Titanfall producer: “I don’t know if it’s making a profit. I don’t care”

Titanfall producer Drew McCoy Doesn't Care if his game is making dollars, he’s doing it for the love.

[ArchangelMike]

That's great, but "doing it for the love" doesn't pay the bill's. I'm sure both MS and EA, along with their shareholders are not in it "for the love".

(EDIT: Is profanity now allowed in title descriptions, especially as Drew McCoy and vg247.com did not actually use this phrase!?)

[JoGam]

Guess who's getting fired next? Seriously, deep down he does care. Tomorrow he'll wake up saying WTF was I thinking? Hell yeah I care.

[TripC50]

@ jogam
Are you saying that this guy, the producer of Titanfall, is going to be fired soon?

[tuglu_pati]

Do you guys even know what the producer do? The game making or not making money is not his responsibility.

A producers is the person who is in charge of overseeing development. In other words he is like the "hammer" on the development process. He's main job is to make sure all the development process goes smoothly, not making sure the game make profit.

[Concertoine]

Why would he get fired for saying he doesn't care if it makes a profit? Its not like this is bad publicity or something.

[abstractel]

@tuglu_pati Not sure why you are getting dislikes, anyone who has any experience in the industry knows this is the case. Though they are also to some extent responsible for making sure the game gets made on the budget they're given. People have a very skewed perception of the role of producers.

[TheGreatAndPowerful]

Not sounding good for TF.

[sinspirit]

@tuglu_pati

I don't think you have any clue what a producer is. Obviously, they oversee the games quality, but they don't ignore budgets and they definitely have a lot to do with money. In this business you can't produce something without money. A producer is there to make sure the money is being well spent.

He really doesn't seem to care, seeing how Titanfall's visuals are dissapointing, but, that aside, the amount of content is very low, few game modes, little variety in what content it does have, and he is basically just taking the Call of Duty formula, which is from an already ignorant and uncaring publisher.

[UltraNova]

He signed a contract agreeing to a Metacritic score of above 85-90% in order to get his bonus (In this industry its widely accepted that high Meta scores (85% +) = millions in sales). Yes he cares...a lot.

This is the games industry today at least in AAA turf.

[SpiralTear]

Exactly. Sure, he might not care, but EA definitely does, and Titanfall's sales are what are likely to determine if they back up a sequel or not.

If they don't, someone else will need to step in or the series isn't likely to continue. Hopefully it will; this IP is cool to me.

[darthv72]

Well if EA isnt satisfied with the results then MS could come to the rescue again and TF2 will be another MS platform exclusive.

Just one possibility.

[Hicken]

No way in hell, darth. You'd like that, I'm sure, but EA would NOT look at the massive install base of the PS4 and pass it up.

Let's be real.

[SlyFoxC]

Respawn already said TF2 will be multiplat

[TearsOfARapper]

He doesn't care because he knows he did his job and made a great game that's selling. If something is successful, you don't have to care about if/what the profit is.

[lovethenoob]

profit = success (in most cases) so to say he doesnt care if it makes a profit is silly...i'd be more interested to see if he still has a job after this...what company wants to employee someone who doesnt care if a product makes a profit

[Edsword]

Wow, do you work in government by any chance?

[Muffins1223]

It couldn't of lost that much money if it did,it sold 2 million units at-least! That is pretty good and its budget is probably lower due to the fact they cut out the single player. If it did fail it was not a bad one and the next one will make money guaranteed when it comes to the other platforms.

[Ricegum]

Because you're getting disagrees, everyone is a butt hurt Sony fanboy? Silly silly. Maybe you're getting disagrees because people disagree with what you're saying.

[Muffins1223]

Um that was in my 2nd comment,what was wrong with my first comment Unreal01?

[ShowGun901]

well your comment does have a speculation in it, the amount of sales. if people disagreed with your estimate, you'd probably get a disagree. its not rocket sugery.

[Joe913]

Those numbers are not correct just like the sales numbers for Knack not right because knack came free with a lot of PS4 systems and the same can be said about TF because they had to drop the price of the xbox one and give TF away for free just to get systems out the door so who knows how much TF really made numbers are always going to be skewed when they give a game away for free I really do not like going off sales because it causes a lot of fighting but do understand ppl following them to get a idea if there will be a sequel but TF sold very well we know there will be a sequel we should not be focused on this stuff.

[randomass171]

Isn't this kind of mentality the kind of thing we gamers should encourage? Having financial success is great, but there are plenty of great games that did not sell well. Platinum Games has done this a few times.

[Concertoine]

As does Grasshopper Manufacture.

Thing is Titanfall isnt as experimental or creative as those games, and a lot of people dont like it for whatever reason.

But you know what, if the fact that people are enjoying and purchasing a game he helped make is enough to make him happy, we have no right to say he shouldnt be.

[SilentNegotiator]

The mentality that leads to bankruptcy and then the flow of games slows?

Ummm, nope.

[TitanUp]

n4g is strict on profanity, which is ok because this is a family friendly site.

[ScareFactor]

Family of fanboys and weabo's

[Blaze929]

"but "doing it for the love" doesn't pay the bill's. "

he's not paying the bills. He isn't a shareholder. He isn't Microsoft nor is he EA. As far as he's concerned - he's working in a completely independent studio.

So as far as Titanfall producer Drew McCoy goes - he probably doesn't care about anything you pointed out @ArchangelMike

[Hicken]

... Paying the bills refers to making enough money to pay the bills. In other words, you can't pay the bills if you're doing a job for free, which is the implication here.

Jesus, man...

[Gamer1982]

Doesnt care about profit after launch? Seems a bit bitter.. Especially with all this news lately of it not coming out on PS because of Sony.. Respawn very loud lately.. They probably didn't need to make a profit though thanks to MS money which paid there wages while making the game but it not selling as well as they hoped thanks to PS4 racing ahead will no doubt hurt.

[iamnsuperman]

Good for him but being an independent studio it is stuff like that you need to care about even if your not the head guy. I understand if you are just a cog in the large machine (other people can worry about that) but Respawn isn't like that (and there are problems if they were since your performance is all about hitting those sales targets). Their publisher probably cares a lot (since I bet they don't want another MoH, underselling than predicted wise, on their hands)

[T2]

ya this is just pr speak and i am sure people get sick of talking money, money, money but of course the bottom line does matter eventually. otherwise you have no backing for a project.

[mochachino]

EA probably profited, MS know way in hell with all the advertising, price for exclusivity, price drop, and small and brief effect on increasing Xone sales.

The 360 version would need to sell A LOT.

I probably would have bought the 360 version if it was $30, but I'm not paying full price for an online only game lacking in modes and maps. And I already have BF4, don't really need that many Online Focused FPS games, one a year normally satisfies that itch.

[MadLad]

How is fifteen maps lacking?

[mochachino]

For mp only and full price I'd expect like 30 maps. That to me would be a full 60 dollar mp only game experience IMO. That would make me feel like a full SP budget was spent on mp.

To each their own

[frankdrebin72]

seems some peeps will pay full price for single player experiance only??..is that dumb??..does it not have enjoyment value??..Then again. once you played it,...do you feel satisfied??.does the full price tag justify it??
If so..bravo..yet full price for a multiplayer game,..replay valuefun,social aspect involved,..dlc if wished,..is not acceptable??..to who..you??..
i have said it time and time again,..the percentage of traded in games would be higher with single player only content ad opposed to multiplayer,..therein,..both being full price..would equate to the multiplayer game only being more value for money...would it not??afterall you aint going to get your money back once you trade in the sp game but you will get your moneys worth from the multiplayer game.
So,..if full price bothers you,..ponder this,..and having a stab at a game you havent played or sour cause its not on your console of choice,..then i am sure you wont purchaee TF2 should ps get it..as for the amount of money Tf has made,..microsofts install base dosent stop at xbox one,..try the 360 and the pc market,.and digital of course..i am sure once all numbers are counted it will be very healthy.

[sic_chops]

Dont forget MS paying something for all those free copies they gave away with the bundles also.

[HappyWithOneBubble]

I think MS goal wasn't to profit from Titanfall but to slow PS4 sells down and we seen how that turn out. There has to be about 2m+ XB1's still in warehouses and on store shelves.

[xDHAV0K24x]

the 360 install base is gigantic though

[JeffGUNZ]

30 maps are way too many. The best part of the maps are learning all the best spots to travel and attack, 30 would be overkill. The only gripe I have is the lack of weapons. I wish they would break them into groups like SMG, Assault, Shotgun, Sniper, etc and added more guns. Everyone uses the R101 or the CAR which isn't a huge deal since it's balanced. More weapons though would have added to it.

Also, Titanfalls maps are AMAZING. Their is not one map I hate or wish to skip. They def. took their time with the map development and it shows in the playability of them.

[Jazz4108]

I heard on Reddit about having soon or adding a map editor where you can make your own maps. This game was well thought out and very diffrent from the norm which is why it is selling well. Im sure ms will do everything they can to get some type of exclusive on the sequel even if its buying extra content like Sony has been doing alot of these days which is opposite of last gen. Makes me wonder if they have much going or even money to keep it going.

[Detoxx]

30 maps? Do you even multiplayer bro?

[gigoran]

Lets make a sandwich. Because there sure is a lot of BA-LONEY here! Doesn't care if it's successful and profitable... ahuh ahuh, and I'm the second coming of Jesus here to begin Armageddon. You shall not be ruptured Drew.

[chaosdemon09]

Titian fall saved the xbone. This guy knows the 2nd one is going to make a crapload of money. Especially when it's multipatform.

[djplonker]

I dont understand why you would say it saved the xbone they gave it away free in an attempt to sell more consoles with a game that is also on pc and 360...

[randomass171]

He's probably referring to the 400% boost in sales that occurred when the game came out.

[chaosdemon09]

Simple cause once the price cut and the buddle came out xbones where selling like crazy again. Sorry to say but ps4's lead is going to end soon. Mircosoft is paying alot of money to make there product known in stores.

Again die hard ps fan just calling it like I see it.

[Jazz4108]

The xboxone and ps4 are having record sales with or without games. Neither one of them need saving. Now the WiU is a diffrent story being out twice as long and being passed easily by Sony and Ms in just there launch window.

[djplonker]

I aint no sony fanboy I just hate ms since e3 and I was on 360 most of last gen so shows what you know accusing me of being a fanboy when clearly you are...

I own
ps4
Wii u
pc
vita
360 - 77k gamerscore -.-
ps3

you are delusional if you think the xbox is going to outsell the ps4 ever just like the ps3 beat the 360.

After e3 last year they lost my money!

[Jazz4108]

As deceitfull as Sony has been in the past as well I am surprised you have anything left to game on holding grudges for decisions that were clearly not what the industry wanted but clearly ahead of our time is not healthy.

[SuperDan-Dare]

Somehow, somewhere this will make money. Either on the game itself, future dlc or merchandise.

...and if that doesn't make money, there's always the sequel...

[randomass171]

It's THE game to own on Xbox One, so I imagine it will make money over time.

[VforVideogames]

The sequel will be called ... TITANFALL The Search For More Money .

[Deadpool101]

Much love for a Spaceballs reference...at least I think it is lol

[MasterCornholio]

I want a Titanfall flamethrower or a Titanfall lunch box.

Thats merchandizing the future of Titanfall.

Another space balls reference brought to us by plain old yogourt

[frankdrebin72]

@vforvideogames.
and exclusive to Sony?lol

[Jazz4108]

Where is anyone getting the game has not made money? And also to the person who said Respawn allready said the sequel will be on ps4 I would love to see a link to that. I am sure thats what alot of the fans on here are spreading but its simply a lie as its never been stated. To add Respawn has not even talked about a sequel as when asked they stated they have not decided what they are going to make next even. If the game sold well for Ms I clearly expect them to pony up the cash or buy EA out as the publisher. Ms has the money and has done it before so dont ever count that out. If the game does not meet there expectations look for them to buy some time exclusive on the sequel when its announced.

[Father__Merrin]

possibly not done as well as expected

[Majin-vegeta]

Wouldn't this be the equivalent of saying"I don't care if I get payed for working" I do it cuz I like it or something along those lines??

OT:Everyone knows he cares working for free ain't gonna pay bills and put food for your family on your table.

[christheredhead]

Not really the same thing. The dude is making his salary regardless. The game could outright bomb, but he is still getting paid.

Game sells 10 billion copies = guy gets paid his salary.

Games sells 1 copy = guy gets paid his salary.

I wouldn't really care either. That's EA's job to care about the numbers. Titanfall producer will still be producing games no matter the outcome.

[chrissx]

I bet if titanfall was very successfull and breaking records he wouldn't be saying this

[Clarence]

Yeah ok

[N8]

Why lie and say you don't care? If you didn't care you would offer it for free or something. Or make the dlc free. I understand loving what you do but bs you don't care about the money it generates.

[randomass171]

It's not really his job to market the game. That was on EA and Microsoft. His job was to make a great game. We should applaud him for his honesty. Caring only about making a fun experience and not about what sells is exactly what this industry needs.

[Edsword]

Titanfall was meant to be a multi platform game. Its sales would be more than double had it been. Even if the game does not make a profit, it will likely have a sequel that will.

[ShowGun901]

BS he doesn't care! if games don't sell well, there wont BE a sequel. and if he likes the game he helped create, he'd want to make another! therefore i call BS!

i rest my case.

[ELpork]

Talk about a hard to find quality in people.

[Blackleg-sanji]

im in my marriage for the love but i still care about sex!! so bs u dont care

[Grave]

He doesn't care because Microsoft already paid him for Titanfall. That's the simple truth.

[spoonard]

EA paid him. The Microsoft deal had nothing to do with Respawn. The exclusivity deal was completely between Microsoft and EA.

[azure1990]

Wow okay so many people on here are ridiculous... .Yea he probably was hoping to make a profit off the game, but his last worries was making the money. Some people just don't care as much as you people do. But hey if this was a Sony exclusive it would be all praise and glory and it wouldn't be called bullshit. Funny how things work.

[Pinkdolphinyfg]

For a team of 50 new studio new ip game, Titanfall was a massive success

[The_devils_chum]

I agree with user Grave, they already got paid so why should he care. Im sure microsofts investors arent happy and just adds to them wanting to sell off the brand. Yes they have money to burn, but when they start going through profits theyll get dumped, dont hate you know its true.

[Enigma_2099]

You sir are the "Joe Quesada" of video games.

[Gore-Content]

BAAAHAHAAA! xbone exclusivity didn't pay off!

[firelogic]

Doing it for the love. HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! Oh man, I needed that.

If it was for the love you shouldn't have made an exclusvie deal with MS. If it was for the love you wouldn't be charging $60 for half a game.

[feraldrgn]

Doing it for the love, while cutting out an audience.

[Grave]

Exactly.

[Grindlefly]

Oh no!! A day without Titanfall being shoved in my face!!! Best say something really stupid to get an article up :)

[SpideySpeakz]

Titanfail was hyped to the point of head imploding. However, when the game released, it turned out to be a below average game. Blacklight was better than Titanfail and its free. There's little to no story behind Titan fail, and nothing to build upon like Halo or Uncharted. It should have been a free-to-play game on steam lol. Titanfail isn't AAA material, sorry.

[kewlkat007]

No wonder a lot of games fail these days and why indies are taking gaming back to its roots..

Imagine just making a game for the sake of making money only as your developing it..

You think there is any love in a madden year after year...

[quenomamen]

" I don't care I cashed my checks, besides we're gonna milk this bitch COD style for this whole generation !

[Atomicjuicer]

Shoulda gone PS4.

Oh well, ill catch the sequel.