PS4 vs Xbox One vs Wii U Lifetime Sales – August 2014 Update

"Looking at the total sales of the PlayStation 4, Xbox One and Wii U shows how quickly the PS4 has taken the lead. The PS4 has always been ahead of the Xbox One and it surpassed the Wii U in February of this year. The PS4 passed the 10 million mark this month, the Wii U the 7 million mark and the Xbox One the 5 million mark. The PS4 has sold 10.19 million units lifetime, the Xbox One 5.13 million units, and the Wii U 7.13 million units.

PlayStation 4 Total Sales: 10,191,770

Xbox One Total Sales: 5,131,517

Wii U Total Sales: 7,130,356"

[Geobros]

Wii U > xbox? That is really impressive!!

[trunkswd]

The Wii U has a 12 month head start. The gap will more than likely shrink a bit in September due to Destiny and releasing in a bunch of more countries.

[randomass171]

Destiny's staying power belongs to PS4. Plus there is Smash Bros. to consider.

[trunkswd]

Yes Destiny will help the PS4 the most, however it will help boost Xbox One sales as well. Also Smash Bros. doesn't come out for the Wii U for a couple more months.

[mandf]

trunkswd

Ps fans said that all last gen but it was an invalid excuse to some.

[ABizzel1]

The Wii U had a 4 million lead against the XBO, which has now dropped down to 2 million.

At best Nintendo holds on to second place by the end of 2015, but eventually the XBO will surpass them. Nintendo can hold them off longer if they have win the price battle (meaning $250 Wii U by March, before XBO can drop to $329 - $349), and keep pumping out exclusives, but the final outcome is almost inevitable unless Amiibo kicks things off massively for that market.

[Paprika]

Wii u has far more reasons to continue to sell. Xbox is at a cross roads IMO, a great console tarnished by quite a few things. It might change, its got some great games ahead for it. But Nintendo can shift over 1million copies of smash bros on 3ds, soon on the Wii u. Then you have Mario, metroid, Zelda, xenogears and much more. Might not be your preference in games, but if these are multiple million selling titles, Wii u is safe. I haven't doubted Nintendo once tbh, infact disregard sales, they are the strongest console this gen due to reasons to own a console.

[MSBAUSTX]

Hyrule warriors, smash brothers, bayonetta 1/2, plus MK8 Bundle still selling and amiibo coming out all in time for the holidays. XB1 has Destiny with almost 75 percent of players playing it on PS4, and Master Chief Collection.

Maybe Sunset Overdrive will move units but it is releasing against Those listed Nintendo games. Wii U has increased sales over the last year and has more games coming to boost it where the XB1 has been declining since its post release peak. The Wii U will still be cheaper and offer more games and more new games durring the Holiday sales as well.

Needless to say, it will be another 1.5 to two years before XB1 catches up to Wii U sales and that doesnt include how much the new Star Fox, Legend Of Zelda, and possible Metroid will propell sales even further.

[S2Killinit]

True. But last gen people would sort of forget about that. Even though the gap in sales was much smaller the 1 year head start was sort of kept on a down low

[Muerte2494]

Xbox One is tracking below the Wii U worldwide. Sorry but close the if you're still being outsold by the competition. I understand the whole "12 year head start" argument, but you assume it would have outsold the Wii U by now.

[jebabcock]

So.... has no one noted that the xb1 released in more markets it's first year than the 360 did... The 360 sold 7 million in its first year did it not?

Isn't it a little behind last gen pace? Not sure it will move 2 million unit's in less than 2 months.

[trywizardo]

agree 100% . @randomass i think every gamer know that destiny is also for X1 so its not like an exclusive to push the sales for one console , beside the reviews will make its sales slower .
it was a huge disappointment just like WD was ...
edit : wait are people started trusting VGchartz again ???

[morganfell]

It is vgchartz and that is the very pedigree of incorrectness and lies. The PS4 passed 10 million well over a month ago. Sales in the US alone in that time since have been over 200k. Now add in the rest of the world and as usual that kid in his basement that runs vgfud is under tracking the PS4... again.

vgfud also ignores the fact that MS numbers are shipped versus Sony's which are sold through.

There is a reason n4g allows this trash to be published when it has been banned by every common sense (and not) website on earth.

[BG11579]

This is like comparing the 360 numbers with the PS3 numbers.
The 360 also had 8 month or so of head start. Yet for some persons, it was irrelevant when comparing global sale numbers between the two.

[bouzebbal]

it's about the long run. Gap may shrink in september but will widen like crazy when Smash Bros and Bayonetta 2 hit the shelves.
I am glad i own both PS4 and Wii U. They are very complementary! Of course PS3 is still running full speed at home!

[TheAmazing_OMEGA]

yeah but remember all the titles The Big N has coming out this fall, especially smash bros.

[Gazondaily]

Wow have I entered the twilight zone where vgchartz is being taken seriously here? :O

Either way, good to see the Wii U doing well. It'll only get better from now on.

I suspect that the X1 will overtake it soonish though; maybe tail end of 2016? Not sure to be honest. We'll see.

[XB1_PS4]

VGchartz is there source. Notoriously inaccurate information.

[SilentNegotiator]

What's impressive about a system selling a mere 2 million more with an additional TWELVE months under its belt?

I'm pretty sure even VITA can manage selling 2 million in a year.

[deafdani]

The majority of the Xbox One sales came at launch. Something to consider.

[EliteGameKnight]

I seem to notice this is the ongoing trend, Wii U does well, people acknowledge it. So what's the best course of action: point out it's a year older.

I won't deny that it had a slow year, a lot of consoles have, but it isn't really necessary to point that out every time somebody starts to feel good about their purchase. It just seems foolish to me.

[Concertoine]

@Elite

While I agree that its current position is all that's important from a consumer perspective, in a strict sales comparison it's unfair to not bring up the head start it had, regardless of whether or not Nintendo made use of that year.

[GenericNameHere]

The Vita's at 10M+, and had an 11 months headstart (Vita release in Japan in December 2011, Wii U in NA in Nov 2012). The Vita has sold more than 2M units/year! :D Vita means life, of course

@deafdani
And? Didn't the Wii U sell 3M+ in it's first few months? 3M in 4 months, yet has only sold 7M in 21 months. Doesn't that mean the Wii U also sold majority of its sales at launch?

@EliteGameKnight
Feel good about their purchase because it's selling decently? They should fell good about their purchase because they like it, not because it's selling. It's not the consumers' fault if a console/game doesn't sell, it's the console maker's/publisher's fault.

Also, it's a good argument. Shouldn't it sell more because it was sold a year earlier?

[Antifan]

Majority of Xbox sales came from launch. That's because only the Xbox fanboys bought the xbox1.
Causal gamers, fanboys, and game lovers bought the PS4.

[LCEvans]

@Antifan "gamelovers boughts PS4" are you really that childish, grow up!

[SilentNegotiator]

"Majority of Xbox sales came from launch"

Xbone had a better launch (first 2 months) than Wii U (~3m to ~2.3m) and was only outsold by Wii U in the months of May, June, and July (and July was neck and neck). Xbone is selling at a MUCH better pace than Wii U.

*based on VGChartz, but they steal official/better numbers in the long run anyway.

[Movieworld]

Wii U is outselling Xbox end of chat

[GenericNameHere]

The Wii U selling is GREAT! But to say the Wii U beating the Xbox One, despite having a 12 months head start, is "impressive!!"? Well, I only have one response for this.

Vita > Wii U? That is really impressive!!

I'm not trying to downplay the "success" of the Wii U. I'm just trying to say that this isn't anything really impressive. In fact, it should spell negligence, as Nintendo did nothing to make sure those 12 months meant something.

[Tedakin]

Yeah impressive with a one year lead. If they came out the same time Xbox would be crushing it.

[SpinalRemains138]

WiiU is doing the crushing, and if Woody had gone to police.........

If If If If

[madjedi]

Really a 2 million lead is crushing, so that means the wiiu is getting crushed by the ps4 at 3 million+.

It's amazing how many people conveniently ignore how fast ms and sony have built up an install base in under a year, vs nintendo almost 2 years.

A year head start mattered last gen, whenever ps3 and 360 fans argued sales, exactly how does that not apply to the wii u.

I really think people are overestimating nintendo's brand appeal and underestimating ms's brand to the masses.

I can't see any rational reason that ms will stay in 3rd and nintendo 2nd in sales, the people touting wii u's superior sales in the us.

Clearly are not reading npd threads on neogaf, because the xb1 typically does 1.5-2x the sales of the wii u in na. Minus the kinectless sku announcement then sales cratered that month.

Wii u did 60k in na last month despite mario kart being released, and yet people still believe the wii u will retain it's 2nd place position throughout most of the gen.

Some of you people are delusional.

[wonderfulmonkeyman]

No it wouldn't.
If they had come out at the same time, the wii u's launch lineup would have been massive in comparison to the xbone, which would have only widened the gap.
Taking into account how quickly wii u's sales dropped off a cliff and stayed low after that initial early adopter boost, it's pretty easy to see that that year head start is not the reason why the wii u currently has more units sold world wide.

[Gamer1982]

Erm whats wrong with these charts is Xbox had at last announcement not sold through 5 million (meaning only sold 5 million to stores) and Sony had sold through 10 million. Even if we pretend Xbox sold 5 million at the point Sony hit 10 million. Sony has been outselling the Xbox one 4-1 worldwide since it hit 10 million so how is xbox one only 60k behind (knocking off the 10 and 5 million). VGcharts the king of fabrication and this just proves it for all those none believers. This isn't a shot at MS who right now is actually selling the xbox one faster to date than it sold the 360. MS is no doubt happy with sales.

[3-4-5]

FACT: They are ALL on healthy INCLINES.

[avengers1978]

Too bad this is from VGCharts. Everyone knows they don't have the right numbers.

[ftwrthtx]

After seeing the empty lines when the Xbox One went on sale in Japan, one has to wonder if they'll ever catch the WiiU.

[LOL_WUT]

I have no doubt that the X1 will close the gap and take second spot regardless of how that happens they'll get there eventually ;)

[MysticStrummer]

It will need to outsell WiiU consistently for that to happen, not just when a big game like Halo releases.

[ABizzel1]

There's no question about it really, it's just when. They've slowly been chipping away at Nintendo's lead down to 2m from 4m. Nintendo has a good line-up heading into 2015 and with a price drop to $250 they can keep their lead through 2015, but eventually MS is going to catch them with the Halo 5 + COD November their 360 fans have been waiting on (a good portion of which is going to join this November, but Smash should help combat it).

[Concertoine]

Its hard for me to say which one will come second. The Xbox One has a lot less selling potential as a secondary console than the Wii U, but also less potential as a primary console than the PS4. If MS or Nintendo could stumble upon the next big game (Goldeneye, Halo) that would guarantee their position at second.

Also depends on how long they choose to support their consoles.

[Ju]

The "chipping away" pretty much came to a halt. Now both sell neck on neck.

[ABizzel1]

@Concertoine

One of the few Nintendo fans I like on here.

I say this because of several reasons. On a weekly basis, the Wii U is barely outselling the XBO in WW sales, and this is probably the only situation where the XBO being in less countries can truly effect it winning or losing in sales. The XBO has a 1.5x - 2x sales ration over the Wii U on average in the US, and both the PS4 and XBO has already passed the Wii U's lifetime sales in the US.

THe Wii U manages to edge out the XBO in EU weekly, and total sales are 1.69m vs 1.24m, and ironically their weekly sales are about 1/100 of their total sales each week. However, this is one of the few cases where being in more countries will help the XBO.

Japan....no point in even going there Wii U has it.

But looking at the total sales for 2014 this year the XBO is currently in 3rd place (as far as home consoles go), and the order is actually quite SHOCKING.

Home Console

1. PS4
2. PS3 (completely surprised by this, but go PS3)
3. XBO
4. Wii U
5. 360
6. Wii

Much of the negative stigma regarding the XBO is starting to fade amongst gamers (I myself have forgiven much of it, because I think they've learned their lesson, but I won't forget it), and people are giving it a second chance (mainly because MS is offering all these great promotions, which is how I got mine).

Nintendo has Hyrule Warriors which should be big in Japan and should do just okay in NA / EU, Bayonetta I think is going to only do a few hundred thousand buy I'll be one of them regardless, and Smash which will be huge for them.

But at the same tim MS has Forza Horizon which should see similar success as Hyrule Warriors, Sunset Overdrive which should do better than Bayonetta since it's bundled, and Halo + COD which is every bit as big as Smash for the XBO fanbase. Then they have their final killer multiplats.

The first half of 2015 Nintendo has the exclusive battle hands down, but MS is going to be carried by huge multiplats and their exclusives throughout the year with games likes Batman Arkham Knight, Dying Light, Rainbow Six Siege, The Witcher 3, Resident Evil, The Division, Resident Evil Revelations 2, Quantum Break, Tomb Raider, Halo 5, and more.

It may not be the PS4 level of primary console, but the XBO is more than capable of being a primary console.

[Concertoine]

Like i said, i wouldn't put money on either this early in the game, but you bring up some solid points. Another huge thing MS has over Nintendo is their marketing. Im surprised by that PS3 tidbit as well.

And actually Hyrule Warriors did come out and did much worse than anyone expected. In Japan at least. I think 70k first week with hardware boost to 19k. While the Wii U is the most dedicated to Japanese software, it seems that market's potential is already near maximized.

Im not knocking the Xbone, i will probably get one by the end of this gen, but i have to wonder how many people will actually choose it over the PS4 as primary console, and later on how many will choose it over the Wii U as secondary.

[ABizzel1]

I think the secondary console is really where things will be decided.

Going into this generation before hearing anything about the consoles, based off my experience last gen, I thought it would be PS4, XBO, and Wii U.

After the reveals of the consoles it was PS4 and upgrade my PC, and not worry about the others until they dropped down to $200.

I think that was the thought process for a lot of people.

Second place goes to the console that shows the best games, the best value, and the most reasonable price. Nintendo should be that choice if it came down to games, because the XBO and PS4 will have the 90% of the same library, but people don't think about it like that, and when it comes to value you get more with an XBO, with G4G, a strong online network, and great 3rd party support on top of exclusives. That leaves price to final factor, which is also influenced by value so while a $300 Wii U is cheaper, a $400 XBO is more powerful, will have the more well rounded game support, Blu Ray, strong app support, etc...

I think the majority will go with XBO, but I don't think it's going to be hugely in their favor. Maybe 70% to 30% in favor of the XBO tops.

[AWBrawler]

Splatoon might be that next big game.

[Movieworld]

the Wii U is beating the XBox 1 FACT! End of chat

[SilentNegotiator]

Wii U has its two BIGGEST console sellers releasing/released this year, SSB and MK8 and has only sold a couple more thousand every week. At least give Xbone a chance to release a Halo or a GeOW or something before making that leap.

[GenericNameHere]

•Xbone sells way more in the US than Wii U does
•Xbone sells way more in Europe than Wii U does
•Wii U sells way more in Japan than Xbone and PS4 does

Pretty sure Xbone will catch up to the Wii U. Japanese console sales don't mean much anymore, not when they are doing so horrible.

[madjedi]

That is so precious you think the japanese console market is still relevant to either sony or ms, if under 10k a week is a victory to you by all means continue.

Other developing markets or lower disposable income markets are likely more profitable than the dying japanese home console market.

[ShadowWolf712]

"That is so precious you think the japanese console market is still relevant to either sony or ms"

Based on the big guns Sony's been pulling out at TGS, I'd say so. Unless you think those JRPGs were all for our benefit over here, of course...

[ShadowWolf712]

The fact that you felt the need to PM at me is telling.

Japan, whether you want to believe it or not, is still relevant. MS had HUGE hopes for the launch there. Sony kicked up the competitive drive. Why would you attempt to deflect to "Software"? What exactly do you think this software is being made to be used on?

Both companies want to move consoles. Both companies are attempting to do so. I'd say that means they consider it relevant.

[madjedi]

I pmed you because likely it wouldn't flag as a new reply to you nothing more. Again implying things that aren't there.

Yes truly telling, i don't believe japan is as import as a market as the rest of the global console market because of it's declining hardware sales.

No what would have been telling is if i had not bothered responding to you at all. So what false implication or intent are you going accuse me of this time.

Many people that enjoy japanese games are wanting a return to the ps2 era when japanese games flourished, they are hoping the ps4 can do that. It would be great, but i don't think it will happen.

You really like to make generalizations and assumptions about people you know essentially nothing about.

[gedden7]

I hate to say this but, Xbone won't catch Wii U until 2016 or later... What big game is coming out for Xbone? Destiny great, but lets see those sales come november.

Nintendo always kills it during the holiday in terms of sales... Probably Nintendo's BIGGEST game coming out in the form of smash bros.. Dont forget Hyrule Warriors and other Nintendo only games. There's some light though, Sunset Overdrives and Halo games like that might help but I don't know how much... If the Xbone wasn't so much like the PS4 and didn't dig their own hole, they would have been fine. But stupid mistakes and arrogance will end you or make things really hard to sell a $400 piece of equipment

[badz149]

"Nintendo always kills it during the holiday in terms of sales..."

not last year!

@below

seriously? last holiday was all about the PS4 and Xbone.

[gedden7]

How didn't they? I thought all consoles did well...

[jholden3249]

Wii U sold 2 million over the holiday season last year. I'd say that's pretty respectable considering where they were at earlier in the year.

[jrshankill]

"What big game is coming out for Xbone?"

Halo 5 and Master Chief Collection. These games will shift consoles.

Also I fully expect a new Minecraft exclusive for Xbox One in 2015. They didn't buy Mojang for nothing.

[DanteVFenris666]

Yea there going to at least need to buy out another timed game so it looks like they can even compete with all of sonys games.

And minecraft won't be exclusive even if it is ps4 users already have the game. There's not much you can add on to the game. Minecraft gets stale really fast.

And I doubt halo will shift consoles. People are looking for new and unique this gen. Everyone's sick of generic fps finally. Which is good news to gamers. Plus all halo fans have probably already bought a xone

[PingasoFromHell]

Very impressive for the Xbox one, I wonder how far behind they are in the united states and the united kingdom, because like the Xbox 360...you win in those two big markets, you sell more software which means you win the war..will see what happens when this holiday season when halo, sunset and forza comes out...

[S2Killinit]

Whats more amazing is your ability to brainwash yourself. What type of soap do you use, you wash so good.
Lol i kid

[Kayant]

"I wonder how far behind they are in the united states and the united kingdom, because like the Xbox 360" -

US - 700K+
UK - 400K+

UK software revenue August 2014

http://i.imgur.com/PeQhyrV....
http://i.imgur.com/p4dbC7h....
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Which means they are losing the war in UK and likely the US also but cannot find Software spilt for US to show that.

And they lost last gen by winning in those two big markets. PS3 launched 1 year after yet has caught up to X360 WW numbers.

[Haru]

Playstation it's really popular in europe I'm european and whenever I go to a game store I can bearley find any xbox games deep in the back but instead you see hungreds of playstation games everywhere xbox is dead in europe it always was just like in asia and now in USA too

[jrshankill]

@Haru

Bulls**t sir. I'm from Europe, there are more Xbox 360 games still on sale than any other platform in our stores.

PS4 and Xbox One have their own corners. Wii U in generally sold along Wii and 3DS games.

But, again, every store layout is different. But the majority in my city have more 360 titles on shelves than anything else.

[Alsybub]

@Haru

I'm not sure I agree with that, certainly not here in the UK. XB1 and PS4 seem to have equal presence when I go into game stores. In fact the retailer 'GAME' gives one side to Xbox and the other to Playstation with Nintendo occupying the racks around the middle. It's generally more about how much a manufacturer pays the retailer for floor space.

I can't speak for the continent but it is generally accepted that PlayStation is more popular.

[Ra3030]

Why do Xbox fanboys continue to bring up Forza as a huge selling game? I don't get it. Forza 5 sold less than 1.5 million copies and many of those were giveaways to sell the X1 console. Now 1.5 is good but it's not worth talking about as far as game sales go. Forza Horizon sold 1.75 million copies and agin good for them but that's not saying much. Forza Horizon 2 won't sell much better than the first. So why do the xbox fanboys bring this up as though those sales numbers are worth talking about........there not! Not all gamers are race game fans unless it's all you have as far as games go on that console and I know the X1 and 360 have more to offer. Forza may be a great game cardboard cut outs and all but it's sells have been lacking on the last 2 releases and FH2 will not improve on that.

[S2Killinit]

The problem xbone has incatching up to WiiU is that people tend to buy PS4 when they are shopping for a core gami g device. And the WiiU is a great second console. At least that how i feel.

[MSBAUSTX]

All three offer quality gaming. PS4 is slightly more powerful resulting the majority of gamers buying it, unless they prefer MS exclusives. But the Wii U doesnt try to compete with either system. It does it own thing and does it beautifully. Because it delivers a different experience and gaming genre than the XB1 and PS4 is why it will keep the No2 spot. It doesnt have to beat two systems. It only has to beat one to stay popular and profitable. The XB1 is the system trying to beat two systems.

Once Bayo 2, Smash U, Devils 3rd, Hyrule Warriors, Yoshis Wooly World, Captain Toad, Kirby, Xeno Chricles X, Splatoon, Star Fox, Legend of Zelda U, a new Metroid, and a New full 3D Mario come out the Wii U will further seperate itself from the XB1 in sales because those are all highly rated and quality exclusive titles.

XB1 will have Halo, Forza, and Sunset Overdrive. I dont know of any other exclusives right at this moment except maybe one or two that I cant remember the name of. Those games are good but have similar games to them coming to PS4. That means it is depending on third party support which it is loosing in comparison to PS4.

There are hardly any games like the Wii U titles I listed coming to any other platform but the Wii U. That equates to always being in the No2 spot. I just dont see any other way that doesnt happen other than Nintendo quitting making games for it.

[Jahbu]

Wait! I thought the WiiU would be dead by now? I'm so glad it's doing well. Never lose faith in the mighty Nintendo. Honestly I love all four major platforms the PS4, Xbox One, Wii U, and PC. Hell I even love the portables 3DS and Vita. I guess I just love gaming in general. So glad I'm not a fanboy...experience EVERYTHING!

[goken]

Well... you can expect at least a 15% boost in x1 sales for September due to the japan launch... which ia better than nothing right?
Also launches in new markets will no doubt bring in significant sales boost. Though might not be enough to help x1 take September and October, i guess we'll see

[badz149]

15% for Japan alone for a month? that's like 750000 console! the are you high? In Japan, the 1st Xbox didn't even reached that number, the 360 took like 2 years to get that number and the Xbone debuted as the worst console launch in Japan's history! nuff said!

[ftwrthtx]

All those empty console queues say otherwise.

[iliimaster]

i play my wii u everyday and love it

[GenericNameHere]

Good for you, and keep enjoying it! There are also PS4 and Xbone players playing their consoles everyday and enjoying it. Don't let sales arguments prevent you from having fun.

[Alsybub]

Exactly. Popularity doesn't = quality. Historically the underdog has the more creative games as well. Quality > quantity any day of the week.

[Illusive_Man]

What particular game is behind all these PS4 sales?

[kneon]

All of them.

"system sellers" aren't what they used to be, they launch and there is a sales spike for a week or two. What sells systems is the total value of the system and games, it's not just a couple hot games that will make the difference.

[G20WLY]

Some systems offer greater choice and variety than others.

This approach can lead to greater sales - it's better than waiting years for the next instalment of a sole 'killer app' IP and most people recognise that.

[MasterCornholio]

Not a particular game just games in general.

Anyone whose a gamer knows that.

:)

[Alsybub]

There is no particular game at the moment. The PS4 is riding the crest of a wave of good marketing and PR.

I own one but I won't deny that it's killer apps are in the future and on a promise.

[WizzroSupreme]

Can't enjoy my consoles unless 3 more million folks are play'in it. *weeps*

[SilentNegotiator]

As if anyone told you that you couldn't.

[Flames76]

This is wrong the X1 is at 5.3 million and in 13 countrys as of august 30.I say it will hit 6 million ending september 30 since its shipping in 28 more countrys this month.i know china pre orders have passed 100,000 already and thats just from a few retailers.These writers really do need to do research before posting stupid articles.Hell the ps4 is at 10.3 and wii u at 7.2 million.Both of those are in over 50 countys.

[larrysdirtydrawss]

that number was shipped not sold through,,and the tier 2 countries totaled about 10% of lifetime sales for the 360, and the xone is even less popular than that,tier 2 might be about 7% of life time sales for the xone,just a drop in the bucket ...whats actual wrong is that the ps4 numbers are a few hundred thousand higher than this,they sold the ps4 short

[hello12]

Just to put an end to the fallacy Sony doesn't ship to 100 countries here it is

http://www.sony.com/SCA/com...

I also apologise for the vgcharts i thought i was looking at September numbers not the end of August. Still x box 1 had a nice boost that month.

And please stop saying 2 tier countries don't matter they do, 30+ per cent of 360 sales were boosted by countries considered second tier.

Nobody sane is saying x box will suddenly overtake Sony if they started selling in more countries, that's untrue, but Microsoft can and will sell more consoles by shipping to other countries.

[Clarence]

NA alone could destroy those countries. M$ flooded the territories they had the most success in last gen with xbones this gen. M$ will most likely end up in 3rd place this gen.

[Losso-Oso]

I'm sorry man, but teh 2nd tier countries did not represent 30% of the 360 lifetime sales. Acoring to VGChartz (I know, VGChartz but lets pretend they are the most accurate for total lifetime), the Xbox 360 has sold 83.13 million units worldwide.

here is the breakdown (Figures are in the millions):

N. America: 47.36
Europe: 25.29
Japan: 1.66

Now here is where your argument falls apart, pay close attention here.

REST OF THE WORLD: 8.82

So, out of a total of 83.13 million units, the 3 biggest markets (and yes that still includes Japan) represented a total of 74.31 million. Basic mathematics tells us that the 3 biggest markets, all three of which the Xbox One has fully released in (sanz Japan, but lets face it, Japan is a futile battle for Microsoft and the only reason they even bother with it is because they don't want to sour their barely there relationship with the handful of Japanese developers and publishers that matter and therefore give Sony an even stronger position) represent 89.39% of the TOTAL, LIFETIME Xbox 360 sales.

That means that the tier 2 countries which you guys claim will help, how much you guys think it will help varies on the day from significantly to substantially, only accounted for 10.1% of the 360's lifetime sales.

And that was with a one year or longer in some cases, headstart in those territories. Sony still took those territories 11.74 million units of the PS3's 83.42 lifetime sales.

Now that it is the more popular brand in those dark corners of the world, Sony Playstation, having the one year headstart, none of the negative press or stigma, more powerful console and in a lot of those places a little cheaper or same price for more powerful hardware, you think that Microsoft will benefit ANY, from the release of their system in those territories?

Think about it man, put the kool-aid down, take the fanboy hat off, and really think about this.

[oxybulle]

+1 bubble for you sir :)

[Kayant]

You don't even need that. But great analysis :).

If MS don't care enough with the recent countries it's launched in so far that should tell people how much it really matters to them. Theses are some of the same countries that were apparently delayed for "localization" - yet launched with no kinect support, local content(apps, etc).

http://neogaf.com/forum/sho...

[sebzhd]

PS4 rules, forever.

[DLConspiracy]

Sales = enjoyment of a console. I think this is what this generation is trying to prove. Not actual gameplay. Just sales.

[GenericNameHere]

And how exactly did you come up with this conclusion? Do you really think sales = enjoyment? Most people don't care about sales. It's only the minority (people in gaming sites) that cares and argues about sales. People still care about gameplay very much. If a game looks great, then they'll buy it. But you also have to push it in marketing.

[DLConspiracy]

I was being sarcastic.

[jholden3249]

Sales tell you how many people are currently enjoying a console. But they don't reflect the number of people that are missing out on enjoyment from not buying one.

Most people never know what they're missing because they never bothered to buy one and find out. And there are many reasons people buy or don't buy consoles. Peer pressure, marketing, social stigma... there are many factors other than the perceived value of the gaming library or perceived potential value of the future gaming library that affect a person's decision on which console to buy.

The only way to TRULY gauge enjoyment of a console, is if every single gamer owned it and played it. Unfortunately, most people pledge allegiance to one brand and never come to realize the enjoyment that they've been missing by not owning another console.

[jrshankill]

Well said sir. Bubbled Up.

The gaming community has become so tied up in their console of choice that they are really missing out on other experiences. I am lucky enough to own all 3 current gen consoles and I am also lucky enough to get to experience what each has to offer.

Think about this, the Dreamcast is easily one of the most fun consoles ever released, and it's sales were abysmal. There was never a point where gamers sworn such allegiance to the PS2 and vowed to never play that evil Sega piece of sh**. To this day I would prefer to play the Dreamcast much more than the PS2, and the Dreamcast was considered a failure.

The point I am trying to make is, gamers are really just depriving themselves of fun experiences because of brand loyalty. Consoles are there to be played; not to bitch, moan and complain about. Enjoy playing the damn games.

[paddy95]

I consider the wii u to be 2 consoles, therefore wii u is in the lead with 14,000,000.

[deafdani]

wat

[madjedi]

Maybe end of life sales prediction?

[CertifiedGamer]

Ha ha PS4 outsold their competition so badly that now the battle is within the competition for second place.

[ShinraE5]

Sony has first place on lock, as the Wii did last gen.

To those who think the X1 has no chance to capture second place..

2014:
Ori & the Blind Forest
Sunset Overdrive
Project Spark
D4
Forza Horizon 2
Halo MC Collection

2015+:
Fable Legends
Quantum Break
Scalebound
Halo 5
Phantom Dust
Crackdown
Gears 4

And that is only what is known to the public as of today.

It has a good chance to catch 2nd, especially as it has 12 months less than the Wii U and is within 2 million. And that is WITHOUT a Halo or Gears release yet
Gears 4

[callahan09]

Yes, but Nintendo has Zelda and Smash Bros, which are as big or bigger than anything included on your list (on a level with Halo in sales). Plus they've got probably an equal number of games that are coming out (Hyrule Warriors, Splatoon, Mario Maker, Captain Toad, Yoshi's Woolly World, Xenoblade, Kirby and the Rainbow Curse, Mario Party, Mario vs Donkey Kong, and some others). So really, the lists are similar enough in size and in terms of popular major system-seller type releases that I don't think you can argue one way or the other which list will lead to the better selling console.

[URtheWalrus]

It's really sad that some people feel the need to bash another console. Xbox 1 and the Wii U are great consoles, just like the PS4. I really don't understand all the hate and negativity. Oh well.

[jholden3249]

Ya, I own all 3 consoles and both handhelds. We don't believe in console racism in my household.

With that said, naturally I gravitate towards some consoles more than others. I don't play Vita much anymore, and I have yet to buy a game for my Xbox One (mainly due to the fact that I buy all my multi plats on PS4, and really don't like online shooters). Wii U, PS4 and 3DS all get a fair amount of play from me though.

But, once Sunset Overdrive hits, it'll be X1's turn. And again when Master Chief drops. And the Vita will get some play with Freedom Wars (unfortunately that might be the last game I play on it for a while, unless they start announcing games for it pretty soon here- there's literally nothing coming for it next year).

Point is, all consoles have value and each one gets its turn when a great game releases. People are so ignorant to write off an entire console just because they don't own it or can't afford to buy another one.

[voodoogts]

It doesn't make sense. How is it that Sony has sold so many consoles than Microsoft yet Microsoft is worth over 320 billion dollars and Sony only 12. Billion dollars?

[CKPan]

YOU SERIOUSLY DON'T KNOW??

[Ch1d0r1]

;-) Maybe Microsoft bought a bunch of PS4s to inflate the numbers.

[aerisbueller]

Not sure. I think I heard once that Microsoft makes some operating system and office software that no one's heard of.

[Ch1d0r1]

Congratulations to Nintendo, they're back in the game!

[Protagonist]

I´m just glad Sony is doing good!

[Hanuman]

And one of those 10191770 PS4's is MINE! Mwha Ha, Mwa Ha, Mwa Ha Ha Ha Ha...

[bazinga_91]

Good job sony. Keep dominating. We gamers are with you.

[DougLord]

Congrats to Playstation, although we are going to have to start calling it the Google, Apple, or Amazon Playstation cause Sony is DEAD after this.
http://www.cnet.com/news/so...

Dividend is cancelled. Another huge loss. It's game over.

[Ryan741]

Its amazing that with over 10 million PS4s sold Sony are about to post ANOTHER multi billion year loss, how long can they keep afloat? The vultures must be circling that company.

[aerisbueller]

"Just wait until Titanfall comes out. Then you'll see the gap start closing."

[Gamerbeyond]

lol vgfailchartz. the ps4 should be at 10.5 million.

ps. after destiny, its probably at 11million.

[Gamerbeyond]

if you want to see the epic fail of vgchartz.

yesterday, xbox1 = 134k sales, ps4 = 124k sales

today, ps4 = 133k, xbox1 = 124k.

haha they even try to purposely throw the xbox1 at the top to trick people.

[SirDjss]

Wii u are doing well. And bayonetta havent been released 2. Good for you Nintendo

[gano]

Hahaha.
Xbone is fuking trash all the way.
That shyt will never be in my house, and of all the people i only know 1
who has it.

Wii u and playstation for life.
Put the boxes in the bin, and beat it.
Lol

[SynestheticRoar]

They named the x-box dreamcast 2 in NYC.

[urwifeminder]

Sony must rolling the cash now and give a nice profit to its investors.

[saimcheeda]

Super performance! Truly a great lead!