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Black Ops 4 Has a 50 GB Update If You're Buying Physical

Activision has today shared information regarding the install and day one update for Black Ops 4, and it's not good news for physical buyers.

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Switch4One2019d ago

Wow! What's the point of buying physical if you have to download 90% of the game anyway?

Crispyleeks2019d ago

Yeah, it kind of defeats the point of buying physical, aside from being able to trade it in if you're not a fan. I'm still more tempted to buy digital just for the convenience though now.

4Sh0w2019d ago

Yet again another reason that makes digital my preferred method of purchase, its not like physical is so much quicker for initial gameplay but even if it was, never having to handle the disc again, switching between games, collection all in one spot, auto updates etc are just too many conveniences over the life cycle of gameplay to make me go back to digital.

darthv722019d ago (Edited 2019d ago )

So the total install size of both physical and digital is around 55gb and yet the physical purchaser is going to have to basically download 95% of the game all over again to patch what is installed from the disc.

Why the hell dont Activision just delay the release to fix the issue with the physical games so its the same build as the digital one? Press a whole bunch of new discs with the current version of the game.

Unless the physical disc really only contains the first 5gb and nothing more, which then leads to downloading the rest of the game...?

Newmanator2018d ago

Conspiracy Theory: they inflate the download size to get you to buy digital to reduce the second hand games market for BOPS4

EmperorDalek2018d ago

@Newmanator... That doesn't sound so crazy actually, I could believe that.

Clunkyd2018d ago

Yeah, too bad that digital copy is worth $0 once you buy it.

kparks2018d ago

I don't like how if something happens to your account.. ban or lose it some how you can kiss your thousands of dollars in games goodbye that's BS

Skull5212018d ago (Edited 2018d ago )

Kinda ruins the argument that if the digital distributors disappear so do your games, it’s applicable to physical as well.

It’s really just a small segment of older gamers who are holding onto physical, resistant to change, the younger generation and intelligent gamers imbrace it.

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81BX2018d ago

@Darth
Why delay the game when it's fixed by a patch?

Skankinruby2018d ago

BINGO, that sure is the million dollar question isn't it? Of course physical nazis insist trade-in value and sharing with your friends is a significant selling point but it's just not. If they cut drm physical games are Dino tech immediately.

2pacalypsenow2018d ago

Physical nazis? Fuck me for wanting to have the option of reselling my game right?

PapaBop2018d ago

Did you seriously just compare those of us who like our physical releases to a political ideology that is responsible for committing genocide?

Skankinruby2018d ago (Edited 2018d ago )

@PapaBop
I don't mean nazis as in Hitler followers you illiterate moron, it's also a term used to describe people who shove their opinion down your throat and preach it as factual.

Phoenix762018d ago (Edited 2018d ago )

@Skankinruby
Physical Nazi?!?
Wow. You sound like a Digital Fascist.

UltraNova2018d ago (Edited 2018d ago )

"I don't mean nazis as in Hitler followers you illiterate moron, it's also a term used to describe people who shove their opinion down your throat and preach it as factual."

Physical was here first. It has been and still is the standard. So the people who shove their opinion down your throat and preach as you so...delicately put it are those who prefer digital today and are trying to change the standard!

So be a good lad and f*** off nicely.

Skankinruby2018d ago

@UltrNova
'So the people who shove their opinion down your throat and preach as you so...delicately put it are those who prefer digital today and are trying to change the standard!'

Are you serious? You really think people expressing their opinion on Internet forums are trying to change anything? That 'standard' is changing all on its own wether you like it or not, digital sales are gaining market share year over year. These 'standards' are the best available option at the time and as technology progresses certain products get left behind. I don't give two shits what you or any other loudmouth on these forums buy, nor have I ever judged anyone for their preference. I love digital games for the convenience and sales show that I am by no means alone in this opinion as digital is gainin significant market share year over year. Just like cassettes, cds, vhs, dvds, cartridges, all of of which were at one point the 'standard' physical games will get left behind. Digital is good for production costs as well and you better believe developers are on board with shifting in this direction. A handful of loud mouths on the the internet isn't going to change the obvious.

notachance2018d ago

lol for someone who thinks he's "not judging anyone by their preference" you sure are easy to throw words like physical nazi, illiterate moron, and loud mouths around

the shining example of internet indeed

"I don't mean nazis as in Hitler followers you illiterate moron, it's also a term used to describe people who shove their opinion down your throat and preach it as factual."
you mean like you did with these comments? should've bought digital mirror too along with all your digital purchase mate

DarXyde2018d ago (Edited 2018d ago )

Skankinruby,

Some of us like our bandwidth. Some of us live in areas with data caps. I'm not going to get on a soapbox and tell you why digital is bad; while I prefer physical, I do, from time to time, buy digital. But yes, I do like to borrow and lend games. I do like to just bring games where the save data doesn't matter to a friend's house and play sometimes without dragging my console because they already have one. I don't like to be dependent on an internet connection to acquire my games. I'm all for choice, personally. I am curious though...can you prove that resale value is not a significant selling point? From where I stand, it seems GameStop survives largely on used game sales. Additionally, Walmart started selling used games and Amazon has a pretty good-sized market for used titles. I'm not sure you have facts on your side there, but maybe you know something that I don't.

I should add, Black Ops 4's update does not affect me at all since I'm not buying it (I'm here to read about any reasoning they may have provided). Doesn't make my opinion any less valid, however.

P.S., if you want people to consider your position and take you a bit more seriously, I would recommend laying off the personal attacks. They're childish.

EDIT:

"Just like cassettes, cds, vhs, dvds, cartridges, all of of which were at one point the 'standard' physical games will get left behind. "

CDs still exist. New albums are available physically. Cartridges lack the storage capacity of the discs that came after them. VHS was replaced by another physical medium, DVD. DVD was replaced by another physical medium, Blu-Ray. You can definitely still buy new movies (as well as old remastered movies) on Blu-ray. You mention a natural evolution of formats but completely ignore the formats existing alongside digital distribution. Digital has not killed Blu-Ray. They exist contemporaneously.

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the worst2018d ago

The point is when Im done with the game I can sell it

JackBNimble2018d ago

Well then who cares how much of this game is down load then, at least you still have the physical copy to resell in your hands.

Eidolon2018d ago

i thought the whole point of buying physical was the fact that you owned the game. Who the F buys it to avoid downloads?

dumahim2018d ago

People with limited bandwidth, people with a monthly cap, etc..

Eidolon2018d ago

Any article about digital only consoles. the only point brought across about physical copies is that you own it, and it has value, can touch it, collect it. I have never seen someone comment about bandwidth limitations on those types of articles. NOW it's okay to say it when it's COD?

angelsx2018d ago

I'm going physical f . . k it

Zjet2018d ago

It also has a mandatory patch, even the physical game is locked down like COD WWII.

Confirmed on Reddit update is required

JackBNimble2018d ago

Isn't this CoD the one with out a single player campaign, so isn't it going to be online only anyway?

EazyC2018d ago

Isn't that how it works though? I thought the disc is only read to make sure you own the game. You have to install all your games to the drive, on PS4 anyway

dumahim2018d ago

The game is usually mostly included on the disc and installs off of the disc. The only thing that it is downloading is any update patches so installing off of the disc is typically much quicker than downloading.

CurbStompin2018d ago

Well resale value, that's the only reason anyone buys physical.

Physgamer2018d ago

Not true I simply don't have internet nor do I have the ability to get it I live with my grandad who does not believe in internet plus I have played plenty of games on my ps4 without internet access and before u ask I'm typing this on,my phone and no I don't have a hotspot

JackBNimble2018d ago

You don't have internet, so explain how you plan on playing this game?
There is no SP portion of the game so that means it's online only.

TheDriz2018d ago

I bet its activision trying to force people to go digital. I am digital only anyways so I don't really care. People are going to be mad but as a business owner I don't blame a company trying to maximize profits.

Kumakai2018d ago

exactly. thats why i don't buy physical anymore. not only do you not have to deal with stock or lines or driving, or backorders, scratched or lost media, but a year into owning a game, its not even the same game that released on the disc. physical is dying and the stats actually show it.

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inxine2018d ago

the fuck? why did i pre-order the disk if i have to download 50 gb anyways lol

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playnice2018d ago

If the physical version of Red Dead Redemption requires that too I will delay my purchase a couple years until I get a decent internet and I grab the game at 10-15$... give us two discs damn it! Blu Ray are dirt cheap nowadays!?!

dumahim2018d ago

Sure, but if it's 105 GB, it isn't fitting on two discs anyway.

playnice2018d ago

I don't understand all the complexity of video game programming but I can't imagine they don't have enough of 100GB? I mean it's not like they have pre-rendered 4K cutscenes... Why can't they do something like offer to compress a few textures with options to download higher fidelity ? My PS4 Pro does render games wayyyy better than my switch but damn I can fit probably 20 games in 100 GB!

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Cancelled Call of Duty Game "NX1" Gameplay Footage, Black Ops 4 "War" Mode" Surface

A cancelled Call of Duty game titled "NX1" had footage surface online, along with a Black Ops 4 unreleased mode called "War."

RaidenBlack81d ago

looks like the OG Infinite Warfare

Profchaos81d ago

Yeah it does look good wonder why it was canned

EvertonFC81d ago

Probably a proper game with no MT and they didn't see any profits 😂🤣

Name Last Name81d ago

That Neversoft logo took me back to Tony Hawk days. Sad to see this cancellation led to the studio closure.

Juancho5181d ago

It’s always sad to see great concepts destroyed so deep into development. They obviously had a lot of ideas and aren’t happy about it. Now withe layoffs even more videos like this will surface soon.

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Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 - Cancelled Campaign Details Leak, Four Years Later

Details of the cancelled campaign from Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 – the only game in the franchise without a dedicated single-player mode – have been leaked after four years.

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Xbox Fans Call Out 'Activision's Greed' Over Call Of Duty Digital Prices

This week's Deals with Gold selection on Xbox has rubbed certain Xbox fans the wrong way, as several Call of Duty titles are still ludicrously priced - despite being discounted by up to 67% off over the next few days.

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VersusDMC958d ago

How is 20 dollars for X360 call of duty games "ludicrously" overpriced?

And with Activision's lawer bills skyrocketing at the moment you are not going to be seeing deep discounts for a bit.

Chevalier958d ago

Pretty sure that's the sale off that's 60% off. After the sale ends that 360 game is still listed at $49.99, right not its $19.99 because the 60% off.

VersusDMC958d ago

I guess they can wait for the next sale then.

SullysCigar958d ago

It's nice to see the Xbox community stand up for themselves though. That's been needed for a long time.

InUrFoxHole957d ago

For a long time? Its the reason xbox is killing it this gen.

senorfartcushion958d ago

Lawsuits don’t cost billions, they’re ALWAYS going to be fine for money.

They could stack their bills on the ground and fill half the continent of Africa at this point.

RaiderNation958d ago

Because Xbox fans are so used to playing games on the Xbox EBT subscription service, the idea of paying anything for a game seems ludicrous to them.

MadLad958d ago (Edited 958d ago )

You pay for the service.

Do you have Amazon Video?
Hulu?
Netflix?

It's a subscription service. Not a charity. You're literally going at people over the idea of using a pro consumer service, and that's the real joke here.

thorstein958d ago

When records were sold, they were eventually replaced by tapes, which cost less to manufacture, but more to buy. Then CDs came along and were cheaper to manufacture, but cost more at retail. Digital, of course, is the cheapest yet, but billion dollar corporations want to charge the same.

And no, that money is not going to the person sitting in the chair actually making the game.

It is pure and utter greed from people who don't need any more money.

InUrFoxHole957d ago

Lol calm down Bobby. You crapped on thus franchise.

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autobotdan958d ago (Edited 958d ago )

"Many have also noted how the multiplayer in several of these titles is either dead or filled with hackers, meaning players are paying a hefty sum for a short campaign and potentially some zombie modes."

With these clear truths the decades older COD games should be permanently 19.99 regular price and sale prices 7.99 minimum

autobotdan958d ago

Typo sale prices 2.99 minimum and 9.99 maximum. Older COD tiles seven years old or older should never be over 20 dollars regular price

senorfartcushion958d ago

I have paid less than 3 dollars for some AAA PS4 games, old 360 CoD games should not be $20

FanboysKiller958d ago

Any fps game runs by the quirk engine follows this logic
Eat
Sleep
Die instantly
Repeat
As if the main purpose of the game more of "repeat" than the actual gameplay experience , any noob in this game will tell you his mind stucked in repeating the sequence number of deaths than the gameplay itself , what a complete pile of #.

EvertonFC958d ago

It's why I don't play cod anymore, my 45yr old hands can't compete with these kids 😂 🤣
1 kill to every 10 deaths is not fun

John_McClane958d ago

Don't let that stop you if you enjoy the game, it's actually pretty good for hand/eye coordination.

lipton101958d ago

Try Escape from Tarkov. It forces you to slow down and think. I’m not a fan of the ADD speed of CoD

Father__Merrin958d ago

All the back compat titles are cheap listing when you scroll through them u till you come to black ops it's a complete rip off

Rhythmattic958d ago (Edited 958d ago )

Well... Don't buy it..... Is it really that hard to comprehend?
Everything else you choose to purchase with your hard earned cash , so should games be held to the same reasoning....
Just don't give em the cash....

Entitlement that's bizarre, from the publisher and from the consumer.... Thats pretty fkd up if you think about it...

GhostofHorizon958d ago

It's hilarious that some people don't see this as an option.

MadLad958d ago

Bananas now cost $30 a pound. There's no good reason for it, but if you want bananas, there you go.

You don't have to buy them.

It's about their constant greed when handling the franchise. Nobody has to buy anything, but when a company doesn't follow corporate norms when selling their product; overpricing their old wares just because they can, the consumer is allowed to call that out.

GhostofHorizon958d ago

Consumer can call them out, but I think they are going about it the wrong way.

The reason they get away with everything they do is simply because they can. They can charge $20 for a skin pack because people will gladly buy it. There is plenty of competition for FPS games, it's not like it's a niche market.

I know it's easier to blame and demand better from Activision than people that keep buying these overpriced items. If they weren't being bought, Activision would lower the price though. People like to pretend to take the high road but wouldn't you rather sell the banana for $30 than $3 if people are willing to buy it?

franwex958d ago

@therealtedcruz

I think there’s a virus destroying the banana and may even go extinct. So maybe that’s why.

I think it’s happen before too.

MadLad957d ago

A small subset buys those skins and whatnot. Most players don't. The "whale" mindset is pretty accurate across the board, where there's a small handful who buy a lot, and most who don't buy any. Either way, that means they're imposed on the majority either way.

That's different from overpricing your game though. Activision easily makes their money off every release, then milks it until the next release, then throws it away. They never put significant sales on even a release from several cycles ago. Whether it sells or not.

And I mean, yeah; if I were a business, I'd probably want to make as much money as possible.
But I'm not a business; I'm a consumer, thus I find many businesses to be complete assholes.

Rhythmattic952d ago

And people are still blaming the high prices but suggest they're still wiling to buy it... Not too smart are you peoples....

Its a non regulated pricing structure, sure , many play by the status-quo , but to actually complain by complaining, instead of standing your ground and not buying it, by buying it , you are the reason its happening....

Idiots, Idiots everywhere.... What? So those that are complaining don't want to pay the money, but cant do without it?

FFS. Entitlement level 5000...
Drink some cement and harden the Fk up!

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Sitdown958d ago

The article and title isn't saying that people are buying it, its simply saying that they are calling them out for greed. I guess you had a problem with people calling out Microsoft for trying to increase the price of Live, and don't understand how voicing concern led to them backing away from the decision.

Teflon02957d ago

People need to put that energy into Nintendo's Pricing over Activisions tbh. They're focused on the wrong things

Rhythmattic952d ago (Edited 952d ago )

Greed? Ok... Dont buy it and prove that by being greedy , they got it wrong... Not that hard to understand is it?
To Add... I haven't bought Cod since MW2.... Because of these exact practices.... Fact.

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