Xbox One sales pass 5m units as PS4 hits 9m, report claims

A new report has seemingly confirmed some updated sales data for both PS4 and Xbox One.

UPDATE: Microsoft has clarified that Harrison was referring to the previous 5m shipped figure and was not citing new numbers.

[NextLevel]

The gap is bigger than you think. Like I said, Xbox One sales have slowed to a crawl after a impressive launch. The gap keeps growing, no matter how bad people don't want to think it is. Keep in mind this is after what has been view as 2 price cuts/adjustments.

@GTgamer

Exactly, they haven't even crossed 5 million, something the PS4 did a long time ago. So much for momentum. Here is the quote.

"UPDATE:Microsoft has clarified that Harrison was referring to the previous 5m shipped figure and was not citing new numbers."

[US8F]

Compared to the same time frame of a console release last gen, I believe both are doing really good. Good on them. Both fans should be happy that both big companies got humbled and released/adjusted machines that tailered to both fanbase.

"Claps"

[Godmars290]

Still, as MS had well over a year's lead worldwide, there was nothing but, "We're #1!" BS from a certain fan camp. Nevermind that the Wii soon outsold the 360 or that the gap with the PS3 began to shrink.

Also, while Sony got humbled by one off-hand remark, a bad covert move to manipulate devs and publishers, then an overt one which caused them to take a finical hot and loss, MS's mistakes were only obvious and in your face. Where Sony knew where they had messed up, MS still hasn't to a few degrees. That's why they're still fixing - and still causing - their problems.

[nicksetzer1]

Phil harrison was still referring to the numbers from months ago most likely, not to mention it is sad you guys get so upity with yourselves about sales of a console you have no stake in. As long as the console manufacturer is happy with the sales (not to mention selling more quickly than last gens ps3 and xb360) that is all I care about.

I am glad PS4 is doing well, also hope the same goes for the other two. Unlike some in here who don't even like their console of choice they just hate everything else... I truly believe some of the people in here either don't even own the consoles they claim they do, or just bought them to brag online about it...

EDIT: hmmm, who would have guessed, he was referring to the numbers from months ago, not that that will stop some from patting themselves on the back in here.

[amiga-man]

Xone sold to consumers or sold to retail? there is a difference

It's seems sold to retail, oh well

[Eonjay]

UPDATE: "Microsoft has clarified that Harrison was referring to the previous 5m shipped figure and was not citing new numbers."

And then proceeded not to give new numbers.

Then again, there is an obvious reason why they don't give numbers. Every time they give a figure, Sony fires back with even more so, they are kinda between a rock and a hard place.

[ABizzel1]

@US8F

Actually the XBO has been selling worse than the 360 as far as year one sales go from January - January. The XBO only wins if you include the inflated launch numbers, meaning from November - November, which the XBO sales benefit comes from the success of the 360, meanwhile the 360 had to launch off the misfortune of the original XB.

The PS4 outselling them is only one part of the problem. With their current sales they're actually on target to sell worse than the 360 did at around 60+ million consoles sold vs. 80+ million.

But the good news is we're only 7 months in, there are great games coming for the platform (bad new all platforms have great games coming), the WW launch for XBO still hasn't happened and should give it a minor increase (360 vs. PS3 JP + RoW sales were 10m vs. 21m, which is why people say the boost won't be a major increase for XBO), and there will be bundles and price drops to make that final total sales number jump with each year.

It's not over for the XBO, but MS is wise to try and fix things ASAP, because they were in trouble for a moment.

OT

Based on my numbers the PS4 should be around 8.5m, and should surpass 9 million in sales by the end of July / beginning of August. The XBO, should be on it's way to passing 5 million around that time as well.

[Rickgrimes95]

Us8f
There's no room for rational thinking here my friend. Fanboy bias only

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@US8F I agree.

Congrats to Sony for some very impressive sales still goin strong. Hopefully X1 sales can get up there. The price cut and the exclusives this year should help it.

Grats to both especially Sony.

[FATAL1TY]

PS4: 9m+

xbone: 4.6m

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[bouzebbal]

5M X1 shipped! ouch....

[LonDonE]

@FATAL1TY
I think your name captures the moment perfectly! LOLOLOL FATALITY!! FLAWLESS VICTORY! but on a serious note, the X1 is a great console it just needs time while the PS4 is a even greater console! even the WiiU is damn great, and trust me i know i own all 3 and game on all 3 and LOVE ALL 3 of the current gen consoles!

But i do think M$ need to do some thing and quick, the gap is getting bigger and bigger and once Sony start dropping the big first party exclusives the PS4 is going to break records i tell u!
Its a good console i just think M$ need the bite the bullet and make it substantially cheaper then the PS4 because most core gamers know that the X1 is a inferior console to the PS4 and so rightly should be cheaper! M$ should have left the kinnect in the bundle and made it cheaper they are not hurting financially like Sony is and so can take the hit so in the long run they will get it back!

Its still way to early into the generation to call it, people should not underestimate M$ they have DEEP POCKETS! i think the bad press they got over the launch of the X1 has effectively killed the brand for gamers! and casual gamers are not bothered by kinnect, just like with the wii to wii u casual gamers have moved onto tablets and smart phones.

Its one of the reasons why i will always have love for Sony they have always put the core gamers first!! its going to be a interesting generation.

[tuglu_pati]

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[mikeslemonade]

After the Titanfall bundle and the 399 sku the sales are pathetic for the X1.

[UltraNova]

I wonder how many ps4s Sony has shipped to retailers...

When they announce the 9 mill mark they should take a jab at MS by giving a shipped number as well! I love when major companies take jabs at each other!

Remember the ads - Apple Vs MS 'why is pc/mac or windows/iOS better' ? Priceless!

[GTgamer]

"UPDATE:Microsoft has clarified that Harrison was referring to the previous 5m shipped figure and was not citing new numbers."

MS has not surpassed 5 Million yet

[jjind]

And you know this how again??..

[Nekroo91]

Jiing because if it is 5 million shipped its impossible to be 5 million sold to consumers. because they are in stock eveywhere

[98xpresent]

It's now updated

[zeuanimals]

No way they're not passed 5 million yet. They had the freaking Kinectless bundle drop last month. If that can't even move 1 million...

[GTgamer]

@jjind
Because I actually clicked and read the article you should try it:/.

[KinjoTakemura]

To be fair, Phil Harrison says that sales of the Xbox One are just over 5 million units;

"Asked about bridging the gap between the two console's sales figures (Sony report 9 million PS4s sold*, ^Harrison says Xbox One's figure is "north of five million^) he says: "Some analysts will suggest that we are less than 5% into this generation, so there is plenty of market opportunity ahead of us."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/mi...

[MysticStrummer]

@Kinjo - That's the same interview this article is referring to, and it's been updated to say that Harrison was referring to the same 5 million shipped number that came out before E3. It wouldn't surprise me to find out the number sold to consumers was still less than 5 million.

[tuglu_pati]

@GTgamer

I Also read the article... Where did you get "MS has not surpassed 5 Million yet"?

just wondering

[GTgamer]

@tuglu
Well I'm pretty sure if they had Passed 5 million Harrison wouldn't of been referring to the ship in numbers don't ya think.

[u got owned]

@GTgamer

You are pretty sure.. Yeah that's all i needed to know

[tuglu_pati]

@GTgamer

Well your gut feeling doesn't mean what you are saying is true like you are making it to be.

[GTgamer]

@yougotowned
@tugla
Okayyyyyyy well if you guys could tell me why Harrison didn't announce new figures but choose to talk about the same five million that was shipped months ago I'll say they surppased five million :/ until you give Me a valid reason I'll stick to my evaluation just know that if MS don't announce that they surpassed 5 million in the following weeks then they didn't :/ and I never said take what I wrote as fact but hey that's not my business http://thehypetvshow.files....

[Clogmaster]

So much denial here.

Shipped is < or = Sold to Consumers

Therefore, If Shipped = 5 million,

Then, Sold to Consumers is < = 5 Million.

[Seafort]

It's impossible for MS to have sold 5 million console to consumers.

They've only shipped 5 million to retailers so they can't sell more than they have shipped unless they are off the back of a lorry :)

Sales of consoles is kind of important for gamers as this determines how much support each console gets from publishers.

I mean look at the WiiU small sales and draconian policies and they get zero support from 3rd party publishers.

[ArchangelMike]

Who was it that said, "the first console to reach 10 million will dominate the generation..."?

Well I guess by the Christmas Holidays the PS4 would have reached 10million units sold. A very good achievement indeed. I wonder if there has been a console that has reached 10million sales within the first year? It might be a new world record o.0

[SpinalRemains138]

Christmas? PS4 will hit 10 mil by September.

[TheTwelve]

PS4 north of 12 million by January 2015

[blackpanther25]

Yup that destiny bundle is going to sell fast.

[MeliMel]

Just like you to put up a stupid article about sales and talk gaps and such. Or just so you can shit on Xbox. And how about you let others comment ahead of you. I likend it to writing a status on FB and then liking it yourself. So theres a gap, what does it mean for me as a gamer? Should i be worried? Is it hurting us Xbox owners that it only sold 5 mil? Its the beginning of next gen dude, its a marathon not a sprint.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

You sound a little upset. Offended even.

[stuna1]

What do you mean is it going to hurt Xbox1 owners!? Has slow sales hurt WII U owners?? Yes to both questions! Paying attention to last generation, the PS3 suffered to an extent also. Slow selling console fight an uphill battle when it comes to higher levels of support, just look at the Vita for confirmation.

Last generation the PS3 struggled for outside support, while the Xbox 360 was swimming in support even so much so that games that many felt would stay on PS platform made the jump over to Xbox platform. We are seeing that same support being extended to the PS fanbase this gen in what games are not even being considered to come to the Xbox1. That not to say they never will, but I think it's pretty obvious the PS4 is the safer choice in developers minds at the moment.

The Vita is floundering in support and the WII U is relying on mostly it 1st party support, but best believe if they saw a major increase in sales, the developers would also start circling like vultures at a all you can eat buffet.

[corvusmd]

This only goes to show the bias people have when looking at these numbers. They are having a loose interview, not strategically talking numbers. The "north of 5mil" number that he is referring to was from back in May, doesn't mean that X1 HAS NOT sold over 5 mil simply because it was a "sold in" number back in May. It doesn't say anywhere that they have not been sold through yet, and its true that recent sales are on the rise for X1.

On the flipside of that, why are we so willing to believe that Sony has sold-through 9mil now even though other than this article quoting another article...that has no factual basis for the claim...is the ONLY source saying that?

Please stop jumping at conclusions with the numbers, it keeps making people look foolish. Quite honestly, with the price gap for 7 months and the difference in countries where both are available(YES I KNOW that both consoles are already in all the heavy hitters except potentially China, but 13 to 72 still does SOMETHING)...I'm truly surprised that PS4 doesn't have a bigger lead. Last October I would have thought that PS4 would EASILY double X1 sales in the first year, then in the next holiday season it would start to even out a little more.

Sales look to SLOWLY be leveling out, and there are many things on the horizon that may make the competition even closer. Either way, getting too attached to numbers this early is just foolish. Just be happy that they are both making a profit.

@60 you didn't get disagrees for being happy about games, you either got disagrees because someone is still upset about something you said in the past, they saw your name and just down voted with their multiple accounts and/or they are upset that you said something that has a positive connotation when referring to X1 "I'm glad BOTH are selling well". There is a large group of people around here that don't want a debate, or reason or logic, they just want you to agree with them and if you don't they will do whatever possible to silence you.

[Chevalier]

@CorvusMD

Because Sony confirmed 7 million sold as of April. They've been selling over 1 million units per month and 2 months have passed so 9 million is a reasonable guess. Sorry which country is Xbone outselling PS4? Last time I checked it was exactly ZERO. How do you still think that Xbone can catch up if they can't beat sales in any given country?

Your asking for facts?! So where is your factual proof proving that sales are levelling out? Right because your guessing. I'd love to see where your numbers are to back your 'statement' up.

[n4rc]

They just aren't publically stating new sales numbers.. Doesn't mean their aren't new numbers..

They announced 5m shipped how long ago? Those have all been sold and replaced with new units by now..

[Spotie]

So NOW they're not publicly stating shipped numbers? What made that change?

Could it be that they're getting royally spanked?

[MysticStrummer]

They were still trying to get rid of Day One editions as of E3...

[RDF]

"The denial is strong in this one." (using Yodas voice)

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

You take this stuff way too seriously.

[Pogmathoin]

So, NextLevel, update: your caught trolling :)

Somewhere, Maria is proud of you....

Godmars, never mind Wii obliterated PS3 too....

Somewhere, Maria is proud of you....

[ScamperCamper]

Not that I'm a hero, but to me this was going to be Xbox One at 50% of the PS4. Too much bad stuff happening around frames and Kinect to make One the winner. I just don't think Halo 5 will be enough to really capture more than half of what Sony has.

[Evilsnuggle]

denial is not just a river in egypt . why do you fanboys think that microsoft stopped giving the xbone sale numbers. because PS4 is growing the gap that is why PS4 is crushing xbone in sales and it looks bad.

well said nextlevel

[CuddlyREDRUM]

Does this affect you strongly as a gamer?

[slasaru01]

So what? Audi selling less than Toyota, as if they care about it...

[MehmetAlperTR]

The problem is PS4 is Audi and Xbone is Toyota :P And now Audi is selling faster. So it means we ll see better games and more games.

[WMANUW]

But then microsoft refers to distributed. So he said harrison as usual.

[Azzanation]

Also XB1 isn't available world wide, expect the gap to be a lot closer when its available.

[ritsuka666]

Shiped numbers for both consoles.

[F4sterTh4nFTL]

I wonder where did everyone go?

PS2 = 158 Million -> PS3 = 83 Million -> PS4 = 9 Million
Xbox 360 = 83 Million -> Xbox One = 5 Million
Wii = 101 Million -> WiiU = 6.5 Million

[rarity]

You included the ps2 but excluded the gamecube and og Xbox and if you don't mind me asking what's your point?

[SpinalRemains138]

He asked a question.

He wants to know why the overwhelming majority of previous console owners still have not upgraded to new Gen. Hence the "where did they all go?"

Reading is fundamental.

[F4sterTh4nFTL]

There is no point I am just asking a question that I don't have an answer to?

The difference between previous gen numbers and new gen numbers is huge and I just want to know where are the people who bought these consoles previously but have not moved on to the new gen yet, what are they waiting for. The price drops are not going to happen anytime soon, so why not just buy these consoles now.

The comparatively poor cross-gen game sales of previous gen versions also shows there are not that many active gamers on previous gen consoles either, so where is everyone?

[Cupid_Viper_3]

Well the question being asked is really silly.

PS2 = 158 Millions in 13-14 years. The PS3 is at 8-9 years, and the PS4 is not even 1 year old. So on what basis is he comparing the numbers?

[EXVirtual]

@Spinal and Fast.
Gee, I don't know. Maybe because it hasn't even been a year since they released? And that the numbers being compared are the sales the PS2 and PS3 by the end of their respective gens (6 years and 7 years) and the numbers of the PS4 after 8 months? Your questions are quite silly.

[MysticStrummer]

The question is just a really dumb one. So dumb that I hope for FTL's sake it was dumb on purpose.

PS2 dominated XBox and Gamecube so that number is very high.

PS3, 360, and Wii all did very well so none of them did as well as PS2.

This generation has just started. Even WiiU hasn't been around long in comparison to previous generations.

@Spinal - It's a dumb question.

[Alsybub]

Looking at Sony consoles alone.

PS2 = 158 Million over 12 years
PS3 = 83 Million over 8 years
PS4 = 9 Million over 7 months

Not a fair comparison. Most sales come as the product becomes cheaper and it is released in more countries. This can actually be long after the release in the West. I'm talking about countries like Russia ($828 net income per month VS $3460 in the UK) where there is a huge population but at the price, early in the life cycle, it is not affordable for everyone. Also, traditionally the new generation is a loss leader and the previous generation is the profit maker for some time after the new generation has begun.

It's the same with Windows operating systems. When Microsoft release a new version they are projecting profits for after the next version is released, it's at this stage that it becomes economically viable for large scale industry to upgrade. At that stage millions of licences are bought, in bulk, by these companies. So, when Windows 8 was released and people were starting to get their shiny new laptops it was at that stage the companies were beginning to transition to Windows 7 on a large scale.

[True_Samurai]

360 has surpassed 84 million http://www.gamespot.com/art...

[windblowsagain]

8million of them confirmed broken.

[saint_seya]

windblowsagain i think you are short in millons :p

[Platinum_k]

...and the PS3 surpassed 360

[uth11]

It took years to reach those numbers. Some of them are people who bought replacement consoles no doubt.

With the Wii- the casual gamers who bought that seemed to have moved on to mobile gaming, facebook gaming, etc.

[BitbyDeath]

PS4 has been getting them, just look at all the people who only use playroom day in day out. Release of SingStar later this year will bring over even more.

[uth11]

sure some, but I think a big chunk of the 80 million or so extra people that the Wii brought in aren't planning on upgrading to another console this gen.

[Dudebro90]

You are looking at numbers at the end of a console cycle and comparing them to one that just started. Kind of pointless.

[HeWhoWalks]

The answer should be quite simple, at least in the case of the PS2. The fanbase split between the 360 and PS3 and many haven't upgraded to current gen machines since, you know, two have them have only been out for 7 months and the WiiU didn't suck up too many previous gen owners.

Context, try it.

[FamilyGuy]

They're either:
Still playing on their old systems,
Waiting for a good time/game to upgrade,
Switched over to hand helds like the 3DS
Switched over to mobile phone gaming or
Switched over to PC gaming.

Either way, those sales figures didn't all happen overnight you know? It took 5 to 10 years to reach those marks. We're just under 8 months in at the moment.

[bumnut]

They all bought PC's instead :)

[Christopher]

FTL, the market for gaming has boomed.

You now have 3 focused competitors plus smart phones and tablets. People in the PS2 era used the device as their primary DVD player and really had no other cheap-form device for gaming. Then we got more people in the mix, mobile technology really took off, and what people wanted changed with it. The Wii was a marketing success of sorts, with great marketing and something a little different it achieved strong numbers initially but fell off due to huge lack of third-party support.

The gamers are out there, but many of them are not ready to shift to new consoles right away when they're finding ways to game on their old consoles and new phones/tablets that provide them more than just some gaming moments.

Perhaps the gamers will gradually make their way back to the PS4/XBO/WiiU, but it depends a ton on what they console providers start to put out material the gamers want.

[Magnes]

Could be loss of casuals to mobile phones/tablets /shrug. Come back casuals consoles are still fun!!

[KwietStorm_BLM]

It's fairly obvious, to the point that it's a silly question. PS2 had a lopsided chunk of markets are, when compared to Xbox and GameCube, which you didn't include for some reason. If you did, you maybe would have seen from your own numbers that there was much more competition with the PS3, 360, and Wii generation, sales wise. The saturation level was more evened out across the platforms. We're less than a year into this round, so it's pointless to bring it up.

[Clogmaster]

Wouldn't it be better to compare the predecessors' numbers corresponding to the age of the current gen consoles instead of lifetime vs present?

[modesign]

dont get to excited, this is just shipments, not actual sales.

[ichdich]

X1 is only releasing in 1/3 of the countries that the PS4 is currently in.
Just wait for the next month, a few more months, and end of the year when X1 is everywhere before we can judge who will win in sales.
It isn't fair that PS4 has a head start with Nov and in 32+ countries ahead of X1.
Next month NPD should be interesting with the new SKU Kinect-less X1 sales.

[TheFallenAngel]

Xbone is being outsold in every country where the both platforms are available. I doubt it will change much in other countries. Did you copy and paste this from neogaf? Lol

[pwnsause_returns]

"Just wait"

every pro xbox commentor has been singing that tune for the last 8 months....

if you cant win big in the US, the Xbox's biggest stronghold, you cant win anywhere.

[pwnsause_returns]

@KNWS

"Remember you're on a Sony site they can't see Sony losing a lead and can't tell the difference between 13 countries and 72 for Sony"

this is also an xbox site that trashed the PS3 7 years ago. i guess you where to young to even visit this site at the time....

[n4rc]

And yet one click shows you signed up less then a year ago yourself

[MetalProxy]

N4rc...I have been here for a while now and pwnsauce is correct.

[hello12]

Remember you're on a Sony site they can't see Sony losing a lead and can't tell the difference between 13 countries and 72 for Sony

These are same people who said xb1 had no hope in Japan. And yet its looking very good for xb1 when it release in Japan this September. Pre-orders are very high.

Wait till winter Microsoft halo collection is out and i can see xb1 surpassing the ps4 then.

Europe is up the air. Uk might be good for Microsoft with halo.

The lead is going to diminish and i bet money on it going to happen in the next six months.

George@ Destiny is on xb1 so not sure why you count that one.

Last of Us might do have to see with that.

If Sony confirms its 9 million and has prove its real. I have no issue with that, but claiming 9 million with no sourcing is wrong way to do things.

Jare@ For now PS4 is winning, but things don't remain static. A change could happen when more games and features come out for xb1 its never set in stone. PS4 could still dominant in Europe, who knows, but things do change.

[georgenancy]

Sony has the last of us and destiny to boost sales.

[imt558]

Pre-orders in Japan for PS4 were also pretty high in February. In beginning, sales were good, now are poor.

Don't expect that Xbone will have different sales in Japan.

[jaredhart]

How is Europe "Up in the air"?

PS4 is destroying Xbox One there.

[mkis007]

I will bet you any sum that a 4 million deficit is impossible to make up in 6 months. The ps4 has yet to be outsold.

[CernaML]

"The lead is going to diminish and i bet money on it going to happen in the next six months. "

How about you bet your account so when it doesnt happen youll delete it and GTFO this site for good?

[Clogmaster]

Are you going to bet money with people on this site? That would be interesting.

[king_ps4]

The xbox one is done, you just gotta accept it.

[Jury]

If this is what you're clinging to, prepare for disappointment

[brew]

lol
http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

[Christopher]

***It isn't fair that PS4 has a head start with Nov and in 32+ countries ahead of X1. ***

It wasn't fair that the 360 had a year head start ahead of the PS3?

Microsoft is making these decisions. No one prevented them from doing a limited release of their console other than them.

[Clogmaster]

And still lost in the end.

[TheFallenAngel]

Ps4 is a beast. Xbone is doing good but not ps4 good.

[snookiegamer]

Sony definitely learned from the PS3 launch. Better still, the heads Yoshida & Andrew House seem super humble.

I really miss Jack Tretton, but PlayStation is in good hands.

Xbox One will be okay, there are plenty of games coming, and there are legions of fans. It's a super awesome time to be a gamer.

[hello12]

Sony never said 9 million. Rubbish until its confirmed by Sony and NYSE. It likely more near 8 million

Microsoft is likely hovering between 5 and 6.

George@ I gave an opinion what the sales are, big difference to when you post a 9 million figure, with nothing to back it up.

Last we heard 2 months ago it was 7 million for Sony, 9 million seems high to me.

Microsoft was 5 million months ago. So 6 million is realistic.

[georgenancy]

Microsoft never said 5/6 million. Rubbish until its confirmed by Microsoft and NYSE. It likely more near 5 million

Sony is likely hovering between 9 and 10.
See what i did there?Fanboyism honestly needs to stop

[jnemesh]

How do you figure MS is over 5 million SOLD TO CUSTOMERS? If they were, we would have heard a press release from MS when they topped 5 million sold-through. We have heard NOTHING from them since the announcement of 5 million SOLD-IN to retailers!

Also, even if VGC is overtracking Xbox One again...it still shows that it would take another 16+ weeks for Xbox One to get an additional million in sales at their current rate!

[Rob_Ko]

why should Sony report every milion? they are waiting for big number 10

[Eonjay]

Unfortunately, until we get official sold through numbers, Sony is still at 7 and Microsoft is still at 3. The 5 million shipped doesn't tell us anything.

[MysticStrummer]

Going by the numbers we've seen, there's a very decent chance XB1 hasn't hit 5 million sold to consumers.

"I gave an opinion what the sales are, big difference to when you post a 9 million figure, with nothing to back it up."

lol I'm not going to bother explaining how silly that sentence is.

[rainslacker]

9 million is plausible. Sony stated 7 million 2 months ago, and they have been selling about 1 million a month.

MS is probably at around 5 million as well given where they said they were. Possibly 5.5-6 depending on how well the $399 model sold last month. Whether that's sold or shipped, since MS didn't give a sold number, I can't say.

[RichardDawkins]

Ps4 is killin it.

[sk8ofmnd]

Lol by christmas there will be no speculating the ps4 will have twice the install base of the one. Great achievment. But dont sony have more systems in more regions than the one? Also its no secret the ps4 has more horsepower more first party studios and more to prove with the ps4. They had to get it right with the 4. If this console was a hard developed platform like the ps3 was earlier on we probably wouldnt be seeing a ps5. Go sony!

[KakashiHotake]

I think the part that's getting over looked is this...

"Microsoft has clarified that Harrison was referring to the previous 5m shipped figure and was not citing new numbers."

That means Xbox One really aint selling much at all. They've held that 5 million shipped stance for several months now, and it seems PS4 sells a million every month.

[Christopher]

I'm not sold on that. MS doesn't want to announce numbers because they are below the PS4 still (and haven't been gaining ground but not selling poorly either). When the XBO starts to make some gains on their distance between the PS4, I think we'll start hearing more relatable figures from them.

This is the same position the PS3 was in last generation. MS lauded their gains in NA while Sony focused on certain statistics only until they started to close the gap worldwide.

[Clogmaster]

This is the only downfall to reporting shipped numbers, because it doesn't include follow-through, it can freeze the numbers.

Once all stores receive their shipment and supply is ample, then shipments stop, and you can't use shipment numbers again until all the supply is sold-through to consumers.

[rainslacker]

No, just means that MS isn't commenting on it, and the only official number they have right now is the 5 million shipped they said a couple months ago.

Most companies don't release sales data because of every random sales speculation report that comes out. Means they'd be commenting every other day.

[B_Rian89]

So are they gonna keep updating us each time these systems seeks 1 million units

[KinjoTakemura]

If the 9 million number is real Sony could very well move 20 million units before the end of 2014.

[hugogs]

2014?? Sorry no, I love PS4 too but there is no way it will get 20mil sales by the of the year.

[KinjoTakemura]

Well right now they're moving about a million units per month. Who's to say what will happen in October, November, and December?

[hugogs]

Exactly they're moving around a million a month, I think its possible they'll reach 15mil, realisticly 12mil, but there is no way they get to 20mil

[hi54geezus]

You misunderstood Kinjo. While I think 20m is improbable, at 1m a month when no real blockbusters have been released, can increased to faster rate in the upcoming months when there are going to be some pretty big releases, (both multi plats and exclusives). Though if that were the case anyway, I don't think Sony can produce that much.

[sk8ofmnd]

@fasterthanftl
My guess would be a mixture between cost most gamers waiting till a new slim lined more updated leas buggy system to launch. Alot of my friends are like I never buy new electronics when they first come out wich is true to an extent tho idgaf I got my preorder the very day it let me :) also alot of gamers may not see there fav franchises on the 4 yet. Just some of my thoughts.

[Rob_Ko]

Sony could dominate even more if they have Uncharted 4 and God of War 4 ready for launch this Fall.
That would be crushing blow

[TheTwelve]

No chance.

Sony is saving all of their bombs for when Microsoft decides to drop theirs.

[HappyWithOneBubble]

It's official XB1 is done. Even the kinectless SKU for $400 didn't do much help. PS4 lead is 4m and expect it to rise 6m+ during the holidays and when that happens MS will be force to drop XB1 to $350. People are spending their money wisely this gen on the better console. PS4 to lead the way all gen.

[AutoCad]

PS3 was a better console last gen..

[HappyWithOneBubble]

Yes it is but in the beginning it struggled cause of the $600 price. Sony turned it around with the slim PS3 and the PS3 power was shown in its exclusives. This time around not only is PS4 better but it's cheaper to produce for Sony.

Sony have never made a bad console. I'm glad to say I enjoyed all their consoles. I can't say that for MS consoles.

[sovkhan]

That's why it outsolds the X360 every single month, worldwide from its start ^^

[bleedsoe9mm]

and if ms is forced to drop its price to 350 how is that bad , i hope both companies are forced to drop to dirt cheap prices and spend crazy amounts of money on way out there experimental exclusive games

[AutoCad]

well i guess im one of those 5million people not enjoying my xbox one /s

[S2Killinit]

well, i mean you don't even need a calculator to know that the gap is increasing. Sony is outselling microsoft every month in every market. How can the gap not be increasing?

[Garethvk]

The funny thing is that despite so many early blunders and bad P.R. moves, The Xbox One has sold well for them. The issue is that the PS 4 has sold through the roof and is still in some markets hampered by not being able to get enough unit to market to meet demand. I think this just bodes well for the future of gaming.

[CervantesPR]

Nothing stops PS4, the new ps2???

[Gore-Content]

QUALITY SELLS. AS SIMPLE AS THAT!

[bleedsoe9mm]

if the ps4 had hit 9 million sony would be crowing about it on twitter and their blog , with every right . and did i miss the xb1 first and second offical price cuts , don't think either one has happened yet .

[Bonkerz]

What you guys really need to understand is that the X1 is selling VERY well too. The pS4 is just selling at crazy speeds which makes the X1 not look AS good to the PS4. X1 is still the 2nd fastest selling gaming console EVER right after obviously the PS4, we as gamers should be happy that both are selling very very well and our favorites hobbies are doing awesome!

[xDHAV0K24x]

cool. steadfast for the next 5 mill!

[lovesGaming17]

Nice numbers. Almost 15 million consoles sold.plus Xbox will b available worldwide this fall. This fall should b huge for ms and sony

[sebzhd]

1 one for 2 PS4 worlwide is coming this year easy. bye bye M$.

[lovesGaming17]

Really? Bye bye MS? Competition is always good,makes things better. That is a horrible take Mr. One bubble

[iNFAMOUZ1]

you bastard don mattrick...

[feraldrgn]

People who say MS competition is good, seem to forget that Nintendo is still around & has been around since before Sony, the 2 companies have done fine over the years & when each company was in the lead, neither took away our rights or crossed the line, so I don't know why people think Sony would if MS quit the console market.

Or perhaps it's because we've experienced MS actually doing those things, so now we expect the others to follow.

[ThatOneRiggaNob]

*facepalm* People don't mean Sony will do the things that MS was trying to do which tbh those policies weren't even that bad to begin with. Let's be honest we're all online anyway and disc based drm so we could be able to install the games from our discs and never have to switch discs again with a plan in motion to let us be able to trade our discs in to certain partners. They were basically making steam for consoles which I don't see how that's so bad but anyway back on topic they meant more along the lines of product quality and such. Perfect example would be NBA 2k and NBA Live. Onne live was out of the picture 2k wasn't as innovative the following years. Also I think Sony and MS are in direct competition while NIntendo is honestly doing their own thing for their own crowd which is what they've been doing for the longest now. So yeah people don't think that Sony would take a complete nose dive if MS was out of the picture. They just think Sony won't be as gamer centric as they seem to be atm.

[moparful99]

I'm sorry but the defense for Microsofts proposed DRM is illogical. If you want the ability to never have to swap discs ever again just buy digital games.

If Microsoft truly wanted to give us this "freedom" and the decision wasn't a profit driven one designed to snuff out used game sales then they would have lowered the price of digital games. Period.

Its obvious and apparent that the motivation behind their DRM policies was strictly profit driven.

[ThatOneRiggaNob]

@mopar the point was I could still buy discs and get the digital benefits of not having to swap discs then turn around later and trade that same game in and lose access to it but the time I had the game I didn't have to bother with swapping discs. So you can't say just go digital... Also this is not a defense for MS this is more of me defending the features I actually thought was pretty cool. Also what's wrong with them snuffing out used game sales when it's been said that used game sales is one of the reason some devs can't stay open because some people would rather buy used and pay GS all their money than buy new and pay the devs their earned money.

[moparful99]

I know what you meant. But You can't have the "digital benefits" while buying physical discs without giving up basic rights. That 24 hour check in nonsense was beyond reasonable, on top of that a game could only be lent, sold or traded to another individual once. After that it had to be taken to select retailers where it could be traded or sold to them. I personally to buy or sell used games but I have a lot of friends and family that we like to borrow each others games, more than 10 in fact so Microsoft's proposed family share policy wouldn't have worked for me.. But regardless despite the flaws of their DRM policies its just anti consumer. They are completely restricting the way you use the games YOU BUY. I can't support that at all.. If they can figure out a way to do the game ripping without all of their strict DRM control then I would be for it.

[hiawa23]

Seems both are ahead of where they were last gen at the same time. I own both don't care about the fan boy nonsense that goes with each one of these topics, but I really don't expect the One to catch the 4. I expect both to do well, MS made some huge mistakes in the beginning, & they have course corrected, so I am looking forward to what both brings to the table this gen that is really all I am concerned about. Who comes in first or second or third, meh, no concern to me.

[MultiConsoleGamer]

Nope.

[stinkytofus]

microsoft is 5m "shipped"

sony is 9m "sold"

lols

[Goku781]

So Embarrassing for Xbox One right now.

[Kingdomcome247]

Pretty incredible start for Sony. Someone within Sony a few months back made mention of the Ps4 possibly equaling, or surpassing the Ps2. That would be an incredible feat, but I dont know how likely it is. The Ps2 had such a long tail end. I have both consoles in my house, and feel personally, that healthy competition provides the best scenario for gamers as a whole. Sony has done just about everything right thus far, and have definitely earned their place at number one. I dont think when all is said and done though that we'll still be seeing the near 2:1 sales advantage that Sony currently retains. I expect a big holiday season for both hardware wise. It wouldn't surprise me to see Microsoft eke out a 1 to 2 month sales lead in November/December. If only on the strength of the MC collection. What with it being next-gen only coupled with Halo's sizeable fanbase. After being announced only as recently as E3 it already has garnered the second most pre-orders of any game behind Destiny. Bungie has to secretly love that. Irrespective of the console you own I think you can rest safe in knowing you've got some incredible experiences to look foward to. Even if those on the other side will tell you, that they have just a little bit more to be stoked about. Off topic... I still have a couple of questions regarding hard drive upgrades for both consoles if anyone would be willing to give me some input.

[Ps4marksthespotnotX]

Get it up yas ps4 kicking butt and you xb fanboys are crying but there's nothing you can do.

[johny5]

I guess that's how it feels to be left in the dust....

[Revengeance]

That 4 million gap will be doubled in 2015. Mark my words.

[PhucSeeker]

X360 had the lead back in the day might be the Thing that led us to Uncharted - LBP - Killzone ... Now with Ps4 leading , i hope that M$ can be like Sony and have the balls to step it up with Xbone . And i'd love for Sony to do the same with the Vita .

[urwifeminder]

Well done MS love your work.

[lawgone]

Ah, haven't visited here in weeks and not one thing has changed. Sad.

Xbox One is will sell in 26 more countries in September but according to Sony fanboys they won't sell a single console. Funny. Sorry, but I've owned two PS4s and wasn't impressed. Actual gameplay still lags substantially behind Xbox..."better" RAM or not. That's why I sold them until they get their shit together.

[LightDiego]

Guys, these numbers are wrong according to the pc gamers on N4G! Both combined sold less than 1 million units.
Everybody just want PC and Steam Machines with Linux.

[DJ]

It's not all bad. 360 to PS3 sales were like 3:1 early on. It wasn't until the PS3's 3rd year that things started to look up.

[Jamaicangmr]

Damn Sony great Job.

[Give_me_head_strong]

I'm not saying the Xbox One can come back and overtake PS4, but I'm sure Halo: MMC and the Halo 5 beta will prompt a few fence riders to purchase an Xbox One this holiday. We aren't even one full year into this console generation so don't count any one out yet...

[Platinum_k]

Well done Sony!

A SPECIAL Congratulations to the Playstation Team!

[Lumberg187]

Pfft, Who needs these crap consoles when you can get a PC setup like mine. Origin PC with a dome of monitors around me, I update my hardware every month boy. PC Elite Master Race but if I'd have to choose a console it'd be Xbox One because it f*cking rocks.

[sovkhan]

Call me when you can play with your master race hog the awesome games we do have on console...GOW, TLOU, The Order,Uncharted, Forza etc...

a race car without fuel is useless, just like your comment ^^

[Mr Marvel]

Get back down in your parent's basement!

[HumanatPlay]

Yaaay SONY sold 9 million...now where does that leave us? I mean surely SONY must be so thrilled with all the financial support from its most important investors and stakeholders (We the gamers). So yeah how about they hit us up with those missing features already, if SONY aren't bringing new 1st party games in 2014 at least revolutionize the User Interface and console features.

[Mr Marvel]

Wow! That gap is actually pretty huge.

[schnodder]

It's really strange to see the XB selling not so well. Last generation the 360 was the way to go for multiplats and online gaming. Times really changed. Sony did an amazing job with the PS4. The XB1 is better if you're a multimedia/apps freak.

[ritsuka666]

This is SHIPED numbers of Xbox One, Xbone don't surpasses not even 4 millions of units.

[ShockUltraslash]

Well glad to see both consoles doing, how they should be doing;)
Keep in mind that XBONE has basically inferior hardware selling at the same price, so Microsoft is making more money compared to Sony with each unit sold.

[mikemadden]

The fact you can still buy the day one edition of xbox one, is all you need to know about the sales.