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Like It or Not, Driveclub’s Reception Is Troubling News for Sony

CraveOnline: "You may have noticed this morning that reviews of Driveclub are already flooding in, populating the previously empty slots on the games’ Metacritic page that sat waiting through delays and general anticipation. Some reviews are good, some are bad, and some are mind-numbingly middle of the road, but one thing has already become clear: Driveclub, unfortunately, is not receiving universal acclaim. Its Metascore currently sits at an inoffensive 74, and if today’s wash of reviews are any indication, that’s about where it’s going to stay."

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-Foxtrot3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

It's up to people to make their own judgements and not listen to the majority of journalists who spend half their reviews comparing it to Forza.

Yeah those journalists which have nearly all been in those corruption "Gamer Gate" articles. Why would you latch onto every word they say.

Yeah make your own judgements by looking at Youtube videos.

darthv723481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

and honestly, this game is likely to outsell forza on the principal that there are more PS4 owners and a great percentage have been waiting for this game regardless of the delays.

It isnt like all of a sudden, some lackluster reviews are going to make them rethink their intention of getting a new IP from the creators of motorstorm (which was itself a great new IP for the PS3).

SoapShoes3481d ago

Well it already is on Amazon. FH2 didn't sell that well on Amazon but both are fun games imo.

ghostface93481d ago

doubtful seeing is how its not very good people will just go for the free ps+ version

True_Samurai3481d ago

@SoapShoes because Amazon is the only place to buy games /s

SoapShoes3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

@True_Samurai - I was talking about Amazon and my comment was an observation on Amazon.com. Where in my comment did I say it was outselling FH2 anywhere else?

Lightning Mr Bubbles3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

Yeah, I'm kind of losing faith in reviews, especially after Destiny.

I finally got the game, and I'm really enjoying it so far, not the doom and gloom disappointment that all the sites made it seem like. It's a very nice looking open world chill RPG shooter, maybe too chill for all the frantic first person shooter types.

Also look at Alien Isolation, the reviews are so contrasting, from sites that give it a 5 and say it's junk, to sites that give it a 9.5. Reviews are getting kinda weird, guess you gotta play the game and see it's for you or not.

Clogmaster3481d ago

Sometimes it's quite enlightening when you play a game with such crappy reviews. You tend to enjoy it more because the bar is set so low.

SoapShoes3481d ago

@D-Du | Such crappy reviews? It has only gotten 4 reviews that are a 6/10 or below and 20 reviews that are 8/10 or higher.

Xb1ps43481d ago

As a owner of both consoles I didn't just rethink about it.. I ended up getting fh2 but I get it,more ps4's so more dc sales.. It's all good both are solid games

ScaryMonkey3480d ago Show
JeffGUNZ3480d ago

@ Scareymonkey

Hate to break it to you but 74 average isn't bad, it means it's a good game. Gamers are so skewed with their review scores it's laughable. If it's not a 9 out of 10 or higher it's a flop. Xbox owners don't care about driveclub since they have Forza, so your argument makes no sense. I also doubt a campaign of xbox fanboys got together and entered into professional journalism on reputable sites just to give driveclub a good score of 74. Give it a rest man.

TheJacksonRGN3480d ago

It was in the top 10 US pre-orders list at least. FH2 wasn't.

UltraNova3480d ago

Indeed reviews are getting weirder by the day... But the notion of 'just play the game for your self' doesn't stick either because if I were to buy all the games to play them my self because I couldn't trust some reviews I'd be broke in a months time.

We have to read around and learn how to cut through the crap, then decide.

I still have faith for Angry Joe's review...I'll wait until then...

ThePope3480d ago (Edited 3480d ago )

The real question is if the reviews were say 8's across the board would you still be talking about how you don't trust reviews anymore?

No people would be praising the reviews and saying how much they agree with them. Its only an issue when you don't like the reviews. Then its MS/journalists/reviewgate/Inte l's fault. But in no, way, shape, or form is the game to blame for its poor reviews.

If you like it great! That's 100% ok. But don't pretend its anything other than the games short comings that have caused the reviews. I listen to a few podcasts by some of the guys who do these reviews, and they're stand up people. Who LOVE videogames.

Yetter3480d ago

Considering it is the only true PS4 exclusive this holiday season I wouldn't be shocked. On the other hand I think the PS+ version is probably gonna hurt sales

fr0sty3480d ago

The reviews mean nothing when all PS4 owners will be able to play it for free before buying...

memots3480d ago

its troubling news to the whole industry as it is. Every game is getting this cold reception treatment. The next gen ( current gen ) is having issues and thid could lead to trouble for the whole industry

XanderZane3480d ago

I had the game preordered, but cancelled it after reading the "14 Things You Didn't Know About DriveClub". Then once the reviews came out, I was glad I did. I'll try the FREE PS+ version and judge for myself, but most racing fanatics are saying DriveClub is an incomplete game with lackluster driving and A.I., Dumb penalities for driving off the road, no weather effects in the game until Dec, (after shoving tons of videos at us showing the weather conditions) and only 50 cars with NO American or Asian vehicles. Horizon 2 is easily better then this game. Even Mario Kart 8 is better then DriveClub. A whole 10 month delay and the game is crap. What was the game like a year prior? Then next big exclusive for Sony will be The Order 1886. Let's see if they can get that one right.

Prime1573480d ago

In terms of user reviews on meta critic I almost agree with scary monkey.

Many off the user reviews say 0 out of ten and have the same structure with very few words changed. On top of that, they mention positive aspects yet still give it a 0?

It's getting increasingly hard to get a sense of a game without actually playing it. Not many reviewers try to answer the question, "what type of person will like this?"

Time for yelp for review sites.

gootimes3480d ago (Edited 3480d ago )

Well Forza 5 is 79 on meta, 74 really isn't far from it.

Both track racers remember... I know people hated to compare FH2 to DC, I guess it's ok to compare their meta scores though.

And LBP 3 is just as much a "true exclusive" this holiday as FH2 is... Why do people change the idea of what an exclusive is so often. If it is on one console and not the other, it's an exclusive!!

nX3480d ago

Reviews are far off on this one, it's at least a 8, closer to a 9 if you rate it with the same standards that other games are being rated on. People claiming "it's not fun!" or "it doesn't have enough content!" are hypocrites who didn't even play the damn game yet, both statements are completely untrue. On GAF, lots of people are surprised that it reviewed so low after playing it for themselves, here are a few examples:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
But well, it always was fun to hate on exclusives I guess, that won't change anytime soon.

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Gaming247allday3481d ago

Every Sony fanboy, and even Driveclub/Sony marketing themselves have compared it to Forza talking trash "Forza Killer" they wanted it compared to Forza though

OldDude3481d ago

That's the part that hurts, Sony used the "Forza Killer" comment... if they hadn't shot their mouths off then it wouldn't be so bad.

souga_houjou_jin3480d ago

tell turn 10 to surpass the GT franchises in overall then talk about DC until then enjoy your low selling racing semi simulator wannabe kkthxbb

16bitNutritionist3480d ago

I'm sorry but GT is shite nowadays compared to forza...it just doesnt compare to how it was when it first released on PS1 and PS2.

DoctorJones3480d ago

Pass the salt please souga_houjou_jin.

XanderZane3480d ago

Completely agree. Saying DC would be a Forza Horizon 2 killer was just dumb, especially with Horizon 2 having a solid 86 Meta score and 79 User score. Taking a look at DriveClub now, it has a 72 score (which means it has already dropped 2 points since this article) and a dismal 61 user score. No where close to being a Horizon 2 killer. Sony is eating their own words right about now. Also delaying the PS+ version of DC to try and get extra full price sales of the game is just sad.

gootimes3480d ago (Edited 3480d ago )

Actually it is comparable to Forza.

Forza 5 scored 79 on meta, DC isn't far off. Is it some kind of killer? No, but it doesn't need to be. Racers not named Gran Turismo are not mega system sellers anyways.

The journalists quote they use was not talking about Horizon. Now is Horizon a better game in general, no doubt, but racers are pretty niche in general. LBP 3 will probably be one of the more popular exclusives this year.

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Magicite3481d ago

Im pretty sure sales-wise DC gonna beat Forza 5/FH2.

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gamer78043481d ago

Not if you don't include the free version

Ace Killa 083480d ago

Does it matter? Both can be good games. Personally I can say forza is a fun game. DC I wont try as I already got a racing game :( I'll try the PS+ when it goes out.

Sales don't equal to game quality it's been preached here for so long and it is true.

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u4one3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

In the most recent trailer they claimed it was a "Forza Killer". Even if they didn't make that quote, they certainly ran with it. Kinda seems like they asked for the comparison. Even if for some reason Driveclub sells more, it doesn't change the fact that it wasn't as well received as Forza critically, and more sales ≠ better game. If that logic were true, McDonalds would have the best hamburger in the world.

ger23963481d ago

Since it's a business, more sales trumps critical acclaim. And to some people, McDonald's does have the best hamburgers.

-Foxtrot3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

Who wouldn't run with it, I mean really. They didn't know other reviews wern't going to enjoy it so when they saw someone who did they used that in the marketing

How many films, books, games which are crap-average use the best quotes when marketing their products. Hell even Destiny used some at times.

If Sony came out on stage and said "This is DriveClub, it's so amazing, it's a Forza killer" then fair enough but they didn't.

People have got to stop acting like other people wouldn't of ran with it because they would.

I bet you any money if a review and I mean ONE review of Rise of the Tomb Raider said "Xbox Ones Uncharted Killer" Microsoft would run with it...and why, because it's good for marketing.

u4one3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

@Foxtrot:

I don't blame them for running with it, and of course most people would in fact run with it; Thats promotion I don't find any fault with that. What I am pointing out is that if you are going to claim that your game A is better than someone else' game B, people are actually going to hold you to it and make that comparison. If you don't have the goods to back up your claims its going to backfire.

They asked to be compared to Forza and so they were. A majority of critics and users alike seem to disagree with that quote, apparently. Personally I agree. Driveclub is a nice enough game and I enjoy it, but it isn't a Forza killer. More importantly, people can still enjoy it even if it isn't considered better. It's still good after all.

-Alpha3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

@Foxtrot

All you have is baseless grasping at air. You DONT know that MS would do that with Tomb Raider, sorry. Also, we all know how most people on this site would react to that. People would lash out at MS. Of course, calling DC a Forza killer was met with acceptance.

This is an ugly double standard. They advertised the launch trailer with a really stupid comparison, and you can't suddenly blame others for making comparisons that suddenly don't go Driveclub's way. By the way, no, the "Forza Killer" quote was not the "best" quote they could have used.

Your false equivalence with other movies and mediums are no better: nobody ever calls one movie a "killer" over another. You can claim something like "best movie since X" or "best movie this summer", but no one ever says something so hostile and aggressive as "this movie kills X".

It's incredibly hypocritical that people latched on to the "forza killer" comment, even laughed at the inclusion ("shots fired lol!"), and now that the same media compares it in a way that disfavours Driveclub, you want to turn around and stop the comparisons.

I also have no doubt that the pathetically baseless accusations of conspiracies and dismissive attitude of reviewers for being "biased" would NEVER come up, if DC scored high. This is just a mob mentality: agree with us if you want us to keep quiet, but disagree and we'll suddenly talk about bias and corruption.

It's only ever a conspiracy, issue, biased, or unfair when the scores for the game are low, but most of the people complaining about the state of the review industry/journalism are nowhere to be seen when reviews go their way

It only shows how fickle and two-faced the community can be, and shows that the only people giving power to these reviews are the fans themselves, who will anticipate and use reviews to prove a game's critical acclaim, and then quickly accuse reviewers of bias when reviews don't go there way.

It's the same in which 5/10's are dismissed as illogical and inconceivable, yet a 21/20 score is praised as completely rational, and never questioned http://n4g.com/news/394102/...

gamer78043481d ago

Fords horizon 2 will make more $ in addition to better reviews. Still going to try out the free version but the reviews dampen the excitement a bit

MaxKingoftheWild3480d ago

@Alpha, you need to read before making yourself look silly. I see plenty of people questioning the score
from the link you provided.

DoctorJones3480d ago

@-Alpha

Baseless grasping at air is what Foxtrot does best, it's the only thing he's good at. Pretty much every comment he makes is baseless, yet he carries on regardless and people eat it up.

That's why he does so well on n4g. It's his home.

DanteVFenris6663480d ago

Mcdonalds is definitely my fav

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Torque_CS_Lewith3481d ago

But trust them when they give tlou goty awards. Got it.

-Foxtrot3481d ago

Are you really saying Last of Us didn't deserve them...because it did.

Farmassy3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

@foxtrot

thats not what he is saying. Don't worry, he isn't talking bad about your precious tlou... that would be heresy

he is just making the point that now a lot of playstation fans say what the critics think does not matter... even though they talk about how much critics love tlou. He is showing the hipocrisy.

Snookies123480d ago (Edited 3480d ago )

What is up with people bashing Last of Us? It was freaking awesome... One of the only memorable games that's come out in recent memory.

FriedGoat3480d ago

They bash tlou because they will never have a game of that quality on Xbox :(

Farmassy3480d ago

@snookie
@friedgoat

No one is putting down tlou. Where did you even get that idea? You are so defensive for no reason. We were just saying that when critics agree with you, people like them, but when they disagree with your opinion, they are said to be biased and wrong.
For the record, I really enjoyed the last of us. I don't think it was the second coming like some people do but it was really good. I can't play it on my xbox but I play it on my ps3. Why did this become a ps4 vs xbox thing? Y'all are way too defensive. At just the thought that someone might be putting tlou down you freak and turn it into a console thing. Calm down. Slightly pathetic

gootimes3479d ago

@Farmassy

"Don't worry, he isn't talking bad about your precious tlou"

lol, someone is bitter over TLoU.

Farmassy3479d ago

@gootimes
Why would I be bitter over a game I have played and enjoyed? A game that I still own?
Even mention tlou to a ps fanboys and they get so defensive. For some reason they get mad if you mention it without praising it

I don't understand

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MrPink20133481d ago

People will make their own judegments as they should but reviewers will compare it to Forza and other racing games because that is how many base their reviews on, what the competition has done.

It's funny you say half the reviewers, that's probably still less than what we saw in the forums. You couldn't go into a Forza topic without somneone mentioning Driveclub.

When all people talk about are graphics and combine that with a review embargo until the day of release you start to question just how good the game is. I expect Sony's only real other big title left for this year, Little Big Planet 3 to get good reviews. Probabaly not in the 9's too much as the franchise is getting a bit run of the mill now. The Order is the other one next year that have many wondering if it too is all gearing up based solely on graphics to sell itself. But I expect it to get another delay.

gangsta_red3481d ago

It's getting to a critical point to where no one can say ANYTHING negative about a sony exclusive or they will be accused of some kind of bias or paid off by MS.

I remember Foxtrot congratulating some journalists who gave Titanfall a low score and saying how they didn't fall for the "hype" and yet with Driveclub these journalists are involved with "gamer Gate" or something sinister of the sort.

You just can't like a sony game anymore.

You can't pick and chose which reviewers are paid off based on your own preference of games. I didn't see you accusing half of the reviewers who gave Destiny a bad score as you do with Driveclub and other Sony exclusive games.

MrPink20133481d ago

Peoples history patterns most surely reflect on how much faith others have in their opinions. What's ironic is these people are quick to attach labels to certain review sites, get knee depp in conspiracy theories, all while ignoring their own bias comments that have followed them.

-Foxtrot3481d ago

" Titanfall a low score and saying how they didn't fall for the "hype" "

Yet ironically most people today say it was over hyped. It's always listed along with WatchDogs and Destiny (something you even said yourself was being overhyped and would be a dissapointment). By the way in that comment, or comments about the game did I ever say the game in general was shit or did I just talk about hype....yeah exactly. Don't cherry pick mate.

Why are you always the one to come on an article and cry yourself that the site is heavily Sony bias and other crap.

Don't like the site, move on. Bet you wouldn't of had that same attitude if you were a member on here back inn 2006-2008

4Sh0w3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

Wow Foxtrot, you are all over the place with your logic. I mean you weighed in on the Titanfall lower reviews saying they are THE ONES not buying the hype..now you're soap box ranting about reviews, "make up your own mind", but "oh yeah journalists are great when they praise TLOU" and who are all these folks who say Titanfall is overhyped? Do they own it?..or are they well known folks who constantly downplay everything X1 related?..and doesn't that go against your opening "It's up to people to make their own judgements" statement because I certainly haven't seen anything close to a consensus that the majority of Titanfall owners think as you do.  Seriously have some self respect instead of flip flopping so much. Read over your arguments in the last few posts and honestly ask yourself if you don't sound like the epitome of the word "fanboy".

JeffGUNZ3480d ago

Foxtrot

What happened to you? I have watch you decline so much this past year it's insane. Your comments are so bias and you can't admit when you're wrong.

Titanfall, last I checked prior to Destiny, was the best selling and most played game on Xbox 1. That's pretty solid for a new IP when games like BF and COD are on the same console. Titanfall was the highest selling exclusive for the X1 so far. Titanfall met it's hype to those who actually played it. For the people who rationalize hating a console they don't own, it was overhyped to them. Titanfall was nowhere near the hype of watchdogs and Destiny's hype was a whole other world of hype.

I miss the old Foxtrot who was a little more critical of everything and not so bias. Also, that whole "if you were a member on here back in 2006-2008" stuff shows extreme immaturity. It's a child mentality to hold a grudge for that long. A lot of the Xbox owners, not all, were not on this site that long, so why take it out on them?

-Foxtrot3480d ago (Edited 3480d ago )

@JeffGUNZ

I don't see how I'm bias, I might seem a little towards Sonys side but that's only because they havent really p***** me off as a gamer.

I've critisized Sony when they are in the wrong or if my opinion differs.

I mentioned a while ago how I "HOPE" Uncharted 4 doesn't go too dark and I was criticized for it and one person even said I was bashing NaughtyDog.

" It's a child mentality to hold a grudge for that long. "

I'm not holding a grudge, I wasn't even on this site back then but I saw what it was like. I wasn't bothered by it because back then Sony messed up and they paid for it while Microsoft did things right.

The site reflects on whatever is happening in the industry.

In the end I comment the same as I always do, regardless of what it is I'll say something and express my feelings on it.

Silly gameAr3480d ago

No offence, but it just seems like you guys that prefer Xbox are using articles like this to vent on Sony and PS fanboys. It just looks so obvious. Even if some of you guys do make good points, with you're own bias toward your console of choice, it's hard to take you serious.

gangsta_red3480d ago

"Yet ironically most people today say it was over hyped."

And yet it still got higher scores and a better reception than Destiny did. The reason I never fell for Destiny's hype was because nothing was ever shown for it prior to the beta, unlike Titanfall which was shown and played way before launch.

I even remember you saying you were more excited for Destiny even though you didn't see a lick of gameplay compared to Titanfall.

"Why are you always the one to come on an article and cry yourself that the site is heavily Sony bias and other crap."

Because people like you always flip flop and yell foul when someone is shoving your own medicine back down your throat. You want journalists and reviewers to give new IP's a chance and to be judged by it's content and not be compared to others when it's only a Sony game. You did NOT give that same benefit to Titanfall as you bashed it in almost every article.

"Don't like the site, move on. Bet you wouldn't of had that same attitude if you were a member on here back inn 2006-2008"

Who said I didn't like the site? I love it, where else can I expose extreme hypocrites who love to deflect and dodge and then tell me about the good ol days of 2006-2008? As if that mattered.

Please express your feelings but don't get your feelings hurt when people call you out and expose your back peddling and bias.

gootimes3479d ago

I guess maybe people just like Sony more, Gangsta Red...

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mcarsehat3481d ago

No you find one reviewer that shares your opinion the majority of the time and stick with them. Not doing that is just letting marketing make up your mind for you

Torque_CS_Lewith3481d ago

I am saying it seems reviews and reviewers are worthless and untrustworthy only when they are negative towards ones preferences.
But as soon as they favour our preferences then its metacritc this and goty awards that!

Just saying, #gamergate when giving DriveClub mediocre reviews but reputable when laudi journey.
Can't have ir both ways.

kenshiro1003480d ago

Agreed 100%.

The game should have been reviewed on its own merits, not compared with Forza.

MoreRPG3480d ago

They are comparing this game to forza because the ad was making this looks like the "PS4's Forza killer" even though they are different games.

Kidmyst3480d ago

I thought as a gaming community in general, no one takes Metacritic scores seriously anymore, I sure don't so any reviewer who references them I won't even read their article.

RIP_Weazel3480d ago

This site (craveonline) seems to be fast carving out a niche baiting fanboys and fanning the flames of confrontation purely for click bait. Hmmmm....

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TheXgamerLive3480d ago

If its your kind of Racer then go for it, reviewers will go either way. They love and build it up to much or they hate it and pick it apart. Watch some youtube gameplay vids and make up your own mind:)

assdan3480d ago

It's not good or bad news. Driveclub isn't that big game.

xtremeimport3480d ago

I dont get the Forza:Horizon comparison.
I see on the IGN review they mention its not as compelling as "its open world peers"

Its not an open world racer. So because it has cars we compare it to one. Thats like comparing a FPS to a TPS.

I notice that in more places than just IGN. Do we bitch about GT and Forza not being open world? No. So just because its not a SIM, it has to be open world too? i dont get it.

Tapewurm3480d ago

This isn't Gran Turismo 7, but it will hold me until it gets here. I actually am enjoying Drive Club.... Looks amazing and the sense of speed is insane....tracks are gorgeous.... no tweeking of cars and the general lack of extras is a little disappointing considering the amount of time spent on it, but the racing is great. Again, once you accept that it isn't Gran Turismo 7 and that it is just a beautifully fast racer, you will be OK.... Fun Game.

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GiantEnemyCrab3481d ago

Then they had to run around saying "PS4's Forza Killer".

Then people wonder why Forza is brought up in every review. Sony should not have printed that quote.

Yo Mama3481d ago

Why not? Sony didn't make that quote up to make themselves look good. A gaming publication said it. Are you saying Sony is at fault for being proud that someone thinks Driveclub is better than Forza? smdh.

SoapShoes3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

Anyone who got feedback like that would want to highlight it. You really think you wouldn't if you made something and someone made a highly praising comment? It's not like they knew people weren't going to like it enough to give it 5/10s. Seriously, that's for nearly unplayable games....

What is really funny? It got some bad reviews and you have a WHOLE BUNCH of haters coming out to defend it saying that's their opinion but someone saying DriveClub is a Forza killer they act like it isn't someone's opinion. Funny how they pick and choose what opinion is valid and which is not(like how they don't comment on all of the good reviews it has gotten). -_-

So far DriveClub has gotten 27 reviews at or higher than a 7.5, 19 reviews at or over 8/10, 4 reviews at or over a 9/10, and only 6 reviews at or below 6/10. Many more people like it than don't and it shows.

4Sh0w3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

Nah, no matter what anyone writes outside of Sony its Sony who chose to take an aggressive marketing approach DIRECTLY at the competition. If you choose to do so then you can't fall back on the weak excuse "we are just quoting someone else", its Sony's marketing that made the ad.

It's business so I get their big push to sell Driveclub but I only fault them for actually using the opportunity to take a shot at their competitor (Forza) with a game they had to know wasn't their best effort= delayed, limited amount of cars, almost entirely Euro cars, I hear weather will be patched later, limited customization, no tuning, AI in most reviews seems off, servers not ready, etc, which frankly they had to know that the game(FH2) that Driveclub was suppose to "kill" was very well received in those categories and MORE. I mean sometimes you got to crank up the PR I just think sony should be smarter when they do take a shot the game should back it up.

Death3480d ago

@Soap,

The Meta average is 72 which isn't gold, it's yellow. That is a low "C" and edging very close to a "D" on the grading scale. Yes, some reviewers liked it, but others were very disappointed. Ultimately it is up to the end user to form their own opinion. If anyone is on the fence, download the Plus version when it releases and decide for yourself.

MaxKingoftheWild3480d ago

@Death, metacritic is a joke and the joke is a 4/10 represents a near broken game. However, on a 5 point scale a 2 doesn't represent that. You can't just go in adjusting to a 10 point scale. It doesn't work that way. Anyway, take away that 40/100 and the game jumps a couple points.

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BlackWolf123481d ago

Sony Marketing are the ones who ran with that quote, not the company by large, and not the developer.

The developer likely had no idea that the trailer included that quote.

At the end of the day, quoting that it is a "Forza Killer" is great publicity for the game, and it worked.

Gamerbeyond3480d ago

every multiplat has sold more on ps4,

killzone SF sold more copies than all xbone launch exclusive combined,

will driveclub outsell forza, maybe,

but if you want to claim forza is better than driveclub then go on ahead, since you cant make the same claim when comparing forza to gran turismo

Death3480d ago

Forza is better than Gran Turismo.

The Last GT released,

Meta 81 http://www.metacritic.com/g...

The one before that,
Meta 84 http://www.metacritic.com/g...

The last Forza release,
Meta 86 http://www.metacritic.com/g...

The one before that,
Meta 79 http://www.metacritic.com/g...

To be fair, last gens last 2 releases:

Meta 91 http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Meta 92 http://www.metacritic.com/g...

XanderZane3480d ago

I guess Phil Spencer was right when he said, "We'll let our games do the talking for us." LOL!!

Gamerbeyond3480d ago

yeah, especially when killzone SF outsold ryse, dead rising, forza combined,

watchdogs
ps4 = 3.04 million
xbone = 1.07

destiny
ps4 = 3.25 million
xbone = 1.76million

FIFA
ps4 = 2.2 million
xbone = .61 million. haha lol.

XanderZane3478d ago

There are more Ps4 sold then XB1, so of course the sales will probably be higher for PS4. You're smarter then that right? lol!! I'm talking about the quality of the games. Forza 5, Horizon 2, Quantum Break, Sunset Overdrive. Compared to KZ:SF, Knack, Infamous SS, Drive Club. The games are only going to get better on XB1 once they start using DX12 and Cloud Tech.

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ftwrthtx3481d ago

75% isn't bad, and it's far from mediocre, so they shouldn't be too concerned. they should have never used the F word, though.

JonnyBigBoss3481d ago

Haha the F word. What about the Director's Tweet, though? He straight up ridiculed Grid Autosport, a game that had better reception coincidentally.

ftwrthtx3481d ago

I couldn't even play Grid Autosport on the PS3. Framerate issues gave me a migraine.

developers should not praise their own game. Release it to the masses, then let the chips fall where they may.

uth113481d ago

I wonder what the score would be if you removed the ridiculous ones like that 3/10 and had the weather system in place? In the 80s maybe?

This game is far from disastrous, plus now Sony now has one the best next-gen graphical showcases. Something they can wow potential buyers with on in-store demo units.

ShutUpDonny3480d ago

Yeah. It's not a fail. The reviews are very encouraging in my opinion. I'm not a racing fan, but 75% make me want to try it. At least the free PS+ version and who knows ? I might like it enough to buy it.

lelo2play3481d ago

Too much arrogance... sooner or later it comes back to bite you on the butt.

GribbleGrunger3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

It definitely does ... You're right there ...

blackbeld3481d ago

"sooner or later it comes back to bite you on the butt"

^^ Why? If you don't like the game anymore then you can sell it again to a friend. There is no DRM on it so WTF.

Minute Man 7213481d ago

This game is a arcade racer what did people expect? A deep sim like Forza or GT?

Ka7be3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

Forza a sim? lol just no!
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

#@novacav "handling somewhat similarly to how they do in real life"

NO! Real cars don't have PERMANENT driving aid! Even if you turn them off in menu they are still on thats what the vid explains.

Forza is not a sim get over it. Go play Assetto Corsa thats a racing sim.

Even the guys at Inside Sim Racing admitted that Forza is not a racing sim. T10 and MS marked FM as a sim to compete with GranTurimo so they can grab a chunk of GT fans to buy Forza but they fail cause all Forza combined did not manage to sell over 10 million copies.

novacav3481d ago

Forza is a sim in terms of vehicle customization and cars handling somewhat similarly to how they do in real life. Relative to Driveclub, it's a sim. Nobody's saying it's F1 2014.

Ka7be3481d ago (Edited 3481d ago )

While Granturismo franchise has sold over 80 million copies.

Ace Killa 083480d ago (Edited 3480d ago )

Great 80 million copies somehow makes the argument of forza being a sim not legit.

Death3480d ago

Right, because in the real world cars bounce off of guard rails and other cars just like they do in GT. Neither is "real" so get over yourself if you feel GT is a sim and Forza is not.

Either that or do us all a favor and hit a wall at 190 mph in your car and see for yourself how much of a sim GT is.

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Kevlar0093481d ago

Maybe because it's not quite an arcade racer and not quite a Driving Sim. I don't know how well the usual driver sim reviews, from what I've read it's missing that extra touch.

Yetter3480d ago

Forza Horizon sits inbetween sim and arcade, similar to this from my understanding, mind you I haven't played DC

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60FPS on PS5: Unofficial PS5 'FPS Boost' mods are radically improving PS4 back compat

Digital Foundry : Whether it's via FPS Boost or bespoke software upgrades, backwards compatibility on the current-gen consoles delivered an unexpected delight - the ability to liberate older console games from their 30fps limits, running them at 60 frames per second or even higher. FPS Boost did the business for Xbox Series consoles on an impressive range of titles, but there was always the sense that PS5 could do more. It's a hunch that checks out as a range of frame-rate unlocks are available for PS5, covering many must-have games - the major caveat being that only exploitable consoles running on older firmwares are invited to the party.

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darthv7297d ago

you love to see new life being breathed into older titles but damn the process to get there. It should be automatic that these work for everyone... not just those who exploit their systems. Really wish Sony and MS would keep this program going officially.

Psychonaut8597d ago

Damn this sucks. I want this shit so bad, but I’m not jailbreaking my console. And frankly I shouldn’t have to. I’m not a tech person, but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate? Or would that have to be a large patch?

dveio97d ago (Edited 97d ago )

"but is it really that hard for developers to unlock the framerate?"

I guess it's not.

But it has become a profitable business if you do so.

So no one would pay for only the framerate patched to being unlocked. So studios need to offer more than that.

But this would take more time, polishing and would cost more money. So they shy away, but won't unlock the framerate, either.

That's just my personal assumption. But from what I can comprehend technically, it shouldn't be difficult to unlock framerates via a patch for older games.

... if it hadn't became a business.

RaidenBlack97d ago (Edited 97d ago )

frame-rate unlock should be free ...
We've seen many devs offer free patches and updates to pretty old PC titles, even bonuses ... so why can't devs offer the frame unlock patch for free (in consultation with the platform-producers) for a title from just a generation earlier?

Einhander197297d ago

RaidenBlack

"frame-rate unlock should be free ..."

Obviously the result of that thinking is that developers aren't even going to do it.

If they had been allowed to charge $5-10 you would see incentivized developers doing it way more often.

People just always want everything for free, but it's not free to make the patch, people have to code it then other people have to test it, and there will always be other costs involved.

If people want dollar store gaming then expect to get what you pay for.

shinoff218396d ago (Edited 96d ago )

Raiden I might be wrong but last I thought it cost money to put patches out on consoles.

As far as me paying for it, I'm not all that interested tbh. Not enough to pay for it with older games, and newer games have been pretty decent about it for the most part.

dumahim97d ago

Sounds like the modder has to go in to make changes to unlock it on a game by game basis. "Simple" enough to do it unofficially, but to have it done officially, they need someone to go in a make that change, put out a patch and put it through certification, which I believe is not necessarily a cheap thing to do. It's questionable if going through this would then give them enough sales to make it worthwhile.

Inverno96d ago

Many games still have physics tied to framerate, i think it's cause they wouldn't want to go in and do anything extra. Then there's the 10 dollar upgrades they rather charge. The problem is that there's no compromise, cause if I could mod my PS4 and all I'd lose is online play then id jailbreak it immediately. Mods have done so much for PC games and they could do the same for consoles, but manufacturers hafto be willing to compromise.

shinoff218396d ago

It's not to hard to do and there's youtube videos that break it down really well. ANyway most of us here arent able to break are console anyway due to being up to date on firmware from playing

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Chocoburger97d ago

Yep, this sucks having to require a jailbreak for something that should be standard in our industry by now. I learned my lesson when PS4 was jailbroken and I didn't keep a console on low firmware for years, but now I'm holding onto two low firmware PS5s specifically because there are features I'll be able to do that you can't do on official firmware, so this will pay off for me soon enough.

Jin_Sakai97d ago

It should be a sin to let these games sit and be stuck at 30fps.

EazyC96d ago

RDR 2 not getting a 60FPS patch for PS5 was a crime.

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Driveclub - Brutal Backlog

Driveclub was a headline game at the start of the PS4’s life. A fabulous game – eventually - but what now, with the servers turned off? Is it worth your time? JDR starts its engines in today’s Brutal Backlog.

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Abear21778d ago

Bikes expansion might be one of the most underrated games of last gen. Incredible driver and bike animations + DC weather is craze.

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20 Best PS4 Racing Games You Should Play

Cultured Vultures: We won't stop until everyone appreciates how brilliant Driveclub is/was.

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Terry_B1198d ago

Are there even more than 20?

purple1011197d ago

i went to the article and theres only a couple racing games, cant find the button to move page on through all the adverts.

purple1011197d ago

ah its changed to a video now, strange, but il take it

Dfooster1196d ago

Dirt rally doesn't even make the list? Errm OK then.

Driveclub is over rated as well, with middle of the road handling and the 30fps killed it upon arrival for me.