AC Unity director on Wii U: “It couldn’t, it really couldn’t" handle it

Creative director says Nintendo's console is simply not powerful enough to handle the new game in an interview.

[mikel1015]

But we could have locked it down to wii u level and had parity

[Metallox]

I know it's a joke, but you're right, Incredible how Ubisoft was stupid enough to declare such a thing.

[vishmarx]

yeah why not just have 480p and lolparity across all platforms
i was lukewarm on this and now im totally not buying it,
its like ubi hired guys from MS for PR.
it screams BOUGHT OUT!!
is this how ms plan to compete this gen?
pathetic cancer of a company

[Army_of_Darkness]

Parity excuse only applies if that certain console has enough sales in ubisoft's eyes to develop on..... or just has enough money to convince them...

[darthv72]

Ubisoft could have done it. Even if it wasnt at the same fidelity as the other systems...the platform could certainly have its own version.

i am reminded how the wii received their own specific versions of games released for the 360 and ps3. A notable example would be Dead Rising: chop till you drop (a wii specific variant of the original from the 360).

To think that ubisoft couldt utilize several assets from the AC Unity game and make a nice variant is just silly on their part.

[GameDev1]

Stupid is not even close to describing the PR of Ubisoft with this game

First it was "Females are hard to animate", now this two jokes of parity and WII U not handling it in one day

If WII U can handle Black Flag, it can handle Unity, they just need to optimize well for each console.......... oh wait

[Ezz2013]

i love Ubisoft ...love love love

they don't downgrade their games
they don't hold back any console for the sake of the other
they always deliver their promised visions

you gotta love them ....i love love love them...will you guys love them with me ?!

*Bang head on the wall*

[Chrischi1988]

Hahaha, they are so funny^^ So why didnt the Wii U at least get AC Rogue? Because it couldnt handle that as well? No, there the sales would not be enough, right? It couldnt handle it? Crytek managed to make Crysis 3 for old gen, it had lower graphics settings, as the lowest possible on PC, but they made it happen and people were happy to be able to play that game. Ubisoft literally tries to take EAs place...

[UltimateMaster]

Maybe they couldn't for Unity.
But U culd've for Rogue.

[Kane22]

lmao

[FsterThnFTL]

Good one, not even the WiiU fanboys would think this a good & fair idea.

[Xsilver]

Lmfao

[MasterCornholio]

They wanted to avoid debate on the subject.

Well now they just created reasons for a debate.

Ironic isn't it?

:I

[AJBACK2FRAG]

Soooo frickin' ironic. Frostbite engine doesn't run on the Wii U. Oh hey actually it does. The Wii U doesn't do tessellation! Oh shit it actually does!!!! Don't ever forget, Miyamoto said himself the Wii U is upgradable!!! So any more excuses?

[ScottyHoss]

How do you upgrade the Wii U?

[Soc5]

They didn't really care about a debate, that's just a typical PR excuse
Most likely Steve from accounting was like, MS isn't gonna be happy if a lot more ps4 versions sell sooo let's make em the same.

it's funny when they say something that is so clearly an excuse for some corporate BS

Like when EA sells micro transactions and says it's to give gamers "options"

[spacedelete]

Wii U can't handle 900p and 30fps lol. such laughable hardware. Nintendo should just refund people for robbing people with such laughable hardware.

[benji101]

Ubisoft are trying to appeal to the dumbest section of gaming. The graphic whores.

[N4g_null]

Benji101 and they have accomplished that. I say milk those graphic where's to death with those hide and seek games that don't require skill. Eventually they will go broke a leave gaming, both the miller's and the sheep ducking all that milk up!

Yes I'm talking about spacedelete. Seriously if you don't know how weak all of these consoles are then you deserve to be pr rallied into a false idea of vast hardware superiority when that does not exist in this current gen.

It exsist on pc but not really on consoles. At best some things are only slightly better but not enough that the game become incompatible.

[Bronxs15]

@scissor runner
the consoles are all weak compared to pc but that doesnt stop great looking games from coming to playstation and xbox .

the issue you keep avoiding is wii u is weak compared to ps4 and xbox1. take the most simple specs as an example. 8gigs ram vs 2gigs ram.

[MRMagoo123]

@benji

If Ubi where going after graphic whores then http://n4g.com/news/1599351... wouldnt be a real article.

[TheXgamerLive]

You do know that its the ps4's slower CPU that caused that so called parity right?
The Xbox One is the more powerful CPU with a 1.75 vs Sony 1.6.
Regardless the games aimed at current gen only and it should look and play great. It all upgrades to 1080p so its all good.
Back on topic. A Wii U version would of required a totally different game as this game is CPU heavy as it has so much going on that's cpu bandwith heavy thus again a Wii U wouldn't play as it currently stands.

[DarkOcelet]

Yeah , keep telling yourself that . No wonder we see alot of 1080p games on the Xone :/ .

[TheXgamerLive]

It's dipsh*ts like you that make so many sony fans look bad. what I said was fact/truth idiot.

the cpu's not gpu's You do know theirs a difference, right.

Yes ps4 has a better gpu but Xbox One has a better faster CPU. This part isn't about graphics, its about the effects hat are going on while gaming, the coop, the robust AI, the individual choices things that require C_P_U and not GPU.
R-E-A-D the article and stop the adolescent reply's that you know nothing about.

FanBoy's on all sides need to stop doing these idiotic response. Again, R E A D the post and UNDERSTAND what you've read before looking at your computer and blindly typing away.

PS4 slower CPU. So where's the problem here? XB1? NO! PS4? YES!
With that said it will be a great game, move along and enjoy when it comes out.

UBI did a great thing for a great title that deserved it.
1080p 1080p we've been there done that, now it's time for better titles that are actually involved games.

[N4g_null]

Animation is not cpu heavy and there is more going on in bayo2. The animation for each character in asscreed can be copied and pasted into any character of that game since most characters are not that different structures.

You know what does take up cpu? Ai and varied events that take lots of strategy like complicated and engrossing deep game play. Every thing about ubisoft games is just scripts. There is no dynamic ai.

What happens if you are able to play as the person that must be taken out and you must use the game pad to summon guards to various areas as an online play creeps closer and closer to killing you? That can all be done on the game pad and would rock so much more that this boring explore and climb in a pretty hoody with a "story".

There is even middleware for the old wii that has learning ai you can train. Imagine if you could use the new 3ds to train certain guards and then import them to the wiiu to place them and play out an asscreed version of a tower defense game.

Now why am I the only person smart enough to figure this out yet ubisoft has thousands on the pay roll? All they seem to talk about is graphics. Do we not want better games for the so called powerful machines? Truthfully a good game can still stand with out the graphical perks. That is the whole point of consoles.

[isa_scout]

First he said it was made the same res and frame rate because they didn't want any arguments or debates about which version was better...Then he started talking about the CPU and GPU, so you can clearly see it wasn't because of the CPU or GPU or he would've flat out said that was the reason.
Listen, I might love my PS4, but I'm not dumb enough to think that games in the future(and even now) will maintain 1080p/60fps. As game developers try to push out better graphics, res and frame rate will inevitably take a hit....BUT we all know(unless you're blind), that most games released this gen have looked better on the PS4 or had better textures or shadow quality or even better frame rate. There is no reason that the PS4 should be held back by the limitations of weaker hardware. It sucks when they do it with the PC and it sucks when they do it with consoles. Each game should be built to use the strengths of each system it is being developed for.Period.

[metalmatters]

no one has confirmed the PS4's CPU runs at 1.6 what has been confirmed is that the PS4s cpu has higher benchmarks on test conducted. Also you cant tell me some slight overclocked cpu will make up for more power RAM bandwith and a superior GPU, please

[MRMagoo123]

maybe have a read of this before insulting people , where it is obvious a spoon would out wit you in a battle of brains.

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

PS4 cpu is the better performing of the 2 consoles, just in case reading is difficult

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

The Wii U's GPGPU is designed to take over a lot of the workload that CPU-heavy games use the CPU's to shoulder.
Ubisoft COULD have developed a version of ACU with that in mind.
They didn't because that would require actual effort on their part, and their past crappy efforts have turned the Wii U's fanbase against them.
That's the truth of the matter; Ubisoft is too lazy and scared to put forth the right kinds of effort that would be needed to make an AC-like game sell to that whole new audience of gamers, so they're sticking with the graphics whores that they've already hooked with minimal changes in effort on their own part.
They're taking the easy way out by relying on their own already-established fan base instead of trying to do something new that would appeal to a new fan base.
It's going to make them money, but when their fans tire of the series, it's going to leave them up sh*t creek without a paddle.

[ziratul]

I love people talking about things they know nothing about.

[pcz]

stories like these will become more and more common as we go deeper into this generation.

people may laugh and think ubisoft are making excuses, but in one or two years time, it will actually be impossible for wiiu to keep up with what the other consoles are doing tech wise, and will therefor miss out on all the multi-platform games.

people say, why not bring the game down to wiiu's level.. to me that is precisely the problem, not a solution. i for one dont want a gimped game, knowing superior versions are on other consoles.

this is why nintendo are losing and will continue to lose. because the gaming public arent stupid, neither will they settle for gimped games.

yet again the wiiu will have to rely solely on first and second party games because nintendo stubbornly refuse to get with the program

[frezhblunts]

pcz I dont mean to make you cry but wii u is staying this generation ;D. Hate all you want but if games are coming to ps4 at 900 p and 30 fps and people are enjoying it then I know the wii u will keep up

[Chrischi1988]

Look, this was never the case and will not be now. If what you said was true, why did the normal Wii get like all the CoD games, until the end of its lifetime, like Black Ops? It is because the developer can optimize its games for the console. Will it look as good? No, it wont, do Wii U owners care that much about that? No, they dont. Of course we like good graphics, we expect, that the Dev Studio at least tries to make the game look as good as possible on the hardware, but that doesnt mean we expect PS4 visuals. No, we dont. Worse graphics is also not what we call a gimped game, but it is funny how many still think, this is what we mean, not you of course, I mean in general.

If AC4 looked really good, what is the big trouble using that engine? We are talking about an annually renewed game, it is not like the jumps in graphics are so immense, that optimization couldnt help.

But then again, I really only played AC3 and didnt like it, so why do I even try^^ Maybe because it is becoming a trend for Ubi to make dumb statements^^

[Dubaman]

Here's a previous comment which still seems fitting to the occasion:

We have games which are supposed to be something new, refreshing, an instant classic; Watch Dogs and Destiny are 2 from recent memory and even they flounder in different aspects. However you will find people who will love those games and they will be instant classics in their eyes. The fact of it is though is that they won't be on the WiiU. Well, Watch Dogs is but who the hell cares about that any more and we can only guess on the quality of the final product.
My point is, though a lot of games coming out won't be of any interest to many people, they won't be on the WiiU and that starts a precedence with other third party developers which will get worse before it gets better. More games is always good.
What i'm so confused about is why the WiiU is being skipped over at all. The PS4 and XOne are basically PC's, or so the devs, publishers and journalists keep saying. So making a game for them should be easier than it was in the past, yet even then there are technical differences, "Resolution Gate' and all that. The WiiU is the PowerPC which is what Nintendo has always used so it's not like it's a huge surprise or difference for devs and publishers to get use to developing for. It seems as though publishers are trying as hard as possible to drain and save every last penny they can from customers, while funding their dev teams with as little as actually possible. Think about all the BIG third party releases coming on...they aren't on WiiU..they will more than likely have technical differences and probably content differences on the PS4 and XOne...The PC port will be a buggy mess (looking at you Ubisoft) and will rely on the modding community and a long series of patches to fix it. Probably with a locked 30FPS too. Looking at all that, there really is only one platform that the majority of third parties are truly supporting and it's the PS4, it's sales show this...i dont think they want to bother with anything else.

[travisbitter]

Nice one, and also... so true... sadly.

[Loadedklip]

UBIsoft should really stop explaining these things. Their PR is getting to EA's level.

[The_Truth_24_7]

LMAO!

[Sheed]

Such a lie.
It's very clear that this game isn't on Wii U due to financial reasons

[Metallox]

Development of Unity started long before Ubisoft knew their games don't sell on Wii U.

[spacedelete]

it is a lie even if Wii U could handle it. didn't Ubisoft declare Watchdogs was the last mature game for the Wii U that they would develop for just a few months ago ? these companies are such lying pos treating people like idiots.

[FsterThnFTL]

But WiiU is a Next-Gen console as much as PS4 & Xbox One, am I right Nintendo fans.

[shaw98]

Shhhhhhh, fanboys want to deny that generation is due to time and not power. Even if the wii u is more powerful than last gen. We dont want to allow that logic here.

[Spotie]

Generation can be due to either. Generally speaking, within the gaming industry, it's always referred to time, but there's also not been THAT large of a gap in power between competitors until just last generation.

[shaw98]

@Spotie

It is fact by legal definition that generation means a group of individuals living around the same time. Anyone that says any generation is based on strength created there own fanboy definition. Just because a man was born with out an arm does not mean he is not apart of the same generation as everyone else. (Dictionary definition below)

"gen·er·a· ;tion
ˌjenəˈrāSH(ə)n/

the entire body of individuals born and living at about the same time"

[Neixus]

In my honest opinion, i don't think Wii U would be able to handle games that aims to have realistic graphics, any well.

However, games that do have a cartoonish artstyle, looks really good on Wii U. And they're 1080/60fps aswell, such as super smash, mario kart etc etc.

[zero_gamer]

Neither of the three are next-gen consoles. Next-gen is the PS5, the fourth Xbox, and the seventh Nintendo console.

[LightDiego]

But it can handle Black Flag and Watch Dogs. That Ubisoft is a joke.
@FastertheTroll: at least Wii U can run Bayonetta 2, a game that you were begging for PC. I have no doubt that Bayonetta will be a better game than this annual franchise.

[FsterThnFTL]

I would take playing ubisoft's Far Cry 4, AC: Unity, The Crew at 2160p/60fps over Bayonetta 2 any day. PC cannot have it all but it has the most at its best.

@Lon3wolf

That is the ideal situation. But WiiU is an embarrassment that I would not want to own even if I got it for free. I would play Bayonetta 2 on it and then sell it for some cash. That game is good, every one of you WiiU gamers better buy it.

[Lon3wolf]

As a gamer I take them all, not tie myself to one platform and miss out on some excellent exclusives across the board.

[randomass171]

Wii U is an embarrassment now? Well give me rodeo clown shoes and call me Shirley. :p

[N4g_null]

If the wiiu is an embarrassment then so is your ps4 or Xbox one. Seriously only a ghetto elitist(choose any race that is living in poverty) could believe a $30,000 car is a Lamborghini. Which is exactly what you are doing. These consoles are so behind that tablets and phones are about to pass them. I mean hell even Intel is making a gaming cpu called denver.

The only thing that could limit the wiiu right now is the amount of shaders and maybe resolution. If your game can not be lowered to a lower standard then you sir do not have a good game. You have a graphic demo that is already obsolete.

Face it we console lovers are slumming it and fighting over who is last place in a graphics war the consoles can not afford.

So bring on the milk and rejoice at FasterThanFTL and others liking this pr so that we all can get proper generational jumps as these guys are milked to high heaven and then run to the internet to complain. Be proud of your self since you are keeping ubisoft in business and keeping them off the wiiu so we don't have to experience the great pr pillaging that is occurring. Hell I may just argue for such a cash cow to be created.

[frezhblunts]

LMAO but your okay with unity at 900 p and 30fps ? Shut up Faster the Wii U is awesome

[Ghost_Nappa]

Black Flag and Watch Dogs were cross gen.

[shaw98]

"in our minds we’d be cheating fans by providing a lesser version of the same game.”

Oh, so like you have not done that with every wii u port? If you did not want to cheat your fans in the first place then why the heck did you gimp all your wii u games? Still waiting for that AC3 dlc for wii u. Oh wait...

[Kane22]

i guess they forgot all about watchdogs not having any dlc planned for the wii u version. so there getting part of the game.

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

they have fans on wii u?

That news to me. Owned a Wii U since launch and since I had one and been on miiverse not one person call themselves a fan.

[badz149]

Unity might need to be downgraded for the Wii U to run it because it's developed for the more powerful systems. but why is Rogue also not making it's way to the Wii U, then Ubi?certainly not because of power, right?

[SpiralTear]

Of course. It's install base. While I could understand Ubisoft using the tech argument with Unity, the Wii U could handle Rogue no problem.

[ABizzel1]

This is all a perfect example of a developer running their mouth too much, and just sounding and looking stupid.

First the platform parity, because you don't want to stir debates (Who the #@$% cares outside of fanboys and sites looking for hits). If the game looks and plays good on both the PS4 / XBO, then what "GAMER" cares if the resolution is 1080p on their console and 900p on the other.

Now we have this BS, and if it's really not capable of being scaled to the Wii U, then is the Wii U at least getting Assassin's Creed: Rouge, because for now it's still PS360 exclusive, and it shouldn't be a problem to scale to Wii U.

I completely understand sales of 3rd party games not doing well on Wii U, and you not wanting to support it because of that, but don't spread this BS. It's about time for Ubisoft to get the boycott. They're becoming worse than Activision and EA with all the over promising and constant under delivering.

[MasterCornholio]

"Who the #@$% cares outside of fanboys and sites looking for hits"

Other than fanboys I can only think of three other groups.

1. The developers at Ubisoft
2. Comparison Sites
3. Microsoft due to the deals they have with the game.

Other than that I can't think of anything else.

[N4g_null]

They have been doing this since red steel. Remember the bullshots?

Really ubisoft weakness is showing. The are a assist or 3d model generating firm trying to become a game company. The true test of a game is if it is fun with out the finished graphics. Ubisoft knows they have no game play talent and the programmer must be screaming hell no at any and every idea that is not collide with bounding box and gift object which is a collect a ton gaming logic lol.

Ubisoft knows they have duds and they are trying to push them out before the gaming community gets feed up with them. I don't blame them it is working. Even the gaming sites are falling for it.

[superchiller]

More proof that the Wii U is really just a last-gen console. The system can't even match many multiplats that came out on PS3 and 360, despite having the extra RAM (no doubt the weak CPU plays a big part in that). Nintendo really cut far too many corners on the Wii U console, just to accommodate the expensive gamepad gimmick, and they're now paying the price for that in poor sales and financial losses every year. What a shame.

[Theyellowflash30]

Nintendo really cut far too many corners on the Wii U console, just to accommodate the expensive gamepad gimmick, and they're now paying the price for that in poor sales and financial losses every year. What a shame.

- LOL, another uninformed gamer that lets the Media dicate how they think. You know Sony is forcasting a loss of 2 BILLION this upcoming March right? You know the Xbox Division loses BILLIONS of dollars each year which they hide in android patent royalities. To sit back and make it seem like Nintendo is doing the worst when MS and Sony have far bigger issues is hilarious.

[badz149]

yeah sure whatever, dude. if you think THAT will make the Wii U gets the next AC or GTAV or whatever multiplat games the other consoles are getting, spread the word then. Maybe Ubisoft and other 3rd parties will start looking at the fact that Sony and MS are loosing money on their consoles business and say "screw MS and Sony, we'll make games for Wii U instead!" why not, right?

[Theyellowflash30]

@badz149

LOL, at a way to DODGE everything I said. I didn't even bring up GTA and AC (two games that I couldn't care less for)

TURD parties can make all the money they want on Sony and MS's systems, that doesn't change the fact that Sony is STILL forecasting a loss of 2 Billion and Microsoft's Xbox Division will probably be sold off in the next 10 years.

[Dunban67]

Can you source the info re Xbox losing billions a year? 1) they don t break out thier numbers for the Xbox div- That statement is wildly inaccurate speculation - there is more credible speculation that says they make money - even MSFT is not going to keep a division the size of Xbox is it looses billions a year at this Point in its lifetime

Sony as a whole IS struggling but the PLay Station Brand and division are doing extremely well and one of the biggest positive divisions in all of Sony - By all accounts Play Station is doing a lot right and it is paying off

Depending how you look at it many people can say Xbox won last gen if you calculated it by revenue and or software sold - I m sure counting digital that Xbox sold more software than the Wii.

All 3 companies have their challenges but looking at the gaming aspects of the 3 .companies Nintendo is doing the least to help itself and it shows via weak sales and the fact 3rd party dev are staying away more so than any other time over the last several generations if not ever- neither is a positive indicator

[Theyellowflash30]

@Dunban67

"Can you source the info re Xbox losing billions a year?"

How many do you want?

http://www.nowgamer.com/xbo...

http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...

http://gamepolitics.com/201...

http://www.neowin.net/news/...

http://bgr.com/2013/11/26/x...

http://www.escapistmagazine...

http://www.macobserver.com/...

[marloc_x]

Yes, and it had been troublesome for Ubi to render female assassins too..

[vengeance]

When did the English language change the definition of the word generation? I keep hearing people say wii u is last gen, guys its lack of power has nothing to do with its release date, that's like saying you and your parents are the same generation, you really need to get over this gen crap, in fact history has shown that weaker console are often more successful then their more powerful competition, not always of course but there are a examples.

[tlougotg]

Hey %uck it! You guys still have Smash Brothers, another Mario on the way (im guessing), Zelda and the other usual Nintendo titles so wtf needs third party suppport? Am i right?

[Theyellowflash30]

LOL, just like "The Crew" is a new gen experience only.... but they ported it to the Xbox 360.

Ubisoft sucks so much. And not because they aren't bringing their shitty ASS Creed games to Wii U, but because they spew so much BS its funny.

[MasterCornholio]

Its funny that they also forgot about the PS3.

:I

What's is going on with Ubisoft?

[badz149]

nothing. just running their mouth too far. people aren't stupid and they should just say "for financial/install base reasons" straight away instead of giving lame excuses and none of this crap would be a debate.

[Paprika]

I don't care tbh.... I'll play it on my ps4 and wait for the next Zelda game or metroid, or xeno, Mario, pikmin, dragon quest, monster hunter, bayonetta, smash bros etc. The day I buy a main multi plat for wiiu, will be the day I likely lost the plot!

[higgins78]

Luckily for us Wii U owners throwing everything but the kitchen sink at a game doesn't always - if ever - translate into a BETTER game, even a good one. Bayonetta 2 (plus 1) and Smash Bros should fill the 'void' left by another 6 monthly/turning more frequently Assassins Creed.

[MetroidFREAK21]

Before I got rid of my Wii U, I played more original Wii games than Wii U games. There just isn't enough to warrant the purchase. MK8 helped, as Will Smash Bros, but I already have it for my 2DS and don't need another version of the same game. A decent system, just no good games

[randomass171]

Smash for Wii U and 3DS aren't necessarily the same game though. I'm really liking the 3DS version but I think it just makes me itch for the Wii U one since that version will more than likely have all the customization options I've come to expect from Smash and of course GCN controllers.

[SynestheticRoar]

Ubisoft PR reeks of ass.

[obmas]

wii u is previous gen hardware. of course it cant handle current gen games

[KaladinStormblessed]

Please don't spread your stupidity around N4G. There's already enough.

[JacketsNest101]

technically speaking, with how quickly the market for tech advances, a computer bought yesterday it outdated.

[hazelamy]

too much work more like.

[Activemessiah]

They already announced it that there won't be anymore mature games after Watchdogs so really, they never even tried... just say no and be done with it... no need for excuses.

[truechainz]

lol they already said no more mature games so is there a need for this person to say anything? I mean wasn't planning on playing this for my PS4 or X1 either, but still. So much coming out in November yet all these weird comments coming from Ubi.

[PigPen]

You nailed it.

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

If it could run on the One with low resolution & FPS... It could run on a Wii U

[JacketsNest101]

Quote from the article,

"I don’t think that would be fair to fans, to sell the same game but with different levels of experience. Even the seamless nature of the series and the scale of the game right, we couldn't do that. We never load Paris. It wouldn't be possible, in our minds we’d be cheating fans by providing a lesser version of the same game.”

Funny, cause it seems like you do that with every game other game you made for the Wii U.

[Dunban67]

Why would anyone be offended that the Ubi guy stated something that is almost certainly true - and no one on this board insisting it is. It true has no credible evidence or even hypothesis to say otherwise.

I only own a Wii u - I know it does not have the horsepower that the XB1 or PS4 have- for better or worse there will be games made for those 2 consoles that can t be replicated on the Wii U

The fact is, Ubi fortunately supported the Wii U when no one else was- including Nintendo - Ubi lost money doing so but continued supporting it anyway - No rational person can blame them for backing away from the Wii u for the foreseeable future -

The way many Nintendo supporters talk about UBI and other 3 rd party efforts combines with the sales of their games - why would they really think about supporting Nintnendo in that type of environment ?

[AKR]

Ubisoft's problem was that they seemed to be doing more out of charity than actually seeking a proper business opportunity. For instance; as to how they can complain about a low-budget launch title (ZombiU) selling 700k + units is far beyond my comprehension.

Let's also look how they've been giving U owners slap after slap. Remember the whole Rayman Legends fiasco? They delayed that game 2 weeks before it's release to announce that it'd be coming 7 months later and was no longer an exclusive. What about Ghost Recon Online never re-surfacing again? What about the lack of DLC and bad optimization in ONLY the Wii U versions of AC III & IV? Same with Splintercell: Blacklist and it's lack of proper advertising.

You see; it's as if Ubi was setting themselves up to fail because every bit of "support" they gave, they ended up undermining it themselves. Same story with EA ~ but that's even worse.

[Kumomeme]

you actually not seeing the bigger picture
people was offended to biased and unlogic comment from ubisoft

[CouldHaveYelledUiiW]

Like I have been saying for a while, I think some Developers are trying to rig the system into a Uniform Format.

And I think Nintendo is the most bothersome because the because even when they make a toe to toe (on horsepower) system- Nintendo generally adds something unconventional that cost more development. (2nd Screen, Motion Controls)

In a Machiavellian way, it makes sense because it allows them to maximize dev cost-

BUT
I wish they would just admit this and stop lying about it because many are losing respect for them.

If
They don't want to dev on a platform then DON'T- but they should STOP running other Plats into the ground so that may feel better about their Choices.

[AKR]

Exactly how much R&D does it take to put a map down on the Gampead screen, and enable off-TV play? For a game like AC; the second-screen opportunities are there, but not really a necessity - so I doubt that's the issue. A game like Watch_Dogs on the other hand just seems like a natural fit.

People keep saying it's the Gamepad that causes developers to sideswipe the system - but believe you me that's not it. Indies seem to deal with it just fine, and those are tiny studios made up of 1-10 people on average. Even Nintendo themselves don't always push the Gamepad with some of their games (DK: Tropical Freeze, MK8, just to name a few).

It's just the stubbornness of these juggernaut devs. They keep looking for excuses that sound more professional than the truth, which is simply: "We don't want too". Yet, when they try to use these 'out-of-thin-air' excuses; THEY'RE the ones who look like idiots.

[Kumomeme]

just do it like kojima
he just said clearly that he actually dont had idea to implemented the gamepad for the gameplay
thats it
no biased comment like ubisoft
beside,not hear kojima saying about wii u could make it or not

[CouldHaveYelledUiiW]

I agree.

Vigil games (RIP) makers of Darksiders- Said that the port to WiiU took them 1 Day and that they got the Gamepad working by adding 1 line of code.

EVEN
a straight port of many of the AAA games would be just fine. (and the WiiU has about 5 controller opt.)

But
If you go back to WiiU you launch and year 1. You will read countless stories of Dev. sitting on the fence trying to think of something EPIC to do with the controller.
That was probably more bs.

[dubal-e]

Personally I just think the dev team don't have the skills to use the Wii U tech properly. How to explain how Nintendo, Retro, and Platinum get games to run at such a high level on the U.

[Kumomeme]

lot of 3rd party game on wii u was lazy port
surely wii u not powerfull as xbox1 or ps4
but it had more resource than ps3 and 360
more modern and powerfull gpu,and 4x ram available for game plus with 3x edram size than 360 which is had 10mb edram

[Reeze]

Very disappointing; I've recently gotten into Assassin's Creed and I really can't afford another system and yearly online payments...

N4G community, what are your favorite AC games that I should check out until I can get a PS4 or Xbox One?

[Kumomeme]

funny assasin creed rouge could'n make it on wii u..
they should said it straightly wii u owner doesnt play assasin creed

ubisoft pc and nintendo biased,from bad port of watch dog and ac4,now to wii u

even cryengine are available on wii u,
and yet fc4 and division downgrade might incoming
dont be fooled by their trailer and gameplay footage

[KaladinStormblessed]

ACU could be ported to WiiU, the GPGPU is made to take the load of cpu intensive stuff. The gameplay would be the same, maybe a few less civilians and Npc's but nothing too important. Graphics wouldn't be quite as good but gameplay first right?

[Movieworld]

The Wii U is doomed. And thats coming from a Nintendo fan who has only ever bought Nintendo. It cant survive on Nintendo games alone...

[dubal-e]

Nintendo gonna have to break out the old wallet and get some 3rd party games back and some exclusives. Their system is still very awesome it just needs games. Hell A zombie U 2 funded by Nintendo with online co op and multiplayer would really do go nowadays. I'm not talking Call of Duty or Destiny numbers but everybody loves a good zombie game with Online. Zombie U part 1 had no online and that really killed it. Especially since the local multiplayer was very fun.

[kakashi81]

I just wished Nintendo went with a better GPU, maybe the 5760 radeon and 6GBof Ram .

[PigPen]

How can you say that when no one knows what the Wii U's GPU is?

[PigPen]

I'm not paying Ubisoft no mind. In fact, they are not on my radar. Speaking for myself, "ZombiU" is way to easy and look like shit. Splinter Cell: Blacklist is a good game. I'll co-sign that game. It looks good but not next gen good on Wii U. It's also plagued with bugs. His legs shake often like he's nervous or have to take a shit. And no, I didn't buy them brand new but from Amazon. I got ZombiU, Splinter Cell: Blacklist and Deus Ex: Human Revolution new for $45 dollars. While I like Deus Ex the most out of those three, their last gen ports and don't cut it once it's beat. I look at Mario Kart 8, Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros U and the Zelda U trailer and say they are lying. Assassin's Creed was always mediocre in graphics at best, and Wii U can't do what? I'll buy Watch Dogs when it hits Amazon for about $10 dollars and for good reasons. The Xbox One/PS4 versions looks almost last gen and I'll hate to see what the Wii U version looks like. I don't read Wii U owners even talking about it so I know I'm not alone on this. Super Mario 3D worlds and Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze is beautiful (mainly Donkey Kong TF). I've heard some Wii U owners trying to hype ZombiU to justify their purchase. That game is shit. I only like what Ubisoft did with the Gamepad for that game.

[polarmer]

the ps4 and xbox one couldnt either

[polarmer4]

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