This is the most powerful PvP weapon in Destiny and it's impressive

GC - "A Destiny gamer got this weapon after he completed the Vault of Glass on hard. And it completely destroys people and it's not even arguable."

[neocores]

Ner incoming

[Smurf1]

Yeah the gun is definitely getting a nerf. I need to get to level 28 asap to do the vault of glass.

[Gazondaily]

LMao at the nerd excitement for it. Actually makes me wanna get that gun now!

ugh did he just say "hella-heated" Lmao....oh my days...

[PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt]

why nerf it what are the odds of you playing against this kid or a person with this gun.... if he found it and its a rare legendary leave it

[Gazondaily]

It's hardly competitive though is it? Shouldn't it be based on skill rather than luck?

Mind you, if I had that gun I would pray it didn't get nerfed lol.

[ScottyHoss]

agreed, NGL the guys pretty bad at aiming, unless he was slacking because of how OP that thing is (now that I think about it he's gotta be pretty good to have gotten through he vault on hard).

[-Foxtrot]

This is why bringing your guns into the competitive online was such a bad idea.

Doesn't really become about skill, it just becomes "my weapon is stronger then yours"

I don't see why starting out with the same guns and searching the map to find better ones is such a bad idea now

[no_more_heroes]

Like old school Halo mp.

[Utalkin2me]

Or like Quake.....=P

[Shadonic]

ehhh this is sorta a special case, the exotic weapons seem to be where the problems really arise, the basic rifles are all balanced out damage wise with impact and rate of fire along with player skill being a big factor, I've defeated hoards of high level players going on 10 kill streaks with just a uncommon shotgun and i was like lvl 15 there. While this weapon is indeed OP so far its the only one of its kind to be out in the wild. There's more than just weapon x > weapon y in damage.

Yea the weapon needs a nerf but when you have people rushing at you blindly like the hive in the live action destiny trailer, I'm pretty sure that anyone with enough sense to use their weapon could do the same.

[Sp1tfireXM]

Agreed, those guys were just running into it like idiots

[itBourne]

No even base weapons are the problem... feel like im playing CoD not a Bungie shooter. Takes a lot of the skill out of it.

[amnalehu]

That gun is nice. I hope they leave it.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

yes, Balance is key!

This is the reason FPS are becoming increasingly sh. they have to many guns, to keep balanced..

We need the formula of Rock, Paper, Scissors, in gun selection.

[ScottyHoss]

gun, grenade, melee; rock, paper, scissors (not in that exact order). The guys he was playing against went about stopping him the wrong way too, not one used their grenade to make him move towards them, or lured him into QBC so shotgun him. Very rarely would they take the first shot either. A quick change to a more defensive class loadout and a shotgun melee combo would do the trick, instead of running straight at him every time. Utilizing the turning center piece with special ammo for a sniper could also do it.

[MaxwellBuddha]

Because Bungie is an incompetent developer who can't make anything of merit without Microsoft holding their ***ing hands.

Case in point: Halo was going to be a RTS game before Microsoft slapped them upside their stupid fat faces. That should tell you all you need to know.

[Jubez187]

Honestly, once I got my Suros I started dominating. yea that balance attack, but higher tier weaps have better range and acc so

[InTheZoneAC]

at some point in the future when earth is torn apart and people are living planet to planet, if one soldier finds a legendary weapon I expect it to be "legendary".

Then all the people that challenge him will complain his gun is to OP. They'll all whine and complain and say it'll only be fair if they called a timeout and used the same weapons. And only if you find a gun on that battleground at that point in time are you allowed to use anything "better"

that's what I got out of the OP's post.

[christrules0041]

Just wait till the iron banner comes out. It's going to be my equipment is better then yours plus the servers were closer to me giving no one a chance in hell to even kill me.

[no_more_heroes]

I've just reached the moon. Haven't even tried the Crucible yet. Not too eager to get my face stuffed down my throat, especially with guys running around with weapons like this...

[Shadonic]

so far theirs only 2 people I think with that weapon out of millions so unless you have extremely bad luck nothing to worry about, also big tip if you have a shotty make sure it has good range and dont depend on hip fire. Higher impact also doesnt always mean better weapon, depends on your playstyle experiment and if you find weapon that works for you and come across a higher level weapon DON't get rid of the old one. also if your on PS4 you could add me

[no_more_heroes]

psn id: keybladeKnight23

[ScottyHoss]

I'm also on PS4 if either of you are interested. PSN: ScottyHoss

[amnalehu]

You will be fine in regular PVP but you need to level up your gear before iron banner drops or you wont last a second.

[Lawboy2]

That gun is op but wow those other players clearly are a bunch of ransoms and not playing together

[Nitrowolf2]

it's free for all...

[Lawboy2]

I thought he said they were playing clash...I may have been mistaken

[Shadonic]

yea i was like, why is this dudes friend calling it clash ? Still they were practically running into him blindly like bafoons, considering how strong the radar is to not have some sort of idea of where your enemy is generally located is crazy. also it took them like 20 deaths to try and actually fire back instead of rushing him like some old 90s action movie. Noobs man but still gun needs a nerf

[Gr1mmyshadows]

Damn, thats a weapon to look forward to. and i hope bungie doesnt nerf this. I mean when they give you a fusion rifle that can be used as a primary and shoots a round with each trigger pull then you're gonna be the baddest mofo around

[daBUSHwhaka]

Another reason why this game fucking sucks so much.The PvP is just so unbalanced it's ridiculous.Bungie really have shown cracks in there development.What a pile of steaming shite.Trade this piece of nonsense in for something worthy of draining life out of my Xbox.

[darren_poolies]

The PVP is absolutely fine, the only thing that's wrong with it is that the shotguns are overpowered but apart from that, I think you just suck.

[SmielmaN]

Shotguns do seem overpowered. They have been my only annoyance with crucible

[daBUSHwhaka]

I'm actually not to bad at PvP.Some games I'm coming out with 25+ kills,sum games i just get ripped to pieces.But that doesn't excuse the fact that the PvP it so unbalanced.Maybe you suck.Who knows sucka.

[Dmagic]

the range on the shotguns and assault rifles need a big nerf as of right now the pulse and scout rifles are virtualy useless when a assault rifle can kill from the same distance and faster also they need to balance the ammo given for power weapons i swear a whole team getting 12+ rockets at once is just dumb i would not mind weapon pick ups this game is so good at its core but the rules are broken it just messes everything up.

[WombBat]

@darren

ill beat you and yes this game is clearly unbalanced

[Gr1mmyshadows]

How is pvp unblanced??? crucible is meant to have everyone on equal terms. Now if you were talking about iron banner then thats a different story but everybody know iron banner is meant to take your gear and lvl into effect. Stop crying about the PvP and stop trolling the awesomeness that is Destiny

[isa_scout]

You do realize that you just contradicted yourself right? I love Destiny and the Crucible, but the fact that everyone is supposed to be on equal terms yet this weapon is allowed shows that everyone is in fact not on equal terms. A pro gamer who is a level 10 would have no chance against this gun. If he were playing Iron Banner against a bunch of sub level 10s there wouldn't be a problem, but this just shows why exotic weapons shouldn't be allowed in the Crucible with level advantage disabled.
I'm a level 28(almost 29) and I wreck people online with my exotic weapons. When they finally kill me and tea bag me I don't even blame them. I'd be pissed off to if I was the one on the other side of the barrel.

[daBUSHwhaka]

"the awesomeness that is destiny"....You on crack.Your obviously easily satisfied if you think it awesome.Or is it smack ure on.Either way enjoy your very sub par shooter.Awesomeness...fucking heard it all man.

[Shadonic]

@ isa_scout it will be nerfed and the game will go on. I'm also placing some fault on those players, they practically ran into the dudes sights and tried to focus on getting him with the shotguns, the warlock just kept floating around. best coarse of action would be to try and bait him or avoid him or use other players as a distraction to take him down and from afar. I don't usually snipe but after seeing him sort of hold down the area by point C I would of switched to one of my sniper or at least done something besides rushing him. Its not like they couldn't tell where he was on their radar like he did.

[OUROSMAG]

LMFAO PVP is bolstered, unless it's Iron banner, I think maybe you just need more practice.

[BlackPhillip666]

doesn't need a nerf its the player tbh, Give this gun to someone crap and they will still be crap.

[Gardenia]

That's BS

[PFFT]

The Suros is amazing! And with Focused Fire on its even better. Yeah it has a lower fire rate BUT at mid-range you can pump every clip into the opponents melon.

[LAWSON72]

The perk that slows fire and ups the damage is awesome and makes auto rifles amazing. I get headshots every time I shoot someone, with a random blue I got it on. I got the suros yesterday but had no time to unlock any perks for it, but odds are it is kickass as well.

[isa_scout]

I beat Vault of Glass last night on normal and only got 3 ascendant shards and a shader... Hell Queens Wrath rewards were better than the raid until they patched Queens Missions. But after seeing that gun I think it's time for me and my buddies to bump up the difficulty and do this thing on hard. Easily the most powerful weapon I've ever seen in Destiny.

[teo72]

All Exotic weapons seem OP once leveled up. That's the point, it is an EXOTIC weapon. It is supposed to be OP. Want to keep up? Get better guns, and level them up. My point is this: These Exotics only seem OP when used by very skilled players. My suros Regime does the same critical damage (read headshot) when aimed through sights... just saying. Same firingrate too IMHO.

[Shadonic]

No weapons are meant to be balanced in pvp which they are to an extent, not as heavily and strictly balanced as the older Halos but Balanced. The problem is tat the exotics usually have crazy things and features that need more looking at than the already basic balancing of making everyone's health and armor equal and base damage as well.

my friend has an exotic sniper rifle that recharges ammo, I have an exotic scout rifle ( it sucks as i dont use them ) and this guy has a very unique one as its a primary fusion rifle, a weapon usually constrained as a secondary that has to be charged and shot in small burst but deal major damage. A quick patch can fix this easily but people are acting nuts over it and using as some point to start the Destiny Hate brigade again.

[WombBat]

the original halos are way more balanced just from the fact that you start on even playing fields and you dont have supers, and power weapon spawns.

that shit is ridiculous tbh

[lonelyplayer]

Lots of destiny news every day.... Wasn't the game bad???

[GuruStarr78]

I'm jealous, but really happy for this dude that he got it.. vault of glass is no joke and you really deserve something good for beating it on hard..

I got Suros Regime yesterday (amazingly was able to get 12 strange coins in about the last 18 hours of its availability to pull it off!!) and I'm hyped that I got it, but it's cool to know that there's a better rifle out there.. something to still try and get :)

See you guys in the iron banner!

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Lack balance in crucible has and will continue to be an issue.

[trywizardo]

reminds me of the Promethean weapons in halo 4 :) , witch is really impressive ^_^

[GearSkiN]

Got no problem with this game on pvp, that exotic gun should stay that way, that's why it's a reward for a reason. Shit I wouldn't mind getting owned by that gun it just makes sense.

[Azzanation]

It basically makes the game unfair. I bet most of the players leaving probably though this guy is hacking. Its not a good feeling. The PvP should start you off with standard weapons and Armor or atleast keep the stats of standard weapons but allow for customisations to the appearance.

[SonyMontana]

Broken.

[BX81]

The problem is you can't get paired to do vault. You have to have a team going in. That's lame. Why can't I go in with randoms?

[tekken_god]

cause you'd never actually make it in the vault with randoms

[BX81]

You are not going to convince me that a group of random people some how don't have the capacity to work together. Randoms completed nazi zombies Easter eggs.

[CaptainPunch]

I really don't feel like playing Raid on hard just to get this, playing on normal is difficult enough. But damn that gun is OP, it's really tempting.

[the_mack_attack3]

Given the effort to get it, nerfing it seems kind of stupid!

[Specter229]

Doesnt that kinda prove that there is no balance to the pvp aspect?

[InTheZoneAC]

before anyone worries about balancing guns how about they completely remove any aim assist in every damn shooter. There are only a few solid playstation titles without aim assist, but all these people whining on and on and on how about you look at the bigger picture.

people want to talk about balance and fairness, well it's only fair that a scrub with a controller gets owned by someone who's actually better...

[Kingdomcome247]

This guy was cracking me up talking in the video.