Are There Too Many PS3 Ports for PS4? - Podcast Beyond

IGN - In a way, porting games from last generation consoles is charging consumers for backwards compatibility.

[PinkEye]

Starting to be. Let's hope it stops soon. What is PS Now for then if they keep giving us old games we already own?

[admiralvic]

"What is PS Now for then"

PlayStation Now wasn't created to just bring PlayStation 3 titles to the PlayStation 4, but to allow multiple devices the ability to play PlayStation titles without the need of said console. So while porting PS3 titles to the 4 theoretically hurts Now on the PlayStation 4, it has absolutely no Impact on the features functionality on Bravia TVs, PlayStation TV, PS Vita and whatever other devices they port Now to.

[iamnsuperman]

You have understood it. I don't understand why people misunderstand this. PS Now isn't really for us gamers who buy a PS4 and who already have a PS3 (or wouldn't mind buying one). PS Now is for those people who don't want to pay a fortune (console are not cheap) for a thing that plays games. Smart TVs and on demand boxes are becoming very popular. Playstation Now is an avenue to reach out to those people and hopefully bring them across but if not get them to pay for games under the playstation brand.

In tern it helps other failing products like the Vita but the main focus of Playstation Now isn't us. We are being Beta tested because we are the only ones who are likely to try something new in a short space of time. Once the beta is done it will be rolled out to other platforms hopefully learned from mistakes we bring up.

[Enemy]

What's the problem, exactly? Don't want them, don't buy them. It's giving consumers who didn't own a PS3 last gen the opportunity to play some of the best PS3 exclusives on PS4 at higher frame rate and higher resolution. The Last of Us even uses new character models.

[DualWielding]

to be fair the Last of Us is the only one they actually sold, all the small downloadable titles were cross-buy so people who bought them on PS3 got a free upgrade... I don't see why would anyone complain about a free upgrade

[SamPao]

yeah... especially since I did not buy Journey nor Flower. let me enjoy these games on PS4 bastards...!!

[dumahim]

Tomb Raider, GTA V, probably others I can't think of right at the moment.

[incendy35]

I don't think so, it is great for those that missed them, but they do need more original games. My PS4 gets very little use these days.

[FullmetalRoyale]

Dat Plants Vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare doe.

lol I'm poking fun but I actually have been enjoying the game.

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[GryestOfBluSkies]

id say yes and no. new games would be a much better option, BUT most of these ported games are cross buy. the majority of people who were interested in it already bought it and can upgrade for free.
theres also the people who never owned a ps3 who might be interested in buying the definitive version.
for me personally, id rather see new games, but i can also see the reasons that devs would want to port them to new hardware.

[TKCMuzzer]

I don't see an issue, titles like Journey are cross buy so your not really duping existing purchasers and your giving the opportunity for new PlayStation gamers to play some great games they never had the opportunity to.
Some of these games are unique to PlayStation and it's a great opportunity for Sony to show the diversity of games on their system to a new audience.

As long as we don't get pointless 3rd party remasters that were available on all formats then I think it's fine.

In the case of Uncharted, remastered versions would not be a bad idea. I'm sure there are many who now own a PS4 who have never played an Uncharted game and would love the opportunity to play the three previous titles so they get the chance to experience them before the release of the fourth. This may of course not happen as Naughty Dog are flat out on Uncharted 4.

[ncc-017]

Not enough. Keep them coming, more choices are better than fewer choices. If you already played the game just don't buy it.

[colonel179]

I don't like Remasters at all, specially because they are doing them on games that are very recent.

IMO, Shadow of the Colossus & ICO are the only games that truly deserved a Remaster. They are games that were very limited and hard to find because of the time they were released on (specially ICO), and they were gaming gems.

Another one that also deserved the re-release was Okami.

They should make those Remasters for games that are classic and or didn't have much chance when they were released.

For example, if they want to remaster a PS3 game, it should be Heavenly Sword. If they improve the graphics and frame-rate, improve the controls (six-axis) and overall do what they did with TLOU remaster, it would give the game a new life and even become popular. That's a game that was very good, but was released on a very bad time.

I could even say that even LAIR could be remastered too.

It's fine that they do remasters, but should do them on games that truly deserve a makeover.

[SamPao]

that truly deserve a makeover in your eyes? that does not make any sense for anybody but you, right? :)
well thats not very kind of you

[lsujester]

Lair needs more than a standard remaster. It had the potential to be a fantastic game, but the problem with it wasn't graphics so much, as the playability. The motion controls were unnecessarily difficult and unresponsive, the lock-on sucked, and the game required you do to be precise using those. Combine that with a lack of verticality, which hinders a flying-based game, and you have a recipe for a game just not working.

I think a dragon game could work extremely well, but Factor 5's decisions killed it.

Also, I completely agree about Heavenly Sword, although I'm hoping Hellblade will fulfill that desire for me.

[cfc83]

Give us journey and an uncharted trilogy. Didn't have ps3.

[brew]

Journey is coming , announced last week.

[imt558]

Yep, can't wait to play Journey @1080/60fps

Such an amazing game. Short, but amazing.

[uth11]

when nearly half of PS4 owners didn't own a PS3, what's the problem? You don't have to buy these games. It's not like they would have released a brand new AAA in it's place since most of them are still in development.

PS Now is not an option for everybody because of the bandwidth required.

[Sketchy_Galore]

It's a good thing that people who didn't own the previous system can enjoy some of its best games in better quality and I have to admit I bought The last of us remastered despite owning the original, am very happy I did and am looking forward to the updated GTAV.

Having said that, what makes it seem like a bad idea is the ridiculous number of delays and the tiny number of impressive current gen titles we've had so far. So far it has seemed for the most part like we've bought the new system to play the prettier version of games available on the old system and any number of Indie games that, while fun, could have run on a ps2. There are enjoyable games to play on the PS4 at the moment and there are one or two impressive technological showpieces but we're still waiting on that fun creative technological showpiece that makes us say 'yes! THIS is why I bought the system'.

As an example I have a friend I would always play multiplayer with on the PS3 and I desperately want him to get a PS4 so we can start doing the same on that, however I have to be honest when he asks me if it's worth scratching up the money to buy the new system and tell him no, not just yet anyway.

[Drithe]

Yes.

End of line.

[Tex117]

I can certainly understand using ports to fill some of the gaps that have been the beginning of this generation. This, like many other generations, generation has on the whole been pretty weak in game line up.

That said, if developers keep relying on ports, then Im going to be very very irritated. I don't replay games and do not double dip.

However, it seems this fall we will finally start to see some fresh games, even if they are cross-platform.

[stormswrath]

Yes there are too many ports. Can we get new games and new ip's for our new system please. Also enough of this cross gen stuff. If they want to contine to support last gen that's okay but stop letting it be at the expense of our new consoles.

[Rimeskeem]

The reason they have so many ports is because

1. It's easy to do and this has been said by many devs
2. A good chunk of xbox players moved to the PS4 and never got to play the game
3. Some of us never got to play the game even if they had the console
4. It's cheap

[RandomDude655]

Ummm....they are (mostly) free upgrades for very good games. Stop doing things for customers Sony. How dare you!!!???!!!!!????!!!!,?????

[Revengeance]

You call it too many ports coming to PS4, I call it so many great games being remastered for PS4.