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PS4 Sold 10 Million Thanks to Hype, Not Performance

Sony wonders why it sold 10 million PlayStation 4 units worldwide. It’s clear to us: That amount was sold due to positive word-of-mouth, plain and simple.

ape0073534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

well to be honest, they got an amazing first impression at E3, they literately kicked butt at the show

......but is the 5 million gap between X1 and ps4 reflect the reality of quality between the two systems?? no way, that just show you the importance of nailing first impression

i used to say first impression stuff is BS but psychologists are right

i expect Xbox one sales to get a major boost this year due to more exclusives and the master chief collection

xHeavYx3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

The denial is strong with some fanboys. The PS4 is an amazing system that focuses primarily on games, hence why it's more powerful. Microsoft decided to make a home entertainment system instead of a home console, what gamers prefer is obvious.

Also, this article says that, according to Metacritic, the best next gen title is Titanfall, even though it's on the 360 and PC, but what about that not very well known game called The Last of Us, sitting at 95?
He even says that InFamous Second Son "didn’t fare quite so well with critics". I guess having a Metascore of 80 is a bad thing to this "journalist"
One does not sell 5M more consoles by hype alone.

@Lightning's "PS4 has no games"
It has 40 more games than the One
http://www.listwar.com/rele...

@future "but but but, most of those games are Indies"
Take the indies away and the PS4 still has more games

creatchee3534d ago

@xHeavYx

"One does not sell 5M more consoles by hype alone."

The Wii would like to have a word with you.

Lightning Mr Bubbles3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

I don't think it's just hype. Bottom line is people have to choose between XBOX One and PS4, and I guess more people are choosing PS4.

The way things are looking, with that great controller and all it's great first party exclusives and everything in development for the console, it was the right choice.

Plus the Playstation brand is trusted, it's been delivering the goods for a lot of years, so it's a known brand all over the world. Not just the US.

If you're smart, you look at these things and make a choice.

ape0073534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

"The PS4 is an amazing system that focuses primarily on games"

LoL both system focus on games, titanfall in my humble opinion is the best console nextgen game(if u consider it nextgen game) so far on both platforms

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360ICE3534d ago

@Lightning Mr Bubbles

It actually has tons of games. Sure, games like Watch Dogs, Call of Duty and Battlefield 4 are multiplatform, but then again, PS4 has been the cheapest option for those who want to buy these games on a next gen console.

I think price and timing has been everything in the beginning. Yet, judging by the libraries one wouldn't think there was a whole year's difference between PS4 and Wii U.

Gamingcapacity3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

But don't you get "positive word-of-mouth" by being a good product??

Hype is usually generated by the companies of a product and both companies have tried to generate their own hype.

Let's not forget that the PS4 also launched at a lower price and the PS3 has been outselling the 360 worldwide since launch. The Playstation is a stronger brand worldwide than Xbox.

Hype helps but Sony created its own advantages.

GarrusVakarian3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

Oh, the things that people tell themselves to feel better about their purchases.....

I mean, it has nothing to do with 20 years of the PS brand that many people grew up with, the tons of amazing exclusives on the PS3, the better looking and running games, the fact it's more powerful, the PS-exclusive developers, PS-plus value, or the better price point.

No no, nothing to do with those. It's purely because of hype! Hype is the sole reason why people are going out and spending hundreds of $£ of their hard-earned money on PS4's.

http://myreactiongifs.com/g...

GiggMan3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

Since this article mentions metacritic it fails to mention how more multiplats score higher on PS4 than their Xbox One counterparts.

Believe it or not multitplats exist and people want the best version. When it's all said and done, multiplats will make up the majority of most gaming libraries. If you could only afford one console you might as well get the one with the best multiplat versions. This could have a lot to do with the sales gap more than exclusives.

@Creach I agree about the Wii selling because of hype but I think it had a lot to do with price as well. Along with those newfangled motion controls.

ABizzel13534d ago

This is just sad, and when the author compared the XBO to the PS4 you instantly opened yourself to be labeled a troll and bias.

Hype is one of the reasons the PS4 is selling so well, but more importantly the evidence also points to it's current sale because of:

1. Launch Reveals: The PS4

2. Price to Performance: The PS4

3. Consistency / Potential / Future: The PS4

It's that simple. MS basically gave Sony a good portion of their gaming audience and a free ride for the first few years. The DRM fiasco, the always online mess, the horrible console reveal, the poor treatment of fans looking for answers by people in charge, and the utter confusion going on within MS caused their own media backlash which put them at a disadvantage they've been fighting so far this entire generation.

Then the PS4 was discovered to be more powerful and cost less, and even today is the same price, but still more powerful means that multiplatform gamers are generally better off getting the PS4. This was the main advantage MS had early last gen, and one of the main reasons it stayed ahead of the PS3 as long as it did (the other being the 1 year head start).

The PS3 had a good ride all generation long, the 360 has been dead the last couple/few years (just now getting "port" support). The PS3 has won several GOTY awards with Sony producing some of the best games of the last generation, that same expectation is there for the PS4. The PS4 demoed some gaming changing hopes and policies like PSNow and PlayShare, those features are being implemented.

MS lost all of its advantages this generation, beside money bagging, and nearly offed their own brand and consumer trust. What do you think was going to happen? People flocked to Sony and the PS4 in droves, and I've even seen more people looking to buy pre-made PCs, until MS gets their act together.

The PS3 pretty much outsold the 360 globally ever year since it's launch, which is why it was able to catch and break the 1 year sales headstart the Xbox 360 had. If the PS brand at it's worse can still comeback and beat the Xbox brand at its best, what do you think is going to happen when the roles are reversed.

The PS4 was going to sell well regardless, but MS practically told gamers to go out and buy the PS4 first, considering all the shenanigans they pulled.

The XBO is a good console, don't get that wrong, and don't let anyone tell you different. But the companies behind the two couldn't be any different.

FriedGoat3534d ago

The PS4 is actually the first console I have bought at launch that I haven't got bored with, that says something. They managed to get enough to keep me entertained and I drop games like nobodies business.

denawayne3534d ago

Ha, looks like someone else agrees with me. I wrote this in another article about 2 weeks ago -

"I've said it before and I'll say it again. The PS4 is selling like hotcakes because of pure hype. There is nothing that separates the two systems put raw power. If raw power is what people are looking for then why don't they go the PC route? It's been almost a year since the systems were released and I've yet to see why the PS4 is so musc better than the Xbox One. Games for both systems are lacking at the moment. And if you ask me, I would argue that the Xbox One has the better, more unique features. I'm not saying everybody should have bought the Xbox One but I do believe a lot of PS4's sales were do to one big flock of sheep."

andibandit3534d ago

@Lucas

"I mean, it has nothing to do with 20 years of the PS brand that many people grew up with, the tons of amazing exclusives on the PS3, the better looking and running games, the fact it's more powerful, the PS-exclusive developers, PS-plus value, or the better price point."

I dont know where you were at the start of last generation, must've been in denial land.

NewMonday3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

people were feed up with a long PS3/360 gen and couldn't wait for the new generation, Sony were doing great with the community after learning from the harsh lessons of the PS3 era, and then a perfect storm happened when both MS and Nintendo messed up big time leaving PS4 as the best option in the eyes of most.

Dynasty20213534d ago

1080p and 30 FPS in 2014 isn't exactly amazing.

SilentNegotiator3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

"The Wii would like to have a word with you"

Would people stop with the Wii comparisons already? Wii's success was 90% thanks to the fact that it appealed to people who never play VG otherwise. It's not the same situation as ANY other console ever.

As for this "Ps4 is only selling because of hype" crap...if Ps4 is less deserving of sales, where's the hype for Xbone/WiiU then?

Boody-Bandit3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

Actually this article couldn't possibly be further removed from reality.

Performance is a huge reason why Sony is ahead and hype has next to nothing to do with it. How can anyone with a shred of common sense bring hype into a discussion involving the gaming industry and put Sony ahead of MS? Nobody spends more money on marketing than MS. Nobody talks to the press more than MS. Seriously, how can you use hype at all?

This article screams attention / pure absurdity. Sony is ahead because they built a developer friendly powerful system with a consumer friendly approach and launched it -$100 less than their main competitor that used the opposite approach entering this generation.

Sony has consumer confidence and a plethora of top developers making award winning exclusives and new IPs every generation. They have a much better track record in the gamin industry than MS and they are currently out selling MS worldwide by nearly 3 to 1. They have an over 2 to 1 ration in units sold and the gap is widening week after week. That has nothing to do with hype.

And those bringing Nintendo into this with the Wii is beyond is like comparing apples to onions. The Wii got non gamers (soccer moms and the elderly. The Wii was a big hit in old folks homes. No joke. I'm being serious) to purchase their console and they had the best price point at the time the PS3, 360 and Wii were on the market.

Comparing last gen to this gen is meaningless. Every generation plays out differently. Well accept for the fact Sony is usually top dog. Unless MS starts practically given away XBOX ONE units that's not going to change.

Army_of_Darkness3534d ago

This author lost credibility once I read this line from his article:

"In fact, one could argue that Titanfall is the best exclusive piece of next-gen software to date"

Please. Only a fanboy would say that crap LOL! Titanfall of all games does not even come close to showing a good representation of next Gen gaming?! Fun? sure, next gen quality? hell no.

thisismyaccount3534d ago

10M consoles without a proper SS?! That´s bad or what? Who cares... we´re playing games that others (PC) wont ever see or get.

You get visuals like Forza 5 1080p60fps at under 100W systemload or how about these visuals :

http://giant.gfycat.com/Exc...

http://a.pomf.se/lawpma.gif

#DC and The Order on the PS4, 1080p, 30fps at 130W more or less. Can you say the same about your PC?

If anyone has AC4 for the PC and PS4, please do a comparison between the two, both system at similar consumption levels (<150W), dont think the PC can handle that...

Why o why3534d ago

To the people who are acting like simpletons.......

If the ps4 is doing this much better than its competitors with hype alone.......what the eff is going to happen when the heavy hitters and true performance arrives...... lmao.... more pain and excuses from the simple.

DragonKnight3534d ago

Most of the comments replying to people like ape and the article's author could have been summarized with this alone.

https://farm4.staticflickr....

Hype would have sold 5 million for sure, but not 10 million.

Potnoodle9993534d ago

@RATEDAFORADULT nothing new there then, consoles have always been really weak from the start compared to PC.....and guess what??
Oh that's right, it's never stopped them from being unbelievably awesome haha
Go away and stop trolling loser...

fr0sty3534d ago

@dynasty, that depends on what quality visuals are being rendered at that resolution and frame rate. Visuals like Driveclub at 1080p30, yes, amazing. Visuals like mario 64 at 1080p30, not so much. 1080p or 30fps is not a benchmark for visual quality, it is nothing more than the resolution the images are drawn at and how often. Those frames could be simple, blocky PS1 graphics being drawn at that res/rate, or they could borderline being lifelike.

I've had my jaw dropped enough times by my cheap lil' PS4 to justify my purchase, and that's just what I've already played on it. P.T.'s visuals are stunning. Infamous is quite a looker too. Killzone wasn't a bad launch title. Looking ahead, I only see the visuals improving, so I'm not complaining.

ikkokucrisis3534d ago

Come to think of it,

this would be the first time the most powerful console actually sold more units than its counterparts...

DarXyde3533d ago (Edited 3533d ago )

@creatchee

Debatable. The Wii took a very different direction from its [very similar] competitors and actually appealed to hardcore and casual gamers alike. Thus, it had a more accessible market.

Like the PlayStation 4, you'll never know how much of it was hype.

maddskull3533d ago

@ape007 if your taking about hype then titanfall is the most overrated and over hyped game ever. people bought it played it for a month then they never touch the game ever. titanfall isn't the best next gen game there are many games that are better the remaster of the last of us is better than titanfall.

gfk3423533d ago (Edited 3533d ago )

What are you talking? It's not like the 10 million consoles were sold in the day of the release!

So only (partly) the consoles sold in the first 1 months could have been sold based on the first impression.

After that is solely based on how the console manages to convince the customers through games, power, aspect, quality, price.

I know a lot of people that didn't buy any console and they want to buy a PS4 not for the "first impression" but solely on PS4's qualities. The fact that is slimmer, has a better design, better specs, games that are on their theist (I'm from EU) are sufficient reasons to make them buy the PS4.

This does not have to do with the "first impression".

In my opinion the Xone was the one that was bought with the hype of voice commands (only with Kinect), all in one console! And now what do you have Xone fanboys, a console without Kinect that cannot do voice commands and no longer an all in one console!

In fact the Xone is now a more weaker (40% weaker 1.84 vs 1.31 tflops) and a more uglier PS4.

So why do you bash the Ps$?

frenchtoast3533d ago

@Lukas - You nailed it

@andibandit - I don't now what you read, but it seems like you didn't get the point of his post. EVEN last generation, Sony had a HELL of a lot going for them compared to MS. They had a successful platform in the PS2 (considered one of if not the best console of all time), they had supported the PS1 for 10 years already, and were on their way to supporting PS2 for the same amount. They had significantly more and better exclusives on their previous platforms. All this would have helped the PS3 sell (which it did, of course price was an issue, which is why it wasn't as popular as PS4 is now).

In comparison, the only real exclusives Xbox had was Halo and Perfect Dark, and they gave up on their console after 3 years. With Xbox 360, for the past 4 years, there were no decent exclusive games available for the system, yet Sony has supported PS3 with games like Last Of Us, and Beyond Two Souls. Then there was the RROD fiasco (2 of my 360s died and I had to buy a third). Things like this stick in people's minds which is why the brand matters. If you damage the brand, your products won't sell as well, and that is what MS did with Xbox One announcement.

XB1_PS43533d ago

The AAA exclusives are shit at the moment. I'll buy a PS4 when they have something other than Infamous that's worth playing.

Lifendz3533d ago

Hype, not performance? If I find 20 bucks on the street I have 20 bucks thanks to luck, but does that matter? I have the money and could care less. Just wait till the games start coming in steadily. MS is done.

chrismichaels043533d ago (Edited 3533d ago )

Bitter fanboys speak loud....but real gamers' wallets speak loudest.

Xbox fans are hurting right now over the massive sales gap currently between the PS4 and X1, so now they have resorted to bashing the PS4 to make themselves feel better. Its quite sad really. At the end of the day, the PS4's success speaks for itself.

lfc_4eva3533d ago

@Heavy

I think its a little unfair to label people as fanboys just because they have a different point of view to your own.

You clearly enjoy Playstation and that is totally fine. You can praise it's virtues and again that's totally fine.

Just remember this forum of views is meant to wide ranging so you really should be more accepting.

kreate3533d ago

I did not know ps4 had hype.
I just thought ps4 sold well cuz Microsoft screwed up the birth of x1.

Xb1ps43533d ago

i have to agree the denial is very strong around here.. you go on to saythat the ps4 is a amazing system, while i think its a great system, what has made itso amazing since launch? the specs that hasnt proved its 50% more powerful?

im sorry but the "entertainment" side of the xb1 is what has won over my living room with the hdmi pass and the xbox on and it turns my tv stereo and cable box on.

is the snap feature not gaming related? how many of you put down the controler to serch the web for some help in a game... how bout the suspend feature for the games.. the bs is strong with you that the ps4 primary focus is games as if the xb1 doesnt hav gam features that leave you wondering why the ps4 cant do it..

ps4 sold by hype plain and simple all they had to do was say 399 and a video on how to share gams.. think about it you are arguing on who has the most games! lmao.. considering that sony owns more studios than ms and nin combined yet every year by the end they all have just about the same amount of exclusives, go figure..

and i dont count indies as a on up either cause if indies are so great the vita would be doing much better.

UltimateMaster3533d ago

If it's all about hype. Then shouldn't Xbox marketing strategy of commercial adds work?

Kaneda3533d ago

PS2 vs Xbox - PS fanboys - we got more exclusive games. Xbox - we got more quality games.

PS3 vs Xbox 360 - PS fanboys - We got home entertainment system and quality 1st party games. Xbox 360 - We got more exclusive games (early stage of Xbox 360 life)

PS4 vs Xbox One - PS fanboys - We got game system, who cares about home entertainment system. Xbox One - We got home entertainment system with exclusive games..

and cycle will continue...

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HeWhoWalks3534d ago

More exclusives? Sunset Overdrive & The MCC. Merely ONE more than PS4 (that's not also on PS3). If I've missed one, tell me, but the exclusives will do little to nothing to the PS4's lead. Hell, Destiny will do more than any exclusive this year, and we already know who's gonna benefit more there.

OT: Shame that we have articles like these, when I don't recall this type of smashing of the Wii last gen (though in fairness, neither system sold off hype, alone).

Prime1573534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

Do Ryse and DR3 count as exclusives now? How about Titanfall?

If any of those count as exclusives then PS4 can count games like Warframe, blacklight, DCUO, Planetside 2, Don't starve, outlast,... well, I know there are a ton more, but that's just a quick list.

True console only exclusives vs brand exclusives vs PC has em, but the other doesn't exclusives.

Wish I had more time or I'd make that list. However, that doesn't pay my bills.

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gootimes3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

I agree that it has some to do with hype, but I think Sony has also proven to bring amazing first party games and support their consoles long term. People understand the quality of Sony studios and consoles I think and are willing to buy a product that will be supported by their first party studios long term with arguably the best quality first party games.

Also people understand that as far as third party games you can't go wrong with the PS4, while the X1 could be a bit off on performance or res on certain games...

People also see the way Sony treats indie studios, and in turn garners support from those talented and creative devs. And I think people see Microsoft has having the same attitude as much of their fan base has in that indies are "not good games" and indie devs are not as good either, and just a nuisance. People see that as PS4 having the upper hand in that area as well, due to respect for ALL devs.

I am not knocking the X1, I think it has it's benefits as well, but I think people leaning towards the PS4 and it is not based off of hype alone. Also the PlayStation brand has been around much longer and has a fan base that knows Sony supports their fans and consoles. While Microsoft has a history of indecisiveness, money hatting, anti consumer policies, and poor game support through consoles later life.

Aceman183533d ago

I see I got marked for trolling just for stating it has sold well because most wanted in on next gen and the fact that most trust that Sony will deliver the games Like they always do.

Some ppl on this site have some seriously deep rooted issues if that found that trolling lol.

Genki3534d ago

"Literately" eh...

I guess the term 'literal' doesn't mean what it's supposed to anymore.

showtimefolks3534d ago

PS brand is in business much longer so more people are aware of it, sony did an amazing job revealing the console than at e3. Since than IMO sony has done an excellent job

by comparison MS did a bad job and now are catching up to sony, they are always 2nd. Its like sony announces something than MS say oh xbox one does it too

I thought under phil spencer but not really he has the same mindset as others and that's not to invest but instead buying timed exclusives

think about it some of sony's biggest studios are working on ps4 games and we don't know about them yet the console sold 10 million

what makes anyone think ps4 will slow down at anytime

also this has been said before many time, when MS had all the indie support we kept hearing from xbox fanboys that we have indies and now that sony has gone hard after indies its stupid/doesn't matter and these are not AAA games

give me a break, unless sony screws up big time and i do mean big time than MS is competing with wiiu for 2nd place. Neither Nintendo nor MS have any shot at #1

to some of you young ones this feels like ps2 all over again

Codewow3534d ago

Wow the amount of dislikes you received just proves to me that Gaming is a tainted hobby. Almost to comparable to politics.

medman3534d ago

Ape007
"i expect Xbox one sales to get a major boost this year due to more exclusives" hahahahahahhahahahahaha...than ks for the laughs, I needed that.

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colonel1793534d ago

It's just like the Wii, it has sold with pure hype. However, unlike the Wii, when all the hype dies, the PS4 will definitely have the games, performance and support to continue gaining sales.

The Wii died because once the hype was over, there was nothing else going for it.

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lifeisgamesok3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

Yes! This is what I've been explaining. The PS4 lineup doesn't warrant 10 million sales I'd say the Xbox One has been dominating as far as exclusives go

Sony has no answer for Halo, Sunset, and Horizon 2 this year and Titanfall is great

People are just now realizing that it won't be easy for Sony this gen like they thought

It will be a war and the PS4 is disappointing many with the lack of titles that aren't multiplat

Majin-vegeta3534d ago

The PS4 lineup doesn't warrant 10 million sales

Who the hell are you to dictate what warrants a PS4 sale??Apparently people are liking the games cuz well you know 10 mil consoles have been sold.

Eddie201013534d ago

It's your opinion but popular opinion says different.

You can spout the same old Sh8t day in and day out it doesn't make it fact. Just your opinion.

GW2123534d ago

Ps4 is better hardware and a better GAMING machine, pure and simple. MS took a risk and tried to become the all in one media console. Them dropping kinect shows that the risk failed. They can still come back but they are firmly behind right now and won't see any possibility of day light until at least 2016.

DarXyde3533d ago

This is an amusing post.

"Yes! This is what I've been explaining. The PS4 lineup doesn't warrant 10 million sales I'd say the Xbox One has been dominating as far as exclusives go "

This reeks of subjectivity. Next.

"Sony has no answer for Halo, Sunset, and Horizon 2 this year and Titanfall is great"

That's strange. When everyone was talking about Destiny, the XBOX die-hards were saying that Bungie as a development team have fallen off, mentioning that Halo has been the victim of a slippery descent into mediocrity, thus Bungie is has lost their magic. Here's the kicker--unless I'm mistaken, 343 Studios developed the most recent main entry in the series (Halo 4) who are developing Halo 5 for XBOX One. So how exactly is Halo NOW unmatched? There are reasons to believe that Destiny will be better than Halo 5 and the PlayStation 4 version seems to be regarded as the definitive version. Multiplatform perhaps, but your argument is that Sony has NOTHING to answer Halo with. I guess we'll see when the time comes and reviews are in. Not sales--Halo versus a new IP isn't exactly a fair assessment. Let's just see what the general consensus from users and media outlets are.

Sunset Overdrive is largely unproven. It could easily become monotonous. It's Insomniac so I'll have faith, but Fuse wasn't exactly their best work. Neither was Into the Nexus, sadly.

Forza Horizon 2, well, it depends on the racing experience you're looking for.

Sounds to me like you want Sony to just copy Microsoft and answer their franchises. No, Sony is actually one to take risks. Your lovely God Spencer even commended Sony for placing faith in franchises that aren't million sellers.

"People are just now realizing that it won't be easy for Sony this gen like they thought

It will be a war and the PS4 is disappointing many with the lack of titles that aren't multiplat"

XBOX One has a lot more to prove after their reveal debacle. Just about anything they do now is amazing by comparison. Also, contrary to popular belief, Sony has consistently announced more games with Microsoft opting to just go in-depth with games we've already known about with each successive conference. That can change at any time, but I want you to think about that. Don't worry about quality either; PlayStation 4 games have been better received and in larger quantities. How exactly is the PlayStation 4 a disappointment?

How did you EVER end up with one bubble? I wonder...

tlougotg3533d ago

lol are you %ucking kidding me? Sunset lol ppl hyping that up only bcus of the lack of games. Tlou remaster alone crushes anything you mention and its already out lol. You sound really hurt man take care of that plz.

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3-4-53534d ago

Good First impressions = lots of initial sales

From here on out though, good, fun games need to keep heading to PS4, for that lead to stay a lead.

BX813534d ago

I agree it has a lot to do with hype and e3, but the ps4 is an excellent system you can't deny that. So it's not only hype it's also the fact that Sony makes quality systems and has great games.

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Gantrfaxx3534d ago

And i wonder how many Millions did Xone sell thanks to unrealistic hype.

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garos823534d ago

This stuff is why Playstation will continue to dominate this generation.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

You can't possibly tell me PS4 doesn't bring anything new to the table.

Playstation is gonna kick ass this generation.

Mark my words

legionsoup3534d ago

Articles like this being approved are the reason this site is a joke.

I don't care which system you support, if you agree with it or disagree. When the mods here let pure flame bait hit their site, it's just kinda sad.

MazzingerZ3533d ago

Pointless getting both at launch so people get the one that so far looks the best investment for their hard earned cash, SONY has shown gameplay for many coming games while MSFT only CGI...just want to give the impresssion they are on par with SONY regarding 1st party games which we all now are not even close

HanzoHattori3533d ago

I don't even think Microsoft has sold through 5 million. What other reason do they have for not being forthcoming with current sales numbers other than disappointment?

sjaakiejj3533d ago

It's pretty simple really, PS4 is a more powerful system that was, since the first presentation, well received by the press and consumer due to their understanding of what gamers wanted.

Microsoft on the other hand slapped press and consumers alike in the face with their DRM ideas (that they later removed, but damage was already done), forced bundling of Kinect, high price point and clearly weaker visuals (e.g. resolution) than the competition.

Other than hardcore fans of the Xbox brand, the Xbox One just doesn't have a lot of appeal to the average consumer.

andibandit3533d ago

@frenchtoast

let me just illustrate what I meant

" it has nothing to do with 20 years of the PS brand that many people grew up with"

20 years that included the year 2006.....Sony went on stage at E3 and told the world "go get a second job to buy our 599$ ps3" and they topped it off by demoing a bunch of uninspiring games.

The following years were like echoes of 2006 and Im not even gonna go into details about it.

frostypants3533d ago

"they literately kicked butt at the show "

So they kicked butt by demonstrating keen reading skills?

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mezati993534d ago

that's right you just keep telling yourself that

iamnsuperman3534d ago (Edited 3534d ago )

I can see the reasoning but hype is a product of other reasons not a reasons in itself. The last generation went on for a long time which added to the hype for a next generation system but why the PS4 is unusual is because of careful planning and a correct price point. It is cheaper than the Xbox One and the third party issue of them, generally, performing better on the PS4 made hype. Then the launch went off with little to no issues which the Wii U and the One stumbled last year. These generated the hype and in particular for the PS4.

scark923534d ago

If people are regretting on buying a Next Gen Console and are complaining that there are no games, that is your fault on buying the system, you could have waited, simple as,
I know this gen is going to be great, some of my favorite games are getting sequels and new IP's are showing up, its an exciting time to be a gamer.
The games will come, compare last gen consoles Launch til now and you will see a great difference.

Eonjay3534d ago

It is not that complex. The PlayStation Brand always had a stronger global following. It is outselling the Xbox One at about the same rate as the PS3 is now outselling the Xbox 360. And it was outselling the 360 for years now. What we are seeing is a good marketing push, combined with the status quo.

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Waiting a decade for new instalments in franchises as massive as Fallout and Elder Scrolls feels like a waste.

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-Foxtrot10h ago

Microsoft have Obsidian but I feel it's Bethesda who just don't want to play ball as they've always said they want to do it themselves.

Once MS bought Zenimax in 2020 they should have put the Outer Worlds 2 on the back burner, allow Bethesda to finish off its own Space RPG with Starfield (despite totally different tone why have two in your first party portfolio with two developers who's gameplay is a tad similar) and got Obsidian for one of their projects to make a spiritual successor to New Vegas.

When the Elder Scrolls VI is finished Bethesda can then onto the main numbered Fallout 5 themselves.

The Outer Worlds 2 started development in 2019 so putting it on the back burner wouldn't have been the end of the world, they'd have always come back to it once Fallout was done and it would have been nicely spaced out from Starfields release once they had most likely stopped supporting it and all the expansions were released.

If they did this back in 2020 when they bought Zenimax and the game had a good, steady 4 - 5 years development, you might have seen it release in 2025.

We are literally going to be waiting until 2030 at the very earliest for Fallout 5 and all they seem bothered about is pushing Fallout 76.

RaidenBlack8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Its not just only Todd not playing ball.
Obsidian have made a name for themselves in delivering stellar RPGs, but most famous once have always been sequels/spin-offs to borrowed IPs like KOTOR 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, Fallout: New Vegas, Stick of Truth etc.
Obsidian wants to invest more in their own original IPs like Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity with Avowed.
Similar to what Bluepoint & inXile wants to do or Kojima is doing (i.e not involving anymore in Konami's IPs).
So yea, even if New Vegas has the most votes from 3D Fallout fans, Obsidian just wants to do their own thing, like any aspiring dev studio and MS is likely currently respecting that.
But a future Fallout game from Obsidian will surely happen. Founder Feargus Urquhart has already stated an year ago that they're eager to make a new Fallout game with Bethesda, New Vegas 2 or otherwise. Urquhart was the director of the very first 1995's Fallout game after all.
And don't forget Brian Fargo and his studio inXile, as Brian Fargo was the director of Fallout's 1988 predecessor: Wasteland

KyRo4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Obsidian should take over the FO IP. They're do far better with it than Bethesda who hasn't made a great game for almost 15 years

Duke194h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I disagree. Part of these games is the support for the mod community. If they move to releasing a "next game" every 2 or 3 years, the modding support plummets and the franchises turn into just another run of the mill RPG.

Make the games good enough to withstand the test of time, to keep people coming back to them and expanding on them with mod support.

--Onilink--1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I dont think anyone is saying they need to come out every 2 years (not to mention almost no game is released that quickly anymore)

By the time Fallout 5 comes out, it will be more than 15 years since Fallout 4 came out (same with ES6 coming out 15 years after Skyrim). Even if you want to use F76 as the metric for the most recent release, that one came out in 2018. It will be a miracle if F5 comes out before 2030

The point is that for a studio that doesnt seem to operate with multiple teams doing several projects at once, that their projects normally take 4-5 years as a minimum, and that now they even added Starfield to the rotation, it becomes a 15+ years waiting period between releases for each series, which doesnt make sense. Imagine that Nintendo only released a mainline Mario or Zelda game every 15 years…

They either need to start developing more than 1 project at a time, let someone else take a crack at one of the IPs or significantly reduce their development times

Duke1922m ago(Edited 19m ago)

Why should someone else take a crack at one of the IPs? Look at what happened to Final Fantasy as a recent example - there is pretty clear FF fatigue setting in because they are now pumping out titles in the franchise every few years. Pumping out more games faster doesn't always make a series better.

There are plenty of options to make new games, not just create more titles in the same universe at a faster pace.

mandf1h ago

Yeah I’m going to say it, who cares about the modding community when making a game? Half the time developers only tolerate modders because they fix there game for them.

Skuletor3h ago

Yeah, let's all advocate for smaller gaps between series' releases, then we'll probably get headlines about how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven. Let them cook.

SimpleSlave2h ago

"how the series have dropped in quality and they could have benefited from more time in the oven" So every Bethesda game then? Got it.

Listen, I would agree if this was about From Software or something, but Bethesda?

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C'mon now. What timeline are you from?

Skuletor16m ago

Think about it, they're already bug filled messes on their current schedule, can you imagine how much worse it would be if they rushed things?

Duke1921m ago

I mean you aren't wrong. People are going to complain about anything

isarai2h ago

Hows about you focus on quality, just a thought 🤷‍♂️

Sciurus_vulgaris1h ago

Bethesda [or Microsoft] would have to reallocate internal and external studios towards fallout and elder scrolls titles. Bethesda has the issue of developing 2 big IPs that are large RPGs on rotation. If you want more Fallout and Elder Scrolls, development will have to be outsourced.

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