Sony Has A New Feature Coming For The PS4 That's Going Bury The Xbox One

Amid all the exciting announcements coming out of last week’s Gamescom trade show in Cologne, Germany, Sony announced a handful of new features coming in its 2.0 firmware for the PlayStation 4.
And while firmware is rarely anything to get excited about, this particular update is different — because it will effectively help Sony put distance between itself and Microsoft’s Xbox One.

[Majin-vegeta]

IMO this will be a great thing.Lets say you have a friend who has never played (insert game name)so he's curious about it.You allow him to play it.He ends up loving the game.Boom it could result in a new fan of the series plus another sale for the dev.

[TheFutureIsBlue]

Yeah this will be awesome. Especially for some of my buddies who pick up a PS4 and want to try out Killzone or Resogun or any other game they might be interested in.

[Abash]

That feature actually convinced my sister to get the PS4. She is not a big gamer but has always loved them, she'll get a new console but hardly ever play the games she buys (which are few and far between).

When I told her about the feature she said she'll definitely get a PS4 and do Share Play with me whenever she feels up for playing a game, and I love that since we live far away from each other now and it'll be like we're playing some couch co-op sessions

[mark3214uk]

why all the down votes? is that the xbots jealous of the new feature?

[darthv72]

Share play is a neat idea. Im just curious what kind of quality things will be like. you figure your PS4 is acting as a streaming host and your friend is tapping into it so there will need to be some requirements for the internet up/down speeds on both ends.

[donthate]

mark:

This feature is extremely easy to replicate especially considering the new consoles already buffer the video stream for video recording and twitch broadcast.

Sending your input over the internet to another Xbox One console is no more difficult than sending your input to the cloud which is already done on all multiplayer games (unlike PS4 which has P2P multiplayer in games like KillZone Shadowfall).

Those two existing features combine to become Share Play.

Let's vote it as a requested feature on Xbox One and it will appear there to soon enough. I vaguely remember MS talked about this feature as well was coming to Xbox One around the console reveal.

[brads4]

They would get bored and do something else before the game downloaded to their console. Everyone is forgetting that part of the problem.

[BlackTar187]

@ Salty,

What does that have to do with Marks post?

[ShinMaster]

@ YouAreSalty

I'm pretty sure you heard it from Sony first at their reveal.

@ BlackTar

He's explaining to 'mark3214uk' why he is being a jealous Xbot.
lol

[mike_honcho]

@mark yeah it's safe to say those are jealous disagrees.. but this feature is going to be amazing.. this is pretty much what I mostly use gamefly for ATM the moment so I don't have to shell out a bunch of money for a game I'm not into.. another feature I'm looking forward to is where someone can take over control of your game and help you through a tough boss or level your having trouble with.. that was one of the features said to be coming before the ps4 was launched and I'm really looking forward to it..

and @YouAreSalty.. you are salty

[RioKing]

@YouAreSalty

"This feature is extremely easy to replicate."

Replicate??!! Micro$oft would NEVER do that! As for your name......that's what she said.

[jspsc123]

why would anyone want to play killzone for a hour

[ThePope]

Haha I love how people get down bubbles for trolling. But articles that troll. All good.

OT: MS was going to allow sharing of games with the initial design of the X1. You would install your game completely to the system and up to 5 friends could access it. Not all the details were fleshed out but that was the basic premise.

Don’t believe me look up the video of the unveiling.

And yes this absolutely could come to the X1 (and if its popular most likely will).

[Alucard_420]

@YouAreSalty

you said games,and you only pointed out Killzone Shadowfall. what are the other "game"s" I was wondering?.?

[USA007]

@ brads4
There is no download, the game's owner streams the second screen to their friend. I believe only split screen games will work unless the owner just wants to watch the friend play.

@ThePope
The X1's initial sharing plan works totally differently. Two people couldn't play the game at the same time. Sony's takes advantage of the split-screen feature, and "virtually passing a controller." Both are great ideas, but are 2 different things

[dedicatedtogamers]

I find it incredibly ironic that the main feature of the original restrictive Xbox One DRM (the fact that you could share your library with friends by just logging into Xbox Live) is now available on PSN and no DRM required.

[BinaryMind]

@mark - They're probably jealous he has a sister who plays games with him.

[mixolydian_id]

Can't say I'm that pumped about Shareplay.

It's another one of those features that people aren't asking for... but it's going to be done anyway because Sony have their own ulterior motives at the end of the day.

Share play...? Get your own game and we can play together instead

[Alsybub]

@mixolydian_id

Yeah, I can't see this feature being widely used in the long run. It sounds cool but when you think about it how many people would actually use it?

Of course there will be plenty of people wanting to play the games but how many people are going to be willing to repeatedly give up their console and play time to allow it? That will be its achilles heel. Not to mention that it's not too good on people's carbon footprint to use two PlayStations to play one game.

For this to be truly viable, and practical, friends would need to be able to download and play the game locally but that would require DRM, to ensure that only one copy of the game can be played at any one time and we know how gamers feel about that. That's the entire reason why it needs to be streamed from one system to another, to ensure that the disk is still in the possession of the sharer.

I suppose a slightly better solution would be to have the player download the game and play locally and have the owner's PS4 simply run a disc check to ensure the game is in the drive. This could even be done in a low power mode/standby. As well as being more efficient this would ensure that lag and other network issues wouldn't affect the player's experience.

As it stands it's an inelegant solution.

[Lifendz]

It's definitely a clever way of getting someone to try a demo. I like this better than the idea of someone taking over the control for me and playing through a tough part like what they announced at the PS4 unveil.

[Old McGroin]

@ dedicatedtogamers

"I find it incredibly ironic that the main feature of the original restrictive Xbox One DRM (the fact that you could share your library with friends by just logging into Xbox Live) is now available on PSN and no DRM required."

You do realise that DRM means the console would need to be online and that in order for Share Play to work the console would also need to be online? So it's pretty much the same thing. Ironic indeed.

[jimjam3442]

devs who make games that are terrible are cringing right now.
no more duping good people out of hard earned money.
guess an unintended consequence is that devs will either skip releasing on ps4, or make this feature not work for thieir game, either way it kets us know that game was only going to sell through lying to consumers.

[Godmars290]

No. This lets people who already paid for the game, let their friends play it via online for an hour. most who get fed up with that kind of arrangement are going to buy it themselves.

Likewise bad games will just more "advertised".

Hopefully though, given that you can apparently let others play any part of a game, it'll stop the trend of well designing the beginning of games. The part most reviewers will play to.

[frostypants]

Pretty sure the game has to explicitly support this feature. I don't think it will automatically work with all games like some people seem to think. Hope I am wrong but it would seem to be a huge potential copyright conflict with the publishers if Sony just made it work with any published game.

[jimjam3442]

are you assuming i thought this was a demo service? cause i wasnt, i know it requires one person to have the game, but devs will turn this off so new gamers cant try it and not like it, (read that last bit slow) if they feel their game isnt very good, like aliens colonial marines, i ignored the 4's and 5's out if 10's and bought it anyway hoping it was gonna be just a case of, "i didnt grow up watching the movie so i dont care" it wasnt a case of that. but had i played it, i wouldve immediatley known. like 2 seconds in i was ready to go find randy pitchfords lying ass. i mean that game sold millions i think, which is a travesty.

[Ju]

Quite the opposite, I guess. Some games get bad reviews but might still work for a difference audience. Now there is a higher chance to just try those out without taking the risk of getting burned which can actually turn out to be a good thing. Reviews are overrated and one mans opinion is often not the same as another ones.

[harrisk954]

@frostypants

Pretty sure the game has to explicitly support this feature. I don't think it will automatically work with all games like some people seem to think. Hope I am wrong but it would seem to be a huge potential copyright conflict with the publishers if Sony just made it work with any published game.

Wrong. So, you should be happy!

"Additionally, Yoshida revealed that because SharePlay is simply taking the streaming feature and making your PS4 the server, all PS4 games past and present will support SharePlay."

http://ps4daily.com/2014/08...

[Keith22]

@Ju "Won't help. You still need a PS4 to play." immm I just said there is two in my house?

[GribbleGrunger]

Sahre-play probably won't feature 'full screen' play for the person who's sharing your game (as seen in the reveal). Add that to the 60 minute restriction -- although you can initiate another 60 minutes immediately -- and you have a decent gaming experience to judge the game by but not an ideal situation if you want to play the game yourself. It's absolutely perfect and a killer app.

[Keith22]

Good when theres two PS4 in the house to.

[Ju]

Won't help. You still need a PS4 to play.

[Ju]

One can't read the other one can't reply :) (yeah, yeah, one is me...)

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

I wonder if you can LAN into a Playstation TV or PS4 for a little Bedroom vs. Den Madden.

[CloudRap]

Would have much rather had themes though.....(cries silently)

[johndoe11211]

Seriously?????

[hudechek]

you have gotta be kidding...

[SmielmaN]

While I think this new share feature is pretty awesome, I would love themes back too. I miss the customization options for everything. And dynamic themes.

[lawgone]

I'd rather have themes too but to fanboys, that somehow sounds anti-Sony because it makes it appear what was in this article is not the greatest thing since sliced bread. And if you are a fanboy you MUST treat every new feature as the greatest thing ever.

[slappy508]

Im pretty sure themes will be supported in future patches, but right now for Sony getting shareplay out ASAP is definitely the priority. They can address themes later

[Shadowolf]

Themes over SharePlay and gameplay uploads to Youtube, wow!

[yarbie1000]

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[Blaze929]

bury the xbox one? Lol these sensational headlines for Sony related topics are hilarious I swear.

But when MS was trying to launch Xbox One with Game Share everyone had a problem with it. Now we don't have that feature at all. I don't understand.

Meanwhile Xbox One has USB media and DLNA support already....(preview program)

[Godmars290]

Nevermind all the good of what family sharing would/will do for XB1?

Also feel the need to point out that Sony announced this feature when they first announced/showed off the PS4.

[MasterCornholio]

"But when MS was trying to launch Xbox One with Game Share everyone had a problem with it. Now we don't have that feature at all. I don't understand."

I'll help you understand but first let's break up your comment in two parts.

"But when MS was trying to launch Xbox One with Game Share everyone had a problem with it."

Let's not kid ourselves. People loved the idea of being able to share games with friends and family effortlessly. What they didn't like was Microsoft's draconic DRM policies that came with it. I'm sure you still remember all the fuss that lead to Microsoft dropping it in the end.

"Now we don't have that feature at all."

By we you mean Xbox One owners. Sony managed to implement their version of the family share plan without any crazy DRM policy attached to it. Microsoft could do the same thing but they want their previous DRM policies attached to it.

In conclusion people loved Microsoft's family share plan. Many of them believed it was the best feature that the Xbox One had. But the majority of them didn't like the restrictions that Microsoft imposed on physical copies to have it. Sony is doing something similar but without turning the system into a DRM box. That's the main reason why people are excited for this feature on the PS4.

Thank you for taking the time to read my comment.

:)

@God

Your right. I remember seeing Knack being shared played.

[Ju]

Ahem...I share my games with my son all the time. You can only have someone with another account play your games on your activated PS4...but you can play your games with your account on PS4s without activating them. Works just fine.

Also...this "share" thingie is all built on Sony's streaming tech. Who ever plays with you plays it on your PS4 streaming to his/hers. Basically it's a private "Playstation Now" session - with multiplayer support.

[Condemnedman]

Yep typical bloated headlines to feed the trolls

Still not made me buy a ps4 yet

[Back-to-Back]

As usual the xbox faanboys forgot all the drm issues facing MS's new features. Short memory much?

[GribbleGrunger]

Do you honestly believe that gameshare on the XB1 was real? Just give this a little thought: You are getting hammered by the press because of DRM and need a great way of changing the narrative from positive to negative. What could you possibly do to persuade them? You have a feature that COULD possibly persuade them, but you decide the best thing to do is keep that feature quiet and only tell people about it AFTER DRM is removed.

It was a crafty way of pushing that negativity onto the people that fought against DRM. Instead of seeing it as a victory for fair trading, it made it look as if those complaining had ruined it for everyone else. It worked for a while too, with many gamers almost begging for DRM to return. How easy it is to manipulate some people is remarkable.

It may be implemented at some point in the future, but prior to the dropping of DRM, it DID NOT EXIST. You've been fooled ... again. Green is the colour of naivety, envy and money. Everything MS promotes and everything MS represents.

[Conzul]

At least the bone is getting .mkv support.

Should push PlayStation to do likewise.

[scootscottskeet93]

Why in the hell are people disagreeing with majin?? Nothing he said there was wrong

[brich233]

On Xbox One, my friend can play all my digital games for free at the same time while I'm playing and he can use his own profile while being 100 miles away or across the world.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[xxjabberxx]

You can do this on the PS3 and PS4 since day 1.

[Mystogan]

But you can only play for an hour...

This feature is cool but it's no big deal xD

Certainly not big enough to bury the Xbox one. Not even dent it. Xbox One right now has a lot more useful features.

[Jaqen_Hghar]

please enlighten us. Useful features is not suspend/resume because a man's PS4 does that when he presses the PS button and turns the TV off (oh no a man has to spend 3 more cents on electricity that day!) and "snapping" is just a buzzword describing multitasking. PS4 can do that as you can simply click the PS button twice and it will switch between the other tasks. A man is sorry if you really wanna watch a movie and a game at once (because getting anything out of those two at once is definitely possible) but you gotta go back and forth lol

[larrysdirtydrawss]

its a very cool feature,and a hour is plenty,not everybody plays for an hour at a time... im not sure you seen consoles sales,xone has been buried since the ps4 launched.

[Codewow]

Isn't that what demos are for?

[ravens52]

The hour time limit was mentioned for far cry 4's ability to let a friend play. They didn't say there'd be a time limit for share play!!!!!!!!

[700p]

"That's Going Bury The Xbox One" fanboy overload lmao

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Yeah, felt creepy clicking on the link.

[SouthClaw]

People forget that Microsoft announced a similar feature when they originally announced the Xbox One when it was all digital. You could buy a game and let other people use it. Funny how people forget.

[Antifan]

That good ole family sharing features. Too bad MS discontinued it because they had to get rid of their precious DRM plans.
Sony beat them to the punch.

[DougLord]

MSFT was going to let you "lend" games, but they wanted to put DRM on it. The outrage over it and the required Internet check in is one (of several) factors that led to poorer sales vs PS4. Sony has stolen the idea, and modified it a bit so that while you don't have the DRM and Internet requirement, you can only do it with games you bought digitally. I would expect MSFT could do something very similar since they initially built the Xbone to do this.

[rainslacker]

Sony announced Share Play at their reveal. I don't think they had a fancy name for it then. They even showed it in action playing Knack.

Has there been any confirmation that it's digitally only? From my understanding Share Play is only available when the original content owner is playing the game, but could be used with retail games as well. Basically someone else just takes over the game, it's not the same premise of what MS was doing at all.

Sony also allowed up to 5 people to share a digital game from day one on the PS3. They eventually changed it to sharing it with 2 people due to publisher pressure.

So, no, Sony didn't steal an idea and modify it at all. MS came out with their sharing after E3 when they couldn't find anything good to defend their DRM policies.

[johndoe11211]

Did you just have the audacity to say that sony "stole" that idea? Are you freaking serious?????? you know every time I see an article calling sony fanboys the worst fanboys ever I just laugh to myself.

Let me give you a little troll education: http://youtu.be/qh8KLN-l86o...
That, by the way, was at the playstation reveal last year February, 2 MONTHS before the xbox one reveal. if anything I would say that microsoft took their idea and modified it.

[Infamazdre]

This article is cute for now wait until Microsoft drops there share function where you can borrow full games as long as you want sorry but this ain't gonna bury anything

[boing1]

Yeah, let's see them doing that.

[GordonKnight]

This firmware update is 9 months too late!!!!!!

The console should've launched with the features this firmware will provide.

IMO

[GordonKnight]

Will this be compatible with PlayStation TV?

[boing1]

I don't see why not. It's almost the same idea as Playstation Now, just from your console.

[ChrisW]

As awesome as it sounds... How many people are actually going to utilize such a feature to its fullest extent on a regular basis?

[christian hour]

As great as this feature is, it makes me sad to see a grammatically incorrect headline at the top of n4g. The end times are upon us!!! :P

[IAM]

Or your friends just leech off u. Damn all my associates r broke. ill have to buy them a PS4 too in order for them to make use of it, then there are those who work but have poor money management.

The only benifit I see personally is the having of two PS4 in the house n not having to buy two games. Better then pre own wait for price drops, & waiting for a rental I suppose. Just don't have any surprised charges.

[otherZinc]

LMAO!

This is garbage.
And
Great, at the same time.

Garbage:
There are "no" AAA PS4 games that have Campaign Co-op!

Great:
Friends can sample "garbage" like Infamous Second Son, Killzone Shadow Fall, Drive Club, and the mega garbage Knack; Saving friends $60 per.

[LamerTamer]

This will require allot of overhead now in the form of memory and CPU etc as it takes extra processing. Does this mean devs will now have even LESS power to devote to the games themselves as the OS will gobble up even more memory/CPU? Even if you aren't using it won't they have to provide for the ones that do and therefore have to downgrade resolution/framerate/graphics so that it will run with this feature?

If so this is a BAD thing, more OS bloat (and one I will never use).

[boing1]

No. Compression is hardware based and has dedicated chip for that. There is no hit on processing power.

[Pogmathoin]

Again, its only good when Sony does it....... No arguments here, it is N4S.....

[sho0ok]

If you guys really care about Devs, DRM was the solution... No offense to anyone just think about it first.

[Majin-vegeta]

Smh at you damn people who think DRM will save devs!

[FanboyKilla]

lol ok. because ps4 has no features, its going to make one, that kills xone. lmfao jealous of the updates and progress eh? yeah just add that feature onto the list of things you say you are going to do eventually.

thats a pretty impressive things to do list you got there ps4.

[reko]

jealous?

LOL

[Kill Crow]

I don't get it ... don't free demo's negate this - if you wanted to try before you by you just download the demo? What am I missing here? That you can play the demo with a mate? that's not really revolutionary is it?

[awi5951]

Man im so glad im staying out of this childish console war this Gen these type of stories are just sad. The kids dont remember the 100 dollar games we had to buy when one console had a monopoly on gaming.

[cellfluid]

Isn't t@ what demos are for?? Anyway sounds interesting!!

[ARESWARLORD]

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

like this did to PS3

[jaredhart]

It is definitely something nice to have. Similar to the "family share thing" Microsoft said they had planned but never went into detail.

Not necessarily a game changer, but something great to have nonetheless.

[amiga-man]

Sony are not holding back, they seem to have a lot up their sleeve and aces to play.

Theres a lot more to come from the PS4

[bmf7364]

*Family Sharing* on Xbox One offered the ability to share your digital game library (but not play the same game at the same time).
Steam currently has the exact same family sharing system with the same exact restrictions. Sony is allowing "Couch Co-Op" via the internet like how they have been describing it.

[Elit3Nick]

@bmf7364 there is no co-op element in here, this simply allows you stream the game from a friend's PS4 to your own, you can't both play it simultaneously.

[amiga-man]

shloobmm3
This is a stripped down version of what Microsoft was offering way back when they announced the xbox one that every balked at. Only difference is Microsofts version didn't have a limited play time.

Except you don't have any of the crap MS were trying to force on gamers, you know the DRM, always online and kinect so not the only difference at all

Funny how you chose not to mention that,

[Johnsonparts23]

@Elit3Nick Yes, yes there is. Do your research dude, you can play co-op or against each other in 2K or Fifa (or anything else like that).

[Death]

This feature was announced before the PS4 released. It's a 60 minute game share for Plus subscribers. Details are sketchy so far and you would think that developers/publishers will be able to opt out of participating. If two can play for the price of one, publishers may not be thrilled with the idea. It's a great way to reduce game sales.

[Ju]

@Elit3Nick of course you can (if the game supports local multiplayer). You can also pass control back and forth from your to the other PS4 handing over sections of the game on the fly to a "spectator".

[SoapShoes]

@shloobmm3, Sony announced this feature before Microsoft even showed off the Xbox One.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Or a great way to increase game sales. Friends who want to play the game on their own time would have to buy the game. Co-op games would be an awesome avenue to introduce new games, better than word of mouth.

[christian hour]

@shloobmm3

This is nothing like the family sharing plan that was supposed to be a part of xbox one, nothing like it at all. The console sharing (that has been a part of PS4 since launch) is probably more akin to what family sharing would have been like.

PS3 had something similar to "family sharing" too albeit a bit more generous with the amount of consoles you could share your content with. I had 4 friends from what I recall using my FF7 purchase on PSN a few years a back.

Kinda sucks ps4 is restricted to 2 consoles but I can totally understand why, I felt somewhat criminal sharing my entire digital ps3 library with multiple friends :P

But yeah, "digital couch co-op" is nothing like console sharing or the family plan xbox one was supposed to have, and this is also a feature that was announced for ps4 back in feb 2013 (or whenever the unveil was) long before microsoft unveiled the xbone so drawing comparisons now, this late in the game, is just silly.

[rainslacker]

So much revisionist history by some Xbox fans thinking that MS thought of it first.

Anyhow, On topic

@Death

It may not be possible to opt out. It could be required to allow on all titles. On the PS3, remote play had to be enabled for each game, and was at the discretion of the publisher. What we saw was that most publishers didn't bother allowing it.

Because of that, Sony may require it to meet system compliance for any title released on the system. Right now since a lot of details are unknown, it's hard to say if publishers would be OK with all this or not. If it's just a one hour play time with a healthy cool down, and can only be used when the source PS4 has the game playing, then I can't see why they'd have a problem with it.

I could see where they might have a problem if a person could play the whole game by just having their friend renew their licence though. In fact, the PS App or remote play could inadvertently allow the client player to just refresh the game when the source player isn't there, but I'm sure that it would be fixed pretty quickly.

Anyhow, just some speculation, because as I say, there is still too many unknown details. It's a nice feature either way. I think if they allowed couch co-op without the time limit it would be awesome for games that have couch co-op so you don't need to have to code a separate MP mode.

@Christian
I thought the PS2 moved it down to 2 people a few years ago due to publisher pressure.

[iamnsuperman]

You are right. I see this feature as nice but not a game changer. Social stuff in gaming tends not to be. I also think they need to expand it beyond the share play. It should really become like a portable passport. Where we can go to other machines and play our games without the need to re-download them as the run off the home machine.

[Keith22]

@shloobmm3

Limited game time? last I heard you can jump straight back on it so its not that limited.

[Death]

It's limited to 60 minutes at a time for Plus subscrbers to play co-op. According to Sony you can pick up from the last game save after being auto logged out at the 60 minute mark. "More details are to come later". There has to be a way for publishers to opt out of this though. It will be a hard sell by Sony to make this happen all across the board. The potential lost sales seems much higher than potential sales for those using this as a demo.

Time limits, subscription requirements, and a required internet connection. Isn't this the same "DRM" restrictions people were up in arms with not to long ago? The only thing missing is the daily check in for library verification.

[GTgamer]

@death "Time limits, subscription requirements, and a required internet connection. Isn't this the same "DRM" restrictions people were up in arms with not to long ago?"

False people were up in arms becauuuuuuuuuse What MS was about to do would stop us from buying used games soooooo I see no similaritys at all so you all can be quiet now Gracias.

[DLConspiracy]

@Death

Yep same thing only it didn't limit you to co op games only. You would have been able to share any game on your family share plan for Xbox One. There was even rumor from a supposed employee that it would last an hour at a time and you could play simultaneously has long as you were connected online to verify. Only this included games that were not just co op but also single player games etc. One of the features I was most looking forward to on Xbox.

The title of this article is just click bait the rest of the article is much more tame.

[Death]

@GT,

Check your facts. Microsoft was giving us the ability to rip our games to the HDD and use them like we do digital copies bought off the online store. When we wanted to trade these retail games in, we had to do it at an authorized retailer that could unlock them from our libraries. We could still buy and trade these used games, we were simply limited to where it could be done. The 24 hour check in was to verify we hadn't traded our games in.

Sony's game share is similar to what Microsoft was offering with one exception. On Xbox we were downloading the actual game when we shared them. The quality was the same as retail unlike the streaming that game share will offer. Both had/have time restrictions which are enforced by DRM. This is needed to prevent lost sales for both publishers and retailers. If Sony is trully offering a way to play from save files one hour at a time, I would imagine these same publishers and retailers won't be happy.

[GTgamer]

@Death
Yeah because nooooooo body was up in arms about our friends having to pay to access our games smfh matter of fact MS should of stayed with their oringinal vision see how that would turned out for you ಠ_ಠ. I swear y'all got amnesia because When Sony first announced shareplay in February why weren't you guys calling Sony fans hypocrites then hmmmm? please tell me but somehow today Sony fans are hypocrites for for wanting share play :/.

"If Sony is trully offering a way to play from save files one hour at a time, I would imagine these same publishers and retailers won't be happy."

Where was this comment when MS was about to do the same thing but worst i wonder (•ิ_•ิ).

[christian hour]

I used to have an ISP that would log me off of XBL or PSN every hour like clock work so, I'm more than prepared for the interruption! I knew those two years of ISP hell would pay off in the end! :P (/s)

[Mikelarry]

is it a great feature... sound interesting enough, bury the xbox one come on now that is just exaggerating. wait til we actually get some hands on and run some real world test before exaggerating a feature.

[lawgone]

I agree it could be a great feature. Time will tell. It seems there are significant technical hurdles that they didn't explain how they will overcome. I know if I tried to stream anything with my upload speeds it would look awful.

[Kavorklestein]

Yeah, not really gonna bury the Xbox one. Stupid headline.
In my opinion, it cold actually HARM game sales on the PS4, because what if people who would have taken the risk of buying a game they thought looked good, get to play their friend's copy, and decide they don't want it?

I remember times when I wanted to play a game with a certain friend I would have to buy it, and that would help the developer get money they deserve for the game, and they got a sale because I like playing with friends.
Now, those developers might not get a sale because people can just play it for an hour at a time, or may decide after playing it for an hour, to never play it again. Or it could encourage people to buy a game as well.. Time will tell, like many have been saying.

It's a double edged sword, it benefits gamers, but it could impact copies sold and could hurt games success on PS4.
But a test run could also CONVINCE people to buy games they were on the fence about.

It's a cool feature/option to have nonetheless.

[Neonridr]

I will wait to see this in actual practice. Playing the game for myself on my console while my friend has to have the game streamed to them on their console sounds great in theory. But will there be lag on his end which will make our games play completely different? Will his lag affect my experience if I am waiting around for him to catch up everytime..

Again, sounds cool, but I would like to see more of this first.

[arkard]

If lag is similar at all to remote play (which it should be, same concept after all) I wouldnt worry about it.

[Neonridr]

remote play is in the same room/house. In Share Play the other person could be on the other side of the world..

[iamnsuperman]

@Neonridr

Remote doesn't necessarily have to be in the same house/room. Remote play, this time around, has two modes. One is done through proximity (making your PS4 act as some sort of hub). The other is still through the internet (though my experience has been dependent on the internet service provider and where I am)

Here is an example https://www.youtube.com/wat... not me by the way

[arkard]

@neonridr I've never used remote play in the same house, I'm speaking strictly over Internet from my personal experience.

[rainslacker]

I've played it over the internet for PS1 RPG's on the PSP(had a small memory card) without any problem. It works pretty well, but is prone to the internet connection. There are some places where my internet was super laggy, and it wasn't the best, but more often than not it worked great.

[Corpser]

Sounds good in theory but we already know the 60 minute session limit, what other limits are there? I imagine it would be streaming like ps now and limit to at best 720p 30fps .

[AutoCad]

How bout a friend notification ?

[TheFallenAngel]

For real I can't believe this was in the ps3 and not on he ps4!

[creatchee]

Business Insider should really check its hyperbole detector, because it's broken.

That said, Share Play looks cool.

[Software_Lover]

sooooooooo everyone is on this killer feature but when Microsoft was allowing people to share their games (just like steam does now) it was bad?

edit: Spencer did say they were thinking about ways to bring some of the features back. Microsofts first offering and Share Play go about things two different ways.

In no way is this feature gonna bury the Xbox as the Xbox feature was not gonna bury the PS4.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Well MS was doing it in a restrictive fashion like DRM.

[Death]

lol

So Microsoft was using DRM and Sony is just setting a time limit, requiring the disc be in the drive for verification if not down loaded off PSN, requiring Plus, requiring an internet connection and timing out/auto log out both players after 60 minutes. Yeah, definately not DRM...

[JeffGUNZ]

@ AngelicIce DIamond

Uh, this is DRM in a nutshell wit this SINGLE feature.

[IG-88]

@ Death
I don't think you know what DRM is. Well, maybe I don't know what it is but as far as I know DRM is where you need an internet connection to play a game even if it is a single player game that does not need to have an internet connection to play the full game. The time limit with DRM games is how long you can play the with out an internet connection like when the Xbox One was going to have you connect once every 24 hours. As far as needing the disk in the PS4 to play the game the way i understand it is that one person is playing the game on their PS4 and a friend would be invited to play it so they would be streaming the game which would need an internet connection and Plus to use like any other game that you play online on the PS4 other than free to play games.

[Death]

@IG-88,

You kind of know what DRM is. Digital Rights Management has many forms, it's not restricted to online connections. Requiring a constant online connection is probably the simplest way of enforcing DRM. An earlier term for DRM was Copy Protection. Sony's awesome Rootkit DRM used for audio CD's, the code needed to unlock your PC games, Content Scrambling System which many DVD's used, and disc based varification for games we install to the HDD on PS3/360/PS4/Xbox One are all forms of DRM.

Persistent Online Authorization or always on/connected DRM was never part of Microsoft's initial plans for the Xbox One. Many hardcore Sony fans made the claim in the hopes of keeping people from buying the system. The original proposed feature was to allow gamers to rip their games to the HDD and not need the disc in the drive for verification. This made it possible to use your console as a game keg allowing you to access your library remotely, do game sharing, etc. To prevent users from ripping borrowed/rented games, Microsoft performed a check of your ripped games to their database. When you traded in a game it had to be unlocked from your game list. This also enforced the shared games feature keeping two people from using the game at the same time. You could share the game, unplug your connection and play for up to 24 hours. After that the game would be unplayable untill it had an internet connection to check if anyone else had access or it was traded.

It wasn't a perfect plan and it wasn't explained very well. They also needed an option for people that didn't have the internet to still play their games. The easy answer was to make this an option. Either you ripped, or the option wasn't available and all games needed disc based verification.

I would absolutely opt in for this if it were made available. Microsoft wanted to do for games what Apple did for music.

[LamerTamer]

@Death -
"I would absolutely opt in for this if it were made available. Microsoft wanted to do for games what Apple did for music. "

But it is nothing like it. With iTunes songs you can use the files on any player at any time, can be backed up, and you don't need to check in online every 24 hours (or ever)to listen to the music. So what MS wanted to do was nothing like Apple.

[WeAreLegion]

It was bad because they never actually told us what it was.

[Baka-akaB]

people didnt say it was bad , you're being Disingenuous . People were grilling the few clowns defending the DRM for the sake of the feature , and the idea that it was impossible without it .

Even if its not the same , this look alike is still proving other solutions were possible , alongside the original ps3 game sharing system . And it felt back then as if MS were punishing people for not agreeing with the DRM : "No drm ? Ok then no family sharing for you !!"

[Software_Lover]

......you have to be online to use this feature of the ps4.

this is an edit: I understand the whole DRM thing. We are past that. They F'd up with the 24-48 hour check in. That turned a lot of people away.

[Baka-akaB]

@Software_Lover

Yes you have to be online to use it . Wich we know is at least a choice . You're right we are past that . I just feel people were latching at whatever positive crap to justify a forced DRM wich is what people were vehemently against , not the feature itself .

Other than that , of course it burying any console is a joke

[matt139]

lol you wish. YAWN.

[EvilWay]

Bury the Xbox One with one feature?

Please. Console's are about games, features are important but not a game changer. Stupid article

[Drekken]

I agree, one feature isn't burying the competition. The PS4 is already burying the XBO.

[user7402931]

it already did

[lawgone]

It was a major click bait article filled with problems. But it got lots of hits for "Business Insider" so goal accomplished. That's the pathetic state of journalism these days. No integrity whatsoever.

[LAWSON72]

I lost interest in the share features when they said you don't download the game. This means it is streamed from either the friends machine which is unlikely because I think they said you could play a game with the friend and the PS4 is not powerful enough to run two games at once or it is streamed from the cloud which is the likely candidate. Either way quality will be lossed, sure it is free but still no thanks.

[WeAreLegion]

Why would you download the game? That would take forever to actually share with someone.

"Wanna join my game?"

"Sure! Give me an hour."

Really, dude?

[Baka-akaB]

An hour ? You're optimistic on the state of most people's net

[LAWSON72]

My point is it sounds good on paper but in practice for the time it will be extremely hard to execute and not near as great as it sounds. It will be limited and far from some worth while feature that will destroy the competition

[WeAreLegion]

PlayStation Now's streaming is fast and fantastic. I can't imagine it would be much different here. I can't wait!

[lawgone]

Because with most people have 5Mb/s upload speed there will be significant lag and/or degradation in video quality. Downloading would solve that. Or you could just do the traditional demo route. Not sure why this is a big deal.

Edit: Stop using logic LAWSON72, that doesn't work when everyone is stuck in group think mode. Just nod your head and agree this is the greatest thing ever. ;)

[GW212]

Halo MCC runs two games at once in Halo 2, correct? I believe that's why XB1 continues to struggle to hit 1080p/60fps in Halo 2.

PS4 is stronger so it should be able to run two games at once with even better quality than XB1.

Further, this doesn't require the duplication of the entire game in terms of rendering. It requires the game to be rendered once and only transferability of inputs and streaming capability are at issue here (goes to bandwidth).

I'm pretty sure this was a "no" for you from the get-go because of what system is bringing it to market. You're a true gamer.

[LAWSON72]

Yeah an Xbone can't render a Xbox game and HD version so PS4 is completely capable of rendering two versions of FC4 at the same time and even better over the internet. So try again.

Also I game on all systems so try again there as well. I have probably played and own more PS3 games then you bud. I just know an interesting feature like this is bound to not be near as great as it sounds. Look at PS Now it is pretty much an experiment that has a very long road ahead to become anything special. I would say the same about the feature on Xbone.

Just because I don't praise things Sony does not make me a Xbone fanboy. I just don't hold them to some high degree of greatness like everyone else on this site does

[Software_Lover]

It will probably be just a small delay as the game syncs with the other ps4 waiting for controller input. Its just streaming like Onlive.

It will not be instant. If it is I will be very, very surprised.

[zerog]

And why would it be running 2 games? Its the same differance as playing couch multiplayer just with 2 couchs in different places and the only thing streaming is the image just like the share feature and the button imputs are coming back from your friends machine. There might be a small drop in image quality on the friends screen but theres no reason it shouldn't work any worse then online multiplayer.

[bleedsoe9mm]

i think his point is your friends ps4 isn't running anything , your ps4 is just acting like a ps now server only over slower internet connection .

[bleedsoe9mm]

i'm not an expert but the idea of using your ps4 and your crappy home internet to stream gameplay to another ps4 somewhere else has got to be dodgy at best . even the best home internet service is going to be slower than connections to ps now servers .

[GW212]

If this works "in the wild," it will be a game-changer.

Will it bury MS? No, but they'll have to scramble to play catch-up. This isn't minor suspend/resume or YouTube functionality.

[SwiftArsonist]

may need i remind you this is a OPINION based article. that's only an opinion, not fact. control your fanboy impulses. carry on.

[lunatic0001]

I understand when its an opinion article and everyone is entitled to their own opinion but why can the title of the article be ps4 share play will kick ass for PS gamers instead of writing a title on how its going to bury the Xbox one...just sounds like a dick thing to say

[user367272]

This feature was already posted on the news like a couple weeks back. Was on Neogaf and the users there doesn't seems to be that excited about it. It is useful but it is just there to preview games over the internet to entice buyers like a demo and has a time limit. I think Farcry 4 is using such feature and it was announced at the Sony e3 press conference.

[Sm00thNinja]

It's interesting but the 60 minute cap kinda just turns into an extended demo..... When more details surface ill bite. I wonder how EA feels about this

[Spotie]

Except you have infinite demos that are consecutive.

[Sm00thNinja]

Sounds like PSNOW..

[NoeLennon]

Come on, they can hardly make ps3 games stream acceptably from their large Gaikai pipes... And with the 2.0 patch, were going to be able to stream games, all the while sending our own gameplay packets back and forth? On a mediocre home connection? Maybe with the other user downloading the game, or using your disc... but streaming??

[zerog]

If psnow isn't working for you then your internet sucks because I've not had an issue with my mediocer 6Mbs per sec. And I'm sure it works just like any other hosted online multiplayer with the host machine doing the work and the only thing being streamed is the video to your friend and his button imputs being sent back. Online multiplayer uses very little data during gameplay, its in Kbs so its the host machines connection that matters the most since it has to stream the video.

[DualWielding]

It wouldn't do all that, basically its a peer to peer streaming thing... your ps4 streams whatever is on your screen to your friends ps4, your friends ps4 streams your friend control inputs to yours.... It'll work for single player or games that support local multiplayer...... It won't work for online multiplayer

[S2Killinit]

mine is working great. Have you tried it? its awesome. (;

[CuddlyREDRUM]

MP3 and DLNA playback?

[jujubee88]

lol No one replies to this. xD

[Muzikguy]

Share Play sounds great but I have tons of questions on it. How exactly does it work? Is it going to be an app of some kind? Will there be a notification that pops up of Joe's friend wants to check out the game? Would it then seemlessly hand over control to Joe's friend while he watched the friend play on his (Joe's) tv? Will it work with all games? If so, will it REALLY work with all games and not just select ones? Can you record gameplay of your friend playing off your tv to broadcast online? Many more questions too...

The idea sounds great but I don't know if I'd want to just sit there and not play anything while someone else is playing my game. I'll definitely check it out though.

[rainslacker]

I'm sure the details will be released at some point in time. There will be restrictions and limitations to what people can do obviously.

At some point we'll get a press release or an interview or a blog post or FAQ which will explain it all.

[Muzikguy]

I'm just getting the feeling that like a lot of other things, we won't get what they're promising. That's why I have a lot of questions

[modesign]

the xbone doesnt need help from sony when it comes to burying its own grave,

[jablocanas]

Meh, 1080p-gate is more of a platform killer than SharePlay. XB1 will likely get a form of this when they bring back family/friend sharing anyway...

[turdburgler1080]

LMAO. Share play? Really!? Apparently this authors got his head so far up his own ass he thinks share play is the be all end all. Give me a break if there's anything folks really want it's full DLNA. Can't believe businessinsider pays this guy money.

[Yaay4me]

xbone already buried i think.

[Pro_TactX]

That is a pretty sensationalist title. I can't take authors seriously when they start with sensationalism. I am looking forward to Share Play, because I tend to buy way more games than my friends do, but it certainly isn't going to "bury" the Xbox One.

[Tzuno]

It will finally make sandwiches while you grow a beard grinding for platinum.

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

LOL.

Xbox One has DLNA support.

Next?

[MattE]

Pity PS4 has no games to share.. but to be fair you could probably finish all the indies within 60mins. Nice

[Destiny1080]

it has more games then the xboxone

http://www.listwar.com/rele...

ps4 106 games
xboxone 61 games

[Baszs]

Well you Playstation bro's can share all the arcade games you have.. congrats..

[S2Killinit]

why do you keep repeating something that is so clearly false? PS4 has more games buddy, go count them. and I mean in EVERY SINGLE category. don't believe me? go look it up. Xbone is behind, just get over it.

[fullmetal297]

That sounds like an excellent to in include. I have been yearning for an inexpensive solution to LAN parties and Shadow Play seems to be the answer. With Shadow Play, my friend can play cooperative with me without the having to purchase the game or paying for an annual PSN fee if he doesn't have PS Plus.

[Magnus701]

Share Play requires PS Plus >.>

[Destiny1080]

double the power, double the features

[Gamer777]

LOL at bury the Xbox One. Does the author only want one console to be present on the market?

[Gore-Content]

"Bury xbone"!!!! I like that! A lot!!

[Knucklez504]

smh idiot fanboy

[MCTJim]

So this "sharing" feature allows my buds to play my game for 1hr. Not really a burying feature, but a plus nonetheless.

[Veryprettyboylovesth]

I still say its strongest point is still the vitas cross-play connection , with cable having hotspots everywhere & increasing its going to literally a mobile ps4 soon. Now that's something for sony toot about

[tommygunzII]

It's not the features that will bury Xbox.

[beereal360]

I seriously doubt it features wise xbox has always been light years ahead of playstation. Hell the 360 still has better features than the ps4.

[mrpsychoticstalker]

Hmm nope. Wishful thinking.

[Brooklynbully718]

Yeah when they come out the year 3002

[PsyMonk3y]

Awesome feature can't wait but i can see a lot of online game scoreboards being boosted for friends with this update. lol

[ScorpiusX]

Is he really referring to this come on now , that in noway looks like a nail of any kind ..... http://www.idigitaltimes.co...

[Psychotica]

I hope it works as good as it sounds. I wish it would work over a LAN for two PS4's in one house.

[marioJP87]

Cool and all but won't this affect game sales though? What if you 200,000 people who uses this feature to play with a buddy instead of purchasing the game themselves?

[Reaper29r]

Got me all excited for nothing. I mean it's a cool feature but nothing super amazing. It's 60 minutes. Basically a demo from your friend. We don't need this, we need companies to start making demos for all their games again. Still, good on Sony for at least trying, though I can see a lot of devs unsure of their product opting out.

I'm curious why people are applauding this like the second coming yet tore into MS like a zombie horde on fresh meat. Theirs was a lot more advanced (from what we know) the only down side was the always online connection IMO . They should have made it so only the games you marked as loaned have to check in. Would make sense,help prevent piracy. I really hope they stick to their guns next time and if people don't want to buy it then tough shit. Listening to your customers is one thing, but completely caving in and changing your vision is another. They should have taken surveys based off people with actual XBL accounts. You won't win with everyone and plenty of people will hate and judge you regardless, so you should do things the way you like.

[TWB]

Backwards compatibility ? Okay, no then...

And how is this a system crushing feature ? Invite your friends lazy ass over at your place and pass the controller.

I know that many people have friends at PSN that live outside of their region or are simply just "internet friends" but still, hardly a competition crushing feature.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

The reality is this is a new way to deliver a demo experience. Its certainly innovative but its not a game changer as this article is trying to lead us all to believe. End of the day you are limited to an hour of play and you will still need to buy the actual game if you want to play beyond that "demo" session.

[TWB]

Not only that but people always tend to forget that any type of cloud gaming tends to add extra input latency (which is what Im always the most concerned about. It was not fun to play BF3 with 200ms input lag on PS3) and this wont be an exception.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

This basically is another way to deliver a demo to a potential buyer but instead of being an actual demo you are playing your friends game so you will get the added "friend factor".

[Kingdomcome247]

I've read that if you set up a shareplay session for a friend to try a game, that this essentially locks you out of being able to do anything else on your Ps4 while they're hour long session is in progress. This is the only thing that kind of turns me off on the idea.

[Kingdomcome247]

What the heck, I'll waste a bubble on a grammatical correction. It's not like they're are too needed anyhow. It seems to me, just about the only way to get a conversation started is by getting someone riled up.

*their

[quenomamen]

To be fair the X1 is kinda limping around with a busted flipper so burying it would not be a tremendous feat. Its like shooting a 3 legged dear and bragging about it.

[JeffGUNZ]

I hope you're just talking about sales? Come on man, this is why you have two bubbles. The Xbox one may not be selling nearly as well as PS4, but it's got a great 2014 lineup, lots of great features to the console, and some really great and promising games lined up for 2015. Both consoles are a great investment. Stop trolling and just play games.

[Silly gameAr]

So many salty people in here. Feature sounds cool, but the PS4 is doing just fine on it's on. One feature is not going to kill the X1.

Stop flipping out.

[neomahi]

Right. Everyone knows Microsoft's business strategy. They don't want to give Sony an inch and they want their console to be able to do everything Sony's can. Microsoft isn't innovative so all they know how to do is copy everyone else, in any market they invade. So, shortly after Sony releases this update, Microsoft will see how it fares and then they copy it. They're going to integrate PHOTO upload just like PS4 does.

This isn't going to BURY Microsoft, it's just going to give Microsoft something to copy and claim as theirs and then the Xbox community is going to go about how innovative Microsoft is and Microsoft are going to convince everyone they're innovative with it--Just like Kinect, right Microsoft? Copying the Eye-Toy. That's just what Microsoft does. If you can't innovate, just steal the idea.

[JeffGUNZ]

Achievements, party chat, Xbox Live, Kinect, Halo, Smartglass, etc. MS has innovated a lot of things, but in reality, all companies start with what is popular and they try to put their spin on it. Look at Destiny, Bungie basically took great aspects of Halo, Mass Effect, and Borderlands and put their spin on it and the game is great. Look how great PSN has gotten with its robust features after they adopted MS's paying for online play and now Sony is coming out with all these cool things which ar enow being developed and implemented with those funds.

Look at car manufactures, cars all do the same thing, but riding a Civic to a Camry, you'll see the manufactures style and take on that product.

Not everything has to be; "well, if it's not brand new and no one has ever done it, then it's a joke."

[chaosx]

I can't see it taking off past the initial "thats cool " phase. who wants to lock up your PS4 so your friend can play a game for an hour??

If they want to play it let them borrow your disc.

[ghostface9]

"Share Play" sessions to one hour each, and lag may unfortunately affect how enjoyable this user feature is. Sounds like a real game changer lol if you could play the whole game with them then its a game changer this is just getting a coop demo which is just pointless

[Pro_TactX]

The sessions are limited to 60 minutes, but there is no limit to how many sessions you can have. It prevents people from going to work and letting their friend remotely play their game all day. It only takes a few seconds to reconnect after 60 minutes.

[akaFullMetal]

Awesome feature, can't wait to try.

[SaveFerris]

Is it a shovel?

Oh, it's Share Play.

MS will likely bring out this feature as well. if anything, MS seem to be adding features a lot faster than SONY.

[Gezmoyassine]

The only feature i can think of is PS1,PS2 BC.

[Artemidorus]

A great feature to have and a plus for any gamer however Playstation will end up sharing indies for now as it offers no decent games.

[TheRedButterfly]

Hmmm... Sounds a lot like that Family Sharing feature that XO originally had that everyone wished away... (Only the family sharing feature was the full game instead of one hour of it)...

Also, this reminds me a lot of this revolutionary new feature of games called "borrowing"... You know, the thing we've all been doing since the NES.

(Hardly a feature that will "bury" any competing platform.)

[kryteris]

"game that is run locally on one system, and then you or others can invite your friends to play that game with you by streaming it to their consoles"

Can anyone here confirm this? -- I'd imagine that in coop mode the quality will greatly reduce, single player view mode might look the same except for the streaming recipient.

[cityboy100]

@jarehart The title of this article just screams ignorance....... The title should have been Sony's new features may put some distance between PS 4 and xbox one.

[immoracle]

Just give me "one-click" party and game invites, and I'll be soooo happy...

[FayZ_]

LOL bury the xbox one? shareplay is limited to 60 mins, and it's only there to compete with ea access, on top of that, it requires you to have a friend who has paid for the game. not saying its s bad feature but it's not exactly a game changer.

sony should really start listening to fans and offering dlna, custom themes, improved UI etc rather than trying to advertise their games. sony has always been bad at software, i do like the ps4's hardware & design but everything else falls flat.

[okmrman]

last time i checked the xbox one has more features than my ps 4

[HappyWithOneBubble]

PS4 buried the XB1 on day 1. XB1 trying to dig its way out but the dirt is too heavy.

[Predaking77]

Well, the x1 is already buried in the shadow of the PS4. It is not like the PS4 needed the update to do that.

[chikane]

I'm ok with that

[PickAShoe]

If Sony integrate trophies to classic ps2 and ps1 games, I would be glue to PlayStation brand forever.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

I'm a bit wary of trophies now, as there is no online trophy support for PS4. Makes me paranoid one day something will go wrong and ill lose them all.
Plus trophy hunting is (sorry, was) the best thing to do while internet was down.
Bring back offline support Sony!

[PickAShoe]

I don't have a PS4, but I don't understand what you meant by "no online trophy support". I can still play offline or online and get trophies for my ps3 and vita games. I gave you a bubble. :P

[mcarsehat]

I bet anyone a hundred quid that Xbox have there version in either the September or October updates.

[xx4xx]

". Still, Sony says it will limit "Share Play" sessions to one hour each, and lag may unfortunately affect how enjoyable this user feature is. We’ll have to see how well the functionality works in practice."

So the article says it's gonna bury the Xbox..... if it works. Um...ok.

P.S. Sounds like Sony could use a little cloud power.

[RosweeSon]

Why use the clouds when you have raw power under the bonnet.

[SynestheticRoar]

X1 already has 1 foot in the grave.

[Knucklez504]

this is such a fanboy article smh share play is so LIMITED its almost pointless. allow a friend to play your game in which you ONLY get ONE hour with only ONE session WOW so amazing. stop hyping this up as if it was ground breaking. hell on ps3 with plus you got to play NEW games for an hour and this isnt that much different. to say its going to BURY the xbox is just retarded

[DaNineTwo]

So i don't think that this feature will bury the Xbox One (bury it even more) but, it is a good idea. Think along the lines of the share play feature for the Nintendo DS. That seemed like a game changer but, in the end it didn't absolutely annihilate the competition. Time will tell and Sony needs to add goddamn suspend and resume.

[xc7x]

I liked the feature until it said only one hour.

[qwerty676]

really cool feature.

but really did he have to go so far as to say "bury the xbox one"

lol i mean common.

[AgentSmithPS4]

Now the people of Earth will get to see my funny BF4 compilations on YouTube!

[RosweeSon]

Sony Has A New Feature Coming For The PS4 That's Going Bury The Xbox One
Well i hope it will teach people correct and proper grammar, you either meant that's going TO bury the xbox one or, gonna bury, going bury xbox one doesn't even make sense but hey ho like to see this new feature that's gonna make my ps4 even better than it already is ;)

[martinlovegoodie]

I think this update on ps4 has me more excited then some xbox connect commands.

[peshkavusCA]

smh

[thexmanone]

Don`t care. For me I don`t think I would like to have someone remotely control my system. It sounds like a hackers dream come true. Enjoy your new feature whenever it comes.

[TimeSkipLuffy]

As an owner of all PS hardware so far I am not interested in Share Play. But I guess I have a different wish list than others for most desired PS4 features...

[illminded32]

Monkey see monkey do,I expect Microsoft to incorporate this killer feature in the near future.
Glad ps4 owners get it first,great innovative feature.

[TimeSkipLuffy]

I would rather have external HD support & mkv playback than SharePlay :D

Wanna exchange? :D

[Macdaddy71]

Bury No, I think share play is bad,..
Thanks Sony our game cost will go up now, in time!!!! Bad bad

[Revengeance]

LOL Xbox drones have selective memories. They keep screaming "XB1 was already going to do it!" and conviently forogt the DRM coming with it.

And that's why they're hypocrites.

[Petebloodyonion]

Share play is a incredible feature and should be welcome by all gamers by who ever bring it the table.

The difference between Sony's and MS view of DRM was regarding how to enforce them.

MS was asking PPL to register ,via a code, your physical copy and giving the power to 3rd party to decide if it was possible to trade the title in the future.

For the online part Both companies enforce it the same way by locking it to your account or consoles.

In the end Kudos for Sony about bringing a great feature and let's hope MS follow suit!

[Avalanche]

i just hope its going to work how they say it is. no restriction no nothing. IT JUST WORKS, and it works with no lag or anything.

[DarXyde]

It's a really neat feature, but I'm not sure how much use I'll get it of it. Don't get me wrong, this is a GREAT idea, but I'm sadly a mostly anti-social PlayStation gamer who prefers local co-op. I'm pretty much a relic from the old days but I definitely won't knock this feature.

It's my fault, but at least I'll have the option if I have a change of heart.

[LamerTamer]

This will require allot of overhead now in the form of memory and CPU etc as it takes extra processing. Does this mean devs will now have even LESS power to devote to the games themselves as the OS will gobble up even more memory/CPU?

Even if you aren't using it won't they have to provide for the ones that do and therefore have to downgrade resolution/framerate/graphics so that it will run with this feature? Is now even less memory available to games? Less CPU cores as some now reserved for streaming feature?

If this adversely effects games (you know why I use the thing) and graphics etc are downgraded because of this extra bloat then that would NOT be worth it. Even lower quality VS an average PC just so some deadbeat can mooch games for an hour would be a terrible idea.

[Jag-T1000]

The ps4 doesn't have a feature that can bury the xbox one.

[testerg35]

Sounds great, but how does this work? Wouldn't this chew up bandwidth like crazy and system resource?

[gigoran]

At the rate Sony is producing these nails, that xbone coffin is gonna be finished any day now.

[Ulf]

Ha ha ha! Now you can stream games from YOUR uplink? Oh yeah... that's gonna be.. something.

When will people get over the stupidity of streamed gaming? If it was cheap -- and I mean dirt cheap -- then maybe the professional services (like Gaikai) would be okay, but it is *never* gonna work from your own console, to your friends, in a decent way.

In any case, it'll never be dirt cheap, because running a huge battery of machines, and buying up the huge amount of bandwidth necessary to stream games out, is just not cheap. It's not like Netflix -- its dynamic content. It can't be cached at your local ISP, etc.

It will always suck, compared to the real thing, no matter what console, or PC, you try it on. Streamed gaming will never "bury" anything -- except the hopes of fools too ignorant about the actual fiscal and hardware workings of the internet to know any better.

[Clown_Syndr0me]

Once upon a time, games had demos. Trying before you buy is nothing new, this is just a new way of doing it.

This way atleast one person has to buy the game instead of releasing a free demo..

[lobocob]

Ugh. The only person who should want either to fail are the people who actually have blood relation to those who run them

[TimeSkipLuffy]

I can see a friend joining a coop session of a game he or she does not own. That is cool and fun.

What I can't see as a gamer is someone taken over my game and continue to play it. I am the type of gamer who wants to play the game from start to finish on my own with no help or video guides or manual. I'm not alone with this because all my gamer friends feel the same. Except some casual gamers who can't beat games on their own but those don't spent much time in gaming anyway.

[pingthing]

And Xbox is getting family share, where selected friends actually get to download their own copy and play it whether you are online or not...I know which solution I prefer.

[rjgbyrne]

I've been doing this for Xbox One for ages, my library is shared with my neice and nephew on 3 different machines! A feature that will bury the Xbox One this ain't! I'm just glad MS have to fight this generation instead of sitting on their laurels... With both consoles having their exclusives, mupltiplats not THAT different and entertainment hubs on both consoles... They are very much the same experience. One thing I am happy about is finally buying a Wii U!! Don't know why but this is on more than my PS4, Xbone & Shita (PS Vita as feck all new games are coming) combined!

[mayberry]

Share Play, plus Playroom VR, plus Sony's AAA games, plus Second screen vita/tablet, plus Morpheus and more to come are incredible. Look up some vids on Playroom VR! I had no idea!

[rigo8582]

I don't see the share feature as a big deal for me. Its not a feature I could see myself using outside of maybe just seeing how "well" it works.

What I do hope the share feature does is make microsoft get a sense of urgency when it comes to the family share.

I hope its good enough to make it where if someone purchases the game they can share with a friend or family with no restrictions on time, and maybe the possibility for two people to be able to play at the same time so they could play together whether its multiplayer or coop.

[Gunstar75]

I think this article was overhyping the impact this will have in the real world.

How can this bury the Xbox One when MS could easily implement something similar, if not better, and probably quicker?

[GamerRetro]

Bury the Xbox One lmfao game changer not the Xbox One monthly updates and features have destroyed Sony PS4 in every way good luck

[lfc_4eva]

I like new features for any console.
However, why aren't people considering the part of the article which mentions lag?

A lot of PS4 owners were very quick too point out, and quite rightly so, that lag could cause major issues on games for XB1. So they basically dismissed the cloud as a joke.

Now we have this PS4 streaming idea. I'm guessing this is pure P2P, which is a lot more problematic than using a dedicated server. Just think back to how often COD would stop and try and find a new host when playing it by P2P! This feature is going to be majorly dependent upon the user's connection speeds. Plus will it be an actual carbon copy of what the host user has on his/her screen? Or will it be downgraded via compression routines to try and limit the impact of upload/download speeds?

Don't get me wrong, I think this idea has some merit. Yet it needs more flesh on the bones before people start ringing out the church bells.

[Adolph Fitler]

Another great feature, beneficial for GAMERS... MS & Nintendo should start taking notes on some of Sony's tactics.. Truly awesome, useful, gamer catering feature.
I hope PS4's sales start really kicking it up another notch, in time for Xmas & beyond, as I really want PS4 to aid Sony getting back to pushing the install base with each new gen (like they did with PSone & 2)...

60-70 million PS4 units IN HOMES, by just halfway through it's lifespan would grossly help Sony obtain more 3rd party exclusive support, not to mention how profits may see them rebuild some of the teams they had to let go, throughout PS3's struggles... I want a Warhawk 2, Starhawk 2, Twisted Metal PS4, Syphon Filter PS4, Medivevil 3, Resistance 4, another 3 Ratchets PS4, The Getaway 3, The Mark Of Kri 2, Socom, Wipeout, Rise To Honor 2, Blasto 2, Ghosthunter 2, Primal 2, GOW:Ascention 2, Kinetica 2, Jet Moto 3, Motorstorm PS4, etc, etc, all for my PS4.... So many great games from Sony, PS4 owners & fans of great games, need to seriously drop the COD, BF, Fifa, Madden & such ARE MY ONLY GAMES, mentality, as so many developers & IP's have suffered over the past years, from mere ignorance & blindness from gamers...

[Apex13]

I have a Ps4 and very happy with it not the way fanboys think its the second coming of Christ.

The feature is great but it's nothing that MS can't copy so why is everyone forgetting this? The systems now look like twins lol. Wii U is the only differentiatter and features will be exclusove for a limited time till the other can copy or find a slight alternative if there is a patent issue.

I'm starting to question the age of gamers in here

[Buzz7S]

Remember when Microsoft had something similar in mind and "insiders" put out that you'd only get 1 hour access, pretty much having anyone and everyone strongly against Microsoft's plan for game sharing?

Now Sony are doing it and all of a sudden it's the best thing since sliced bread.

[Apex13]

@Buzz7s, I actually do and this is very similar to when Nintendo ushered in motion control gaming and people hated but when Sony done it and MS came with the dead Kinect it was now all the rage and acceptable lol.

[shadyiswin]

The stupidity on this site is amazingly at an all time high. Let's clear things up. The Xbox had this plan in place. The issue is there was no time limit,so whats to stop you from going offline after I have let you borrow a game??? Or 10 others I let borrow. Thus a check-in system had to be implemented to ensure single copies of games are not being played on multiple consoles. Why is that concept so hard to understand? Sony has effectively done the same thing but with a 1 hr time limit which eliminates the need for a check in cause either way the game will end and return back to the player.

Microsoft even went off to say you're friend you are borrowing from would not have to be home or online for you to borrow from them. Do not sit and act like Microsoft couldn't put this feature in an update as soon as September if they wanted to. The feature will just be a marketing ploy and go unused. Sony promised this at launch and nearly a year later it's still not available.

Thankfully Microsoft is considering bringing the family share back. If it would require a DRM opt in I'd do it. My Xbox has only been shut down 3 times since launch. It is always in stand by.

This feature doesn't bury or one up anything. Skype,snapping,live TV,useful apps,actual exclusives and no TBA titles is Xbox ones killer feature.

More and more people are seeing the light as far as xbl still the better place to play,still the better controller for shooters,still a better ui and much more intuitive. The Xbox staff has added features I use to think about without asking. Its to the point I request features that I didn't think would be possible now just to see if they can add it. Basically the ps4 is still shit.

[iiorestesii]

The real advantage to Sony's share play well be in all of the local Co op games like Towerfall and Crimsonland it will enhance. Also never play through a campaign alone again. I mean now the choice will be there. But from RPGs to fighters, this will give devs even more progressive tools to make their games distinctively Playstation and also diversify the game development landscape. The sale point of "let your friends play your games for free", while surely awesome, is a side note. The real win is the addition to the player and dev utility belt.

[Mister_G]

That's over stating things a bit.

It is a very cool feature though, if it works properly.

It's based around Playstation Now, so if they can get it working well then it'll be a big boost for Playstation as a whole, not just PS4.

[Apex13]

I actually do and this is very similar situation when Nintendo ushered in motion control gaming and people hated but when Sony done it and MS came with the dead Kinect it was now all the rage and acceptable lol.

[star129]

No what would bury XB1 firmly is backwards compatibility with PS3, PS2 and PSX games with region unlocked to everyone plus media support for all disc formats.

[Keregan]

Lol another idiot sharing his wishfull thinking

[MrCrimson]

Holy shit why aren't the gamers kicking and screaming? I bet you need to be online for this to work....JUST LIKE ANNOUNCED AT XBOX's E3. LETS THROW A SHIT STORM AND HAVE THIS GUTTED. Oh wait, it's for Sony lets celebrate.