The PS4 And Xbox One Are Already Out Of Date

Nothing makes me laugh more than the ongoing obsession with the Xbox One’s difficulties rendering games at a full 1080p resolution.

[aceitman]

So is a 1,500 pc I bought 6 months ago

[XBLSkull]

By the time hardware gets to the shelf where you can buy it there is already something better, so it makes me laugh that you probably spend $2000 building PC's that are already out of date.

Edit: assumed it was a PC elitist article, just 4K BS. 4K is great but almost no 4K content exists, it isn't going to become mainstream any time soon.

[iSuperSaiyanGod]

4k movies & players will start moving out next holiday season at affordable prices . I'm super stoked . But for my Blu Ray collection that will take a hit lol

[Future_2015]

except all games run natively at 4K with a 4K monitor

[dcbronco]

Samsung has a very good 4k for just under $1400 us. Not bad compared to the $5000 just a couple of years ago.

[ScottyHoss]

^what?...

[Rowco147]

Ps4 is 4k ready for video. Not games though

[Army_of_Darkness]

The author needs a little more common sense here... In a business perspective, do you think that it's wise to invest in a console that is capable of native 4k resolution while considering the fact that 4ktv's are still fairly new to the consumer, high price tags plus with very few people having it in their household would be a good idea?? Lol! Sony and Microsoft are much smarter than that. A 4k console would probably cost at least double what we're paying now and I doubt there would be that much people lining up to purchase one since you gotta fork out another $3 to $5k on a new TV just to experience it properly. The specs in the consoles now are done intentionally To accommodate current 1080p TV's that are practically in very household.
Sony knows that consumers will not spend that kind of money on entertainment these days and don't even get me started on how much the games would cost lol!

[Daniel_Potter]

Well, there is 4K porn(look up Naughty America 4K)
And most games support 4K resolution, so it's not really as pointless as you think
4K screens cost ~500$ now days, but considering that 4K is 400% bigger than 1080p you are required to get 2 graphic cards - TITAN's, 780Ti's, R9 290X's

[ThanatosDMC]

Love how articles like these never talk about things like optimization.

[SilentNegotiator]

Stupid, stupid Sony and Microsoft...clearly they should have gone with $1000 consoles. Those would have totally sold. /s

[UltimateMaster]

Ultimately, it comes down to the Game developers' choice in what resolution/frame rate/graphical fidelity the game should be.

You can claim all you want that your PC could do 1080p a few years ago, but they're still the exact same game, often poorly optimized ports of the same game on every platform.

You take a game like Crysis 3 at ultra high settings and a "4k" PC may not have enough power to get all the settings at max, with a stable 60fps frame rate.

The more demanding the game is, the more likely it is to drop the resolution/frame rate of it in order to maximized the number of elements on screen.

Technology will always evolve, but I just feel bad for the person that has to change smart-phone ever 4 months because something new came along.

IMO, and that has always been the case, the resolution factor is not the most important thing. I'd much rather have a 720p game with higher Graphical Setting/AKA: Visual Fidelity than anything else.

The best way to game on PC is to make your own PC. The majority of people do not want to be bothered with it. Like the article said, if the PS4 is outdated, then so is the next PC, and so on and so forth.

Today's technology is tomorrow's classic technology.

[RosweeSon]

If it's only about 4K they can take sony out think they've already got that covered in a future update when it's actually necessary and there's more than 35 people with a 4K telly. Ie not for at least 12-24 months

[ShinMaster]

How many of these insecure PC fan articles do we need?
lol

[EDIT] Never mind, the author seems a little more obsessed with 4K when there's little 4K content in the first place. Wait, isn't the PS4 4K ready(for video)?
He just mentions one source that claims that you won't be able to buy 1080p TVs in two years. Which is BS btw.

[MrPink2013]

How many insecure console fans are there? They all go hand in hand. Until we can all get along and get back to basics, enjoying video games, we will continue to highlight why articles like these exist.

The thing is consoles are handicapped by its pricing model versus being mainstream. It's also why consoles have a heck of a time selling if they are priced over $400.

PC gaming is for purists who want the best possible performance. Nothing wrong with that. Same thing with wanting the best sound system or best cinema home system.

What is troubling though is how game developers continue to want to push visual candy over performance. All games should at least be 1080p now. Along if course with a stable frame rate starting at 30fps. The PS4 is doing a better job at it but there are still some games that struggle to reach that. Blame the developer or the hardware, doesn't matter because you can get that and more on the PC. I think this article highlights how the new systems have already fallen behind the PC this quickly which didn't happen before.

[user5669510]

Let's not count the bitter console fanboys and their dumb elitist I'm better than you articles.

[dcbronco]

I won't say 1080p will be gone in two years but I'll say they will in four. The low starting price and extremely fast drop after leads me to believe things will happen more quickly than with HD in general.

I think consoles are restricted by their pricing model. Sony may have been onto something with the initial production cost of the PS3, but they made a mistake with architecture. If they had made a console better tool and that lived up to the power expectations it might have been less of a struggle last generation. Imagine current generation machines with x86 architectures but highly modified cores and the beefiest modified GPUs. Go with a $600 launch price but have something amazing to show for that price.

The problem with going cheap this generation is that new APIs will make the power gap so much more pronounced this time. Mantle was bad enough but after 2015 and DX12, things will quickly get ugly. Sony better be ready to move Now and Microsoft better have Azure ready to prove the power of teh cloud and their architecture on One if the don't want Steam boxes to take over.

[starchild]

"PC gaming is for purists who want the best possible performance. Nothing wrong with that. Same thing with wanting the best sound system or best cinema home system."

Exactly. It's for enthusiast that care a lot about how their games look and run (as well as the other advantages the PC offers).

I think all gaming platforms have something worthwhile to offer. I like my PC and my consoles. I honestly have no problem with people who choose to only game on one console as long as they are honest with themselves and others about the platform and their reasons for choosing it.

The problem arises when people act like their $400 console is just as good as a high end PC. It's simply not true and it's a slap in the face to anybody that actually knows and appreciates the differences.

I mean, I'm into the home theater scene in addition to gaming and I have a nice sound system and a nice display, but definitely not the best in the world. To draw a parallel between the home theater scene and the gaming scene I would have to say that I have no problem with somebody that says "hey, I'm happy watching all of my movies on a 40" HDTV using the onboard speakers" as long as they respect others that have more discerning taste. They shouldn't pretend that their 40"cheap brand TV is just as good as those with high end projectors and sound systems.

It's the same thing with gaming. I have no problem with people that choose to do all their gaming on a console. Where it becomes a problem is when certain individuals act like their console is just as good in every way as a high end PC. Anybody that games on a high end PC and consoles knows that simply isn't true.

[ShinMaster]

Wow, it didn't take much for all these people to show up.
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@ MrPink2013

> says console fans are insecure too, then proceeds to justify his PC gaming choice lol. No need, buddy.
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@ Consoleslateagain

""dumb elitist I'm better than you""
*reads username* Oh the hypocrisy.
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Hey, you all don't see me going into PC-only articles and claiming how much better consoles are, do you?

[aceitman]

And not to mention smartphones and tablets.

[gamernova]

Ah, man. You don't buy an expensive PC. You build one :/ but I do get your point. Tech is always evolving. It's great and a pain in the ass.

[Eddie20101]

Why do a lot of PC gamer's feel so threatened by consoles?

Consoles aren't harming PC gaming, PC gamer's are and the fact that PC's aren't standardized nor are many of the people that play PC games for that matter.

The problems that harm or hinder PC gaming:

Pirating, steeling content. Often times not willing to pay retail for games. Most people who buy games on PC buy when the cost is reduced. Makes it pretty hard for publishers and developers to make decent sustainable profits.

So many variations in hardware, making it impossible to make a game that runs well on every system.

There are a lot of gamer's on PC but a huge majority are Casual gamer's not hard core gamer's. Many of those hardcore gamer's are the one's that pirate games.

PC's are more complicated from the start to even play a game. You have to deal with driver updates system specifications. which some people don't completely understand. It take a considerable amount of effort to play PC games, granted, for that effort you sometimes get an amazing experience and can sometimes be creative with mods and art, but the people that want to do those things is not nearly as big as the amount of people that simply want play a game.

I like PC gaming and have spent many hours learning the in and outs of PC's in general. But I like console just as much and understand they both have their place for consumers.

If some PC gamer's were completely honest they would admit that consoles even with weaker hardware can have games that are pretty darn good looking and playing, it's not always about pixel count and detailed lighting effects, art style and good use of limited resources can sometimes produce better results than a machine with seemingly unlimited resources.

Neither is going away, just be happy that you are able to play games and that there are options for playing them.

[LonDonE]

Thank you! u pretty much nailed it!
I too own and game on EVERY platform including pc and i too feel the way you do, i just wish more gamers were like u and me! bubble up for u my good sir for speaking the truth and with logic!

[Vegamyster]

"Why do a lot of PC gamer's feel so threatened by consoles?"

Why do MS & Sony fans bicker back and forth? Why did Sega & Nintendo fans do the same thing in the 80's/90's? You have fanboys on all platforms who will defend there preferred platform at all lengths, it's not exclusive to just one or two.

For the rest of your comment you get somethings right but exaggerate others, like i said in another article piracy may be bigger on the PC but profits continue to grow due to digital distributors like Steam, GoG, Gamersgate, Greenmangaming, Getgame, Amazon Digital, Gamefly ect even if people do buy games when they're cheaper.

Like you said, people should just be happy both exist.

[strangeaeon]

You are right about piracy, I can go to any torrent site right now and get pretty much anything I want.Luckily Steam exists so hopefully the lower prices mitigate this somewhat.

[JD_Shadow]

"Consoles aren't harming PC gaming, PC gamer's are and the fact that PC's aren't standardized nor are many of the people that play PC games for that matter."

There's a major problem with that statement, and that has to do with publishers that port games from console to PC and cannot be asked to optimize the game when they port it to run on PC to take advantage of hardware. When you lock your game at 30 FPS on the PC when a system is more than capable of doing well more than 60 or even 120, you have an issue.

And if the game is broken as a direct result of the port being shit, and no one cares to do anything about it, you get the notion that consoles CAN harm the PC market as much as those that choose to treat that PC market as an afterthought. Blame the publishers (like EA, for instance) for making it that way, not the gamers that complain about it.

[Eddie20101]

@LoneDonE

Thanks for the compliment, Appreciate it. glad you agree

I wish gaming hadn't become such a pissing contest. I know it's always been this way, but never to the complete extreme it is now. Unfortunately most of it is fueled by the internet. For people that like to get as much information as possible about gaming, it's very hard to avoid it and sometimes you unknowingly become part of it. I think it's lessened my enjoyment of gaming slightly.

[Azzanation]

The difference is your gaming rig still plays the latest games at there best quality even though your hardware is outdated, where as PS4 and XB1 struggle to deliver next gen games at the quality they should be. Play Metro Redux or the upcoming GTA5 to see that consoles fail to deliver the best quality. Anyone buying a PS4 or XB1 for graphics arent very bright. Buy them for there games only.

[ARESWARLORD]

lol I love gaming on PC but PCs are out of date by the time you finish building them. Just fight the upgrade itch and run them in to the ground.

[Hooby]

Not at all. Out of Date does not mean not having the most current expensive components on the market, it means not being able to support the current high resolutions comfortably, which is looking to be 4k.

[GarrusVakarian]

Consoles are outdated the moment their specs are finalized. PC's are a constantly moving platform, a fixed platform can't keep up...literally.

[PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt]

does that mean great games like GTA will come to PC first no.....

i can careless about fixed specs as long as Console gamers are put FIRST.. and the games look good enough.. doesnt have to be the best

Opinion articles are getting out of hand they need their own Section just for opinions... it spreads hate more then love

[Daniel_Potter]

Well, if the whole "x86 pc architecture" is true
Than GTA VI will probably come out on pc on the same date as console's

[badz149]

@Daniel_Porter

if you think that GTAV was released first on consoles because of different architectures, you couldn't be more wrong! you honestly think GTA6 will simultaneously released on pc? LOL

piracy is significantly less rampant on consoles compared to pc, that's the major reason #1! and due to no resale value on pc, games have to be sold cheaper, meaning lower profit margin on top of revenue 'loss' due to piracy and that's reason #2. #3, GTA is a MASSIVE franchise with MASSIVE brand recognition and R* is confident it will sell bucket loads and it was smart of them to take advantage of that. but make it available on pc on the same day as consoles, it will be pirated as heaven's high too and that would be counter productive! how much do you wanna bet that when GTAV released on pc this November, it will be one of the most pirated/torrented game in history? no one would dare to bet against THAT!

people might say, devs/publisher need to include pc to make money but with GTAV, R* has proven that's not entirely true. but they have an advantage with how huge the GTA franchise is. other publishers, devs can't make the same bet because there are little to no franchise that have a huge impact as GTA and they need every sell they can get. you don't believe me? try giving an example of a multiplat game selling better than consoles. almost non-existence! why? there are supposedly millions upon millions more pc gamers than console gamers, right? pc gamers pirate more, end of story!

[Daniel_Potter]

#1 Used games give 0% profit to developers as well. So i guess it's equivalent to piracy on consoles.
#2 But it's digital content isn't it? Most of those insane sales happen on digital stores for the most part. Considering that it doesn't cost anything to make a digital copy, is putting a game on sale a loss? Or is it a clever marketing trick?

As you see, PC gaming has evolved and digital distribution has surpassed console's physical distribution. It dealt with problems like
1) limit to how many game copies a store can have
2) how older games are likely to be removed from shelves(thus stopping the game from giving profit)
3) Steam takes only 30% of the share from the sales, the rest go to the developer. With consoles, only 45% go to the publisher.
http://kotaku.com/5479698/w...

If piracy was such a big deal on pc, then AAA publishers would have likely abandoned pc a long time ago. Do you really think Rockstar would have bothered releasing GTA V on pc if they knew that no profit would come out of it? GTA IV probably sold well during the past few years on summer/winter sales.
Look at Wii U, it has technical limitations, it has a small userbase, it has complex architecture. AAA publishers simply don't want to deal with that platform. AAA publishers will never abandon pc, it uses a unique way to distribute games, that's way more effective. It uses the same architecture as current gen consoles, and it has a userbase of 75 million active accounts. I guess Sony & Microsoft just tipped off Rockstar, just imagine how many gamers would have joined pc if it was released on pc? GTA V on consoles barely had any anti aliasing, and had 5 min loading times and frequent dips below 30 fps.

[ShinMaster]

That's like saying that PCs are outdated the moment new and better parts hits the shelves two months after you finished building one...

[GribbleGrunger]

But great games are timeless.

[ARESWARLORD]

Thats 100 percent true GribbleGrunger. I still have love for NES games and play some until this day. Great games will live forever.

[Ares84HU]

I'm the same just with Ps1 games. Just got 10 PS1 games the other day as well. If the game is good, graphics don't matter that much.

[Letthewookiewin]

Nailed it Grib.

[sonic989]

Spoken like a true gamer

[Kingdomcome247]

I couldn't agree more. Speaking for myself I grew up on 8 bit consoles, or I should say that era is where my gaming passion was kindled. The amount of progress that's been made since then is both staggering, and awesome. Graphical fidelity is a large contributing factor when it comes to immersion. I concede that. I just feel as though the thirst for higher pixel counts, and greater graphical fidelity has supplanted gameplay in regards to people's primary concern. I don't mean to say that's all people care about. It's great to want top flight graphics without compromises being made to gameplay innovation. We were spoiled last generation. We witnessed an incredible leap forward, but at times I feel as though it's also taken us as a collective gaming community backwards as far as our mindset is concerned. Great games as Gribblegrunger stated, are absolutely timeless. I just can't help but feel that sometimes we forget what it is that actually constitutes a great game. HD was great, full native 1080p is great, and 4k is amazing. Personally though, those things are not why I fell in love with games, nor will they be what keeps me coming back to games. No matter what platform you're on, you're a gamer to me, and in my mind share a special kinship of sorts. Sorry this was so long guys.

[sonic989]

I started with sega genesis and I loved every piece of it not because of the graphics but because how much I felt connected to the games emotionally and mentally the games that can really capture that feeling decreased magnificently last gen personally I consider last gen as the worst gen ever for me at least it was all about graphics and shooters or middle ages games both of which I got sick off.
The timeless games like ico and shadow of the colossus and many others didnt come to us last gen and honestly if it wasnt for nintendo even though I am not a nintendo fan we could have lost that magic completely.
I can also thank sony they made some fantastic efforts with lbp ratchet patapon and sly etc. but they could have done more nevertheless great efforts .
The problem is the market now is focused on one type of gaming and one type of gamer the old school ones like us seems like they have no place anymore because even the franchises that we love or the genres that we like have been put behind sometimes I used to be happy with one mediocre platformer just because I want one so badly honestly sly 4 could have been a much much better game if it had bigger budget but you know the shooter boys wont care about it so why waste money on it.
PS4 is probably my last console if things dont improve and hopefully it will.

[unknownbystander]

I know this is off topic, but the Wii U owners are sadly getting the same kind of judgement when PS4 and Xbox One are compared to the Wii U. Yet, many people just shrug it off, and say it's weak or has no games.

Owning both PS4 and Wii U, even though the Wii U isn't as technologically advanced as PS4, it still has many hidden jewels that people tend to not see. Games that are actually fun for the heart, not just some egotistical train of manliness type of games like most shooters today(not saying the PS4 and Xbox One are completely full of these, but their library contains a lot of these types of games).

There seems to be a bias within most people about Nintendo and their hardware. Many people laugh at the Wii U and say that their PS4's and Xbox One's are stronger just to make themselves feel better, or cool, while the same thing is happening to them when it comes to PC.

This statement whatsoever is not directed towards you. I just wanted to give out a piece of my mind about the gaming community at large, and the people who belittle other consoles and their owners.

[starchild]

Exactly. I dislike that kind of bias. The same individuals will bash the Wii U non-stop (or the XB1) just because it isn't as powerful as the PS4, but somehow when the PC comes into the picture it suddenly becomes "all about the games". And it's like well, can't people enjoy games on the Wii U and XB1 even if the graphics aren't as good as on PS4? And aren't there good games on the PC too?

I think those people try to have it both ways, depending on if they are trying to dismiss the PC or dismiss one of the consoles.

[Whirlwind_Fanfare_08]

@GribbleGrunger

Spot on with that one.

[Kingdomcome247]

@Sonic- I can identify with that. Some of my most joyful memories in gaming are rooted in countless hours spent with Sonic, and Super Mario World. Ratchet&Clank absolutely nailed that feeling for me. I love darker themed games immensely. Bioshock 1 is my favorite game of all time. I just would love to see the comeback of great platformers. Rayman Legends was a bright spot in recent memory. I personally bought an Xbox One this gen due to having never owned an Xbox, and there already being a PS4 in my home. Microsoft is the worst camp to be in of the big three if your looking for a great platformer. The publishers and devs are going to develop towards the largest common denominator, and that just so happens to be shooters. I've always loved Sony for their sheer breadth of diverse quality IPs, and I'll always respect Nintendo for the courage they display in blazing their own trail. Microsoft has some games in the pipeline that I'm truly looking forward to, none more so than Quantum Break. That said they just don't provide the diversity I've come to know, and love. Ori is my sole hope right now as far as platformers are concerned from Microsoft. I'm grateful for being able to witness the incredible evolution of the industry, I just hope that we don't completely forget where we came from.

[Kayant]

Argument about 4K is silly.

1. 4K prices can continue to drop if they want, they are still not unaffordable for mainstream and majority that would be buying the consoles.

2. Both consoles support 4K media which is more than enough. 4K gaming is extremely taxing even to the most powerful GPU's.

3. 4K content is still very low and will continue to be low for a number of years.

4. Simply put current-gen console are not outdated in terms of 4K content.

[ARESWARLORD]

Re read the article Kayant.

This is what they are saying,

(Even the makers of the Xbox One and PS4 acknowledge that 4K is a big deal. Ahead of each console’s launch last year speakers for both Microsoft and Sony were falling over themselves to try and suggest that their consoles would handle some sorts of 4K content – be it their interfaces, their streaming capabilities or even, particularly optimistically, their Blu-ray drives. But it’s all gone very quiet on this since, and it seems to me there are huge hurdles to the consoles delivering on all but the smallest of their 4K promises.)

I do agree with you Kayant that the displays are evolving faster then the raw power needed to push them. GPU's are at least a couple year's away from maxing out 4K gaming in my opinion.

I have to disagree with
4. Simply put current-gen console are not outdated in terms of 4K content.

In my opinion a gaming console's primary purpose in life is GAMING. If it can not game at native 4K then it is in fact outdated in terms of 4K.

Im not saying the PS4 or XONE are outdated for the average user like myself who games at 1080p as I think they are awesome machines. But they are not 4K gaming machines.

[Christopher]

***In my opinion a gaming console's primary purpose in life is GAMING. If it can not game at native 4K then it is in fact outdated in terms of 4K. ***

I think he isn't saying that they can run games at native 4k and therefore are not outdated. But, that the argument of needing to play at 4k is unnecessary and therefore not a topic that would be considered for determining if the console is outdated.

[Minute Man 721]

They have 4K 3D tvs for $2,500. If I didn't buy a regular 3D tv 2 years ago ($1,099) I would have picked up a 4K tv already. In 2 years time I should have a 4K tv, gotta start house shopping first

[Neonridr]

so is a car as soon as you drive it off the lot. Or a PC after you boot it up.

How is this news?

[Grindlefly]

so NOTHING makes him laugh more than the ongoing obsession with the Xbox One’s difficulties rendering games at a full 1080p resolution?

NOTHING? REALLY?????

[fonger08]

I feel like author could have left the entire part about either the xbox or the PlayStation being outdated and made a decent argument/article about how 4k tv's really selling better than expected. It seems like a cheap shot to even bring in the topic of outdated consoles, if the author didn't know gamers play games for fun and entertainment, not just for resolution.

[marioJP87]

They were released out of date!

[Spotie]

Just like every other piece of tech ever.

Which makes the statement pointless.

[lonelyplayer]

and PC is underutilized, nothing new here.

[TheObserver]

So is my $2000 PC. Seriously, its ~$2000 grand in total.

Strange thing is I mostly find myself playing indie games that can run on a toaster nowadays. Like FTL.

[colonel179]

Who cares? The important thing are the games! Play the games and have fun! or if you like, just stare at your ultra powerful GPU from the future and do nothing with it.

MS and Sony will not release their games on PC, so it's useless to have the best computer on the universe. Third party developers, prioritizes consoles too, so it's not like they will release a game that can't absolutely be done on consoles.

If someone makes a game which could be played at 4K resolution that you need a super computer from NASA to run it, well, the one person that could afford it, hopefully has fun.

[XtraTrstrL]

Dumb article, they aren't out of date because they don't compare to a 2x-4x Titan PC. It's a stupid click-bait article.

[cyclindk]

Nope, they are pretty much the newest consoles you can get from major console developers. Ohhhhhh you mean in general the way all hardware is going "out of date" constantly with every damn second that passes.... right gotcha.

[Freeball]

We barely have 1080p content available for TV, 4K is at least 5 years away judging by general adoption rates, so plenty of time for the PS4 and XB1 to have their day.

[OB1Biker]

Just reading the first sentence 'Nothing makes me laugh more...' and I dont feel like reading further if the guy cant think of anything more fun on Earth XD

[jollygoodchap8]

The title of the article is just asking for fanboys to say the typical...

"Spend thousands every month!" "You're hunched over a small screen while I lie back on my couch" "PC has no games!" "consoles are way more powerful cus of optimization"

Gotta love how the first couple guys assume its a pc master race article right away.

The article is about 4K tvs.

[Malice-Flare]

nvm, Forbes 'contributor'...

seriously, 4K? you don't need a PC to run 4K video content which is what that marketing BS is for...

[ape007]

with all honesty ps4 and X1 should've been 100$ more, they feel a bit under powered

with all the downgrades (KZ, Forza 5, WD) and all the res problems, can't run @ 60 FPS

doing all games in 1080p shouldn't be a debate plus their weak CPUs will also impact their already underpowered GPUs

[Haru]

I don't think 100 bucks plus would make any big difference in terms of hardware maybe a little faste CPU and a tad more powerful GPU

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

$50 cpu vs a $150 cpu there can be a huge difference. AMD cpus tend to not be as good as newer intel cpus either just cheaper.

[DragoonsScaleLegends]

Hopefully it means that we get a new console every 5 years instead of the long 7-8 years of the previous gen. Backwards compatibility should be there with the next cycle too since they are using x86 architecture and hopefully the same in the next also.

[tee_bag242]

This.
I'd happily pay $500-800 for a console that can get the job done at 60fps.
They skimped out on everything execpt RAM this gen.

[GamingTruth]

unfortunately theres no other platform versions of those games to compare those exclusives against so thats a moot point

[Artemidorus]

4K is the PCs weapon of choice. As they slowly progress, the graphics will improve with 4K.

Consoles will continue on 1080p which is fine now but give it a couple of years and N4GSONY.com will have fanboys defending 1080p.

[hiawa23]

If they are out of date, so what, it is all we got as far as consoles go, and neither is releasing new in the next few years, so devs will have to work with that or just make pc games. The consoles are fine as far as I am concerned. The masses are not buying 4K sets anytime soon. 3D anyone..

[Sir_Simba]

These articles are also out of date, this comment too

[Dirkster_Dude]

The problem is making a console that is truly next gen, but can be affordable to millions of possible users. That is the 1 thing this dude isn't considering. Sure a bunch of people will have buyers remorse, but I doubt the majority of those 10 million PS4 owners or 5 million XB1 owners could afford a console that could push a 4k video game. The 1 true advantage they have is price. I think the last PC build cost at least $384.00 (USD), but like all the others where is the operating system? The games will not work without one so it is a requirement and that will cost an additional $70-$100 (USD). And no, a free Linux isn't a serious competitor in this area.

[CerealKiller]

This could of been said for every console ever released. Stop looking at the numbers on paper and look at the amazing quality of the games.

[Ghost_Nappa]

Real gamers buy systems because they enjoy the games it offers, so you can quit waving your pc d*ck around.

[Illusive_Man]

No. Xbox One gets updated regularly. DX12 comes in 2015. Windows PC is getting Win9 in 2015 and DX12.

So no, only Sony is outdated.

[DeadlyOreo]

What a load of rubbish. You keep telling yourself that.

Oh don't forget about the cloud lol.

[CerealKiller]

I forgot that you can increase hardware specs with a update.

[DragonbornZ]

My $700 laptop I got a couple weeks ago is outdated. More powerful than both consoles, not hitting max settings or anything but I'm still loving it.

The X1 and PS4 are pushin out beautiful games like Forza Horizons 2 and Driveclub. Although I woulda liked a 7950 in the consoles, that's not what it's all about. Optimization, utilization, talented devs, etc, etcccc. The consoles are good.

[Mrveryodd]

I don't know a single person that has a 4k TV and they are not buying one anytime soon .

[traumadisaster]

I've Been at 4k for over a year and a half. Gtx titan has been out for 2 YEARS. I laughed when the consoles came out. I like tech and bought them but wiish they would have continued the trend of consoles being bleeding edge.

[tee_bag242]

I know. Last gen were powerhouses. This gen we got crappy AMD 1.6ghz bargain basement chips paired with 2 year old 7970m mobile GPU's.

[Inception]

Sigh...i can't believe i've seen this kind of article from big name such as forbes. Obviously they can hired a good contributor AND editor before approving this crappy article.

[Macdaddy71]

I disagree most gamers could careless bout 4k, I don't care at all....I looked at the cheap crap $499.00 50" 4k n bought the $599.00 lg over it, 4k might be great on the high end right now, but a high end hd led oled tv blows the low end 4ks away... So no we are not close to 4k yet MS n Sony knows this,...
At GameStop they have a LG hdtv hookup up to there X1 that MS gave them, and OMG it's awesome, i wrote down the model number so I could buy that tv n we can not buy that type tv from lg....
I hope all the gamers know how full of crap you are cause we are a good 5 years plus before 4k takes over our living rooms

[PiNkFaIrYbOi]

This article is so stupid.

[Gore-Content]

Oh, forbes, oh god dude....... To be fair though, they mention xbawks as well.

[rapidturtle]

Do television providers even have programming in 4K? What can we watch in 4k?

[GeofferyPeterson]

The problem with this website is that people are addicted to stories that will get the most heat. Example: Clickbait. I would never ever do such a thing. Shame on you heat hogs.

[mysteryraz11]

4k is to expensive to put in consoles right now its that simple plus no 4k tv content right now even high end pcs struggle with 4k,so unless you expect 1000 dollar and above consoles, be happy what you get even expensive high end pcs are out of date, everything is these consoles were designed for a 5 year generation this time around so bye the time 4k is cheap the next consoles will have it, pc elitists feel desperate so they bring up pcs multiple times the price to make themselves feel better, these consoles are strong enough with stuff like the order and uncharted 4 running on the ps4 and ryse and quantum break they are sufficent enough right now

[tee_bag242]

If your happy with your PS4 that's fine. Just don't keep bashing WiiU and X1 for being underpowered like I always see you doing and then sooking about PC enthusiasts putting you in your place. Double standards.

Seriously look at your history of trolling and 1 bubble to back it up.
If people are happy to spend more money for a more than efficient gaming experience its their choice. Have some maturity.

[GamingTruth]

putting who in there place? what place, when i look at place i look at what sony and microsoft could build if money wasnt an issue if that were so our place would be way over yours pc fan, and looking at exclusives on these two platforms our place is over yours anyway

[DARK_SOLDIER101]

according to nVidia next Gen console is : low and mid-range PC

[Kamikaze135]

They were outdated the moment they were announced. There is no way for consoles to keep up with PCs if companies want to keep them affordable. However, I couldn't care less. The console exclusives are what keep me hooked and I enjoy them.

[DarXyde]

I don't even care that my Wii U is weaker than the XBOX One and PlayStation 4. I don't even care that there are PCs that can run circles around my PS4.

Does it (PS4) feature 4K gaming?

No.

Is it 1080p?

Most likely.

Is it HD?

Yes.

Will I miss any exclusives by not building a PC?

If so, I haven't heard of it, thus no interest.

Will I miss any exclusives by not having a console?

Absolutely, especially ones I care about.

Do I care so much about graphics that I can't enjoy a game unless it's bleeding edge?

No.

Does it run just fine and is it still beautiful?

Yes, both my PlayStation 4 and Wii U.

Do I need a gaming rig?

Doesn't sound like it.

Do I want one?

Couldn't hurt to have one.

Will I throw down for a rig?

No.

Do I care if the PS4 and XBOX One are "already out of date"?

No.

[Dogswithguns]

So does everything else... dammm

[TardcoreGamer]

"The bottom line is that Microsoft and Sony got so caught up in the race to be first to market with a ‘next generation’ console that they failed to actually deliver a truly next generation console."

Although I don't buy his 4K argument. I do agree that both companies rushed their consoles to market too quickly in spite of each other, delivering machines that don't render a standard 1080p/60fps consistently and didn't come equipped with the standard the features their former iterations have.

A rare instance where competition did a disservice to consumers.

[Paprika]

Most games are made for consoles, with PC's capable of the ultimate experience, and further mods. Console devs can optimise games using old hardware for years to come to create stunning visuals still. The hardware on paper is not the full story, ps4 might be out of date in terms of tech, but there is plenty of potential left there, devs are saying just that too.

[colony]

zZz

[Tzuno]

the weak point of consoles is the CPU, 8 lame amd cores at low freq that are beaten even by a i3. Goodbye

[CertifiedGamer]

The genius in this article thinks Sony the PS4 and X1 is obsolete for aiming for 1080p over 4K. Someone needs to tell him that 4K is a temporary resolution which is going obsolete thanks to 8K. 8K will be the resolution to mainstream resolution like 1080p currently and 4K will be the substream like 720p currently is. So this genius wanted console developers to invest in substream.

[hamzilla]

People that make crap like this article deadbeat are just posting garbage for attention. Can't people just enjoy what they are giving us. What if they made the systems for double the price would it have gone like it has? I don't think so.

and yes you are very correct. just like when 720p HDTVs came out before 1080p was fully implimented this just like that. so best to wait till 8K is truly ready. next gen perhaps when costs for 320GB ram and 256GB GPUs are down ;) ;)

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

author is a moron lolz 4k res doesn't mean anything if developers aren't making the games at that native output. look how long it took for them to start making 1080p the standard. i don't own a 4k tv and don't plan on buying one anytime soon, regardless of how cheap they might be(and everyone knows it's not as simple as a $400 4k tv being as good as a $2000+ 4k tv). i'd rather play my console games at their native outputs rather than trying to upscale them and have them look all f*cked up. if a game looks good, then it looks good.

[hamzilla]

^^^ This person knows it! 1000000 agrees to you! just like you said in order for the game to look right at 4K it has to have 4K textures built from scratch cant just magically take something meant for 1920x1080 res and make it 4K by setting up a new resolution... remember 720p stretching to 1080p that ugly blur effect it game them. think of that right!

[Clunkyd]

I dont know about you guys, but I'm waiting for 4K OLED tvs.

[voltron420170]

I've said it before and I'll say it again.. This gen is going to be very, very short... Maybe 4-5 years max.. BOTH companies skimped on hardware and it's already starting to show not even a year in w/ x1 and ps4.. When the 360 and PS3 released they were AHEAD of the best PC GPU's on the market by a considerable margin.. Now we have hardware that is not even upto mid-level PC specs from two years ago..

[kryteris]

the 360 was on par, the ps3 had to compete w/ 8800. /fail.

[GamingTruth]

so much crap of ignorance and false crap in your paragraph kid

[kryteris]

2011 mid range tech, and it is now 2014.

[GamingTruth]

and the sad thing is in 2014 we cant on the latest hardware on pc replicate driveclub and order 1886 and quantum break on

[hamzilla]

To all the deadbeats saying that all PC games are 4K they are not. in order for a game to legit look 4K it just doesnt need to have it render at that resolution it needs to be also using 4K textures to look right. taking something that was meant for 1080p and then making it stretch to 4K may make thing sharper but also the textures then will look worse then better overall. Remember 720p streached to 1080p and how that looked... think about that then. so all this 4K rage aint worth it. whoever spends the coin to jump on the early 4K bandwagon is a deadbeat buttmunch

[Flames76]

Haha pc kiddies in their parents basements are so funny.Dont get me wrong i build them love em but would never game on them.Nothing to play hate mouse and keyboard for games.Plus could never beat Xbox live its hands down the best online gaming service it is

[ATi_Elite]

Great article.

Speaking strictly from a hardware performance standpoint stepping from x360 and ps3 to xb1 Ps4 and knowing that 4k was coming....

True the current gen consoles are garbage

Xb1 cant even do 1080p just like x360 struggled to do 720p last gen. Why does MS so underpower their consoles.

PS4 can handle 1080p but at a cost to really making some high quality next gen games as all the power is depleted to maintain 1080p at a solid framerate. So when a true next gen game is made like BF4 or TW3 the PS4 has to drop down to 900p

So as games become more complex along with increased AI and advanced physics ae used both systems will fail to reach 1080p while 4K TVs become doorbuster deals at big box stores

4K is here and its momentum has increased rapidly but this gen has no chance of outputting 4k games unless its something super simple as pac man 4k

Putting 4k aside this gen hardware is so underpowered that they are pushing REMASTERED GAMING more than true NEXT GEN GAMING and YOU ALL know this is true because so far BF4 TW3 are the only titles so far to use all the up to date features on a large scale.

But this is the sacrifice you have to make with console gaming when you have to provide value at a strict dollar amount within a certain power range.

I think 4 GB ram paired with an older gen but high powered 2 or 4 core cpu mated with a more powerful and capable Gpu would of been better than buying AMD hyped up APU and trying to dazzle us with 8gb ram

Core i7 920 4gb ram gtx660 in mobile format of course will smoke current gen hardware allow for easy 1080p gaming and truly allow devs to make REAL NEXT GEN games instead of remastering last gen games that all failed to reach 1080p when MS Sony promised HD gaming.

Now would this setup achieve 4k it sure would in a limited amount of games but it also would allow for 1080p games to run smoothly on 4k screens so if sony and ms were gonna use OLD HARDWARE they should have used top of the line OLDER hardware that could give gamers 4k and real next gen gaming.

Now as far as real 4k next gaming is concerned thats where the PC steps in as it allows you to stay ahead of the curve and use BLEEDING EDGE TECH today not 3 hardware generations later.

Ive been 4k gaming since January 2014 and the difference from 1080 1200 1440 and even 1600p is HUGE.

But yes that comes at a cost but i provided a system using a mix of old and new parts that can achieve 4k and be mass produced for around $500 as the only really expensive part would be the gtx660 gpu as the core i7 920 is old but very capable and 4gb gddr5 is cheaper than 8. Sure 8gb ram is sweet but 4gb is still very capable

So yes Hardware wise Sony MS could of done better because 4k tvs are here and games like BF4 TW3 are really next gen and current gen hardware struggles with these games.

So yes hardware wise this gen is lame and this gen will be very short or nothing but remastered titles as Sony MS are so fixated with 1080 that they are persuading devs from making high calibre games with next gen gameplay but at 720p resolution

I choose gameplay over resolution anyday.

* PS4 XB1 are good products that will provide great entertainment value. This post was just to show a different approach to hardware that could allow for greater flexibility istead of holding gaming back

[DanBal76]

So, the PS4 and XO are already out of date? Ok, now tell me something i already don't know. Nevertheless, they are great systems, with tons of great games coming through their life cycles. And, although they are not as capable as a high end PC in the graphics department, i'm pretty satisfied with i've seen from them until now. So, the bottom line is: i couldn't care less that they are already out of date.

[GamingTruth]

in what graphics department