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Is the PS Vita dead ?

Glossy, shiny and capable of so many things to so many people. Where has the PS Vita gone wrong (other than the fact it will pull your pants down to your ankles if you manage to get it into your pocket.....)

It’s been no secret that Sony’s latest handheld, the PS Vita has been struggling to take off since it release a couple of years ago. But does this mean that the Vita is just going to fade away and be forgotten? I do..

rarity3501d ago (Edited 3501d ago )

it's loved here in japan there's also a lot of games(that aren't indies)coming out for it(even though they're not targeted at the western audience) so i wouldn't say it's dead it's just not selling well worlwide. i mean you have freedom wars,senran kagura shinobi versus,soul sacrifice delta gets free dlc constantly,god eater 2 rage burst,chaos rings trilogy+chaos rings 3,bullet girls,criminal girls, p4 dancing all night,hyperdimension neptunia action u,hyperdimension neptunia re'birth 1,2 and 3,SAO 3,digimon cyber sleuth,gravity daze 2(already confirmed to be a vita game by famitsu) and the list goes on like i said here in japan it's wonderful it's the rest of the world that has a problem with it...

thatbasedgamer19903501d ago

Once I finish Uni, im moving to Japan seriously!

rarity3501d ago

ご滞在をお楽しみください :)

XBLSkull3501d ago (Edited 3501d ago )

Lol after beating ninja gaiden my PS vita was dead. NG2 had frame rate problems and wasn't worth playing. I've had the thing for a year and have not touched it in 11 months. Maybe it is getting better but playing remote play on killzone SF was atrocious, that rear touch pad is worthless. Heard Diablo was good though. I regret having ever bought the thing. I'd gladly trade it for a keg of beer.

xHeavYx3501d ago

Oh, look, XBLSkull talking crap about a Sony product again.

I use my VITA every day, especially on those long commutes to work. I've only bought 1 game for it, since PS+ has been very generous with VITA games

NukaCola3501d ago

XBLSkull just go away.

I use my Vita all the time. I love it more than phone or 3DS gaming. I also am a big indi fan so I get spoiled. Can't wait for the 150 games coming from the NEOgaf thread. Plus Oddworld is hitting Vita soon!

zero_gamer3501d ago

Japan has so much going for the Vita. The games I play on mine are imported from Japan. Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1 recently released here, but I have been playing Re;Birth 2 since long ago. I can't wait for the newly announced Re;Birth 3.

Odoylerules0003500d ago

Ever been there? Its a great time, I highly recommend it. In other news... it turns out XBLSkull saw his big bro drinking beer and wanted to sound grown up so... he talks about a keg of beer in his comment! Tweens try so hard.

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joeorc3501d ago

That's very good to hear, that is exactly why playstation TV is being made to make the Vita platform more viable in the west. It may work out or it may not, at least Sony is trying.

Death3501d ago

How is PlaystationTV going to help Vita? If anything it will kill sales since you will be able to remote play and access PSNow from any other tv with PlaystationTV. The upscaler was removed from Vita when Sony decided to go with PlaystationTV which supports 1080i output.

Sony isn't trying to help Vita with PlaystationTV, they are making it less relevant.

Anon19743501d ago

It's really not that complicated. PSTV is based on the Vita hardware. The more Vita based harware there is out in the wild, the larger the install base of the system the more developers see it as a viable platform to develop for. If you can't see how that would help the Vita, I don't know what to tell you.

The Vita and PSTV are also not in direct competition with each other as one is a dedicated home console, the other a mobile gaming device. I really don't see how anyone could believe that one is going to hurt sales of the other. Makes about as much sense as saying the 3DS is hurting Wii-U sales.

Concertoine3501d ago

Its like the Saturn.

Can hold its own in Japan, outside of Japan its basically a niche product with a cult fanbase begging for localizations.

Concertoine3501d ago

Not sure why people disagree. Im not jeering, like the saturn the vita has some good games (actually more than the saturn id say). Im just saying the sales split between the two consoles are similar, in that the vita is simply not getting the sales it deserves in part due to a lack of localization for all the software in japan.

3-4-53501d ago (Edited 3501d ago )

Only Vita game I see myself buying is Tales of Hearts.

The rest of these games just don't really appeal to me.

* I've tried like 15 Vita games and I've only found like 3-4 I actually truly like.

I've never had that problem on any other handheld or console.

* I just want some more traditional RPG games like Legend of Heroes or SOMETHING like that.

Almost everything is TOO Niche.

* Love the Atelier series Art style, but I personally have no interest playing as a girl in a skirt for 3 games.

So there goes those....

I don't like 1st person dungeon crawling RPG's either... so there goes like 4-5 games I won't be playing.

* Wipeout looks fun, the PsP one is, but the rest of the driving games look iffy at best.

* I have MLB the Show 13, which is a really solid game, and I had MvC:3 but returned it.

* It's like they made ALL the Vita games for the 10% who REALLY like that style, and kind of screwed over the other 90%.

I KNOW I'll get hate.....because other Vita owners can't seem to understand that NOT Everybody wants to play perv games, or run around as a girl in a short skirt.

Some of us just want to play some NORMAL fun traditional games.

I THOUGHT that is what I was getting with a Vita.

I THOUGHT it would be like my PSP, where there is a GREAT variety, and tons of quality games.

So far I WAS WRONG.....It's on me, but I don't want to give up yet.

I still have some faith we will get some better games, but all the games I thought I was going to like, turned out to be just so-so to me, or just didn't appeal to me.

* I play all genres for the most part, on almost every type of gaming device imagineable since the 1980's.

I'm open minded, and given some of these games a try, and I STILL don't like them....

They are making the wrong types of games for the Vita and it's killing the sales.

* So yea go ahead and "disagree" with me EMO kid, but not everybody wants to perv on animated women.

DualWielding3500d ago

I agree I do like games like Neptunia, but not those that go over the top with fanservice like Monster Monopiece.... the problem of the Vita is that most of its exclusive games are japanese games that feature sexualised depictions of underage girl which puts most westerners off

Odoylerules0003500d ago

"So yea go ahead and "disagree" with me EMO kid, but not everybody wants to perv on animated women."
You're a badass! How's that working out for you.... being all badass?

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WeAreLegion3501d ago

I don't want to say it is because I love the Vita and still play it constantly, but it's definitely in a coma outside of Japan. I don't blame Sony for moving support to PS4, but they never gave Vita the support it needed.

joeorc3501d ago

See above, that's exactly why Sony is putting out the playstation TV for in the west , with the Viacom deal and it being about $100.00 to $70.00 cheaper entry price point, the "Vita" platform may have best been served to have been a micro-game console instead of a mobile device released in the west. And I think that is why Sony is shifting resources of the "vista" to that of playstation TV.

GdaTyler3501d ago

The problem is that it doesn't even have the name Vita. Common customers wouldn't know and probably might ignore it anyways.

Death3501d ago

The problem is PlaystationTV and Vita have some compatability, but not for Vita specific features or functions. Developers are not going to start supporting Vita now that the platform is being split. PlaystationTV is Sony's device that will make PSNow streaming possible for non Sony PSNow enabled HDTV's. Much of the appeal the Vita has for PS4 owners will be moved to PlaystationTV.

PlaystationTV is another nail in the Vita's coffin.

jacksons983501d ago

If you have PS Plus you might as well get a Vita.
I don't game a lot on my portables, but the free games every month make the purchase more than worth it.

avengers19783501d ago

If only I could find one. I'm thinking there's gonna be a re- release. I'm hoping to find one soon. I have plus so free games a plenty

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies19d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken19d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga19d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken19d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6418d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long18d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197218d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic18d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12519d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91319d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer18d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91318d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit18d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher19d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6918d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit18d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher19d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken19d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197218d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic18d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2318d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218318d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder19d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts19d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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Sony May Soon Let You Decide How Much NPCs Talk In Games

Sony has patented to add multiple dialogue modes to let players switch between how many conversations with NPCs they want in the game.

blackblades25d ago

Sony is like the only ones outta the 3 that has atuff like like this pop up changing thing in ways.

just_looken25d ago

Sony in the past has always been first at bat with new ideas/tech but in the end never fully use it or just toss it away.

blackblades24d ago

I think they did use some but yeah most usually never happened but at least they thought about it. Sony seeks things like this and other, Nintendo seek different ways of playing going by there different controler designs and console designs.

just_looken24d ago (Edited 24d ago )

some of the other stuff sony want's/owns never used
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://gamerant.com/sony-p...
https://www.eurogamer.net/s...
https://metro.co.uk/2023/03...
https://decrypt.co/114754/s...

monitor/adjust game difficultly as you play
https://www.techradar.com/g...

Sony nfts
https://www.theblock.co/pos...

Pay ai to play the game for you
https://thebusinessofesport...

Oh all the above last 12 months

I just imagine a evil scientist with test subjects when it comes down to sony recent patent reports.

Kaii24d ago

Will we get dialogue options that won't spoil puzzles in a matter of seconds? :p

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Judge rules in PlayStation's favour in $500m patent infringement lawsuit

Genuine Enabling Technology was seeking damages, claiming the tech allowing PlayStation consoles and controllers to communicate infringes its rights.

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S2Killinit26d ago

Big victory for Sony. And a long time coming.

DarXyde26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Crazy to think the savings from this lawsuit allows them to develop one AAA game.

Make it Bloodborne 2, please and thank you.

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Profchaos26d ago

Sounds like patent trolling they tried the same thing against Nintendo with the same pattern.

Motion and control input traversing over higher and lower frequencies seperate from each other allowing the controller to do both

Pyrofire9526d ago

Patents suck. Most of them are complete garbage.

Knightofelemia26d ago

So to recoup the money Genuine is going to take on Nintendo or Microsoft next. I hate patent lawyers they are some of the worst bottom feeders out there.

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