Bayonetta 2 director wants to partner with Nintendo again

Platinum Games' Bayonetta 2 director Yusuke Hashimoto has spoken positively about the studio's partnership with Nintendo, and expressed a desire to do so again with future instalments "if possible".

[Neonridr]

If Bayo2 can sell well enough, I don't see why Nintendo wouldn't want to help fund another one. That being said, if Nintendo is really serious about this, they better start thinking about marketing the heck out of this game.

[Rearden]

Agree, a lot depends on the success of Bayonetta 2.

[JonahNL]

I think it'll do very well in all regions. The fact that they're including the first Bayonetta for free is just... insane.

[gaffyh]

I don't think it'll sell well at all tbh. It'll be like MadWorld, but might fare a little better than that because it is a sequel. Yes its a good game, but I would guess that most people would be happy to skip it.

[bouzebbal]

exactly! all will depend on B2 success but i think the game will do well.
it's always good to secure a good third party exclusive everyone wants.

[DarkZane]

It won't sell well. The first one was on PS3 and 360 and each of them individually had a bigger install base than the Wii U does at the moment the first game sold poorly.

Even though I have a WiiU, I am not even considering this game, not even if it was 19.99$.

[InTheLab]

I'm curious as to what selling well really means. They sold 2 million on 2 platforms with over 80m units sold, so what could Bayo 2 possibly do on a console that has 6m and a long history of core titles selling poorly?

And I'd like an actual answer please....so tired of phantom disagrees...

[gaffyh]

@InTheLab - Fanboys can't handle the truth. It's just a fact that this won't sell as well as the first game due to the reasons you noted, but also non-Nintendo games don't sell well on Nintendo platforms period. Unless it's some sort of casual gimmick game.

I think sales for this game will be around 300k initially (worldwide), and then probably reach 1 million in lifetime sales if it's lucky. MadWorld only sold around 750k LTD, and launched with an install base of over 50 million.

[Concertoine]

@Inthelab

The game sold that much in 2009-2010. The game has received a lot more exposure since then on the controversy of the sequel alone. If a mediocre game like ZombiU can hit 750k than Bayonetta 2 can with good reviews and marketing. It wont be a huge success, but i can see it hitting close to 1 million in its first year. Enough to make its money back, and it caters to an audience previously uncatered to on the system, which gives it potential to move some hardware.

A lot of people said the RE games on gamecube would flop because they were core games not made by nintendo, but they sold pretty well.

[InTheLab]

@Concertoine

Yeah so no one said that about RE on the Cube. That's a bad example as that was the game that persuaded me to buy a GC and I know I'm not alone. That thing won a ton of GoTY awards and still somehow only managed to scrape together 1.5m in sales.

People were shocked by the poor sales. A genre defining 3rd party game of a quality that even Wonderfulmonkeyman can appreciate. I was disappointed more people didn't support the game but that made me realize who Nintendo's primary customer truly is. Mostly children, casuals, and hardcore N fans who are the minority.

Add that to Platinum games track record of selling poorly and I can't say I'm confident there will be enough sales to justify another Bayonetta or one that is exclusive to WiiU.

[randomass171]

You know, Polygon said Mario Kart 8 would only sell 1.2 million units in its lifetime. Some Wii U games could surprise us with their success and who can really say if Bayonetta is or is not one of those games? That's one of the titles that gives consumers incentive to have a Wii U in the first place. I know I'll be buying it. :)

[Concertoine]

@Inthelab

You're laughably mistaken when you say kids and casuals make up the bulk of the gamecube. The wii for sure, but the gamecube was largely nintendo fans and gamers. Truth is, people were sick of RE by the time 0 and REmake came out. Now a game like that is refreshing but back then a lot of people felt the series hit a dead end. That it did over a million at all on a small install base is impressive, and back then capcom considered 1 million+ to be a success (evidenced by their goal to make a game with online functionality that hit a million, which was MH). Both games stand toe-to-toe with some of nintendo's own games in terms of sales with RE4 being one of the best selling games on the system.

I doubt they'll make another bayonetta, but i still think Bayonetta 2 will be a worthwhile investment for nintendo. If not financially, for the additional hardcore game to invite a new audience and the positive feedback from hardcore bayonetta fans like myself who thought theyd never see the sequel.

[N4g_null]

It really depends on if the game is fun or not. Res evil wii version did pretty well.

I skipped Bayo simply because of the frame rate issues and they fighting didn't seem fun. I'm really liking what I've seen so far of bayo2 and Bayo 1 with everything fixed should be fun...

Plus it is getting full dlc possibly at no cost. So we are getting a hd remake for free... and the sequel and dlc... you can't beat that. Then hyrul warriors and x soon after.

[Chrischi1988]

You guys miss the actual point here. It is an IP with a big fanbase. An IP which is exclusive to the Wii U, other 3rd Parties dont sell as good on Wii U for obvious reasons, like bad ports, worse graphics and stuff like that, but this is no multiplat title. It is also not comparable to W101, because it is an already existing franchise.

Then there is also room for improvement for the sequel, just because the first one did not sell as well, doesnt mean they did not change the game on the important parts.

Then you also dont have as many games to choose from as a Wii U owner, at least in that genre, which will make sales even higher.

You all miss these aspects, which hold more ground in my eyes.

[TomahawkX]

They can sort of gauge how well this game is going to do by the preorder numbers which are most likely pretty high after that great E3 showing.

[ritsuka666]

This game wouldn't even be on any console if it weren't for Nintendo. True gamers should be happy it showed up on any console considering it wouldn't even be there at all otherwise.

[Kane22]

lol "true gamers" what is that be the way.......

[OpieWinston]

Fanboys will be bitter about it all.

Platinum games model is amazing, getting this BS Console war to fund their games.

Nintendo/MS will fund Bayonetta/Scalebound

Lets see if they make a deal with Sony.

Considering Wii U will have enough units to push a good chunk of Bayo 2 sales I have faith that'll continue.

By the time Scalebound launches it'll probably sell well with Tier 2/3 X1 countries opened for it.

Platinum Games is really laughing at Capcom right now.

[2pacalypsenow]

bayonetta sold little over 2 million on both 360 and ps3 with over 100mil install base put together i doubt this game will sell well only on wii u

[Kennytaur]

I live in one of those "tier 2" countries, and the Xbox is widely available at stores. Retailers import it from other regions.

[iamnsuperman]

If it sells (especially Wii Us) sure. That would be a safe bet. If it doesn't I doubt Nintendo will invest in a sequel. This is Bayonetta's last chance as an ip. Nintendo seem to be the only ones willing to invest at the moment (hence exclusivity) because it didn't do spectacular numbers with Bayonetta

[BattleN]

If it wasn't so weird I'd buy it but it does look cool!

[MNGamer-N]

How do you know you won't like it until you buy it and try it? That's what you should do.

[MrSec84]

At least Platinum have made the prospects for the game a little better by making it a great value package, with both games being in the box.

Around 2 million people bought the 1st game on PS3 & 360, so while it's not a huge IP it has the potential to do reasonable numbers.

We'll see once it releases.
The game looks nice though, but it is one of those niche titles.

It's good that Nintendo's getting some more mature games & adding to the diversity of their library of exclusives.

[Gamercore]

That's a lot of ifs. Hoping Bayonetta 2 does well enough to warrant a sequel, but I'm not sure if the Wii U is the right system to get the job done (sales wise).

[MilkMan]

Lets see how part 2 sells first shall we?

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

doesn't matter if doesn't sell big numbers as long as it meet Nintendo expectation which are low for games that are new.

[MilkMan]

I didn't know that about Nintendo. Is this policy?

[skydragoonity]

I doubt it will sell as good as mario kart 8, but either way I'm looking forward to playing bayonetta 2

[OtakuDJK1NG-Rory]

no **** Einstein
it Mario Kart lol

[Geekman]

Didm't we know this already? Old news.

[WeAreLegion]

Works for me. I hope Bayonetta 2 is successful enough (and good enough) to warrant a sequel. I'm a little PO'd at Kamiya for being such a tool lately, but still. I'd like to see the series continue.

[iliimaster]

cant wait to see that bowser fist lol cant wait to play this game im gnna play through part 1 again then go onto part 2 to refresh the memory

[shadowraiserx]

why people keep asking the obvious ,buy a wii u stop whining.When they announce bayonetta 2 I save money and I buy the Zombie U Wii U ,now I just waiting.

[DeusEx-Machina]

Whatever. Let's play Bayo 2 first.

[josephayal]

if Bayonetta 2 was a success Wii U will probably get Bayonetta 3, in my professional opinion I don't see that happening

[randomass171]

How is your opinion professional?

[ThatEnglishDude]

I just don't get it. Bayonetta's target demographic, I dare say, do not own a Wii U. Or at least, it's not their primary system.

[thepatientgamer]

I'm a wii u owner, and i will be buying this game. The inclusion of Bayonetta 1 has sold me. Think of it like the metroid prime trilogy for wii. A brand new copy of that game is worth over two hundred dollars, and that's because of the quality of not only the games, but ports as well.
Both Bayonetta and Bayonetta 2 will deliver. This is nintendo we're talking about.
I am SO HYPED!

[Artista]

I was lucky to find a copy of Metroid Prime: Trilogy in the wild for €35, literally brand new.
I had to commute to go get it.

I will buy Bayonetta too..

[Summons75]

MPT is also expensive because they had a limited run on it as well....mostly that reason.

[AJBACK2FRAG]

Dying to play this great looking video game! Nintendo hyped this game hard at e3 and on Nintendo Directs. In my opinion the trailers looked great!!! I think Miiverser's are aware of this game and I'm sure alot of them intend to buy it.

[CouldHaveYelledUiiW]

Sales on this 1st Nintendo Exc. Bayonetta should not matter as much-
It gives Nintendo a more "Photo-Realistic" IP.

This game has more value for Nintendo as a PR piece and an Olive Branch to the "cORE".

If the game does well with the Critics and if Platinum & Nintendo are pleased with it they should make another automatically.

This game may be vital to WiiU and the Next Counsel's satisfying of the "cORE".

Even if B3 does not come out until the Next Counsel,
think of how much good a new Bayonetta game would be for Launch.
Platinum has already shown on WiiU that they can bring the visuals, I wonder what they will do on Nintendo's Next.

[Pedantic91]

You're happy this is exclusive to the Wii U ?

You're happy a third party game went exclusive ?

Imo, buying up third 3rd party exclusives is a shi*** practice.

Imo, i don't believe that Nintendo was the only one willing to fund Bayo2. I think PG immediately went with the first one willing to fund it's development.

We don't know if Microsoft, Sony or any other 3rd party pubs were ever asked, there is no proper source for this.

Oh yes im pissed off, but not because Bayo2 going exclusive to the Wii U, but because it seems that the amount of 3rd party exclusives are increasing rather than diminishing.

And all the hateful comments ? i think it all boils down to fear. If this game doesn't do well enough, PG might simply move on and never work on another Bayonetta game.

It's not because the fans don't like Nintendo, it's because it's locked down to singular platform when it could sell a lot more if it was made across 3 platforms.

Convincing a 3rd party publisher would have been the best course of action imo. But it seems PG was far more concerned about it existing rather than it's longevity.

[Realplaya]

Are you posting on every PlayStation and X Box article about exclusives?

How many 3rd part Exclusives get pulled from the fire?

Buying 3rd party exclusives keep selling PS4's And X Box Ones so if Nintendo want's to join the party then why not.

Your comment is ill timed and misplaced.

[Pedantic91]

Do you see me praising Sony or MS for buying up 3rd party exclusives anywhere in that post ?

3rd party exclusives games on your system does not ensure success im afraid. And that goes to all platforms.

These games would better benefit if they were available on more platforms.

And no, i do not believe my comment is "ill timed" or "misplaced".

Atleast you won't be seeing me defending my console of choice (there is none btw if you're wondering) by replying to every post that might have even the slightest hint of negativity towards your favorite platform.

[KonsoruMasuta]

Third parties were asked. Bayonetta is actually owned by Sega and they decided to cancel Bayonetta 2 and let the series die. They did not want to publish another games.

Platinum said it themselves. The game would not exist without Nintendo.

[Pedantic91]

Then would you be so kind to point me to your source ?

And not the one with PG just stating that it wouldn't have existed without Nintendo.

I want one saying where they asked various publishers for funding.

[CaptainN]

The whole point of locking down an exclusive is to get gamers that are fans of the series to jump ship and purchase the console...as well as make the existing install base happy. Its not a bad practice...especially since Sega left the IP to die. There is no way you fanboys can spin this in a negative light...Nintendo saved the IP from death,end of story. If you like the IP, buy a Wii-U!

[N4g_null]

I understand your anger but these development teams need funding otherwise these games don't get made. If gamers bought more games instead of used games then things might be better.

Some things like kickstarter helps fight against the buying of talent.

[Realplaya]

This game will sell very well on the Wii U all the people who think it won't sell are people who are still salty. This is a game Wii U owners want due to them not having a game like this. I'll be purchasing my copy.

[LOL_WUT]

I honestly hope Bayo2 sells not to mention the inclusion of the first one added in as a bonus is definitely enticing. Only time will tell ;)

[marloc_x]

I'll do my part :)

[LOL_WUT]

I won't not my type of game mostly just looking forward to Smash ;)

[randomass171]

@LOL_WUT Don't you criticize Nintendo fans when they don't support the lacking third party ports? Shouldn't you be supporting Wii U's exclusives since you yourself claim to own one and want it to be successful?

[deafdani]

@randomass: I know for a fact he has a Wii U. He's on my friend list. :P

That said, he's right. If he's not interested on this type of game, he doesn't have to buy it only to support an ideal.

Other people that do enjoy this kind of game, however, should put their money where their mouth is. I'm one of them, and will get Bayo 2 day one if I can. :)

[marloc_x]

That's cool. I have never been a fan of fighters but the unique style catches me, (especially as an unusual N exclusive)!

Have never owned a Smash title and I look forward to taking the plunge with the newest entry..

ps. ^^randomass has an interesting point, so don't hold it against me when I pass on Watchdogs..lol :)

[Roccetarius]

Looking at some of the additions to Bayonetta 2, i don't think i would care enough for 3 either way. Maybe it's a good thing it's Wii U exclusive.

Anyways, i still have the first game, if i want to play it. :)

[daclynk]

HAHAHA!!!! Glad to see lots of buthurts in the comments. i don't understand why some SO CALLED 'HARDCORE GAMERS' are mad about this. They should be happy it exits. when Nintendo said were coming back to the hardcore people didn't take them seriously. Now its happening and people are mad. keep getting mad cause more are coming next is Devil Third. NINTENDOMINATION.

[gamer7804]

Id love to see a bayo 3!

[DryBoneKoopa85]

I'm picking my copy up of B2! Can't wait! Never played the first one so I'm pretty excited to see what all the hype is about. B2 looks really good and if it plays as good as it looks count me in for a B3 or a W102!

[Neonridr]

Everyone who is saying this game won't sell on the Wii U also has to remember that when this game came out on the PS3/360 it wasn't exactly considered a premier title. It was lost in the shuffle of other releases.

Since the Wii U doesn't have a staggering amount of software to contend with it, this game will stand out in the Wii U's release schedule. Which will in turn give it a lot more exposure to Wii U owners.

We might all be surprised at the numbers this game pulls.

[N4g_null]

There is the simple fact that it has none of the issues that plagued the first release.

This is a devil may cry moment if done right.