Dealspwn writes: As gamers, we really hope VR takes off. Oculus Rift has impressed us since we first put the virtual reality headset on and back in March, Sony announced Project Morpheus, their own brand of VR headset that would let PS4 gamers to get involved. Which, speaking as a non PC gamer, was music to my ears as I was getting dangerously close to investing in a rig so I could play with an Oculus Rift.
But is Project Morpheus doomed to follow the disturbing pattern Sony has dragged itself through over the last few years? The main PlayStation consoles have been huge successes of course; I’m talking about the state of affairs for the PS Move controllers and the PS Vita.
A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.
I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.
I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons
I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.
Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.
Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.
At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath
I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.
Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.
This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.
cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me
Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.
Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.
The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.
@car
The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans
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@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.
@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.
Cacabunga
Helldivers 2...
Redemption-64
In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.
So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.
@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.
@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.
True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.
I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.
Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.
Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.
Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.
Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.
I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.
Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.
I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.
Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?
GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.
I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.
Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.
Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.
They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.
Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.
You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.
700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out
Christopher
I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.
There are tons of live service games that are profitable.
Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.
I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.
Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.
I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.
Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.
I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.
And Im a single player gamer.
How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.
Whilst its a great article it doesnt need to have a clickbait title with things like it's doomed , its dead ahhhhhh . So anyway how about we let morpheus out first before we judge it and if it is mindblowing like you said in another article and a fantastic piece of hardware then it could see a major support unlike the kinect because it was broken and so bad . I cant believe i bought it and please xbox fans do not justify the purchase of the kinect on the x360 because it downright sucked . The psvita really needs support from Sony but since they are concentrating on the ps4 then i doubt we will see any support soon . Maybe after a couple of AAA games hits the Ps4 then we might see support from them . I hope ...
The Vita is dead?
Sony let the Move die?
Is that why it's compatible with PS4, and with many of the new Project Morpheus demos, and setup to be one of the main control schemes for VR games going forward? I'd argue that there's more game-related stuff happening with Move than there is with Kinect at this moment in time, and that peripheral certainly isn't dead.
Concerning the Vita… it still gets tons of great games on a weekly basis and has loads of exclusives still to come out this year and next. I agree that it needs more direct AAA support from Sony, but it's a wonderful portable.
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@ bobthebo
Well, just because you can't be bothered, doesn't mean Vita has only 3 games that are coming in the next 4 years. That's absurd. "Being excited" about certain games is completed opinionated too. This is a more realistic version of Vita releases for the next 12-18 months and just an example of the kind of obfuscation that happens when people say that "Vita has no games":
Hotaru no Nikki (Firefly's Diary), Oreshika: Tainted Bloodlines, Danganronpa 2, Tales of Hearts R, Toukiden Extreme, Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment, Gravity Rush 2, Murasaki Baby, Akiba's Trip, Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus, Freedom Wars.
Hotline Miami 2, Helldivers, Grim Fandango, Velocity 2X, Axiom Verge, Teslagrad, Rainbow Skies, Assault Android Cactus, Volume. None of these games are available for mobile, OR homogenous in any regard, and they add diversity to a platform's lineup whatever platform it is.
So nothing I said was false. Just because you don't like Japanese games or indie games doesn't mean it doesn't have lots to potentially look forward to depending on who you are as a gamer. I did mention that Sony need to support it more with AAA games, so it's not like I'm giving them a free pass. It just so happens that it has lots of unique content to look forward to.
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@ gamerfan0909
What am I talking about? Well I didn't mention that PS4 has released games with PS Move compatibility. This article is as much about PS Move as it is Morpheus. By "test games" I think you mean "tech demos".
At every event, Sony has had Morpheus demos that use PS Move, and they work well and have received great feedback, so obviously they will be used in future game releases and it will be one of the primary inputs of Morpheus VR games. No need to get sensitive when we've already had confirmation of Move being used in a Morpheus game setup.
Morpheus is a still born.
gimicky things sell not because of what they can do but because of the fantasies people have in their head about what they can do.... Wii, people have crazy fantasies about motion contorlled ligthsaber battles and stuff like that so it sells, Kinect, people have crazy fantasies about being able to do it like Tony Stark so it sells.... Move, people know exactly what it is, a more precise Wii, doesn't sell, Kinect 2.0, people know exactly what it is, just a bit more precise Kinect, doesn't sell......
VR is still backed my fantasy so it'll sell