like "polygon doll show".
But how about fighting game ?
Does it matter game mechanics?

[Shineon]

News flash bad company 2 servers or up and running on Xbox 360# off topic for a good cause

[TooTall19]

When I went to EVO in Vegas this was by far my favorite game to watch, even though I haven't played it before.

[ChickeyCantor]

I'm pretty sure they also improved the shaders/lightning. Resolution alone can't do that.

[_FantasmA_]

Wait, so now all of sudden resolution does matter? I'm confused Xbros. And then you wonder why we prefer 1080p to 900p or 720p, and its because it is noticeable. You've think you've seen HD when you've seen 720p, but you will immediately see a difference when you get into 1080p and higher. I myself thought that PS3 games look good (they certainly look better than 360 games), but I was amazed when I saw the PS4 and its native 1080p as opposed to upscaled 720p to 1080p like the PS3 and 360 had.

[urwifeminder]

All the res in the world could not make me any good at this game have not tried it in a while though I might have a look at the update.

[svoulis]

Anyone notice the renderings in the background are missing? Maybe this is what helped squeeze out the extra 180p?

http://i0.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

http://i2.wp.com/gearnuke.c...

[kurruptor]

Someone said that bell in the background drops during the level. So, one screenshot was taken before that happened.