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I don't trust digital distribution

Ryan shares his fear on Digital Distribution using PSN as an example. What happens when the service gets shut off? What happens to your digital library of games?

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GarrusVakarian3670d ago

Physical all day everyday.

The only digital games i get are from PS plus. Nothing beats having a physical copy of your purchase to do with as you please.

ATi_Elite3670d ago (Edited 3670d ago )

Digital All day baby.

they are all stored on my massive 4 TB USB HDD. (how physical is that)

if that thing fails I have the important ones burned to Blu-rays PLuS my keys are stored on the cloud/notepad so I can download any game I have from any Free source and just stick my key in it.

Looking at a shelf full of media is nice but for ME i have no use for media so I'm getting rid of it.

I think back at people who had super large collections of VHS tapes, now those things are JUNK!

GarrusVakarian3670d ago (Edited 3670d ago )

That's cool, but for me, trading games in towards other games is really important. I trade in the vast, vast majority of games i buy. Out of the hundreds of games i bought last gen, i only kept around 10 of my all time favs.

I wouldn't be able to trade games in if i went all digital, so that's an instant no no.

BattleAxe3669d ago

Unfortunately, I decided to go digital on PS3 when full game releases started happening on a more regular basis.

I can say that I would never go digital on a console ever again, since you never know what Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo will do regarding digital backwards compatibility.

Fortunately I own two PS3s, and I will be upgrading each one to a 1TB HDD in order to back up every single bit of content that I have purchased over the years. I figure that this is the best solution in order to be able to ensure that I will have my PS3 games for many years to come, and I will still have the ability to play CDs, DVDs and BluRay movies, amongst other features that will keep the PS3 relevant in my home.

Bottom line is that the PS3 is probably the last console that I will ever buy, with the exception of a PS Vita if it ever gets supported with great triple A first party games like it should have been from the start.

Prime1573669d ago

They aren't junk if they still have avhs player. I'm sorry you trust everyone with your digital keys.. if they are drm-free and purchased legally, good for you. Otherwise, you are a cancer.

ShinMaster3669d ago (Edited 3669d ago )

As long as the option is still available, I will choose physical.

Going all digital years ago would've been nice. But games today are getting bigger. Over 40GBs in size. And with a lot of people not having fast enough internet, with bandwidth caps and ISPs throttling your speeds, it can make for very frustrating experiences, taking hours for a single game to download.

assdan3669d ago

The problem with digital is that you don't technically own the game. You own a license to play the game. If steam wanted to, they could legally revoke every "license" For every game you own. No I highly doubt that will happen, but it wouldn't be illegal.

snarls2003669d ago

that works as long as the save files are not copy protected

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chris_x2k33669d ago

Physical is going away pretty sooon. That's a fact. Enjoy your last console with physical copies of games. There won't be any more going forward. You can down vote this post for truth if you like, it won't change the fact that YOU WILL be going digital, or not playing games at all sooner than you realize.

maxallepi3669d ago

I agree with you Chris. Digital is the future, but still having a hard copy is more secure. You can however (eg steam backup) backup your games and burn to disc which is what I'm planning to do sometime in the future. What I do not agree on is DRM.

Prime1573669d ago

Digital is fine under specific pretenses... for example, SIM city on one hand. If you can't get you single player game after a service goes offline, then that person is an idiot consumer.

Single, dang, player.

GarrusVakarian3669d ago

Lol, as long as i have the *option*, then i'm going physical. If the future is all-digital then i will obviously have to go with the flow, but it's not at the moment, so all it's all good.

ShinMaster3669d ago (Edited 3669d ago )

Going all digital years ago would've been nice. But games today are getting bigger. Some of them over 40GBs in size. And with a lot of people not having fast enough internet, with bandwidth caps and ISPs throttling your speeds, it can make for very frustrating experiences, taking hours for a single game to download.

ravinash3669d ago

Internet might be great where you are, but there are still large markets out there with internet that are dead slow.
As long as thats the case, there will always be a phisical option.

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s45gr323669d ago

But physical copies in the United States are going the way of the dinosaurs. What if five or six years from now you can only get your games via digital distribution then what stop playing games.

ShinMaster3669d ago (Edited 3669d ago )

"What if..."
Sure, but as long as the option is still available, I will choose physical.

Going all digital years ago would've been nice. But games today are getting bigger. Over 40GBs in size. And with a lot of people not having fast enough internet, with bandwidth caps and ISPs throttling your speeds, it can make for very frustrating experiences, taking hours for a single game to download. The US is still behind.

GamingSinceThe80s3669d ago

I can't imagine buying a game for $60 and not end up liking it or feel like it has no replay value to me.But being stuck with it forever not being able to get back 1 cent of my wasted money.It's already like a kick in the nut's only getting between $30 to $40 for a $60 game that that just came out a few day's before.I'v been burn way to many times by bad games to ever be ok with full price digital only.I do buy lower priced games and rare or hard to find digital games from time to time though.And your right PS Plus is very fair for the money.

darkwalker3669d ago

Those problems could easily be rectified if there was a buyer's remorse period in place for games. Maybe most games would allow you to play it for a couple days before you officially own it. And beyond that, they could always implement a trade-in system where you lose access to the game but are refunded money towards the purchase of another game.

diehardmetallicafan3669d ago (Edited 3669d ago )

Once again Lukas i totally agree with you, and with the exact same circumstances. the only time i'll but digitally is if its dlc i really want and for a cheap price. I love my physical copies. Having them all lined up on my shelves in alphabetical order is awesome. especially now that im nearing 100 ps3 games and already own over 100 ps2 games. They're nearly half way to my dvd collection.

Edit: i like the option to trade in games, but id rather not give eb games (australia) my games to sell for triple of what they'd give me pre-owned.

medman3669d ago (Edited 3669d ago )

I made the mistake of buying cod blops II, after no having bought a cod title since blops I. I returned it after a few days for a full refund on Amazon. So in essence, I got to experience the hot mess singleplayer and dabble in the multiplayer for five bucks for a few days, and was able to recoup all my money. With digital I would have been stuck with that garbage. To me, that's case opened, case closed. There is no comparison. Digital is just too inflexible right now. The real killer is there is no price difference between physical and digital copy. That doesn't make a lick of sense. That should tell you something isn't right.

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Nitrowolf23670d ago

"Remember the PSN network outage that happened a few years ago and it took about a month to get everything working again? Some people couldn’t play their games because their accounts weren’t being authenticated. I use this example again because I’m a member of PSN. Some games that you purchase might require DRM. This means that it needs to authenticate itself each time you play. What happens if you purchase a game, install it but can’t play it because your game can’t authenticate to the needed server? You’re stuck"

That's not how It works, if you downloaded something already, it's already activated, it does it right before it downloads, and that I belives is if ur acocunt isn't activated. So regardless, unless people went and deactivated their accounts (doubt there were even that many, if not a few), their digital games still worked perfctly fine.

Nonetheless though, it's still A valid point. I will never go full digital as long as physiclal copies and pricing of digital exists.

Axonometri3670d ago

I am starting to find having a digital copy at ready right on the device or manageable from PC to be very handy. I share concerns like others over entirely cloud based content, but I am finding the convenience when it is working positive.

If my disk breaks, I am toast. If my internet or service goes down, it won't be forever and possible to get something out of it.

theXtReMe13670d ago

This is how I feel also. I come from the Pong and Atari age, but having my library of games ready at a button click is incredible. I do worry that one day, when old servers are replaced with new, that my library will disappear... But, I also think that the future of computing and gaming is headed towards the cloud and all of our purchases should be safe for eternity.

If millions of gamers start relying on digital distribution,, I doubt any company would have the balls to pull it offline without fear of class action backlash. Regardless of what their legal team has prepared for us in the forwards of our online agreement. Though I do think the courts should now define user rights for such distribution, so the consumer is protected from unscrupulous companies looking at quick cash grabs across platforms.

For now, I am buying only the games I feel I will go back to time and time again, digitally. Any game that is short or will only grab my attention for a single play through, will be rented via Gamefly. That way, I am not throwing money out the window for games that I play once and forget.

Axonometri3670d ago

Agreed.

Isn't it awesome to have been around and played through gaming from nearly it's conception? I showed my son a couple of Atari games not long ago... his response, "What the? That looks terrible and lame." I said, "Son, that was like the PS4 to us when it came out." He just shook his head.

s45gr323669d ago

If you live in England "The First Sale Doctrine" has finally been implemented for digital distribution this means the consumer has the legal right to buy used games digitally, trade, and share games digitally including able to return games digitally. Sadly is only available in England and some other parts of Europe not the rest of the world damn it

GamingSinceThe80s3669d ago

theXtReMe1,The thing is in the future when some or all of these company's cease to exist there will be no one left to sue.

ElementX3670d ago

I really don't care if something happens to my digital library. I play a game until I get sick of it then move on. If I can't play a current game in 6 years it's no problem to me. There are already so many games I want to play that I can't imagine going back to play older stuff or play a second time. I am not a collector, I have no use for last gen systems once a new one comes out, in fact I'm looking to get rid of my ps3

Axonometri3670d ago

It is purely nostalgia. I enjoy going back to relive now and then.

micx3670d ago

I'm not keen on it as well. I buy something from time to time, but I rely on physical more.

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Chard13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

I never got around to mass effect - I’m skeptical that it would hold up if I were to try it now

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just_looken2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Yes this is not about video games directly but indirectly this will impact the pc gaming/workstation space hard.

This company is massive one of two in the water cool space so if it goes poof then thousands out there have no spare parts or half built computers.

SO yeah i know not about a video game but think of it as amd leaving the pc space but this is ekwb that could be leaving water cooling in the pc space

Jayz2cents a supporter of there products also has issues
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Giblet_Head17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

As someone that has built a watercooling rig. EK is big, but there's so many numerous watercooling part companies out there. EK's stuff isn't exactly amazing quality for the price compared to others either, it's just ok. Much like Corsair. The impact would be negligible long term. For perspective the majority of my parts are XSPC, at most I use EK for my gpu waterblocks and fittings. Both easily replaceable.