Destiny players are going to war over Xur: Agent of the Nine

GameZone: "There appears to be some unrest among Destiny players. With the latest update having fixed much of what was wrong with Destiny's loot system, the Cryptarch is no longer the most hated person in the Tower. No, no, that honor how belongs to Xur: Agent of Nine, who appears to be the cause of a Destiny's first Civil War between Guardians."

[Neonridr]

lol, too funny.

Although as a fellow Warlock user myself, I agree, what's with the shaft on us Warlocks. I wanted an exotic chest piece myself...

[Christopher]

I missed one weekend, but so far 3 out of at least 4 hunter exotics have been helmets.

Yay?

[jhhood]

At least they have been different

[Gamer1982]

might have been differnt but still helmets.. Need a weapon..

[Christopher]

@jhhood: One was really just crap, otherwise just two helmets for focusing on each of the subclasses. If we get repeats in week 5, then I'm sensing a weakness with this game's itemization limitations.

[joab777]

So did i, but b/c I didn't get it, something even better happened. I did the raid and got a chest piece. Now all I need is a raid helmet to get to 30.

I love seeing an mmo as big as Destiny b/c now the normal mmo complaints and arguments get a huge spotlight on them. Anyone who has played mmo's over the yrs knows all too well the forum arguments that never end. Casual vs. Hardcore players, how u obtain gear, etc. etc. It's an almost impossible task to make everyone happy b/c some play it 100 hrs a week and some on 10 or 15.

As far as xur is concerned, ppl hate that u can buy something they earned. Really? How did u earn it? B/c I bought mine w/ strange coins I got from Nightfall on level 28. We r all playing the same high level content, getting gear in various ways.

I do think for PvP, and I'm no good at it, skilled players should be able to obtain cosmetic items that set them apart though. Like the white shader for beating the raid. Though I've done it 2x and havnt gotten it.

[Dynasty2021]

Shaft on us Warlocks?

Dude, we've had Warlock gear the past 2 times. And Sunbreakers have been there every time so far.

They're no different to bounties. Bungie has said "these items are available for X scenario", and they're randomly plucked each time.

It's just the pool is so pathetically small that it annoys people.

Look at the Queen's Wrath bounties. "Headshot 200 fallen" and "kill 3 devil walkers" has been there almost every single day.

[Neonridr]

we have had the Sunbreakers like 3 times and a helmet once for Warlocks. I even used 23 motes of light on the exotic helmet engram and got a Hunter helmet.. lol

I have 23 coins right now, so I am debating getting the sunbreakers and then having money left over or spending it all on Red Death...

decisions, decisions..

[ABizzel1]

As a Warlock as well, Yeah the shafting is real.

I have over 30 strange coins, because there's NEVER anything for me to buy. I bought the Sunbreakers when they first came out, then I bought the Helmet of Apo?? whatever it is, and I've been able to hold on to my coins for the last couple of weeks, because there's been nothing.

I got Suros Regime after an insane mission, then was a bit mad it went on sale, but better weapons for everyone means easier time in missions.

I bought an exotic engram and thankfully I got the helmet I wanted Light Beyond Nemesis.

Unfortunately my fellow Warlocks, I understand your pain, but I cannot go to war against Xur for he has been somewhat good to me, and I needed him for a couple of my Exotic weapon bounties.

Now the Cryptarch is fair game.

[Neonridr]

@ABizzel1 - I took a chance with my motes of light last night on an exotic helmet engram.. and go figure, for a Hunter. I now have an exotic chest piece and helmet for a Hunter.. Might be time to make a backup character.. lol

I am debating spending my 23 strange coins on Red Death, but I don't know how good it is. I didn't have enough coins last week for Suros otherwise I would have bought it. Although I have Doctor Nope (legendary Auto) and it is actually quite good - 72 clip magazine and a high rate of fire means I can just simply unload on guys..

[ABizzel1]

@Neonridr

LOL, I'm sorry for your loss.

I got an exotic engram from a strike, and it turned out to be a Hunter's Arm, so not quite as bad as losing motes of light, but still disappointing. We shall both be Hunters on our next character XD

I found 2 Doctor Nopes, and had to get rid of one for some Ascended Energy.

As for Red Death I don't know either. 23 strange coins is a bit high (although I have it), and for some reason I just don't like buying weapons, I guess since I'm doing just fine with what I have.

Primary: Suros Regime *Exotic* / Doctor Nope (Back Up)
Secondary: Sniper??? (Legendary) / Pocket Infinity *Exotic* (Back Up)
Heavy: Machine Gun??? (Legendary) / Super Good Advice *Exotic* (Back Up)

But getting back on topic, Xur has been good to me, so my fellow Warlock Brothers and Sisters, please don't go to war. Instead Praise the Sun for a better weekend offering XD lol

[Panthers]

As a Sunslinger, the gloves are incredible so I dont mind. You can only have one exotic piece of gear equipped so Im ok not getting any others.

[Neonridr]

I want the Heart of Praxis Fire or whatever it is (chest piece for Warlock).

I am contemplating getting the Sunbreakers as they look pretty cool, and I will still have 10 coins left over to save up for next week's item.

[ABizzel1]

There are better ones as well.

The Helmets are all good and very different.

Apotheosis Viel: Is all about survival, it keeps you health extremely high.

Light Beyond Nemesis: Is all about support and a HUGE HUGE HUGE help for Nightfall missions and Vault of Glass.

Skull of Dire Ahamkara: Is all about Grenades, and gaining great boost with Grenade kills.

It sucks you can only use 1 exotic armor (my guess is they'll patch that later, to reach level 40 you have to have all exotic armor maxed out), but it's always great to have options depending on the situation.

The Chest plates are good too, but I don't have those yet.

[admiralvic]

@ Abizzel1

"The Helmets are all good and very different. "

Not that it matters, but helmets are typically the best exotic armor piece to have. There also aren't as many arms and I believe legs (in fact I only recall two exotic boots existing) as there are helmets.

"Light Beyond Nemesis: Is all about support and a HUGE HUGE HUGE help for Nightfall missions and Vault of Glass. "

While I originally thought Keeper of the Pack was a useful upgrade, it's quite honestly the worst exotic power. The issue is that every strike so far has had an "easy" way to do it. Prime had that small room to the left and another thing I never did, Phogoth could be killed from that room behind where you start to fight him / where you respawn / where the shrieker spawns or just popping between the rooms, The nexus mind was the easiest because he could be killed where you spawn and the only threat up there was a minotaur that you could just keep aggroed away from the damage dealers making it virtually impossible to fail, heck even the current strike has the boxes in the top left (you're practically immune to damage back there and have a number of cracks to pick off adds and damage the boss). Plus a lot of people have realized that you can simply go to orbit and will respawn in the nightfall / strike with some ammo ready to kill the boss.

As for the raid, I would say it's equally worthless. Most sections of the raid you're in a fairly confined and small area fighting off enemies and you have at least 30 seconds to figure out how you're reviving that person before you can even make it happen. At most, this ability might help you revive someone and survive a supplicant attack, but thats like trading "extremely high health" and "grenade skills" for a move that might, in theory, help during a single section of the raid. With this being said, the helmet is garbage on the hard raid because you can't revive people in general.

So the only real perk it adds are the orb drops, though most of these skills are not particularly useful in high-level PVE. Outside of Ward of Dawn and Sunsingers revive (forget the name), there really isn't any super that would be advisable outside of maybe golden guns during Atheon, though Times Vengeance takes care of any super problems you might be having.

"It sucks you can only use 1 exotic armor (my guess is they'll patch that later, to reach level 40 you have to have all exotic armor maxed out), but it's always great to have options depending on the situation. "

Not only does that make no sense, it ignores what exotics are suppose to be. For starters, a maxed exotic gives 30 light versus 27 for a legendary. So we're talking 9 light that is suppose to give 10 levels (lol?). Even then, raid gear also gives 30 light and thats how you get to level 30 instead of just 29. So full exotic or full raid or 1 exotic and 3 raid is going to be level 30 regardless. Bungie would need to implement new equipment to hit a new cap, which I am not completely certain they will do. This really doesn't need to be further detailed though.

Anyway, the point of exotics are that they're suppose to be a "capper" to finalize your speciality. They're suppose to offer 1 ability that can be considered huge to the point of game changing (LOL!) that allows you to excel in the area that you choose to go. They're not intended to be a group of items used to make your character extremely imbalanced.

[Ozmoses]

Should of bought an Exotic chest armor from him when he was selling Gallajhorn...

That's how I got my Voidfang Vestments...

http://www.bungie.net/en/Le...

Luckily I got an armor for Warlocks... this week I bought the Exotic Helm engram and got Light Beyond Nemesis (Warlock)

http://www.bungie.net/en/Le...

[Ozmoses]

hahaha disagree all you want... you're just jealous because I got the good stuff

[brbobcat]

This is would be a better story than the actual campaign

[OmegaShen]

Not even close, but how would you know know? Have you played the dlc? Because if not, then you don't know the full story.

[Kevlar009]

I'd hate a generation where every game is a DLC puzzle piece. "Spend $60 now so you can spend another $30 later to get the content and story that should've been there in the first place".

[FullmetalRoyale]

That's what I play stories for. For dlc.

Smh.

[Deividas]

Wow. And its because of people like you that they can get away with this kind of stuff. Good job.

[irokster]

Im sure youre ready to give up another $30 for that DLC but I'm sure as hell not.

[Scatpants]

I would be OK with the DLC if the main game felt like it had any story whatsoever. Your basically just walking your ghost to an assortment of computers. The main game feels like it doesnt even have a story so if the story is all in the DLC then im done with this game. I'm already pretty much completely bored of it anyway.

[DonkeyWalrus]

If Destiny is an MMO, then it's the worst MMO I've ever played. I don't know if you've played other MMOs, but they generally have a shit ton of content even when first released. Future DLC expansions are absolutely no excuse to not have a complete story at launch. If they charge a full $60, then they need to release a full game.

[slappy508]

If anyone thinks it's okay for a company to cut 12 missions from the disc then release it in future and call it "DLC" you need to get your head checked. As much as i enjoyed destiny's gameplay, Bungie and Activision can suck it!

[TheSaint]

@ Omegashen: Learn what a joke is.

[thereapersson]

Haha, poor OmegaShen... not even one single agree at the time of this posting.

You dun goofed, bro.

[DragonKnight]

All that needs to be said about Destiny is in its Honest Trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[AtariFanboy]

Hunters aren't doing any better, we keep getting exotic helms with exotic helm engrams.

[ABizzel1]

The Exotic helms are the best armors for the Hunter though.

I'm a Warlock as well, but Xur has been good to me as I've needed him for Weapon Bounties, I got Sunbreakers + Apotheosis Veil from him, and took a chance on an Exotic Engram and it turned out to be Light of Nemesis helm (YEZZZZZZZ)

So I can't support this war, but I understand my fellow Warlock's pain. Hunters and Titans put down your arms, and let us converse among one another. #PraisetheSun

[TreMillz]

Quite hilarious to be honest Lmao

[Bushwick]

Titans melee!!

[VitaOwner]

Lol this is too true. I have never seen exotic boots or chest pieces for war locks. That better change next time he comes or I'm gonna Tiger Uppercut this dude off the tower.

[OmegaShen]

I got a chest piece from a exotic emgram, it was for the warlock.

[DarkZane]

He also brought red death again. Apparently, it's too hard for bungie to make it so he can't bring the same piece of armor or weapon twice before he sold everything at least once.

[gamertk421]

He still had inventory. He doesn't want to break out the new hotness til his stocks are low. He's a businessman, lol.

[lameguy]

Ugh, and next week: "Look you fanboys all know that the number of Red Deaths provided by Bungie were units **shipped** to Xur not units **sold** by Xur"

[Jury]

I picked up red death... Not bad

[KingKevo]

I... I... ...just no. No, no no.

Just say 'patch that sh*t Bungie'; but this... NO!!! They start talking like Bungie does with their Old English that is supposed to sound smart and noble. But in all honesty it's pretty ridiculous. In German we have this wonderful word 'fremdschämen'; and that sums it all up for me tbh.

[poppinslops]

What's that the word for taking pleasure in someone else's misfortune?

Shazenfreud?

[KingKevo]

That would be 'Schadenfreude' and you are right about the definition. I think the word is now used normally in English.

The word I used though means that you feel shame for something somebody else has done, or as a dict would put it: "the feeling of shame on someone else's behalf; the feeling of shame for someone else who has done sth. embarrassing".

[poppinslops]

Danke!

[CorndogBurglar]

I was always a fan of the "Sheizerslide" myself.

[PsylentKiller]

Cryptarch is still trolling me. I got common items from green engrams, WTF Bungie.

[Cryptcuzz]

Cryptarch is the biggest troll ever. I never get anything good from him and for the second week that I have bought the exotic engram, I got a freaken titan chest armor (but I'm a hunter!)

Bungie needs to implement some kind of smart loot in the game. At least make it so that there is a rare chance it could be for another class. Smh.

[CorndogBurglar]

You could always store that other class gear in your vault so you'll have it in case you start up anither character.

[jegheist2014]

i have like 19 coins left im saving them by god i want decent sniper exotic or chest piece for warlock.

bracers and red death twice now from xur

[RobLoPR]

So is it actually fun after level cap?

[poppinslops]

Well, it depends on your definition of 'fun'...

Are you one of those people who gets sick of endlessly killing the same enemies?
'Cause that's what you'll be doing a LOT of, should you 'journey' beyond level 20...
Going to the same parts of the same planets and killing the same guys over and over and over again and again until one of them randomly drops something you might not be able to use...

'Fun'

[Shield]

I wish Xur's inventory would change every few hours like some of the other vendors.

[we420]

With the way this is going I wonder if they could make a new gamemode out of this. A Team Deathmatch with only one class on a team. Hunters Vs Warlocks, Titans Vs Hunters etc. If balancing isn't an issue, I would like this

[Scottyabanks]

It could just be me, but it sure seems like the drop rate for strange coins is dramatically reduced while xur is present in the tower. I happily received the sun breakers the first weekend they were available due to the huge amount of coins I accrued since launch day. However, last weekend, he offered a warlock helmet for 13 strange coins. I had 12. Literally, for the entirety of Saturday, I sat and reluctantly farmed for blue and purple engrams. I leveled up my cryptarch twice, and not one single coin. The best item I received was a mote of light from leveling up my cryptarch. Not even a purple, which I now understand has been fixed with the latest update. Enter Sunday, xur long gone, I log in to complete the daily challenges, etc. My first blue engram within 10 minutes. Can you guess what it was?

Edit: spelling

[Jack_Reacher]

Do remember this is only m y opinion but I was so enjoying this game right up to about lvl 24. Now it just feels like a slog and no fun. Cannot seem to get decent pick ups. Do the same old strikes over and over. And everytime I open the game box I see a reminder for the first 2 dlc s. Which make me think. Yeah I know where this game is going. Im not sure they are going to make a profit on that 500 000 000 they spent on this game.

But on the flipside how can I complain about doing the same thing over and over when thats all I do on bf4. Yet I bloody love that game. Metro conquest for the win.

[I_AM_ CANADIAN_1989]

I just wish this game had a story and I wish Nathan fillion was my ghosts voice actor. I absolutely despise Peter dinklage's voice acting sounds so fake and it's so hard to give a shit about what he's reading from a script. I've played so many story missions and so many strikes and I still don't know why I'm doing the things im doing. What's a cortex and why should I care about scion flayers or whatever the heck my fake ghost is calling them. All this game does is paint a picture of futuristic human being oblivious to the universe around them more than ever. It's sad I feel ashamed to be associated with such stupidity and cluelessness. Who's the cabal ? Sorry don't know, just kill them tho they bad.
Who's the fallen ? Umm sorry don't know that either, but yeah they bad to so make sure you kill them too, trust me you will feel like you're making the universe better.
Who's the hive ? Haven't you learned by now we destiny humans stupid you've been dead along time and we weren't but you know just as much as us lol
Where are they all from and why are they working for the darkness? Geez that's a good question would you happen to know because we sure as hell don't know why . What makes them try to conquer everything in our universe and fight amongst each ? Umm because darkness yes that's my answer darkness.

It's so sad destiny has so much potential in regards to the story too bad Bungie was trying to one up crysis's shitty story attemps.

Ps still playing level 28 hunter all legendary gear and exotic weapon and armor. Have over 100 hrs logged though 70 of them contained face palm after face palm when I had know idea what was going on and what I was actually accomplishing through every mission/strike, while being forced to listen to the worst voice actor ever. Literally the worst story I've ever witnessed if you can even call it that. Just wondering how Bungie can patch this. Can it really be patched. The game just literally has no story no interactions you can't even have real dialogue with npc's and what's with the fact the aliens never talk or have any subtitles. How did Bungie go from halo to this I just don't understand. If they wanted to reduce cutscenes for their insanely repetitive game could of just added the option to skip them. There's really no excuse for the lack of any substance in this game.
Did I mention why the F isn't my ghost Nathan fillion ( that guy is the white version of Morgan freeman, just have to listen to him he sells a story everytime ESP since he has space acting experience.

[itisallaboutps]

The problem os they dont people to reach level 30 within less than month of the games release. They should have just had the level cap at 100 and added more gear.

[Knuckle Duster]

As a lvl 26 warlock I have such a love hate with this game! Almost reached my limits......this grid/repetition is so over the top! How could Bungie call this there best work?! Destiny has more holes in it than Swiss cheese !!

[Sadist3]

Are people serious? Operation protect Xur? Wow, no wonder why people think gamers are geeks...a lot of them are.

[InTheZoneAC]

why complain?

just buy something, dismantle, upgrade your legendary gear.

Then when you find something you want to keep all you have left to upgrade is that newly purchased piece...

[SojournUK]

I'm just pissed any legendary engram I get now gets transformed into transcendent shards...wtf bungie!

[lex-1020]

Are we seriously considering comments from Reddit as news now?

[BobbyJ1986]

People miss the loot cave so much, they look for one in the real world:

http://workrevolt.com/dlc-r...

[spoonard]

Now I just need to save up 20 more strange coins for Red Death!!! I want that gun SO bad...

[ScaryMonkey]

I'm a lvl 29 Warlock, this weekend I bought two Exotic engrams from Xur knowing full well they could end up being for a different class but hoping it would be something I could use, the first one turned out to be the same Titan helmet he was already selling and the other was some exotic Hunter class helmet, I rolled the dice and I lost, oh well Sunbreakers will have to due for now.

Warlock for life!