Wait, I Have To Play Destiny For 20 Hrs. Before It Gets Good?

Bungie says Destiny becomes a "whole different kind of game" after you put 20 hours into it. Okay, so what's that say about the first 20 hours then?

[lifeisgamesok]

I agree why should this game get a pass and make it harder on game reviewers

A game should be good and fun from the start

Did games like Skyrim take this long to review no and it has way more content

Titanfall may have been short on content but it's very fun to play

[user6540948]

You can play for far longer than that and it will still never get good.

[nX]

He didn't even read the article, it's not talking about reviews at all. Also it's the truth, the real fun starts with the end game, the (terrible) story just exists to get you there. This game has some mechanics that make it addicting as hell.

[ShinMaster]

""I Have To Play Destiny For 20 Hrs. Before It Gets Good?""

Reminds me of the time FF13 came out... only a lot more shady. This game is getting a lot of special treatment compared to other games.
___

@ Bloodborn

Yes, the mechanics, gunplay and graphics are rock solid. There's a lot of money invested in this game, so it's very polished.
However, that doesn't keep it from being soulless. I've played MMOs before, but this pseudo-MMO game has no personality. No memorable characters or story arcs. Its overall design is bland, generic and lacks a decent art direction. It may be pretty but its environments are vastly uninspired, as well as your gear and weapons.

[PeaSFor]

its exactly like unlocking torment difficulty and adventure mode in diablo3, thats just too bad haters and naysayers are too busy bitch and moaning about something they dont like thaan understand the concept.

im having fun with the game, so bite me polajones.

[Panthers]

I have to admit the game has gotten better the more I played. I play SciFi games for their story/universe, and Bungie created one hell of an amazing universe with Halo. I am hoping this games story gets fleshed out better and they put more science into the SciFi because right now I am very annoyed with the way things are explained in this game.

Basically space magic. The Traveller and The Darkness. Really!?!??!

[pedrof93]

MMOs normally only get really addicting on end game.

[XBLSkull]

The vast majority of gamers never even finish the campaigns of games. If your game takes 20 hours to become fun than you have horribly failed. Should have been good right from the get go.

[Prime157]

World of warcraft wasn't fun from about level 20-50 in vanilla...

I expected the same of Destiny. I think it was either poor marketing and pr, or p poor consumerism, or both.

[GameSpawn]

@Bloodborn

"This game has some mechanics that make it addicting as hell."

It's that MMO-crack baby. Too bad the first one wasn't free, unless you count the Alpha and Beta as being the "first one".

I still find it hard calling Destiny a full out MMO though. It's MMO-esk, but there are not massive city arenas with thousands of players. There is not an almost unending stream of quests (unless you consider the "Patrol" missions this). There is not any sort of player crafting and barter system.

Destiny is definitely unique in that it does not fall completely under the definition of an MMO or a FPS. It truly is a weird amalgam of the two.

Short of more expansive quests and missions, I don't think Destiny needs to do more than it has already done. I don't really want a barter/crafting system (more emphasis on barter) because it would undermine the point of "questing" for Legendary and Exotic items, utterly destroy the economy, and lead to people getting overpowered weapons and armor far to early and easily (meaning no true reward for risk and effort).

[Consoldtobots]

for someone who had become REALLY bored with FPS I am enjoying the ever loving hell out of this game. Currently going through my missions using just a hand cannon and haven't had this much fun in quite some time with a shooter. fanboy reviewers can go to hell.

[Enemy]

Skyrim wasn't good to begin with. It was bad from the start.

[xPhearR3dx]

What are you smoking? Skyrim was amazing and one of the best games from last gen.

[monkeyDzoro]

@xPhearR3dx

Skyrim story was bad. Combat was awful. The only thing Skyrim was and is still shining for... GRAPHICS. That's all it has.
Nobody remembers Skyrim for its story. Nobody remembers Skyrim for its combat.
Everybody is just talking about its graphics and mods. That's all.

[Kornholic]

I invested 30 hours into Skyrim. It never got good at any point, and after reaching the 30 hour mark, I just quit.

[dcj0524]

Have I been teoeported to a alternate dimension? Skyrim is a fantastic game.

[nix]

just like GTAIV. that game.. i spent like 30+ hours and i quit.

but how it got 10/10 across the board still amazes me.

[ScottyHoss]

Agreed, skyrim just wasn't very fun to me,but destiny has been truly addicting. Some people may feel that's the opposite and that's alright, gamers should put hours into games they think are fun, and not be criticized for it.

[wsoutlaw87]

Skyrims combat is garbage and npcs are pointless. The only good thing about skyrim was the landscape. The quests and caves were repetitive and the gameplay wasnt good at at. Destiny has a lot of the same issues as skyrim except combat is funner in destiny. Demons/dark souls is 10x better than skyrim and doesnt really have a told story.

[CJDUNCAN]

skyrim wasn't the biggest disappointment in gaming to date for me. After beating the dragon absolutely nothing happens. No rewarding cutscene, nothing. The combat was outdated and clumsy, and the graphics were ok for last gen, but not the best i've seen last gen. That game was just flat out horrible.

[NewMonday]

@all of the above

exactly!

some people love Skyrim some hate it, different games for different people.

Skyrim was a great game to it's audience, but some just don't like that type of game doesn't mean it's bad, but you don't see a group of people try to convince others it's mediocre.

[Kidmyst]

@Nix, I felt the same with GTA4, Now GTA5 was amazing and I loved Skyrim, main story was OK it was the factions and variety of quests that made it enjoyable for many many hours. I like Destiny but it really at times feels the lacking of actual characters, and unlike other games if they kept adding in new characters I think there would be more positive responses to Destiny. It's a good shooter but repetitive quests in the same areas. I'm level 12 and hear after level 20 it gets better so we'll see.

[iSuperSaiyanGod]

You must be on crack ...

[MrCherry]

Skyrim kicka$$ this....game is not half of that!

[NarooN]

Skyrim is yet another over-hyped game. That's all gamers do nowadays it seems, just over-hypes everything and even latches on to games just because everyone else is doing it. It's pathetic and shameful.

[DOMination-]

Off topic but what is with everyone using the word "addicting" ? Is this some new Americanism because the word should be "addictive" and even if "addicting" is a word, its going to be a verb so is being used wrongly above anyway. Not as annoying as "could care less" though which I see almost daily on n4g.

On topic: This reminds me of ff13 as yahtzee said "you can stick your hand on an oven hob for 20 hours and yeah, you might stop feeling pain but you're going to have done some serious damage"

[Ninver]

GT6 was attacked for the same reason if I recall. PD clarified that the game got better (which it did) as you level up and unlock features such as damage etc but reviewers and fans still trashed the game.

Reality is that people want the full experience right from the beginning for the money they spent.

[SolidStoner]

About the "damage".. some cars have better then others, it was "off" at the beginners mode and some more.. then it started to show rally and nascar damage etc.. (but it was really basic and cosmetic).. only after updates we got full support for technical damage.. (only online)... anyway I wish every game developer to look and learn how to support a game from PD! (ok that last thing about Microtransactions is a bad thing, m key!)

[AsheXII]

Destiny got good the second i grabbed my first rifle.

[purp13m0nk3y]

Agreed. It's been fun the whole way through for me. And the more I play the more I enjoy. Only at lv11 so far. But my mates are I are loving the co op.

Why don't people just go play the game and enjoy it for what it is.... A great game. Not perfect, but really quite good.

Don't be haters people. There are millions of gamers world wide that are having a blast with this game. And totally oblivious to the irrational hate this game is generating.

My bro was literally shocked when I explained to him the negative reviews and hate directed towards this game online. For many gamers this game has delivered on Bungie's promise and more!

[joab777]

Really? This is why Bungie only mistake was not telling ppl that it is a bona fide mmo.

Yes, u play for 20 hrs before u level cap. But, as ppl log 100 's and 100 's of hrs level capping multiple characters and classes, a few days isn't that much.

I know I'm not alone in saying this is the first game in awhile that has me wanting to play it so bad that I think about getting home all day. It's highly addictive and a ton of fun.

Yes, like all mmo's, it's hard to keep enough content for hard core players but not too much for casual. Usually endgame makes or breaks an mmo in the 6 months post launch. But Destiny already has events, a raid coming and I am not a big PvP fan, but I love the PvP in this game.

When compared to a game like WOW etc., it may seem to b a little shallow but w/ heroic modes on every mission, daily, weekly, strikes, the raid, and a legit mmo PvP, there is quite a bit for launch.

My only concern is how fully Bungie is planning to go w mmo staples like extensive customization, and social tools.

Other than that, I REALLY hope ppl keep playing and don't judge it based on reviewers need to review it as a sp game like Halo. It isnt. I for one am ecstatic that they stepped out and made this game.

[OrangePowerz]

Could be worse. WoW is fun until level 10 and after that it was a grind till level 50 and got fun again from there and it takes a lot more time from level 10 to 50 in WoW.

[superdong]

Leveling in Wow has a lot to do with who you are playing with. If you go it alone... it was quite the grind yes... but i personally had some amazing times when i leveled my first toon. World PVP was just the best, running around Stranglethorne having these amazing battles against the Alliance.... That moment of terror when you seen a high level player riding about on his mount as you flee for cover hoping he didn't spot you. The barrens all chat...

First time leveling in WoW for me was some of the best moments i've enjoyed in gaming and it only got better at level 60.. almost 10 years ago now ! Crazy.

[MarkusMcNugen]

I loved WoW in the beginning. But after all the expansions, starting new characters became bland and boring as hell. Barely anyone would be in starting areas, you almost had to go it alone the last few years. I believe thats why they introduced the refer a friend double XP. If you werent playing with a friend it was really really boring.

[OrangePowerz]

@superdong

I hated Stranglethorn and the open world PvP since on my server it was always full of gankers.

From level 50 it was fun since the good dungeons kicked in at that time and with 60 the raids.

[moegooner88]

Bungie becoming a multiplatform developer is still making you salty I see.

[nX]

I think it's a pattern, I noticed more Xbox owners criticizing it.

[ALLWRONG]

And a bunch of PS fans defending a mediocre game to the death.

[moegooner88]

@Allwrong, awww you mad too.

[Rickgrimes95]

You had me until u said titanfall

[Perjoss]

I started having fun as soon as that first cinematic finished and they let me start shooting at stuff.

[porkChop]

"make it harder on game reviewers"

Last time I checked, this is their job. They get paid to do it, so why the hell would I care if something is easy or not for them? Any MMO really starts once you get to max level, and Destiny while not an MMO is still very similar in a lot of ways.

And last time I checked, very few games are actually good and fun from the start. Most games start off slow, especially the games with more longevity.

[Sevir]

Exactly!!! And what's been great is that I've been addicted to this from the get go. :)

[beerzombie]

I think the real problem is this might be the first mmo on consoles for this new generation. I know there have been others but this is a massively marketed game that is being played by people who have never played or even thought about a mmo before.

[Irishguy95]

Yeah but Skyrim is terrible. Time doesn't matter in it because of level scaling. Not that i'm defending Destiny, just that Skyrim sucks.

Like...everything is Skyrim, literally everything besides the landscape was bad. The story(ies) where bad, the quests were bad, the combat was extremely bad. Even 'looting' and leveling where bad all due to the scaling systems bethesda likes to use. Over the result is 'Skyrim sucks'

[HanzoHattori]

Yeah. I agree. The only redeeming quality Skyrim had was free roam/open world style of gameplay. Other than that, it was below average in my opinion.

[beerzombie]

Skyrim the problem with this game was it was to easy to dragons and there were to many. Most fantasy worlds dragons are an end boss and also almost impossible to kill. To just go around killing dragons felt off.

[3-4-5]

The Destiny Hate now, is like Corporate America - just getting in on the joke - and then spreading that as if it's brand new....like it's still "cool".

* It's the joke that was Hilarious 5 days ago....there are still those people going around acting like they are still hearing it for the first time.

By continuing to talk about the "cool" thing, you've made it "un-cool".

* Remember when Facebook was pretty decent, and then all the Moms found out about it....

That is what this Destiny bashing is like now.

All the Witty people got their comments out of the way.

No all the non-creative people are just re-hashing the hate.

[HanzoHattori]

Many players expected to see a futuristic COD/Halo/BF4 and when they didn't get it (Immediate player matches and multiplayer modes) the complaints and whining began. In this game you have to earn your rewards. There are no annoying campers and players running around with sniper rifles defeating someone with an assault rifle,<(UNREALISTIC) the shooting mechanics in this game are well balanced and anyone can kill any player at any time. The only thing that separates players is gear, gear acquired through hard work. The game is rewarding, but it does need more content for what it is. Destiny does succeed at providing a sense of desolation caused by an alien invasion. It's the rewards and that feeling that you are part of a small group of warriors trying push back a seemingly endless hoard of invaders that keeps me coming back to play again and again.

[Mac420]

An that's your opinion... Some people love Titanfall an Watchdogs others don't. I didn't like either an find Destiny lived up to MY OWN PERSONAL HYPE.

I haven't really slept, mainly due to this game. Love every minute of it an can't wait for what's to come. This is like GTA Online these are just the building blocks. Think of Destiny as a skyscraper, only thing they have right now is the foundation an the steel framing.

If you don't like it that's fine, don't play it. Don't get this mentality gamers have lately, that there will be this game that every gamer will just love an nobody will have a dislike for. Millions of people pass on different titles every year because they have they're own opinion. Didn't realize till this game came out how many people need others opinions to make a choice in a game purchase.

Now I know why society is degrading... People need others just to make there mind up on a simple game purchase.

[ScaryMonkey]

Once again, fun is not quantifiable its subjective, whats not fun for you is in fact fun for a lot of other people.

[SonyMontana]

I've been having fun since I picked up the controller. Gamers are such crybabys these days. SMH Bungie made a great, fun FPS and all people do is dump all over it. This industry...

[spicelicka]

Unless you have the sense to not give a f***. I've only Put like 5 hours in and i'm loving the hell out of it so much. I almost can't believe that the people hating this game are playing the same game as me. Like seriously, yea there are things to improve and change but the game is so damn awesome how can you not enjoy it?

Anyone that thinks 6/10 or 7/10 is an appropriate rating for this game should really look at other games that have those ratings on average. Destiny has a 74 and Wolfenstein has a 79, you're telling me that game actually comes near Destiny in quality and quantity? It is a great game not gonna lie, and it deserves a 79 which is a great rating, but damn if people are rating destiny lower than Wolfenstein then wtf does that say about the rating system?

[SonyMontana]

Wholeheartedly agree.

[Tedakin]

Agreed. Titanfall was fun the second you started the Tutorial. It perfected FUN. Destiny is anti-fun.

[FsterThnFTL]

Nope.

[conjurdevil]

Well a LOT of content opens up near level 16-20.

[ZAF]

it's an mmo, mmos only get better in the endgame.

[Snookies12]

Well, it's not really an MMO. It simply borrows its style from the MMO genre.

[Kingthrash360]

Well...that makes it a mmo.
I mean what is it thats not mmo?
Long boss fights, funner with friends, grindig, loot, equipment upgrading, powers upgradeing, mixes reviews. ...sounds mmo to me.

[Forbidden_Darkness]

@Kingthrash: A MMO stands for Massively Multiplayer Online. Not a 3 man fire team/6 man raids per world. The only place that contains a good amount of players is The Tower and that's in no way a MMO because of that.

And Borderlands has all of that and isn't called a MMO.

[Snookies12]

@Kingthrash360 - As Forbidden_Darkness stated, an MMO stands for Massively Multi-player. Destiny throws you into a hub area, then pairs you off with a few people in missions. Again, it simply borrows from the MMO genre with the way it does things. It's not an MMO, and shouldn't be labeled as such.

[ShinMaster]

@ Kingthrash360

You just described any RGP.
And "funner with friends" applies to any multiplayer game.

[nix]

Snookies.. you mean to say RPG.. with multiplayer angle.

[Sevir]

It is very much a Massive Multiplayer Online game, exactly what it is. Constraining you to a 3-6 person party for missions and raids and strikes is a DESIGN choice, in the larger portion of the game, standard missions you can do solo or in a group, you still see random players roaming about the world interacting with the same points of interest as you and your 3 man team does, like you'll see in Games like WoW or FF14 or whatever else MMO you know... And the fact that live players of the 10000s and more populate the world and you come across them every second whether it being a mission, strike or exploration for loot and gear, it's exactly what an MMO is just under different design choices. They Designed Destiny to be more cohesive and coherent to intimate social play online, you really can't get that form of communication when from a large player party count, and it provides the right amount of challenge and just enough of the carrot dangling in front of your face to keep you motivated to keep going.

Destiny is an MMO with polished tropes of the fps genre with the added bonus of a deep social mechanic and PVP modes ultimately makes this much more appeasing than your standard MMO like WoW or FF11/14...

[kurruptor]

It isn't a damn MMO. Bungie never said it was an MMO. They actually said it was not an MMO.

If the most people you see on the screen at a time is like 6. That isn't an MMO.

Have you idiots ever played an MMO? Hundreds or thousands of people in the same world at the same time. You could visit any of them if you knew where they were.

[Spotie]

It's close enough.

Which means people shouldn't be surprised if it has some similarities, like a slow start.

[Hellsvacancy]

Yeah, a Mini Multiplayer Online game

[Gravity_DoGG]

truth

[RebelWAC]

pew pew

[joab777]

Finally. And yeah, just look at FF14 or DCUO or Warframe. 1 yr after launch they r an entirely different animal, much bigger than before.

Bungie biggest mistake was not marketing it as an mmofpsrpg.

[King_of_Nothing]

They didnt market it that way because thats not what it is. 3 man teams per area is far and away from mmo.

[Hard8times]

Bungie said and I quote "it's not a MMO"

[VsAssassin]

A game that opens up 20 hours in sounds like Final Fantasy XIII. Oh, wait. FF XIII needed you to play 30 hours until it opens up. /s

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

i liked that game start to finish.

[equal_youth]

this game has an identity crisis :/ but coop and mp mechanics are great.

[joab777]

I kinda agree. In reality, it doesnt. It's an mmo. The crisis comes in what ppl thought it was, or what reviewers r reviewing it as. And what Bungie shied away from.

It's an amazing game w/ just enough for launch. Please keep playing if u invested. U can always stop if u still hate it. But if u hav never played an mmo, play until level 20-22. Then quit if u still don't like it.

Yeah maybe they could a added some cutscenes for those who bought it just for sp, but this game was never intended to b that. Give it a chance, u just might find one of the most enjoyable addictive games out there.

[Einhert]

Exactly one of my key points about this game

If the first 20 hours are no good then that is a game design failure, last I checked the first 20 hours of any game are still part of the game...

[UnwanteDreamz]

Most of the people talking about end game content are responding to those cying about lack of content why are you cherry picking to support your hate? If you dont enjoy the first hour you wont enjoy it I guess but the truth is the first hour isnt indicative of the entire experience. Ive noticed you on a mission with that bubble. It must really bother you that millions bought the game and are enjoying it.

[TekoIie]

" If you dont enjoy the first hour you wont enjoy it I guess but the truth is the first hour isnt indicative of the entire experience."

Except we're not talking about a single hour. We're talking about 20 hours. If it takes 20 hours to get into a game then it's best not to bother with it at all.

"Ive noticed you on a mission with that bubble. It must really bother you that millions bought the game and are enjoying it."

And you're on a mission with 5, so whats your point? It must really bother you that millions bought the game and aren't enjoying it as much as you.

[mhunterjr]

This is the argument supports keep spewing. Wait until the end game, wait until they release more content... Why should anyone have to wait to enjoy the game they just spend $60 on?

[UnwanteDreamz]

Again in response to criticism about lack of content and level caps but go ahead and continue to strawman.

[mhunterjr]

No, it's been in response to bad reviews due the lack of fun to be had at launch of the game.

You are the strawman

[danowat]

You should really think about the first 1-20 levels (and the story to some extent) as some kind of extended tutorial, and not the "real game".

The "real game" gets going once you hit level 20..........

[UnwanteDreamz]

You dont even have your characters subclass leveled at 20. New powers still waiting to be unlocked.

[danowat]

Sub class unlocks at level 15, but I get what you're saying :)

[UnwanteDreamz]

Yeah I just meant you wont have it full upgraded by lvl20

[Software_Lover]

I think it safe to say that the majority of console players have not played MMO's.

This reminds me of Mass Effect. The game didn't get good until you became a specter. A lot of people called the game boring and never even got to that point.

[Kane22]

oh no, this game being on consoles doesn't mean anything. if a game starts off too damn slow a lot of people will stop playing it. i don't care what system its on.

[danowat]

I think you're right, Bungie should leave the MMO genre to the people who know how to make a good MMO (i.e. Blizzard)

I'm also not convinced that the console is the best place for this kind of title, lots of people have purchased the game expecting a halo game, when in reality all they've got is a (pretty badly designed) MMO title.

[King_of_Nothing]

@Danowat-

I agree with you, except for the expectations aspect. Personally, I bought the game thinking I was getting an fpsMMO title, but I feel like what I really got was a watered down Halo title without the Halo charm.

[Trekster_Gamer]

Mass Effect was fun from the start and you became a specter Early. Basically at the beginning of the game.

Any game that supposedly you have to play for many hours to become fun is a crap game.

No story, and playing the same darn level over and over and over killed what fun I was have fairly quickly!

[ShadowWolf712]

Actually, a good portion of the first Mass Effect game kinda dragged its feet. It's really not until you're forced to make that first big choice between Kaidan and Ashley that it got really intense, imo. And then there's the effin' Mako...

Still, had people given up on that game early too...

[listenkids]

If you don't have fun once you start up the game, chances are you won't enjoy 20 hours later.

[HeavenlySnipes]

It doesn't take 20 hours to get to level 20. its more like 5-7 hours

I've played for about 15 hours and I'm level 24

[solidt12]

How? I know I have played at least 10 hours and I am at level 12. So how did you get to level 20 in 5-7 hours. I am waiting.

[HeavenlySnipes]

Crucible and loads of bounties

Bounties give you lots of experience. The daily strikes do as well

[iceman06]

Probably a LOT of Crucible. I noticed that I leveled up much faster while playing it. Plus, they had the double xp this weekend for one of the match types. I have played about 12 hours and just reached level 20. About 3-4 hours was purely crucible stuff and I leveled from 14 to 17 in just that time. From 17-20 was 2 strikes and some patrolling on the Moon. Of course, there were Vangard and Crucible bounties gained during that time...and spinmetal that I turned in. But, it's entirely possible.

[Kevdater]

I'm borderlands the pre-sequel instead of this piece of garbage

[DeadlyOreo]

Well it's not garbage is it. I'm really excited for Borderlands Pre Sequel too, but Destiny is a great game to tie me over until it comes out.

[Kevdater]

Buy

[fr3d0]

I like borderlands but Destiny's graphics, gameplay and presentation are of a higher calibre.

[Avernus]

End game content? You mean the 1 raid that's coming tomorrow? WOW! That's content!

Can't say I'm disappointed with Destiny as my hopes were low to begin with. You can sense Activision wants to sell the story piece by piece, one $20 DLC at a time.

Every MP game mode is just a version of TDM, with salvage being the only real objective game mode...no, domination is just another glorified TDM.

The loot system is a lazy one, where EVERY THING is random. There's no drop table besides Ascendent materials which can be farmed in public events. In Crucible you have people going 4-20 and getting Legendary drops. Saw twice where losing teams got Exotic drops. Rewarding failure? You can literally AFK, and get a Legendary drop.

There's so much things that are wrong with the game, that it'll be a wall of text. The MP is fun, game mechanics solid, and even though it's only 30 fps it runs smooth for the most part. The game's fun, and it passes the time with friends, but it was way over hyped for what the game is atm.

[moegooner88]

No you don't, game is fun from the moment you start. If you don't enjoy it, that's fine, but people keep repeating what they read without trying the game and passing it off as a fact, which honestly is pathetic.

[Avernus]

Well I don't know about "repeating what they read". It's more like a common opinion, which is different. Just like you and many people have no problems with the game, there's people who do. I won't call your opinion "pathetic" however.

There's valid complaints, and there's people overdoing the whining.

I won't say the game is fun from the start. Killing bosses is nothing more than a test of patience, rather than wit or skill.

- Proceed to boss

- Press square somewhere to activate ghost

- Proceed to wait for a hoard, or 3

- After killing said hoard, continue to boss

- Kill boss' minions, then chip away at the boss' massive HP, then kill boss

^ Every single boss fight in Destiny is like this
I'm not hating on the game, but that's a fact. Fair enough it's a FPS campaign, but there's no variation to boss fights. Just saying, you might like that, but some don't.

[psforward]

I've killed a few bosses rather quickly and I'm not that great at fps...Some are bullet sponges though.

[beerzombie]

I'm glad I bought Diablo on my X1 best choice of gaming I made. Better everything and it has an end game ,and multiplayer on and off line.

[endzeitkind]

yea right, after 20 hours you switch to another game. thats why its getting better.

[Dirkster_Dude]

For me this game IS CRAP. What is important in a game for me is these elements: story, RPG aspects, character distinctiveness, exploration, and variety. Destiny fails in every way in each of these areas. The only thing Destiny is good at is being a multiplayer FPS shooter. Admittedly that is very good, but it was marketed and sold as something different. Well, all other aspects of the game other than what Bungie is known for is crap.

[Gr1mmyshadows]

I really dont understand how people dont like this game. It the most fun i have had playing a game in a LONG time. I dont kow what people were expecting this game to be but it has surpassed all of my expectations. Im lvl 26 right now and i just cant get enough of this game. Bungie has made another epic game

[psforward]

Maybe people got bored replaying the earth missions from the alpha and beta. It really picked up for me when the moon missions started.

[solidt12]

Moon Missions are dope and when you get to Venus it gets really crazy, and more challenging. I'm at lvl 12 now.

[r3f1cul]

it just gets really really really repetitive... like seriously... its all about the end game?? really what end game? doing the same few strikes and im guessing raids for gear that you never get because the gear system makes diablo 3 at launch look like an all you can eat buffet of loot... ive put in at least 60 hours forcing myself to play to try and get better gear and ive barely got anything of note...and when you do get some stuff going the game limits you in what you can actually accomplish... by this i mean you can only get 100 vanguard and crucible marks per week... PER FUCKING WEEK!!! like why???? and you can only hold 25k glimmer... but thats kinda ok because there is nothing worthy of actually spending your fucking money on in the first place... like seriously why have money, its only there for upgrades which are pretty easy to get as long as they dont require ascendant energy or some other random rare end game item that you will so rarely see you will doubt its in the game... im all for grinding to get some gear, but you have to put some level of reward in there or people who kinda like your game will just get salty at the complete lack of any feeling of advancement which is incredibly disappointing in an rpg setting.. thanks to all who read the rant let me know how you feel... just repetitive and unrewarding to sum it up :P lol

[Brucis]

Bungie screwed up on some things (story, the "Dinklebot hacks locked door, kill waves, proceed to boss" formula being reused too much) but the amount of hate this game gets is honestly ridiculous at times for the good things they have (actual gameplay, lore, atmosphere, upgrades, etc). Also, it really doesn't take 20 in-game hours to hit Lvl 20 unless you move at a snail's pace.

[D-riders]

if oyu like shooters then this is a great game if not then you will complain about things like structure and story

[thepatientgamer]

Journey did the hop in hop out multiplayer first and better than destiny which is a damn shame. had high hopes for this one.

[Slevon]

Well if you dont like the gameplay then more "end game" content isnt going to change your mind. If you dont like borderlands then likely youre not going to like destiny. People hyped this game to be godlike and it obviously fell short but what blows my mind is that many loved the beta and when the game came out its the beta just more of it with the lack of a story and its apparently the worst let down ever.

[TekKing]

You don't HAVE to do anything. There are plenty of people that actually like the game and will continue playing as it will only get better.

[Flamingweazel]

It is not good after 20 hours after.....only people saying that are fanboys. It's a average game.

[kryteris]

its not that good. The pvp is the best part, coop is so so but farming loot has some appeal. The great melee and scifi like abilities make it worthwhile. I really whish, like titan fall that they'd done something unique with multiplayer.

[pinkyxyz]

final fantasy 13 alert

[jmc8888]

Dumb premise for an article.

Take a quote, completely take it out of context, that add a ton of sophistry.

As I've said before, the single player is like Warframe. That's good. In fact it's a better core then Warframe. The difference is, Warframe has had over a dozen content updates because it's been out for a long while. Of course Warframe is also free, so that's a big plus in its favor.

But the PvE aspect of the game is only starting. It's disappointing how the content of this area is a bit light, but again we are comparing it to other MMO's that have been out a while, and while it was always going to seem light in content, it is indeed lighter then it should have been.

But it also has this completely other side of it, the PvP. This area is quite like Halo, though also decidedly different. It's quite good fun. Some people will only play this portion and be completely fine with their purchase.

Graphical quality of playing portions is meh, but it works out fine because it's incredibly detailed. The cutscenes are fantastic.

It's pretty cool looking at the lava flows of Venus while you see a big mountain in the background and what looks like meteor/shooting stars entering the atmosphere. It's clear that if the assets were a bit better, it had everything else going on for it to be quite amazing graphically.

I don't know where things are headed, but the whole get to level 20 then look for 'light' gear is definitely new. If I had to guess I'll say subsequent updates will update BOTH pathways to progress. They'll have some updates that increase the vanilla level cap, and other updates to increase the light levels that can be added above that. Wouldn't surprise me to see them add other types of gear beyond 'light'.

I can see the frustrations being valid, but there is still quite a lot to like. Some aspects of this game are completely nailed. Plus you know this is a long term commitment from Bungie to support and update this game. What hurt Bungie was that the Alpha gave you about 1/3rd of what the game launched with, and Bungie was clearly hyping it for more.

But a reality check is necessary. Titanfall came out a buggy mess, as half a game, with plans already for a Titanfall 2, and somehow this much larger and grander game is being rated lower? That's nuts.

Having played both games Destiny is clearly far superior, even with it's flaws, and temporary lack of major content.

Plants Vs. Zombies Garden Warfare currently beats both, but at least Destiny has the ability to add more content to close that gap over time.

[Johnsonparts23]

so we complain that the game/story are too short, then we complain that we have to play too long to get to the good stuff. Sounds like haters gonna hate.

[frankiebeans]

story in the game is pretty much nonexistent so it has nothing going for it. if it was the same game and had a team of 10 people in one story mission with more enemies and stronger to make it seem like a war it be fun but I have more than 2 friends that I play with so its not cutting it.

[frankiebeans]

ACTUALLY IT GETS BORING BECAUSE YOURE STUCK DOING THE SAME SHIT OVER AND OVER

[ScaryMonkey]

You just described every FPS game and about 90% of every other game as well.

[frankiebeans]

yea but they dont claim to be an mmo and have more to them than whats offered in destiny destiny is just a shell with no filling or really bland filling just a horrible execution of what they were going for

[captainexplosion]

I've played Destiny for maybe 18 hours. I beat the campaign and I am currently level 20. I can't figure out what you have to do to go beyond level 20. I had a blast playing the game but as soon as I beat the game and hit level 20 I ran out of things to do.

[ion666]

If you to play destiny with a soundtrack I recommend the star wars episode 1 musical score .Its goes perfectly with the game.It really does feel like your a jedi.I use the music unlimited from sony.

[Claudinho69]

welcome to the mmo world , which people been loving for years.

[ScaryMonkey]

Funny I dont remember the original Halo getting this much scrutiny. Kids these days.

[DougLord]

Whether a game is good or not depends a lot on the person playing it. Their are technical areas that are less subjective. Is it buggy or does it control well. For people that like competitive multilayer (DOTA COD) this game is probably an 8 or 9. For people that like story driven FPS or loot games (Diablo, Borderlands) it's probably a 7. But for people looking for a FPS MMO, a FPS RPG this is clearly a 5 or 6. And blended all together it's getting roughly a 7.5 Metascore.

The real problem is that Destiny was billed as the next big thing. It was going to be a competitive multiplayer FPS RPG MMO. It was going to be the next WOW mixed with COD. $500mm over 10 years. And it fell flat for at least half of its target audience.

That and the Sony Fanbois on N4G built this up as a Sony exclusive that would extend the PS4 lead from 5mm units to 20mm. Most of the people on here whining about the scores accuse MSFT of bribing reviews and planting comments. They whine about how Titanfall got better reviews for what they say is less content. And they ignore the fact that Sony and Bungie built this hype, witheld copies from reviewers and threatened anyone that dared to put out a review before Destiny sold $1bbn.

[tenacious_b]

You lost my attention at Fanbois.... Congrats.

[Petebloodyonion]

The problem with Destiny vs other games is the fact that media are trying to protect the game from from the truth.

Don't you find it strange that a lot of big media has yet to give you a final verdict for this game but they sure can make a review in progress for the whole week while there's a big Destiny banner on top of the web site.

I don't recall another game where all gaming site decide to wait a whole week to give a review and that include other MMO.

[Maxor]

All of the claims about the end game being good is an absolute lie spread by fanboys and noobs. If some of the fanboys here are actually at the end game then they know what I'm talking about.

The end game is not only souless, it's also BROKEN. The best way to progress and grind gear isn't by doing high end strikes like they claim at all. But rather to grind level 8-15 strikes and heroic missions. That is essentially the state of Destiny right now. Level 20 strike teams doing lvl 8 normal strikes and level 12 heroic missions for gear.

It won't be long before the general population realize this and this polish turd of the game will sink deeper into the abyss.

[McGamer]

I enjoy Destiny the way it is in not catering to the 'instant gratification' whiners who don't have the patience to put time into a game.

[kurruptor]

So some people say they ran out of things to do within a couple days.

Some people complain the game doesn't even start after couple days.

Right.

[its_JEFF]

Wait what... do you mean after 20 hrs Destiny gets better? Cause I've been having a blast for far, is this a bad thing?

This happens with a lot of big releases, this time its Destiny, people try to destroy/tare it down. That's the just the way it is, it's sh*tty behavior but it happens. IDK about everyone else but so far everyone on my friends list who I've played Destiny with have really liked it.

[Jack_Reacher]

This game is proof casual gamers have killed gaming. Ok so the worlds are a bit empty and tho im not sure what could have done with more stuff to find and loot. But after that its solid.

It requires working at it. The higher level I get the better it gets. More areas you can manage.

Love the way the co op works. Oh and going back to do mission s at a higher level for better reward is great.

You know what. So long haters. Im sure you wont be happy till your next little plastic cod game comes out. So sad.

[ibrake4naps]

Is this the twilight zone? I like sliced bread, but this game is better than that!

[Cid33]

so once you become addicted it becomes good. nice