Call of Duty Advanced Warfare Aiming For Resolution/FPS Parity On PS4/Xbox One, Engine Detailed

"Call of Duty Advanced Warfare was one of the surprises at this year's E3. The game seems to be drastically different from other shooters that are due this year and its reassuring to see Sledgehammer Games putting the series back to its original path."

[F4sterTh4nFTL]

Oh dear, here we go again. Unless they are both 1080p/60fps only then it is OK to go for Resolution/FPS parity on PS4/Xbox One. After that the PS4 should have more breathing room to spare, which could be utilized to up the details and/or effects slightly. Hence on principal the PS4 should look slightly better but they should both run the same Resolution/FPS.

[Magicite]

This game must be 60fps, but then again it must also be 1080p, unless its open-world or bug infested (on PS4 at least).

Then again COD is pretend-exclusive on X1, so parity makes sense...not.

[FayZ_]

900p 60fps wouldn't be bad, i hate any resolution lower than 900p on a large 1080p screen. more importantly i hope they lock 60fps

[HmongAmerican]

@ FayZ_
Do you know that playing shooter online game on big screen causing lag? you may not knowing the lag but its there. Which is why I perfer to play shooter game online on smaller screen like 32's inch and below. Here is the Link to the video that explain it all. https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Chimichanga]

@HmongAmerican That is not necessarily true. Just because you play on a big screen does not mean you'll have more input lag than a smaller screen. It all depends on what model the tv is. My 65" Panasonic plasma has 25ms input delay while a 32" Samsung I have has a delay in the 50ms range in game mode. People need to check test results of input delay on tv's if they plan to game on them. Computer monitors have the lowest delay times but come in smaller sizes than TV sets.

[xer0]

"Call of Duty Advanced Warfare Aiming For Resolution/FPS Parity On PS4/Xbox One"

Basically, they will gimp the PS4 version, to bring "Parity" to both consoles; because the Xbox One is under-powered.

[liquidhalos]

No, that's not what they said, at no point do they use the word gimped. That's just your spin in it. Take it for what it is. A multiplat game for cod fans.

[xer0]

@liquidhalos - Of course that's not what they'll say; because that'd only alienate the PS4 crowd!

Don't be so naive.

[fr0sty]

Exactly. Anyone trying to sell PS4 owners a product would never admit they dialed anything back for parity.

[BX81]

Oh you silly kids never stop do you?

[johndoe11211]

@liquidhalos

You're actually right, that isn't what they said but It's what I'm afraid of. The problem is that if when the game comes out neither of them are 1080p/60fps but they are both equal in lower frame rates and resolution, you can't help but assume that the ps version was gimped.

It has been proven since the beginning of this gen with most of the multiplats that the ps4 is a more capable machine in either displaying higher frame rates or resolution. If this game were to be released and both versions run at the same lower frame rate and resolution then I think at that point we can begin to question.

And to make things worse, Microsoft has been moneyhatting activision for years now with the COD franchise. I think it's safe to say that with all the controversy and sales beating the xbox one has endured by the public and the ps4 brand the past 7 months, they cannot afford to have the ps4 one-upping them with there golden goose franchise.

[MorePowerOfGreen]

The damage control in here is crazy/looney tunes. I think a lot of people misunderstood what was happening with the disparity thus far. How many times do devs and MSFT have to say the XB1 dev tools were rushed placeholders? The disparity we seen has mostly to do with crappy dev tools, 10% of the GPU not used up until now and the CPU still only using one Core(until DX12)

We won't see natural disparity until much later into the generation if at all and by then MSFT's software and servers would have blown any local hardware capability out of the water.

It's crazy the most non pro Sony gamers and media know the XB1 issue was dev tools and then once MSFT starts to fix the issue fanboys blame it on gimping the PS4 version lol.

I hear PS4 fanboys start to use this spin on Destiny as more people talk about parity based on the dev statement. The PS4 version was going to perform better before the XB1 GPU unlock, so how is the PS4 version being gimped?

I doubt the PS4 version of COD-AW is being gimped, the game seems to lead on XB1.

PS4 supposed hardware advantage isn't what is going on, this more to do with XB1 hardware being gimped by its own software not allowing full use of its hardware. I'm not saying PS4 doesn't do some things better but you'd probably see that later on, naturally. Remember CPU controls everything even the GPU(PS4 has a permanent CPU bottleneck as the PS4 dev said)

[iDadio]

I just wasted 2 minutes of my life reading this absolute tripe

[ziggurcat]

@ MPOG:

"The damage control in here is crazy/looney tunes."

you know, you always speak about "damage control" yet your entire post was, as is normally the case whenever you post, exactly what you're complaining about. are you admitting that everything you've written here is crazy/looney tunes?

actually, devs/MS haven't even said a word about whether the tools were placeholders. only you, and the rest of misterx's followers on this site have been arguing that they are/were. and to argue that those tools are selectively doled out to the studios is ludicrous. all devs have access to the all of the same tools at the same time.

and if you think that only *one* core of the CPU was being used, then you're horribly delusional... but i guess whatever makes you feel better about the disparity...

[Ol_Boy]

@Morepowerofgreen

Your posts always sound like you live in a parallel universe lol

[SaturdayNightBeaver]

Dat "one core, until dx12" made me cringe. If X1 used only one core , it wouldn't even be able to run minesweeper effectively .

[DoesUs]

@MPOG. LMAO! One core you say? Everything so far on XB1 is running on one core? Holy mother of god! I see you've been drinking the Mr X Media Kool Aid again. Your wall of text is awesome, and so incorrect i feel sorry you believe what you type. Classic multi account POG. Never change, you bring comedy to N4G!

Both CPU's are THE SAME, aside from the fact that one runs a wee bit faster than the other, however in real world applications the PS4's CPU is more efficient given the PS4 has less overhead to contend with. Shall we talk about the large disparity in GPU's now, and how software isn't going turn into some level playing field scenario?

Good god man, lay off the crack!

[jessupj]

That dirty word "parity" is back. I thought it was gone for good, but it seems to be slowly creeping back. I real shame.

Hopefully, if the resolution and fps are the same, the PS4 version is improved in other ways such as better lighting, higher textures, longer draw distance, etc.

If parity really is attained than it will be a rent for me. I will not support a developer that purposefully holds back a version of their game just so the other side won't get annoyed.

The problem with that strategy is, now I'm annoyed.

[MonstaTruk]

THIS so much. PS4/PC owners shouldn't enable Activision and this type of "parity" behavior. People paid good money for their gaming machine of choice. They deserve all the graphical goodness that system can muster, ESPECIALLY PC. And Xbox One owners can continue getting...whatever it is that they've been getting... :o

[ITPython]

Lovely, even though this gen the PS4 is dominating the XB1 beyond belief, somehow MS still manages to get their dirty little fingers into the publishers/developers pockets to gimp the PS4 version (more than likely). I bet the PS4 version will also be bugger and less optimized than the XB1 version.

Last gen MS was able to get away with this because they had the sales advantage and the PS3 was harder to develop for. But this time the PS4 has the sales advantage AND is easier to develop for, yet here we are still being royally screwed over because of MS's corrupt and dirty business practices.

MS is like a child with the mentality of "If I can't have it, nobody can". It's nobody's fault but MS's that they created a weak underpowered console and didn't do their homework, and because of this everybody else has to suffer for their mistakes because they have the money to pay for parity.

[XiYakushijuAkeginuXi]

Don't care what resolution this is unless the game is good. Then I will see which version is better to get

[mikeslemonade]

With the competition of current gen gaming sometimes it requires a smooth and sharp experience to be a good game.

What 2pac said below me is true. The ones in denial are disagreeing with something that's basically a fact.

[2pacalypsenow]

so ps4 version will be sacrificed to be on par with the xbox 1?

[G20WLY]

Yup. :(

Looks like our old 'friend' Parity is back to gate crash the next-gen party.

And he STILL hasn't washed... :/

[irepbtown]

Ahhh yes, the developers saying they want the 'same experience on all consoles' nonsense. I remember Bungie saying it with Destiny, only in that case it was because of last gen that this gen suffers.

[Hardcore_gamerxbox]

Lol I do love Sony fan boys no devs gonna do that they mean Xbox one version will be 1080 p too they haven't said they gonna sacrefised ps4 version read before saying something

[kdmai5z]

But it's going to happen.

[BX81]

Or could it be the devs Vision of the game isn't something meant to push the hardware of a console to the max. I like how parity means one version gets gimped over the other. Not every dev thinks making a fun today game means maxing out at all times. That's redid to assume. If this is the case then the console versions are gimping the PC versions. Play the game or don't but stop crying in the mean time.

[MonstaTruk]

I'll put it to you like this: COD Ghosts on PS4 was 1080p/60fps. If it's not that this time, then...you know who got the big payday. Plus, all the bugs and frame rate issues with the PS4/PC versions, it almost seems like a sabotage job. Sad...

[sungin]

http://i.imgur.com/rbqnIZJ....

[Swiggins]

Hey dude, I think you got some mustard on your race.

[DJ]

It's just not going to happen. PS4 has more GPU units and double the memory speed. The XBO version will probably be 1080p as well, just with a lower framerate and reduced graphics quality.

[imt558]

I think both version will be the same. Probably decent percentage of more GPU power on PS4 will be UNUSED!

Shame! Fu***** parity!

[jackanderson1985]

pretty sure they'd drop the resolution for a higher framerate seeing as the whole COD series is a twitch shooter that relies on a high framerate

[xYLeinen]

Because Microsoft asked them too of course, and probably payed a lot..

It would be revolutionary if majority of CoD games would sell on PS4 rather than Xbox One..

[Bathyj]

Relax guys, I'm pretty sure ps4 with be 1080p 60fps, not hitting that would be a step backwards. they're just saying they want Xbone to be too.

[aragon]

If people read the article they would know he said they have always aimed for parity so I doubt they will hold back the ps4 considering ghost on ps4 was 1080 and xbone was 720 if they have always had parity in their games, I think they are just trying hard on the xbone version to get it closer to 1080 than to 792p

[Moncole]

Ghost could have easily been 1080p on Xbox but it was a bad port that the devs didn't care about also the game has bad graphics at every resolution.

[Mr_Luke]

1080p@60fps = parity is ok.
Otherwise... damn...

[hugogs]

There is more to graphics than that but yeah I hope they dont hold the ps4 version back

[windblowsagain]

I watched the vid the other day of xboxone version of COD. showing the fps.

It was anywhere between 38-60fps. Looked ok.

If they get it to run 60fps solid on xboxone then PS4 will run it with ease.

[MasterCornholio]

They might look the same in terms of resolution and detail level but will they have the same framerate is the real question.

[snookiegamer]

COD AW runs at 880 resolution on Xbox One. Unless they can make COD AW run @1080/60fps or close as possible, this isn't cool. Surely, they should be making the most of both specs.

After reading MS stated Xbox is the home of COD, I can see MS having a problem if this game runs better on PS4.

Nothing against X1, but are they really going to under-utilize PS4 hardware so both are evenly matched? Really Activision?? If so, they may as well make this series exclusive to Xbox One.

[cruzngta]

XB1 is a much better machine now than at launch. The new updated sdk's, devs working more with the esram and the 10% gpu reserve unlocked all factor in to them being able to more consistently hit the 1080p mark. That being said, PS4 will still have the crisper graphical version of COD:AW. The machine's power just makes it possible. No argument there. XB1 should get 1080p or at worst 900p/60fps. Either way it will be a big improvement over Ghosts which was a launch title and still looked and played good on XB1. The reason they went with MS as the platform for COD was either the superiority of Xbox Live (fact - cant argue that even though I think PSN has come a long way and I love it). OR like usual MS reached into their deep pockets and paid for it which is pretty low and desperate. Either way I am hyped for this game and will be getting it day one. In the end I hope both machines hit 1080/60 so everyone is happy and lets hope this COD gives this series a much needed boost becuz it needs a fresh new start. I hope it does what COD 4 did for the series when that released.

[gamertk421]

Preach.

[Moncole]

Both will be 180p60fps. This game isn't demanding and the only reason Ghost was 720p on the X1 because it was a horrible port on every system.

1080p won't magically make this game look better, this game would look horrible regardless because the horrible textures and graphics.

[DanzoSAMA]

Why Everyone gets angry when Games looks well on Xbox ONE ??????????????
Shame on you guys.

[hugogs]

Its not about looking good on Xbox, it's about the PS4 version being held back so they can be equal....wich they shouldn't

[Eejanaika]

cause most people on this site only have a sony console.

Then on top of that. they dont stay on their own articles.

so yup. shame on them for spreading fanwars.

[Goku781]

Theres that curse word (parity) along with home at Xbox One. Translation for the blind and ones that refuse to see the truth, MS did shady deal, thats why they are touting this home at Xbox One along with parity, and being the default competition system. Business is business but these are more fine examples of MS shady business deals. I would respect them more if this was the peoples systems and was chosen by us the players vs MS trying to buy all these so called titles, the default system for competition, the official console of the NFL. Come on really? That's why Xbox One feels like it has no heart no soul, no creativity. Only underpowered specs with bought out franchises and business deals to try to keep it relevant.

[Majin-vegeta]

Looks like im gonna pirated this game.No sense in wasting my money on it.

[Hazmat13]

well cod has been known to be 1080p and 60fps but all i care about is the gameplay and story. I'm pretty sure my opinion falls under fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me....... but just slap a big ol EH on it. ima buy it cause the story looks cool so far.

[jacksfr1]

xbox one version runs at 1568x882 with variable framerate averaging @45fps. Source http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

[Nine_Thousaaandd]

It's buisness, good marketing (shady deal...cough cough) on Microsoft's half. They announced DLC first on Xbox One back at E3, so of course parity will be in the mix.

Now I'm not trying to bash Xbox, but Xbox thrives on 1st person shooters. The media along with Microsoft hyped the hell out of Titanfall to push Xbox One, and they failed.

Halo Master Chief Collection, no doubt this will be a fantastic collection for Halo fans...but not enough to close the sales gap to PS4.

And now, we have the next Call of Duty coming this holiday season. DLC announced for the Xbox One first, and now parity to keep PS4 in line with the Xbox One. And I'm pretty sure there will be a CoD Xbox One for sale as well with 2 controllers and the game included!

They need Call of Duty to be very successful more than the MC collection. If Call of Duty succeeds, this could be the push they have been looking for all year.

Devs have already said, they prefer the PS4 as the lead console...and the majority of them will be playing at home with family and friends on PS4 as well. It's very clear now that the PS4 will be held back because of parity with Xbox One. I guess parity is here to stay in this generation as well!

[scotmacb]

Its actually the ps4 version thats holding this game back if it was just made for x1 they would use the awesome azure servers from MS but no we have to make it equal so ps4's seem's ok and use old crappy psn

[hugogs]

Its this a joke or very bad trolling??

[scotmacb]

Titanfall uses the azure servers and its awesome psn has no such servers just the old p2p

[CernaML]

Yup! Gotta love the power of the cloud!
http://www.slashgear.com/ti...

Online only is teh future!

And lets not forgrt how Microsoft's AMAZING servers broke a large chunk of the internet! :D
http://www.businessinsider....

[MasterCornholio]

"Titanfall uses the azure servers and its awesome psn has no such servers just the old p2p"

Azure servers= dedicated servers.

PS4 has those for example FF14 uses dedicated servers instead of a P2P system.

Next time do your research before trolling.

[Master-H]

Parity ? laame, if the game is any good will make sure to pick up a used copy.

[mogwaii]

This shit house, played out, been there done that game will not be 1080p/60fps across the board and we all know it.

[Father__Merrin]

ps4 game will be gimped like a chimp for parity reasons, I can imagine them lowering detail etc to get same resolution on both

[PrinceOfAllSaiyans]

I will never spend 60 dollars on a COd or BF game again. But this is good new for both PS4 and X1. Unless one of me is gimped. I just wish it was easy for all games on both PS4 and Xbone like they promised us before the console launched.

But look at a games like MGSV GZ and MGSV TPP if those can run at 1080p 60fps then I think every PS4 game should be able to run at 1080p 60FPS. I'm not a framerate and resolution kind of guy but I believe 1080p 60FPS should be the standered. Look at Uncharted 4 they are aiming to make the game look better than it did on the trailer all at 1080p 60FPS. If MGSV, TLOUR, and Uncharted 4 can do it so can every other game.

[dazzrazz]

Dat E3 882p 30-50 fps footage mmmmm http://youtu.be/itNFYTmXTw8

[XtraTrstrL]

They really are making it easier for people to walk away from COD nowadays. They suck so bad that they might as well have gone for parity on Ghosts also. It would have probably performed better on PS4. Considering they just seemed to have ported the X1 code and then upgrade it to 1080p unoptimized, figuring the PS4 should handle it. Infinity Ward and Treyarch dev teams both seem to consist of less than average coders. I mean, there's so many glitches in the COD engine that have never been removed since COD4:MW. I mean, the shaking screen glitch that happens super often, just when you run and stop or go prone in random spots - is the most annoying crap ever.

Then you have the endless other issues like the framerate being all screwy, the performance is just disgusting. Ghosts has the worst form of tessellation I've ever seen, you see it all over Stonehenge with the mountain sides changing shape right before your eyes as you move closer 'n further from them. If you've ever been playing Ghosts on PS4 and hit 'home' to scroll to another app, it is so clunky. In other games, during certain parts of the game it can cause a little hickup here and there if you go to the dashboard. With Ghosts, it's like constantly eating up all the CPU load, so everything is clunky, which is why I think video saving gets screwed up even more consistently with COD.

When I hit 'share' in a game like Towerfall:Ascension the 'save vid' and 'save pic' pops up super quick. In COD it takes forever and has a higher chance of the video not recording. Maybe Sledgehammer will be different, but Activision won't, so even if they are better coders - they'll probably be rushed. So, it'll be hard to be as glitch-free as it can be with a greedy company like hAcktivision behind you.

[CervantesPR]

PS4 downgrade confirmed

[IQUITN4G]

Considering the majority of folk here constantly bang on how bad Cod supposedly is, why should any of this matter anyway

[Silly gameAr]

It's not about COD. It's about devs not working with what they have for the sake of parity.

[Spotie]

To add to what Silly said, is bad decisions like this very thing that make people hate the franchise in the first place. It's not out of an innate desire to hate Call of Duty.

[Rydro]

What a game... All COD are the same! C'mon, just new maps/weapons and sound effects. nothing new or exciting at all

[turdburgler1080]

Sony defense force *prepare to commence Xbox one can't get 1080p 60fps bombardment*

[CawMasterX]

I stopped playing COD after MW2. It went downhill after that but I will give BO2 credit for being fun to play. I am interested to see what happens with the whole parity issue when it comes to the game. Hopefully one version doesn't get dialed back to accommodate the other. That would ultimately become controversial and really hurt all parties involved.

[paddy95]

I just hope they don't gimp the wii u version due to the weaker ps4 and xbox one. I can't wait for 4k at 120fps in 3d.

[RichardDawkins]

I'm gonna be annoyed if the PS4 version is nerfed. In essence it should be better. I have a feeling a shady deal went down.

[FFXI101]

I think we need to focus more on the game play than the frame rate or the graphics.
Because ever since CoD MW2, the series is going downhill. Is pretty much the same $hit over and over again. I play CoD MW and MW2 because both games were fun to me, two of the best shooters ever(CoD MW and Rainbow Six are my top two) I played them because they were fun to play, then I only play it because It was fun to play with friends. Now, I no longer care about it even if some of my friends are still playing it every night. I refuse to pay $14.99 for the DLC and 59.99 for the pretty much the same game I paid for years ago.

[jay2]

Good you've made all these advances, but it's obvious it's not going to run/is being aimed to run at 1080,30/60FPS or that would be the responsive. From that comment I'm absolutely certain it wont be a 1080P 30fps game.

[SaffronCurse]

I hope this parity bullshit will stop this gen. Use each console's strengths instead of gimping one version.

[Minute Man 721]

Is this game still 9 vs 9?

[JMyers]

I think the PS4 version will be gimped for this parity...

Also with the advertising deal, showing the game play only from XB1 with the marketing plan... this only makes it harder to believe that both will be equal for parity.

I think both will be 720 or 900p, with the PS4 capable of a bit more.

[Sadist3]

All you idiots arguing on here guess what? COD is coming out for both systems and if they're bringing parity to both systems then your complaining won't stop it. And if by some miracle they gimp the PS4 version then too bad. What are you going to do about it but cry? Looks like you bought a system that they're going to gimp for another system. Deal with it.

[Slick81]

If it's 1080p 60 fps how is it gimped on ps4

[thexmanone]

Wow the PS4 fans are just crazy here. They come up with anything they can to make the PS4 seem better. Why so insecure. Just enjoy the system you prefer and leave it at that.

[Thomaticus]

Good News is... I don't have to buy this game. I have no problem skipping it. Every time a developer speaks about "parity" gamers save 60 dollars.

[Nicominoru]

All I see is them talking about gimping one version of the game for another one. Gee, I wonder which one it will be...*cough*PS4*cough*. I seriously tire of Activision's shit...and Ubisoft too while I'm at it. Japanese developers need to start making new generation games asap, I'm tired of the EA/Ubisoft/Activision cycle of excuses and bs swarming around my new gaming experiences.

[marcofdeath]

PS4 is going to hold back XB1.
1.We worked with MS for 3 years.
Same as FMS5.
Remember that Sony mandates 1080p MS dose not.

[Tedakin]

Hey, maybe if fanboys didn't make a MASSIVE stink every time there isn't parity.... companies wouldn't worry about parity and do things like this. Just a thought.

[MegaMohsi]

Could careless if they're both 1080p/60 fps if the game sucks. Ghosts was 1080p/60 fps on PS4 and the game was terrible, I don't play graphics or framerate.

[Many-hat5]

I'm hopeful that parity in this case will mean 1080p and 60fps across all platforms.COD isn't known for detailed textures etc. Pretty graphics sure, but it's not like we need to see every detail in the enviroments as we'll be too busy getting shot at! Cod is,after all,essentially an online FPS with a single player tacked on so, scutiny of the the detail is less important than for other games, don't you think? Anyway, putting my objective hat on for a moment leads me to assert that the PS4 is the stronger platform,from an hardware prospective at least.I suspect all this really means in this case is that the game will be produced to the limits of the lowest common denominator - the Xbox1. That isn't a slur against the Xbox,since the game is likely to be pretty much identical,but it does mean the PS4 will be less stressed ,and therefore, all other things being equal,suffer less hiccups. I don't think we should assume parity=gimped. Of course,we all have an opinion which by it's very nature is subjective,but to be honest I'm more concerned about the lack of quality on both platforms, currently.