1080p vs Better Gameplay

"Since the launch of the PS4 and the Xbox One a lot of agitation has been created about the resolution of every single game that was launched. And it’s not limited just to the PS4 and Xbox One games. The same questions are raised about the games launching on PC and Wii U as well. Of course that everybody wants to play the games they love being able to see the tiniest details and it’s a much more immersive experience to play a game on a big screen with proper image quality. But… I’m afraid there is a but."

[iamnsuperman]

There is a misconception with this:

"But I don’t understant why a lot of people don’t buy the Xbox One because a lot of games do not run in 1080p. There are much more important reasons to buy or not a system. And I mean exclusive games, online services or the hardware it packs. N64 doesn’t run games in 1080p, it runs them at best in 480p, but mostly 240p or 300p. But it keeps you coming back from time to time. We didn’t love Mario because of the graphics. You could actually count the pixels that displayed him. We loved Mario because of the challenging gameplay, and enjoyable levels."

People have bought a PS4 over the One because the feature are not important to these people. At the end of the day if someone predominantly plus third party games why would they pay more for the system that displays the same game with a lower resolution. I get your overal point but you have neglected price and preformance in that quote (it's a fairly important argument).

Also the Nintendo 64 argument is weak. Sure they are fun games but are you saying you would pay 60 bucks for a Nintendo 64 game? I highly doubt that. Would you pay 60 bucks for a really low resolution game/a 64 looking game? Again, I highly doubt that. Fun? Yes but not modern prices fun

I do agree with the overall argument but the argument you have made is fairly weak. Also mobile site is down (fix)

[xer0]

Well said.

Talking about beating a dead donkey. This argument should have been put to rest, months ago now.

Are people really that stupid?

One of the other reasons I got a PS4 over Xbox One, was because of the FREE games. And the fact that I don't need PS+ to access Netflix or Amazon Prime.

[ThunderSpark]

Lucky for PS4 owners, they get to enjoy both 1080p and better gameplay.

[MidnytRain]

"FREE"

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

[xer0]

@MidnytRain

Just say it.

What you mean to say, is I only have access to these games, so long as I keep my subscription. That the $50 or so, pays for it.

Well that's damn good value if you ask me!!!

On top of this, PS+ members get discounted rates on some digital download games. Bags of value!

[johndoe11211]

@midnytrain

The fact that you must have a live gold subscription to get those "free" xbox games means you're paying for them so they aren't "free" either.

[MysticStrummer]

@MidnytRain - Would you be happier if people said "included with PS+ membership" instead of "free"?

If the value of what you get with the membership is greater than the cost of the subscription, then you are getting something for free. Over a year, the value of what you get with PS+ membership is much greater than the cost.

[diehardmetallicafan]

agree also! i had the chance to play an xboxone before i got a ps4 and i'm definitely sure i made the right choice. i hated the controller and when i realized it still had battery packs it was just plain common sense for me. plus finding room for a VCR again would be a pain in the arse. i chose ps4 obviously because it is more powerful, but it's the games. i love the killzone franchise and shadow fall was a great game in my opinion. and since launch I've bought myself infamous second son which is the best looking game I've played to date. after them i have not spent a cent on a game, although there is plenty to play, and that includes the ps4 and ps3.
The resolution arguments are going to be around for a while, but if you did choose the ps4, there's no need to stir the others up, just have a laugh and enjoy what you have. it won't be long until most people have a TV capable of outputting decent resolutions, then maybe they'll realize how much in denial they are.

[miyamoto]

These backward thinking people keep on harping more on game play,more on game play and less on graphics. If developers listen to these stupid people video games will be stuck in the 1990's like Nintendo is right now. Come on! Why are brain dead gamers so backwards thinking?

Good thing 7 million PS4 gamers say, "We Want Progress."

Like Adam Sessler's famous "1080p@60fps is a Must" speech.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
@1:36

Its just like telling a person to just walk with one leg and drag the other because its not important and useless.

*smh

I bet they won't be harping about game play over graphics if their favorite console brand (Microsoft's & Nintendo's) is much powerful graphically but not selling as the weaker specs competitor.

[nycgamer4ever]

The biggest problem with these people or media making these asinine arguments is that they seem to feel that Gameplay and Graphics are somehow mutually exclusive, that you can't have one without the other. It's nothing but smoke and mirrors to make a point about nothing.

At the moment one of these next gen consoles plays the SAME EXACT game available on both at a high resolution and better framerate! And one is $100 more expensive!

[badz149]

Seriously...is this article trying to say that 1080p is PS4 and gameplay is Xbone? Or Wii U? Or is the article strying to say that we can't have 1080p AND great gameplay? In his delusional world, gamers can only choose one but never both?

OMG, what a terrible delusion he's having? I guess when he sees inFamous Second Son he'll start saying "what is this witchcraft?"

@MidnytRain

Yeah, you keep arguing about the word "FREE" while PS+ users continue to enjoy these benefits that you are so reluctant to call as "FREE"

[levian]

Why does it have to be a choice between 1080p and good gameplay? It's not like making a game in 1080p is so time demanding that you just can't make a good game.

As to people not buying a game on XB1, well if you have both systems the choice comes down to:

1- which system are my friends playing this on? Choose this one

2- If it's single player, or your friends don't have the game, get it for the system that it looks and performs better on. OR, which system you prefer the controller for, if that's a big deal for you

[SpiralTear]

Well said bubble, and I agree.

The resolution argument on its own is rather insignificant, but the fact that the PS4 is cheaper while still providing an improved resolution makes a big difference here. It's more a debate on value, not horsepower.

And the gameplay argument, as iamnsuperman said, is valid, but it's hard to substantiate it when so many other factors are in play. I'm not a fan of trying to compare different games in the resolution argument. If the two versions play noticeably differently (which for multi-platform games is very rare, at least from what I've seen), then the gameplay argument can work. For the most part, however, multi-platform games play very similarly to each other, so the gameplay argument doesn't really have enough steam to make a lot of sense in this context.

[nypifisel]

I think there's a really faulty thought behind that argument "Gameplay is more important", yes sure but why would that exclude better performance/graphics? It's not like you can't have both at the same time. :S One does not exclude the other so to say.

[madpuppy]

"1080p vs Better Gameplay"

That statement alone Stinks with fanboy (or possibly corporate) damage control.

The PS4 has and will continue to have games with great gameplay that also happen to run at 1080p, the statement above is just a pathetic way to make people agree with a statement that happens to be true without any context, and then applying it to the Xbone vs PS4 debate.

Granted, the Xbone will most likely have great gaming experiences that are exclusive, but, as for multi-plats the PS4 will have EVERYTHING the Xbone version has AND higher resolution. And lets be honest, There are a lot more multiplat games made than first party exclusives. Even that being the case, Sony's First party developers make award winning games with excellent gameplay in 1080p or close to it.

Once again, articles like these are a stealth attempt to coerce the reader into agreeing with a relatively true statement, and then shoehorning that statement into a debate that has noting to do with gameplay AT ALL and everything to do with
convincing people that the Xbone is better than the PS4 even though it has less powerful hardware and is more expensive.

[webeblazing]

lol you would pay what ever price they charge you. people said that before then games increased to $60. i bet if they said games are getting more expensive to make, and we are now charging $70 people will still buy it.

i think hes saying people choose different reasons why they buy a console over another. and thats why i think people move over to ps because ms hasnt been bringing exclusives in the last couple of years to their platform. but he kinda lose me in this article with the examples like you said.

[GarrusVakarian]

"lol you would pay what ever price they charge you. "

Speak for yourself. I said i wouldn't pay above £40 for any next gen game and so far i haven't. Even my most anticipated games like Driveclub, Halo 5, Uncharted 4 and The Order will not be bought at day 1 if i can't find them for £40 or less.

Hooray for strong willpower!

[madpuppy]

@Lukas_Japonicus,

Bravo! Finally someone gets it! I have been saying that the best way to defend against threats by publishers to increase prices (see Robert Kotick's statement about wanting to increase their game prices to 70.00 and up) Is to wait and purchase the games you want when they reach the price that you feel it is worth.

Such a simple thing, and next to impossible for the average gamer.

[MarcGorgees]

because we want 1080p !! daaa
we want something can compare with pc not a stupid xbone that compare with cable box lol ... it's a gaming console not a x cable box losers .. if you don't like 1080p then don't buy any console just stick with your N64

[Why o why]

Metal gear

The ps4 has the better tech, better resolution without damaging the fps or game play. Loaded question fallacy. Better is better. . but the damage control continues. The proof is out there.

[yewles1]

"I highly doubt that. Would you pay 60 bucks for a really low resolution game/a 64 looking game?"

That was part of the problem withe N64. Due to it's cartridge media being expensive to produce, you DID pay from $60 to $90 for most games...

[MeLoveRamen]

I don't understand the whole 1080p vs better gameplay. We buy new consoles for better graphics and experiences. Most people are going to buy the console thats the better value and the ps4 just gives you more bang for your buck when it comes to hardware. And with Sony their is not 1080p vs gameplay because we all know from last gen that Sony brings innovation to the graphic and gameplay department in the console space.

Sony had the best graphical games that innovated with cinematic camera angles, gigantic boss fights while you have big ass titans climbing mount Olympus with Uncharted and God of War respectfully. Also The Last of Us nuff said.

Sony also innovates in gameplay department as well. They were the first ones who came out with create, play, share with littlebigplanet and modnation racers, made an open world superhero game infamous that there where none like it during its time

Sony also takes risk on different types of gameplay with games like heavy rain, beyond two souls, unfinished swan, rain and one of the best games of last gen journey.

So guess what? I don't have to choose between 1080p vs better gameplay because i know that Sony is gonna bring both.

Also the N64 argument is dumb because back then was really the first console gen that had 3D mario and beautiful games like wave race and pokemon snap that could stand up against a lot of ps1 games.

[Sarcasm]

Pretty much.

They are trying to make an argument for gameplay over graphics, yet the SAME games are 1080p on the PS4 for $100 less compared to the X1 at 720p.

Even if both were the same price, that doesn't discount it's still better on PS4.

Part of why the 360 succeeded especially in third party games is because it was the cheaper console with arguably the better version on multi platform games.

Now it's reversed in which the PS4 is both cheaper, runs games better and in higher resolutions.

This is just getting more and more ridiculous how ignorant people are CHOOSING to be on this.

[Dasteru]

Yes i would pay $60 for a game with N64 visuals. I payed $90 for Conkers Bad Fur Day about a year ago.

I'm currently playing through FFVIII and intend to start up LoD right after. I would gladly pay $100 for a sequel/prequel to either, even with the original visuals. I pay for games to play, not mantle pieces to stare at. Gameplay>Graphics at any extreme.

[nycgamer4ever]

Please don't take this the wrong way but either you are a collector or you have more money than sense. Pretty sure you can download a rom for that game. And before you bring up the pirating card, $80 for that game is a used cartridge so the developers won't see a penny. A new one cost over $200 easily.

[Dasteru]

While i am also a collector, paying $90 for conkers, or anything else i said before, has nothing to do with that. I also play the games. The reason i purchased the cart instead of just using ROMs has nothing to do with being against piracy, i just prefer to play the game on the original console with the original controller. Also alot of N64 games still have issues in emulation for some reason. Conkers is one of them.

Regardless, Gameplay>Graphics always. More than half of my top 10 games of all time, are on the SNES. Anyone who chooses graphics over gameplay is not a real gamer.

Think of it this way, which would you rather play, A direct remake of HAZE on the PS4 made with Cryengine 3 or Half life 2 as is?. I think the answer should be fairly easy.

[Kayant]

"On a simple PC screen, that is already huge if it reaches 32″, the difference is so small, that you barely notice. And for a console, how many people connect them to screens that are bigger than 50″, after all? I think that not many. And if you try to notice the difference the game doesn’t make you concentrate that much on the game, but on graphics, which brings me to the most important point of this article." - Sigh not this BS again.

" I strongly doubt that I would enjoy it more in 60FPS than in 30FPS. I would enjoy it more if it had better gameplay" - Strongly disagree. Especially after I started to play on PC more even if it's on a Laptop GPU (HD4000) the difference between 30fps and 60fps in some games can be a deal breaker. It doesn't mean everything has to be 60fps but some genres need/prefer a lot from 60fps.

I really don't think developers will be compromising their vision just to run a game at a higher resolution.

Also the only reason the resolution debate is such a hot topic is because about 80% (made up but majority of games) of games are multiplats so a cheaper console having framerate,resolution, AA etc advantages over the other is important. Obviously for some people that wouldn't matter as much because things like friends, ecosystem matter more to say it doesn't matter or it isn't important is BS.

Also iamnsuperman makes a good point about the nintendo 64 argument.

[SilentNegotiator]

I want both. K, bro?

[DigitalRaptor]

I know. I mentioned this on Dragon's blog the other day.

There's this stupid pre-conception that you can't have both. It's mutual exclusivity or bust with these folks. PS4 has both. Most of the multiplats are the same gameplay, so having a better resolution and frame rate is naturally a better option.

I would've thought people had figured this out by now.

[Are_The_MaDNess]

@"On a simple PC screen, that is already huge if it reaches 32″, the difference is so small, that you barely notice."

looks like someone dont know how PC monitors work......
the PPI is much much higher on a highgrade monitor than a TV ever will be unless its a 4k tv

its 2014 people, 1080p@60fps should be THE standard no matter what...... i guess im just spoiled with my PC gaming, but this is just sad in my eyes. something that have been a standard for so many years now and consoles cant keep up.

and dont say that Zelda Ocarina of Time dont look better in 1080p either at the higher framerate of an emulator.

[SilentNegotiator]

More like, "never played a game on PC". I'm rocking much smaller than 32" and I can definitely tell the difference.

I'm sick of all of the "you can't tell a difference" people. What bulls**tters.

[Are_The_MaDNess]

yeah. i can clearly see a HUGE difference on my 3 24inch screens.
its so damn obvious when a game is locked at 720p is at 720p as the default settings.

[GarrusVakarian]

Lol yeah, i remember all those guys. "There's hardly a difference between 720p and 1080p, you need at least a 50 inch TV tell...and even then, you need to sit 3 feet away to notice it". Lmao.

Absolute BS. My friend has 2 identical 24 inch Samsung monitors, one for his PS3 and one for his PC, when he plays TLOU or any other ps3 game on one of his monitors the jaggies are so blatant. It doesn't matter what the screen size is, the lower the res, the worse the image quality. Fact. Over 1 million pixels difference doesn't just suddenly become "hardly different".

Even from 10 feet away from my 42 inch TV i can tell the difference easily between 720, 900 and 1080p. It amazes me how some people even think there is an argument to be had. Even yesterday, after borrowing Ryse from a friend, it was blatantly visible that it wasn't as crisp or as clear as my 1080p games. The upscaled 900p was both jaggy and blurry...weird combo.

I played Infamous SS for days on end exclusively, then i got my X1 and as soon as i played Titanfall i could instantly tell the difference in res. Infamous being 1080p and TF being 792p. Not that it bothers me....because TF more than makes up for in gameplay what it lacks in visuals. But my point is that the only people who dispute res differences are the people who only own an X1. Ironically, they are the same people who made a big deal over the 360's multiplats having ever so slightly higher resolutions and better looking grass on the 360.

[SilentNegotiator]

"my 3 24inch screens"

Multi-monitors, eh?
Is your name "Smuckers"? Cause you just made me jelly.

[ShowGun901]

this is pretty simple actually... go to any site that has screenshots between 720 and 1080... if you cant tell the difference, you're blind. it just looks like they tightened up the focus. theres a huge differece! plus, everybody i know has a +50" tv. its very common, heck you can get one @ walmart for around $500. its not an unreachable goal anymore. I've got my ps4 hooked up to a 1080 projector on a 106" screen... believe me, 720 vs 1080 is drastic on that.

[theXtReMe1]

I agree. Projector gamer here at 120". Huge difference between 720p and 1080p. there is even a quite noticeable difference from 960p and 1080p. Picture is blurrier, more aliasing, less color saturation.

While Battlefield 4(at 960p) was better textured, COD(1080p) looked more next gen to me, because there wasnt a jaggy in sight, the colors popped and it looked cleaner and crisper.

Most everyone I know has a screen over 50". Resolution makes a huge difference in image quality, even with TV Shows. With 720p programming having the very same issues as mentioned above, with games.

Hopefully, almost every PS4 games will be 1080p this gen.

[nycgamer4ever]

@theXtreme1

Yeah there is even a difference in 900p or 960p and 1080p cause any signal less than native will get upscaled by the console and that usually cause some blurring.

[Flyingdog670]

Why not both? What if a game has both 1080p and great gameplay? What's your argument then?

[nypifisel]

There is none, cause the two are not mutually exclusive. Which is why its such a stupid argument to begin with!

[kingduqc]

Cause with console you are always limited...

in 3 years 1080p 60 fps will be the exception rather then the standard. So sad since 1440p 60fps was so 2 years ago

[svoulis]

This article is pretty pointless. I especially like this part

"But you can play it in 1080p and 60FPS on PS4, but just 30FPS on Xbox One. And for some people that is a deal breaker. I strongly doubt that I would enjoy it more in 60FPS than in 30FPS. I would enjoy it more if it had better gameplay."

I assume they are referring to Tomb Raider: DE.

The gameplay is actually better with 60FPS in everycase. It feels smoother and more responsive, so yes I would pick it up on the PS4 if I had the choice cause the gameplay would in fact be a better experience. So that statement they made is pretty redundant to the entire argument. If anything it further validates why having a "better" version of the game is in fact a better reason to own the better console.

""I don’t want to start another fight between the PS4 and Xbox One fan boys. But I don’t understant why a lot of people don’t buy the Xbox One because a lot of games do not run in 1080p. ""

Its about value, a lot of people who are just getting into the console market or are upgrading want the better VALUE. IF more games are coming out with better graphics on console A for less money you will see more people buying it. IT has a lot to do with it.

The writer seems to be very confused with how this all works and I don't understand that. They talk about gameplay and how important it is over graphics and in most cases that is true. Gamers are investing in a product long before it will show its potential (especially at launch) between limited launch titles and possible hardware problems we are taking a risk and putting our trust into said company.

At that point its not about the gameplay but what the PLATFORM promises to offer the gamers in the FUTURE. People see what Sony did with PS3 and how they went from bottom to top before the end of its life. They saw the amount of exclusives and the change in Sony enough to trust them this time around wholeheartedly. IF a game plays identical on both platforms but looks better on one, why wouldn't you get the one it not only looks better on but cost less?

[Neo111]

third world dilemmas... it is so simple: if you have good PC, you have 1080p (soon 4K) + Better Gameplay. why choose if you can have both? :)

[nix]

you know maybe for exclusive "games" which comes out "only" on consoles.

[Neo111]

yes, 10 exclusives per year... on PC you have hundreds exclusives per year :)

[ColonelRex]

Why must it be 1080p vs. great game play? Why cant we want and have both?

[MasterCornholio]

I know what you mean. There are great games on the PS4 that run in 1080P.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xb...

[DynDasE]

This is hilarious. PS4 is capable of 1080P, while it is not dragging the overall graphic and frame rate so much.

If developer cap the same framerate in PS4 as same as in Xbox One, the game on PS4 will be much smoother anyhow. Xbox One couldn't handle stable 30FPS in some games too.

[Bigpappy]

This is not about is about trade offs, not if PS4 games can out perform X1 games. As it stand right now most of them do. The question is should the be 1080p with a Lower frame rate or may be, let's say 960p at 60fps locked with wide opened worlds, particle and material effects with life like animation and life like Ai.

Forget the war for a bit and respond to that. I seem even on PS4, developers are having difficulties bringing all the bells and whistles at the moment, and need to make some trade offs. Which do you prefer.

[GutZ31]

How many years did it take the PS3 and xbox360 to get all those bells and whistles?

How long have the PS4 and xboxone been out?

You have fallen on your sword good sir, please bandage yourself.
GeOW xbox360 launch title
http://upload.wikimedia.org...

Resistance fall of man ps3 launch title
http://upload.wikimedia.org...

[iceman06]

The sacrifices will ALWAYS be made in the interest of getting the game to market in the "launch window". What we are seeing is the same thing we see every generation. Games that don't take full advantage of the hardware that they are on. The tools are not as evolved as they will be next year or years down the line.
In answer to your question...I would like the devs to shoot for as high as they can possibly get while not compromising their vision on each console. If that means that one isn't quite as high, then so be it.

[Milesprowers]

60fps is more important then 1080p.. even SNES and Megadrive ran at 60fps (or 50fps if PAL). Try playing Super Mario World at 30fps.

[Baka-akaB]

It varied a lot for games and their genres even in the 16 bits era , so its not really true .

For a while it was even mostly fighting games then a few gens later a few racers with some scarce exceptions in platform and action games .

Daytona usa on Saturn ran around 20 fps . F zero X on n64 was i believe the first (or one of the very first) 60 fps racing game on consoles .

And of course just like our current era , many games targeted 60, but in reality do not manage to stay there while the game is being played .

SF2 on megadrive dipped frequently and wasnt as smooth than on snes

[Milesprowers]

Sonic the hedgehog 2 ran at 60 fps on the Sega Genesis.

[Baka-akaB]

I know , so did rayman 1 and/or 2 , it's one of the exceptions i mentioned , hardly the norm . And sonic 2 still had a few slowdowns . Not a framerate drops , wich would make it choppy , but a few placed slowdown , keeping the experience smooth and agreable

[urwifeminder]

I got into gaming long before P'S were so highly rated I wish I had not wasted that 20 years as they were not true games they lacked all the P power.

[AceBlazer13]

The year is 2014 and 8th gens in I shouldn't have to choose.Thank god I don't have to with inFamous being fun and 1080p so my damn tv i saved for doesn't have a useless 1080p output. I get it gameplay is important blah blah.But consoles are already so far behind pc, isn't 1080p the least I can ask for?

[ShowGun901]

they're only "so far behind pc" if you're including pc's that you'd never want to pay for in that equation. yes, a $1,000 pc will put the ps4 to shame. so will a $2,000 pc. but a $400 pc? not really. its all about price. a Lambo will outrun my hyundai, too. im not going to drop +$100,000 on a car either. (not this year anyway :P)

[Baka-akaB]

you're going into two extreme there however . A good 400$ gaming dedidcated pc is literally impossible or more accurately meh . However around a sweet spot like 600-700 it's more than likely going to outperform the hell of a ps4 and xb1 .

[incendy35]

If you want the best your TV can do, Forza 5 is the only AAA exclusive that does 1080p and 60fps. It is available exclusively on the Xbox One.

[nix]

wait what?

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xb...

[incendy35]

@nix: thank you for posting that to prove that the PS4 has no AAA Exclusives that run 1080p 60fps.

[ShowGun901]

(lets not mention all they had to cut out of the game to reach this pointless benchmark!)

yay! go forza!

1080/60 isn't SO important i want a gimped game.

[incendy35]

What has next gen brought us so far.

1. Advanced AI generated by big data.
2. Over 1000 AI on screen at one time.
3. Dedicated multiplayer servers for all players.
4. True multitasking on Consoles.

All these were brought to you by the Xbox One.

[quenomamen]

You can add these as well,

5. Majority of multiplatforms games running at sub 1080p
6. Netflix & Amazon behind paywalls
7. Weaker selection of free games with paid subscription
8. Weaker hardware

[Kayant]

1. "Advanced AI generated by big data." - So far used in one game (Forza 5)

2. "Over 1000 AI on screen at one time." - Ok because every game needs 1000 mindless A.I running around the screen.

3. "Dedicated multiplayer servers for all players." - Available in only 2 games so far (Forza 5 and TF). You're acting like dedicated servers are new to consoles.

4. "True multitasking on Consoles" - Looool yes because the being able to switch between apps in background with a button press isn't multitasking /s
With your logic phones/tablets don't apply "true" multitasking since you can't run two apps at the same time.

[Rageanitus]

If you want both get point towards PC gaming. In the long run like every generation developers have to make sacrifices.... and this INCLUDES the so called learning curve and optimizations.

I play on all platforms but consoles tend not to keep up cuz I need both graphics and gameplay. The mains reasons consoles do well is because each platform has their own sets of exclusives.

All platforms have gameplay and it is nice to have higher FPS at higher resolution.

[windblowsagain]

Lets put it this way.

If the xboxone ends up with a better framerate is better looking graphics over the PS4 version. Then the dev has truly fuked up.

[quenomamen]

I guess the multiplats on X1 play better than PS4 versions cuz theyre only 720p.

[Vip3r]

This is just a "bbbbbut it's all about the gamez", unlike last gen which was constant "360 has better multiplats".

Honestly, if your spending ~£500 on a new "next gen" console, 1080p should be the standard resolution. If it can't do that, it's not worth the money or the respect.

In 2014, playing games in 720p isn't good enough in my opinion.

And before any calls me a fanboy or a graphics wh*re, I really don't care. 1080p really does make the difference and since these companies are charging us so much money and under delivering in various aspects, they deserve harsh critique.

[iceman06]

So true. I don't remember ANY sites running around with their collective heads on fire trying to defend the PS3 in it's struggling days. In fact, it was quite the opposite. The gaming media pretty much harped each and every time that the Xbox version ran better, looked better, was more stable, etc. Now, that has changed somehow!?! Makes me wonder what changed their minds?
This isn't, or shouldn't be, a fanboy crusade to make one console look better than the other. It should simply be about truth and fairness. In truth, these consoles should be able to deliver both. In truth, one console thus far is having a less difficult time doing this. In truth, the other console's supporters shouldn't just except that it can't happen. Also, in truth, the generation has just begun and tools and resources are raw. So, maybe expectations are a bit too high for the first year. But, in years to come this SHOULDN'T be an issue.

[Predaking77]

I dont get why do we have to decide one point over the other when we can have both. I choosed a PS4 because I can have both the main features I like, power and gameplay. There are other customers who are not looking for those features so I think this is a matter of what are you looking for. In my personal opinion, I invested in a next gen console that could bring me the more powerful experience but I cannot pretend everybody thinks like me.

[lonewolfjedi]

why can't I have both?

[madpuppy]

Well, well, well, I guess all the Xbox 360 gamers were and are completely WRONG about third party games being better on the 360 over the PS3?

That is, If "NOW" resolution doesn't matter anymore....

(talk about hypocrites...sheesh!)

[Sci0n]

Exactly there mindsets this gen just erases there whole argument last gen on why the 360 was better then the ps3.

[mysteryraz11]

its to expensive for consoles to aim for resolutions higher then 1080p well possibly I mean the ps3 and 360 were using high end hardware for that period of time, but sony had to sell there buildings to make more profits so a high end console isnt a good idea right now that would make huge losses, dont know about microsoft though, are they doing good enough were they can afford hardware losses, if nintendo is so profitable and safe why did they make the wii u so weak why not make it atleast a 2 or 3 terraflop console, makes no sense

[KinjoTakemura]

As the days and months go on, it seems like Microsoft and Xbox1 fanboys seem to be discussing the completely unremarkable and touting it as ingenious and innovative. Dedicated servers are nothing remarkable, The ps4 is easily capable of allowing players to watch a movie and play a game at the same time. And where do I begin with the voice commands? LOL Before the release of Xbox1 the commercials seem to promote voice commands more than the machine itself. There is nothing innovative or remarkable about the Xbox1. Oh wait, there is something remarkable about it... Even after you pay for Xbox live, Microsoft wants you to pay another fee to access apps that you use for everything from watching TV to ordering movies. Now that in itself is truly remarkable.

[GodGinrai]

I cant tell how good a game is below 1080P...Its all such a blur /s....

[baraka007]

if resolution and graphics don't matter then why are you even buying a new console at all...? For the features? What features are worth 400-500 dollars? Why can't they come to current consoles? The only feature I can see that everyone is even talking about is the cloud thing. Which everyone is talking about how it will make games look better and run better... which then why again are you saying graphics and res doesn't matter.? Also I would like to point out that if running games smoother always wins out and makes for better gameplay... then are you going to concede that PC gaming is better? Because you know they can run all their games at 60+ FPS right?

[DJ]

It's because things have changed and consoles are kind of like performance cars. You should be paying for its abilities, and somehow the Xbox One ended up being pricier AND only half the power of PS4. Both have great online services and media/social capabilities. So really the only difference between them is raw horsepower.

It's just smart consumerism. If one product is cheaper and more powerful than the other, you typically go with the cheaper more powerful console. Most people can't afford to buy both, and game development has gotten so expensive that very few console exclusives are appearing.

[Kaze88]

I would rather compare framerate vs 1080p than gameplay because the gameplay is always the same...no matter what the resolution is. ofc ppl would rather choose 30fps/1080p game than 30fps/720p or 60fps/1080p than 60fps/720p and why wouldnt you if you had the option to choose?

For example BF4 i would rather choose ps4 900p/60fps instead x1 720p/60fps if i had that choice.

On thief i would choose x1 900p/30fps instead of ps4 1080p/choppy 30fps.

[wcas]

There is no dilemma here for me as a consumer. PS4 is cheaper and more powerful. I want the best possible quality for the money plain and simple. Why pay more for a less powerful X1 unless you are a die hard Xbox person. I bought PS4 first, more bang for your buck. I bought X1 later because I have primarily played xbox since it's beginning. If I could only get one however, why would I pay more for less?

[Ripco_Keller]

You assume we are choosing between 1080p and better gameplay,the PS4 has both.

[Chard]

It's totally reasonable to expect native 1080p from this gen of consoles. PC has done it for ages and is moving toward 4K. Most HDTV's are 1080p, and it just looks nicer when you're able to have the game's native resolution match the TV's resolution.
I'm sorry it's so hard for people to understand that gameplay quality is entirely up to the talent of the developer, not the resolution.