Junkie Monkeys: Have you been thinking about playing Killzone: Shadow Fall? Amazon is currently selling the PS4 exclusive for a really low price.
It's been 10 years since Killzone: Shadow Fall arrived for PlayStation 4 early adopters, and there's no sign of another sequel.
Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer.
lmao sadly? Are you pretending to have actually played the series lol Sorry bud, no Killzone on Xbox.
They brought out 4 main games and 2 spin offs: one on PSP and one on Vita. That's a decent run for any series. I also understand that Shadow Fall wasn't a success commercially despite it coming out at PS4 launch, and as a big Killzone fan even I couldn't get into it, so I think Sony/Guerrilla could see it was time to move on.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love another Killzone game in the vein of KZ2 but it's just not happening. Hell, I'd even take a remake or remaster of the first 3 games.
I'd hardly say it was "dumped" though, it spanned 3 console generations and 2 handheld generations.
@obscured:”Sadly it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer”
Happily it was dumped by Guerrilla to focus on Horizon games only. Mainline, VR and Multiplayer( edited to reflect the writer true feelings and allegiance)
Kill zone was a FPS far ahead of its glitched competitors with nauseating bad camera angles, 10 years old screaming curses like a drunk sailor and bot aiming assist.
“Sadly”?
The Horizon games were among the best games of all time. Killzone Shadowfail wasn’t.
True, but damn the memories of KZ2 multiplayer. Still no MP as fun as that to this date.
And Sony as a whole dumped the FPS genre so they wouldn't have products competing with COD and (until purchase) Destiny.
I loved the KZ2+3 campaigns and MP in 2. There could be so much more done with the franchise. Horizon although good, I wish they'd go back to this wonderful IP. Take a break from Horizon please.
Agreed dude, I would absolutely love a reboot of the series, one can only hope that either resistance or killzone makes a return.
Have nothing but great memories, especially of the first 3 games, but all 4 were show stoppers graphically.
To making it a successful reboot they have to change that buttons layout! Make it playable like the cod button layout. Otherwise I’ll skipping it again.
And that's the reason why many fps games failed. Instead of being original and catering to it's fans, they tried to make it like cod. No, kz doesn't need cod button layout. It needs to be like it was on kz2 or balanced liked kz3.
I think Kill Zone would do great in Sony's LS push. As well as MAG reboot and bring back Resistance into LS.
Killzone games were so polished. The gameplay was just simple joy. MP was one of the best experiences.
I remember KZ3, just staring at how awesome they animated the water and then getting wasted because of it.
I would love another killzone in the same spirit as KZ2 with the focus on physic, destruction and attention to detail. But logically I know they're not dropping Horizon anytime soon
I want a third game (I really love this series except for the non stop talking from Aloy) then they can do whatever they like.
Overall, I love the series as well. Agreed, Aloy needed to stuff a sock in it. And the writing could have been better. Hated the fact she was so condescending towards the male characters... and of course, several were wrongfully scripted as dolts.
You forgot Resistance as well another great dormant ip that is hibernating. Out of the two I like Killzone but I love Resistance.
Oh yes that definitely needs to be brought back. Honestly I think getting a remake of the first game even would be pretty awesome
Killzone 1 was mediocre.
Killzone 2 was clunky but fun enough.
Killzone 3 was less clunkier and funner than 2. The best in the series for sure. Which is not saying much, but still.
Killzone: Mediocre Fall was a lolfest of wasted potential and absolute mediocrity.
At least the Horizon series is...fine. Lacking, but fine...Yay?
As a primary Playstation user I would've gladly given up Mehzone for Halo. Even Halo Infinite is better than all Killzone games combined. Which is just sad.
C'est la vie.
Killzone played very different to halo, I mean they are fps games but very different all the same.e
I love both series and would love a new killzone & halo!!
For me the feel of the gunplay wasn't the issue, I actually enjoy the heaviness of it, but the game and level design. It was a one note, linear, and mostly boring affair. All around an extremely mediocre FPS. Ever played the game BLACK? Cuz that game was more Killzone than Killzone itself.
When it comes to Shadow Fall, it showed the direction the franchise could've gone and the possibilities but instead it proceeded to fall flat on it's face.
Like I said, Killzone was mediocre since the first one and while I doubt they'll get back to the series, if they do, they have a lot of catching up to do in the game and level design department.
If you ask me Killzone should look at Black and Red Faction for the destruction department and then look at Halo, especially Reach/ODST, for the grandiosity of it all. Or maybe even like a Road trip type game like Metro Exodus with big Open Areas to explore and some of that Cinematic Linear areas in order to appease Sony. there are plenty of great example out there is all I'm saying.
They can keep the heaviness and grounded gameplay intact, but the rest need a comprehensive reboot no doubt.
Black was awesome, as was red faction!!!
It's an absolute crying shame that proper destruction in games digressed rather than processed.
I remember mercenaries which also let you blow up whole buildings which was fricking sickkkkkk!
But yea killzone series wasn't perfect and each to there own but I still love that franchise would love to see it return.
Killzone 3 nearly killed the franchise with it being CODified so to speak. Killzone 2 multiplayer was a completely original multiplayer experience that wasnt found in any other other fps at the time. The Warzone mode was a bit of team fortress and battlefield and was best thing to come out at the time....nowadays if you mention Warzone people just think of COD's Battle royale....ugh....
CODified or not, Killzone 3 still played better than the lagfest that was 2. Which made it an easier and funner time to get through. Again, not saying much, but it is what it is.
As for the multiplayer, I didn't played much of it and couldn't care less to be honest. Multiplayer was just a waste of resources as far as I'm concerned and the last thing they should care about.
There are plenty of games that could serve as a good template or starting point for Killzone, the devs just need to realize this.
I think killzone should make a return I loved them, yeh shadowfall was meh but hey maybe a return means Sony can actually make a trailer that is actual gameplay this time lol
I've been asking for a killzone 2 remaster for years and years and years....nothing crazy like a remake...just a simple remaster.....Same with the resistance franchise....socom..... :(
SOCOM got so screwed with the PSN outage right on release. Granted, SOCOM 4 was still a step down for the series either way but the memories from SOCOM 2 are still so good. I actually got some SOCOM vibes from Factions so I hope that game ends up coming out
KZ2 and KZ3 were really good games, especially, the MP part. The MP part was unique and different, people complained about the heavy movement/weight of guns, and started to compare the game to COD.
Shadowfall, in my opinion, is the worst entry in the series. It went away with what made KZ2 and KZ3 enjoyable and unique. Nonetheless, from Sales perspective, Shadowfall sold more copies because the game was a console launch game.
I hope Sony gets a new entry in series, if not, at least a remake of KZ2.
Apparently supermassive were contracted to make killzone VR for the original psvr however Sony was unhappy with the progress so they took it back in house and it's allegedly being worked on for psVR2.
I really hope it's true as both the franchise and the psvr deserve a high profile release
In addition since cod is now firmly a Microsoft property I can see Sony go back to forming a full blown fps game again to compete Bungie would be an excellent studio for a new offline shooter if they ever get off live service island
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I would love to see it return, but if it isn't a new game, I'm not interested.
Killzone 2 MP was sensational, 3 was great too, shame Shadowfall was a disappointment. Would love to see a return but don't think it'll ever happen, same with Resistance.
The respective studios are (as far as we know) working on Horizon MP and Wolverine.
I'd like a Battlefield inspired Killzone MP game, with dropships and Mechs to boot.
Killzone has always launched with cutting edge graphics, so i'm sure the next will be a showcase.
I feel like once Guerilla realized that the vast majority of people sympathized with the helghast, and the helghast being a very on the nose particular collection of real world references, that realization scared them from ever wanting to pick it up again. Killzone 3 really came off as a deliberate attempt to get people to dislike the helghast with far less nuanced written characters seen in 2. Instead replaced with cartoonish villains. Despite even that people still liked the helghast over the ISA.
I really don't care for FPS games, but I really enjoyed KZ2's multiplayer (campaign was fun too, but the multiplayer was just good, mad fun).
I would say they might want to try to get Bluepoint to remake KZ2 OR let Bungie develop a live service KZ. Why not do some kind of Destiny x KZ collaboration that balances both universes? Could be interesting.
At the very least a remastered collection along side Resistance and the InFamous. It's just strange how they want to forget about or not even acknowledge at all at times about PS2 and 3 Gen games.
Man I fucking loved Killzone, but they really dropped the ball with the story tbh. Still, I definitely wouldn't mind a revival.
I think Sony should hand this over to bungie and say you remember Halo? Do that again with killzone.
I want them to bring this series back so bad, but with the multiplayer style of KZ2. That was so much fun, and I tend to hate FPS. Shadow Fall had an interesting ending though. I'm sure I'm one of the few that actually liked the game.... I also want M.A.G. to come back too lol
It'll be great for Sony to convince their studios to bring back Killzone & the Resistance games. Infamous should make a return as well.
Killzone was a fantastic series. Loved the campaigns, and the mp for 2 & 3 were fantastic! Loved the weighty feel of the guns. Shadowfall deserved more credit than it got. That said, they changed up the mp entirely and it never really hooked me.
Guerilla needs to rebirth the Killzone universe... or have they already?!
Anyone else think there is a connection to the Horizon universe? Didn't an "ark" or two leave earth to escape pre-Zero Dawn? Anyone recall Killzone's brief origin story?
It'd be pretty sweet if Guerilla story-merged these two ips.
If they put some care and thought into a gritty, dark campaign that's well written with an improved version KZ2 multiplayer would be a massive hit. KillZone V for the PS5 could be a monster but we can only imagine now.
One of the biggest releases of the year, Starfield, is days away from its full global release, with owners of its Premium and Constellation Editions already having had early access for a couple of days, and unsurprisingly, the excitement surrounding the space-faring RPG’s launch has resulted in increased hardware sales for Xbox as well.
It's to be expected software especially really hyped software always drives hardware sales and that's a fact! Xbox for many years has been lacking the software side so the hardware sales has always suffered..
We’ve heard this how many times?
“UK Xbox Sales Up 1000 Percent Following Xbox One S Launch“
“Xbox Series X sales increased by with 1335% after the showcase“
“Xbox Series X Saw 1000% Increase In Amazon Sales Thanks To Starfield“
Not hard to have a 1,000% increase when the base number is......... 2. I kid, I kid, but it's cool that they sold a couple of thousand consoles off the back of Starfield.
Well provide links if you’ve got them. Those are just quotes with no source lol
PeterOvo and GamingBolt are both as thick as each other. That percentage number does not mean the Xbox Series X has had an increase in sales of 1,056%. It means the percentage increase in Amazon sales rank; in other words if you look at the picture it actually says the Xbox was at 370 in the Amazon chart and now is at 32 - so a big leap to nearer the top of the chart. However this gives no indication of how many units the Xbox Series X had actually sold, although you can infer an increase. There’s nothing wrong with not understanding something - but it’s very wrong when stupid people make a song and dance because they think they are clever when in fact they are too stupid to know otherwise.
@VincentVanBro
“Well provide links if you’ve got them. Those are just quotes with no source lol“
Done.
“UK Xbox Sales Up 1000 Percent Following Xbox One S Launch“
https://www.ign.com/article...
“Xbox Series X sales increased by with 1335% after the showcase”
https://www.onmsft.com/news...
“Xbox Series X Saw 1000% Increase In Amazon Sales Thanks To Starfield“
https://www.gamereactor.eu/...
Jin,
OK, what is your point? at each one of these points, that was the increase.
"We’ve heard this how many times?"
I have as well, every single time any console gets an increase in sales, again, your point?
@bloop
Exactly. It was at rank “370”, that means sales were very low prior to this state. So 1000% (means x10) is relative to how many were being sold. Also this is a “snapshot”. Its momentary, not over a sustained period of time. Something like this can easily be fabricated by a smart company that holds shipments of consoles and delivers upon release of game. Lets see what the monthly sales say. Will it have “1000%” sales increase? No. It wont. That will tell us how significant the game actually was.
“OK, what is your point? at each one of these points, that was the increase.“
My point is that it only moves the needle for a short period then sales slow again. Meanwhile PS5 and Switch continue selling truckloads.
The metacritic review score for the Xbox version is dropping as well. Maybe they finally added IGN review score on there
They didn't make a good game, they didn't make the game. Starfield was already coming to Xbox.
The only thing MS will see is that buying up the multiplatform industry, locking away games from gamers instead of making them is the way to go.
This doesn’t tell them anything yet. Read my comment above. This is marketing plot.
Not saying good games dont sell consoles. But what Starfield did if anything will be seen once the real numbers come out for monthly sales.
Maybe someone should inform Phil Spencer and make him aware that quality games equals to more sales. For some weird reason this is such a hard concept to understand
I'm curious to what the numbers will end up being at the end of this month. That'll tell the story.
This is only a snapshot. It can easily be fabricated by causing a momentary delay in shipments of consoles for PR purposes. The monthly sales will tell the real numbers.
"Just making great games’ won’t change Xbox console market share, says Spencer..."
What's that Phil?
Market share.
The odd week or two having a boost isn't chaging that. It's not constant.
But if they were to release a few bangers on a consistent basis i.e. Sony i.e. Nintendo don't you think that the market share could change?
I ask because Phil doesn't seem to think it would matter. But it seems to work for the other guys.
So it went from 370 to 32. For comparison the current chart shows FF 16 with a 1,321% jump for 398 yo 38. The jump in Xbox sales over thatv24 hour tracking period Microsoft the jump in FF 16 sales in the given 24 sales change.
Neither should be expected to be massive.
1000 percent of zero is still zero, in case you didn't know... * facepalm *
If you want to poke fun, at least get it right.
He didn’t say they sold a 1000% of 0. At least try to read the comments you’re responding to..
@IamFrasierCrane
Are you serious?
"selling no XSX consoles" is the same thing as selling zero consoles.
A increase 1000 percent of 0... is still 0
Well after seeing a lot of Video reviews on ebay I went out & bought an Xbox Series X just for Starfield & Gamepass.
Of course it did. Xbox players have been starving for a new exclusive for over a decade with a very lacking amount of exclusive titles.
We'll see if there is a sizeable increase when hardware numbers are officially released. Too many times reports like this come out and the actual number end up not supporting them.
so, the 5 sold xboxs on amazon habe now sold 5k across the us.
thats actually not alot haha for the hype this game got.
Terrible article with no research, the comments from that day literally showed how this is just for a very specific region and didn't apply to amazon.com or bigger countries like England, Germany etc, who often only jumped by 200-400%.
And the PS5 digital edition at the same time rose by 3000% in some regions, this metric is way too dependant on flash sales of a product.
Phill Spencer (CEO Intern at Xbox) after Redfall disaster:
"It's not true that if we start creating great AAA games we just start selling more consoles overnight.
That's just not how it works"
When you are selling close to ZERO in some countries and suddenly you sell a few, yes there will be a 1000% increase in sales. Stay in schools kiddos.
When a console is not selling as it should and out of nowhere and is selling 500 more than the previous week of course is going to be an increase. I bet it won't be best selling console for September
By the metrics used there has not been a 1000% increase in Series X sales, but we know there has been an increase. The uptick is a good thing and I hope that this begins a trend of Xbox actually focusing on games. I doubt it, but one can always hope. Unfortunately Xbox wants to be to many things and is a master of nothing.
Sad, if this game does not sell well it's gonna be the talk for months. Get the jokes ready folks.
Xbox sold about the same as it always has a week prior to starfield releasing 100,000. I imagine it'll sell some consoles when it's released but I don't think it'll move the needle to much.
Amazon is celebrating Father's Day, as they have kicked off a new buy 2 get 1 free sale on PS4 games. Here are all the games included.
Is the online community strong? i am a huge KZ fan and would like to give this a try.
Expect this on PS plus soon...
Price matching the hell out of this at Frys. :3
You can buy alot of games in places like CEX.
This is excellent news for those who want to get a good solid MP FPS for PS4. Still playing MP. Games are pretty intense but fair (apart from grenade launcher). I really enjoy playing against experienced teams & breaking their tactics LoL
; )