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Destiny Beta PS4 vs Xbox One Screenshot Comparison: Many Similarities, Quite a Few Differences

Yesterday night Bungie opened the beta for the Xbox versions of Destiny, finally allowing Microsoft fans to join their PlayStation brothers in the defense of the last city on Earth. This also allows the comparison of the PS4 and Xbox One versions to see how they stack against each other.

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GribbleGrunger3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

Is this a fair representation of how the XB1 really looks? I'm not knocking you Abriael but I was certain MS released a patch to get rid of those crushed blacks. Does it really look that dark on the TV?

Look at these:

http://cdn4.dualshockers.co...
http://cdn3.dualshockers.co...

The crushed blacks bury the detail on the XB1 version ... according to these screenshots anyway.

Abriael3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

It's a bit hard to say, and it could be a bug. There's a darkness selection on both PS4 and Xbox One, so you can push all the way up to bright if you find it too dark.

The problem is that when selecting the first four options (the darkest, up to pretty much middle) the difference between them is minimal. It may depend on the TV, but it looks very dark both on my rig and on the one of my colleague that took the Xbox One pictures.

They actually aren't crushed blacks by the way from what I can see, the average brightness settings just seem to be quite dark.

Like, it has 7 settings. And a dark grey symbol against a black background.

On PS4 from setting 3 upwards I can see the symbol. on Xbox One I have to go up all the way to 6, and the change is pretty abrupt from 5 to 6.

GribbleGrunger3562d ago

Ok, thanks. So basically all XB1 owners have to do is crank up the brightness and both games will look more or less the same.

Abriael3562d ago

I'm betting it's a bug tho, so it might be solved at launch.

NewMonday3562d ago

almost all multi-platform games have the same darkness issue on the XB1, it's not a bug or something new.

nicksetzer13562d ago

Why are people comparing beta footage when we already know 100% that the xb1 beta is old code at 900p and the full release will be 1080p.

marlinfan103562d ago

@nick

because people love arguing about nothing

deathtok3562d ago

@nick

The article does make a point to call that out (in bold) in the interest of fairness.

Eonjay3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

Has anyone notices that Xbox games are darker? Some people actually like that, but to me it just seems to hide details.

Never mind I got my answer. But yest the crushed blacks bother me. How can you even see the platform in the first one? Fortunately if Abriael is correct, they are artifacts of upscaling that should go away in the final cut.

jcnba283562d ago

Why are you even comparing the two when we already know the Xbox One BETA does not run in full 1080p?

XB1_PS43562d ago

I've fixed my crushed blacks on XB1. All you have to do is do the calibration process. Takes 10 minutes, and it's fixed forever.

Mr Pumblechook3562d ago

Digital Foundry have examined the unfinished PS4 alpha and beta, it would be good if they also look at the unfinished XB one beta.

SilentNegotiator3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

http://cdn4.dualshockers.co...
http://cdn4.dualshockers.co...
http://cdn4.dualshockers.co...
http://cdn4.dualshockers.co...

The Ps4 version looks a little more crisp and detailed.

@nicksetzer1
Don't be so sure. Xbone fans have been promised post-beta increased resolutions before *COUGH* Titanfall*COUGH*. The fact that they needed to make the beta 900p at all is worrisome. There could be some performance issues at 1080p.

UnHoly_One3562d ago

My experience was totally different.

On my PS4, I had to take it all the way down to 1 on the brightness scale just to get it to the point where I could "barely see the emblem".

On the XB1, that point was at level 3.

And the PS4 version ended up looking way darker in game than the XB1 version.

mr2333562d ago

After spending a lot of time on the PS4 version, I noticed right away that the XB1 version was darker. I haven't tried to bump up the brightness on the menu yet. but when it is set to the same level on the bar as the PS version, it is visibly darker. You have to keep in mind though, that Bungie said this is 900p and was finished before making improvements to the final product which will be 1080p.

GameNameFame3562d ago

@GribbleGrunger

I am finding more blurriness on texture on X1 version.

loulou3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

I saw the symbol on xbone at no4.. It isn't as dark as your screens on my set

You sound more hopeful than anything silent negotiator that the game will stay at 900p

LonDonE3562d ago

@NewMonday
Agreed i own all 3 next gen consoles (see my avatar pic for proof) which i know technically are not next gen but you get my point, on topic i have the Destiny Beta on both X1 and my PS4 and i noticed the crushed blacks straight away!! say for instance you go into one of the numerous caves dotted around the map which usually contain loot, on the PS4 version it is dark in the cave but you can still see deep into the cave when you look around for loot boxes but on the X1 version i found i was struggling to see the boxes because the caves were just too dark and the black dark parts had no detail ergo the blacks are crushed!

I am not a fan boy yes i have preferences but i actually like all platforms and own and game on all of them including pc.
I also noticed shadow maps dont look as good as the PS4 version,and stairs have more aliasing compared to the PS4 version.

The textures are also more crisp and clean on PS4 which obviously is due to it being native 1080p compared to 900p up-scaled to 1080p.
dynamic lighting seems better too, when in a cave if you look at the exit the light outside goes super bright on PS4 and looks great but on X1 its not as pronounced.
Also i noticed when riding the hover bike on PS4 zipping around you get way less pop in of textures and rocks etc compared to X1.

If they do optimise and get the X1 to native 1080p bravo, but i have decided already its the PS4 version for me.
I have both my X1 and PS4 set to RGB range full and both when running on my Sony Bravia HDTV with the same contrast, etc settings i can clearly see black crush on X1! its with most games but its not that bad but with Destiny its very bad.

k3rn3ll3561d ago

@SilentNegotiator

Titanfall never promised resolution increases. Actually they made a point to say they weren'tpromising it and only mentioned it as something they were looking into but weren't going to promise anything. Secondly there is videos of it out now running at 1080p.

On topic. On my TV I can see the symbol at #3 setting and my tvs brightness is set to level 37 of 100. It all depends on the TV you have. I havent changed my tvs brightness setting in 2 years and its the level I use for all media. The whole purpose of the brightness slider in game is to create the best setting for all varying models of tvs. Its main purpose isnt to give players who like their games more bright an option although that is a bonus. Thats they whole reason why they say to do it until image is barely visible. That way no matter what tv u use, you can set the game brightness to the level the designers think is the best option for viewable.

zero713561d ago

@LondonE - your crushed blacks on XB1 are because you are running your console on Full rather than Limited RGB. MS have never had this right on either the 360 or the One. Like you, I run a top of the range Bravia set at Full RGB and run my PS4 fine on full. The XB1 and 360 crush blacks dreadfully on full but are fine on limited. MS view the limited vs full as setting a black point level more than anything and suggest its trial and error per TV rather than trying to match settings. Your games will look better on limited.

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Eonjay3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

There are slight differences, but for the most part they look very similar with the PS4 having a slight advantage in apparent draw distances, and color fedility.

I have a question though? What is the point of the comparison when the final version of the XB1 will be in an upgraded resolution? Also, I am nervous to see hwo their 1080P version winds up looking. I am kinda on the side of the fence with the people who say go 900 if their is any chance it will affect performance. Then again, I saw a stream last night and it looks pretty solid. In fact it looks stable enough to push for 1080.

imXify3562d ago

It doesn't work like that. If you bump up the brightness, something that was black will become grey, you wont have more details.

Alsybub3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

GAMMA.

If you have an image that is very dark you adjust the gamma. That shouldn't make the image grey.

I'm obsessed with image calibration for films and games. A bit sad, I know.

I've never had an issue with Xbox and blacks. If the colour settings aren't correct then it could be a bit black and especially when set to PC mode which isn't actually correct for a TV, in that mode the blacks ARE crushed.

Interestingly, I found the opposite between the 360 and PS3. The PS3 output a much darker image than the 360. At the end of the day you factor these things out with the settings on your screen. It's the same with different DVD, BLURAY and set top boxes, they're all slightly different and you adjust the settings accordingly.

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VforVideogames3562d ago

The ps4 version looks miles ahead better. no need to compare.

Mr-Dude3562d ago

Offtopic:

Anyone still in need of a Destiny beta code? It's PS4 Europe code...

PM me... First come...

3-4-53562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

PS4: * Tint has a bit more Yellow to it.
* Background items are a bit more crisp and clear
* Slightly more natural lighting.
XB1: * Whites are whiter
* Darks are darker
* Background images are slightly less crisp than on PS4.

Tedakin3562d ago

Just adjust the brightness in the options menu. You'll be fine.

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imt5583562d ago

Well, it seems it is crushed black issue on Xbone. We will see DF comparison soon.

If problem appear on DF comparison, that is a problem.

Abriael3562d ago

Crushed blacks on Xbox One come with the upscaler normally. At launch it won't be upscaled anymore, so if that's the issue, it won't really be there.

Boody-Bandit3562d ago

I will believe that when Destiny is released.
We heard that song and dance add nauseam before that when the game hits retail it will be better than the beta. 9 out of 10 times (and I'm being modest) this isn't the case. The games usually end up being nearly identical, if not completely identical, to the beta.

ziggurcat3562d ago

actually, abriael, the crushed blacks have everything to do with the black level settings on the console.

colour/contrast/brightness adjustments should be done entirely within your TV (and even then you should never have any black levels/dynamic contrast settings turned on).

it's clear that these comparisons generally have the PS4 RGB mode set to Limited (which is actually the correct setting), and the xbone's RGB mode set to Full (or whatever their equivalent term is) which is why you consistently see the crushed blacks on xbone.

it's a huge misnomer thinking that the darker your blacks are, the better the image is going to be. maintaining detail in your blacks is far more important than how deep your blacks are.

MorePowerOfGreen3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

There is no crushed black bro lol. It just seems that way because the PS4 version's blacks are not as inky. XB1 IMO has slightly better lighting/color/textures

The are 99.9 the same even when the XB1 version is not yet 1080p.

You guys are using the crushed black card because are shocked, doing damage control over how on par the two versions are.

@Goku781

"The difference is Destiny was meant to be play on the PS4 even down to the controller"

Game plays like Halo to me. Feels like the game is bringing the Xbox/Halo experience to PlayStation.

Haki11123562d ago

This game has a STRONG Halo feel even look how the enemies dodge while shooting at them it's the same as the brutes from Halo lol

ziggurcat3562d ago

MPOG:

When you lose almost all of your detail in the darker areas (especially seen here: http://cdn3.dualshockers.co... ), yes, MPOG... those blacks are crushed. No one is playing any card, no one is doing any "damage control."

You know nothing about colour correction, so throwing out the word "inky" when you don't actually know what it means does not garner you any more credibility than you already have (which is none, by the way).

Volkama3562d ago

Hmmm it is almost like looking at 2 versions of the same game. Except one version looks good and the other version (that is not on my console of choice) looks totally horrible and unplayable.

thrust3562d ago

Hahaha at that^^ unplayable :/

Volkama3562d ago

A bit extreme? Sorry. I have this pair of "fanboy goggles" that so many people round here wear and I am still getting used to the effects.

Why o why3562d ago

Thats actually quite funny....I did smile... I wish you were so humorous last gen. Us ps3 fans could of done with your morality shield in ALL of those digital foundry and lens of truth articles I tell ya

Volkama3562d ago

As far as I am aware my sense of humour did not change when Sony and Microsoft decided to release their latest consoles.

But "funny" is a subjective term, and evidentally quite a lot of people don't find me funny :)

MoonConquistador3562d ago

@Volkama - Maybe it needs a firmware update lol

Boody-Bandit3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

Okay everyone. It's a wrap. Go home and come back tomorrow. Volkama wins the internet today, at least here on N4G, with

"Sorry. I have this pair of "fanboy goggles" that so many people round here wear and I am still getting used to the effects."

This made me almost spew my coffee on my keyboard. Permission to steal and coin as my own, sir?

+funny x infinity

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hardeepmeghera3562d ago

I'm sorry but it's a little harsh is it not, to label one as 'horrible and unplayable'. It's nothing major after all. Just lil diffrences in color.

ravinash3562d ago

He's making a troll joke.

Boody-Bandit3562d ago

^THIS!

Come on guys.
Lighten up and learn sarcasm. Must everyone poking fun include /s or j/k?

Gaming is entertainment. Sheesh I swear some take this sh!t far too seriously. There are more important things in life to get upset over. Entertainment shouldn't be one of them.

stiggs3562d ago

"horrible and unplayable"

This is sarcasm, right?

hardeepmeghera3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

It's getting real hard to differentiate between sarcasm and extreme fanboyism. Lol. If that's even a word.

stiggs3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

@hardeepmeghera

I would like to give him the benefit of the doubt but this is N4G. So, who really knows? The MAJORITY of comments on this site could be construed as sarcasm.

Sadly, they are not.

Boody-Bandit3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

@hardeepmeghera

You're good.
Fanboyism is officially a part of the urban dictionary.

Fanboyism:
The collective outlook and behavior of a group of people concerning a subject (movies, games, hardware, comic book characters, etc.) which when challenged results in an antagonistic, passionate, and unreasoned response.

Rampant Fanboyism can be found on most internet message boards when such hot button subjects are discussed. You know a fanboy when you see one.

starchild3562d ago

I guess the sarcasm is going right over people's heads.

Gh05t3562d ago

I see what you did there.

Alsybub3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

Haha! That sums it up. Bubble up.

ThePope3562d ago

Haha that was funny bubble up

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Goku7813562d ago

The difference is Destiny was meant to be play on the PS4 even down to the controller. It cross gen for maximum profit and if it make it to 1080p its on due to a by product of that and Xbox One chopping off an arm (Kinect) in order for it to make it up to standard. But if you really look at this game, then look at say Infamous, its not pushing PS4 to the limit.

supergrobi13562d ago

Distiny is a cpu-heavy game, not a gfx demo like Infamous, it pushes the PS4 to its limit, otherwise it would be 60 fps - with ease ;)

impet253562d ago

I can't agree with you. Infamous may be a graphics demo but anybody who knows a little about game development would know open world games are cpu heavy period. Destiny might be more cpu heavy due to its social nature but I dont think it pushed the consoles to the limit. I could be wrong though.

JasonRoseEh3562d ago

Lol at Destiny pushing the PS4 to the limit. Hilarious indeed.

tee_bag2423561d ago

I love how it's running at only 30fps but somehow it's not at the limit.

UnHoly_One3562d ago

Meant to be played on PS4, even down to the controller???

That makes no sense.

The only real quantifiable difference between the controllers (not counting stick placement or personal comfort) is the PS4 touchpad.

All they use the touchpad for is a button. The XB1 uses the "view" button (double squares) for the same function.

If they had a bunch of swipe features on that touchpad I wouldn't argue with you, but they don't. It's just a big gigantic rectangular button.

And since I hate pressing that stupid thing, I'll go ahead and say the XB1 controller layout makes more sense to me. lol

OsirisBlack3562d ago

Controller preference is just that a preference however owning both consoles I do prefer the PS4 controller the triggers feel much better on the DS4 and the sticks deadzone seems to be much smaller allowing for very precise aiming and movement.

UnHoly_One3562d ago

Exactly, you can't say a game was designed for a certain controller unless it uses some feature that only that controller can do.

It'd be like saying a Wii U game was designed specifically for the Wii U pad but it never uses the screen at all.

SideNote3562d ago

Try changing the display output to pc on the xbox. Most new tvs will support it and i was surprised what a difference it made.

Alsybub3562d ago (Edited 3562d ago )

PC mode crushes the blacks for me. On every TV I've used it on.

I do find that most people tend to have their contrast way too high and the gamma set too high as well.

Generally Xbox looks good with 2.0 or 2.2 gamma but it differs from screen to screen.

The thing is , if you calibrate your screen correctly you'll probably think that it looks bad because the contrast shouldn't be high and the colour should be way lower than the factory settings and sharpness often needs to be on the lowest setting to be reference level. We've just been conditioned to think these settings are right but they simply aren't natural and you don't get the full brightness range.

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Destiny Made Over $160 Million In Microtransaction Revenue In Less Than 2 Years

Destiny has made over $160 million in MTX revenue, and these numbers only account the data from late 2017 to early 2019.

Sgt_Slaughter330d ago

That's extremely low for microtransactions, especially for a game that's essentially designed around it

LucasRuinedChildhood330d ago (Edited 330d ago )

This was back when the game wasn't free to play.

The figures are from November 2017 to February 2019 (1 year and 4 months).

Based on that projection, the MTX revenue for Destiny 2 likely would have been closer to ~$240m for 2 years.

Not sure if premium expansions are included in that figure either although ... I'd hope that they are though and that most of the revenue was for actual content like Forsaken.

People spend way too much money on cosmetics.

Rude-ro330d ago (Edited 330d ago )

Seasons($10 and just got bumped to $12) and dungeon keys($10 each, two a year) are through the eververse(micro transaction) store.
So for those two years, in order to play a season, you would pay through micro transactions.

Sonic1881330d ago (Edited 330d ago )

Bungie Marathon will be worse since it's designed around it as well

Kurt Russell329d ago

It makes me sad to agree... but at the same time I am looking forward to giving it a go. Destiny 2 is so far in, I find it difficult to figure out what I am meant to do first.

buffig330d ago

I think FIFA alone makes over $1bn a year from mtx

anast330d ago

FIFA promotes a worldwide sport. It should make more money than destiny.

CantThinkOfAUsername330d ago (Edited 330d ago )

Let's compare something similar. Apex Legends and its ridiculous $18/$40 skins make EA a billion each year.

z2g329d ago

For as much as ppl complain how much they hate microtransactions, they sure don’t act like it. No wonder they aren’t going anywhere.

spicelicka329d ago

By "people" you're referring to millions and millions of people. Obviously the ones complaining aren't necessarily the same as the ones spending all that money.

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Father__Merrin329d ago

There's millions that purchase MTX and there's nothing we can do about it

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Stop Trying To Make Destiny

In Episode 1 of Spot On, a new weekly news show, Gamespot talks about the dangers of chasing a trend.

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Destiny 1 Becomes Playable on PC via Emulation

Playing Destiny 1 on PC has been something fans have been requesting for years. It looks like Destiny 1 is now playable on PC via the RPCS3 emulator.

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spoonard481d ago

I've been thinking about playing through D1 again before it goes away...

CobraKai481d ago

That’s the sad reality of a game like this. I bought it, invested lots of money, and it can go away at anytime. I still think this was more fun than 2.

jeromeface480d ago

prob because 2 is a grindfest slog

spoonard477d ago

That's the bummer of 'games as a service'.