Sony's Lack Of PS4 Cross-Play Support Continues To Be An Embarrassment

With Fortnite players unable to keep their progress from PS4 to Switch, it's Sony who once again look like fools.

[ObviousGoldfish]

Almost as embarrassing as their e3 presentation?

[xHeavYx]

So many hurt people with memory issues. There is no need for Sony to allow cross-play at this point, it would be most beneficial for the other 2 companies at the moment.

[starsi360]

I think it would actually be MOST beneficial to gamers and the gaming community. Maybe they should look at it from that angle. You know, the people that throw money at them year after year?

[JaguarEvolved]

PlayStation 4 Total Sales: 78,572,659

Xbox One Total Sales: 37,261,546

Switch Total Sales: 16,671,979

I guess they should be embarrassed judging by their success

[Gunstar75]

What if you play fortnight on switch and PS4 u won't be able to sharw your profile.

Just another anti-consumer move by Sony

[Gazondaily]

"So many hurt people with memory issues. There is no need for Sony to allow cross-play at this point, it would be most beneficial for the other 2 companies at the moment."

Oh so its okay for them to hold your Epic account to ransom? Why not let users unlink the account so they can use it somewhere else?

So many people excusing this BS.

@Jaguar

LOL! Did you just plug in sales figures? 😂

[Smitty2020]

i thought the same, ps4 doesnt need it other companies do!

[RosweeSon]

Exactly it benefits Microsoft most being as they have half the players of course they want it and of course they put pressure on by giving the moral high ground well we’ve done it Sony should too, yeah go back 5 years when 360 was bossing it and they’d (Microsoft) would have agreed to something like that, Hell No, but like the GWG you get now wouldn’t have happened unless Sony started doing it at which point months after xb1 had lauchned they begrudgingly started doing the same and giving free games away, rubbish ones but still. People just love a drama these days and fanboys always gloss over when it suits I’ll game with any company as long as the quality of games is there this Gen it’s all Nintendo and Sony with the quality.

[morganfell]

Let me fix that headline:

Fans of Other Consoles Begging For PS4 Cross-Play Support Continues To Be An Embarrassment

[bluefox755]

@starsi360 Using that logic, why doesn't Sony release their exclusives on Xbox platforms as well? That would be "most beneficial" to gamers. You might even be able to make an argument for that, but you shouldn't discount the role of competition in Sony's success. They're not a charity, they're delivering what gamers want, because they are profit driven, and that is making them successful. If they didn't make business decisions that factor in their competition, and operated like a charity, they would go out of business almost instantly. You have to walk the line between doing things that are "popular", and not doing things that help your competition. Frankly, the crossplay thing seems to be a non-issue for most people outside of those that think it's ammo in the console war.

[Sayai jin]

The length people will go to spin or defend their favorite console is ridiculous. It would be a good thing for Sony to allow cross play. It doesn't have to so with anything with sales or success, it's just the right thing to do.

Giving gamers what they want.

Man this site is toxic.

[trooper_]

Yeah, pretty much.

I wonder where was this fake outcry when Microsoft turned it down?

[Realplaya]

Wouldn’t it be more beneficial to the developer. If I hav a PS4 I’m not going to buy a switch or Xbox because I can play against those people.

[senorfartcushion]

The way you're on the side of a faceless conglomerate....

You're a civilian and a shill - a shill they care nothing about.

[starchild]

It would be good for gamers and good for developers, but of course the first priority for corporate cheerleaders is 'what's good for the company'.

[Papafynn]

☝🏽I have a reason: For the players.

[Markusb33]

Exactly MS would not allow it when they were no top with the 360 and doing timed gta dlc etc but now it's anti consumer. These xb fans are translucent, talk about change the narrative to suit

[xHeavYx]

To all the people saying they this would help gamers and that's what gamers want. The vast majority of people asking for crossplay are Xbox fans.

[tehpees3]

@Blufox755
You what mate? How is adding crossplay going to send them out of business?

[Gazondaily]

The BS arguments these shills are coming out with. It's pathetic.

Why is Sony locking off Epic's account when others aren't?

How are the vast majority of players Xbox players asking for this?

Just plain stupidity.

[WelkinCole]

@starsi360. I throw money at Sony to play games that are only available on the PS4. I don't throw money at Sony so that I can play with Swtich or xbox fans online.

[G3ng4r]

I mean, their e3 conference was fine if you're a hardcore fan of musical chairs. As for crossplay I say let them continue their complacency and hurt themselves.

[Army_of_Darkness]

Want to play with ps4 gamers? Easy. Buy a Ps4! More games and gamers on it then the competition combined anyways 😉

[kreate]

I dont think Sony or playstation fans really care about cross play.

I'd rather Sony spend the money on more games. Not that Sony needs anymore games at this stage.

[neutralgamer1992]

Sony still has more titles that offer cross play than Xbox

So once again

Facts

[NeoGamer232]

The only embarrassment is for gamers that defend sony on this topic.

There is no sensible gaming reason to block crossplay, especially if it is optional and default is off.

Name one gaming reason to block crossplay assuming it is optional and by default turned off?

[r2oB]

My take on the matter is not allowing cross play isn't that big of a deal to most gamers when looking at the whole picture. Sony provides compelling games to gamers, which is why more gamers buy their console. If it were a priority feature, and the PS4 didn't have it, people wouldn't buy it. It's that simple. It's like backwards compatibility, a nice feature, but at the end of the day focusing on providing a user base with more new games is what matters most. Evidence? Despite all these so called "anti consumer" practices, consumers are still buying more PS4s, so they must be doing something right by the consumer.

Einstien said insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different outcome. Well, seems a lot of people are insane because they keep complaining about the same thing, expecting something different. When is this dead horse going to stop being beaten? It's like asking the same girl out time and time again, constantly being rejected. It's embarrassing, give it up, move on. Sony is not going to allow cross play with Xbox One or Switch at this junction.

I'll tell you what. This whole cross play thing is a God send for Microsoft and Nintendo to deflect their own problems and keep their gamers focus away from them. The people so vocal about cross play should have been more vocal towards Microsoft providing compelling games, and Nintendo allowing local back ups in 2018.

[prankster101]

Totally agree.

Losers like Nintendo trying to band together in order to recapture some of the market share that they so arrogantly lost to TWO "startup" rivals - Sony AND Microsoft.

Maybe Nintendo fans need to take some of their ire out on the company so as to ensure that their Switch's aren't just glorified paperweights. Because you know... if it's all about the games, then where were the games?

Bet you're going to get some tard saying "Smash". And? "Daemon". And?

Exactly.

The Switch is a glorified $300 paperweight. For that amount, you can buy a PS4 AND an XBox One.

"Buh buh buh you can take it on the go".

Shut up. I've only ever seen 5 Switch machines in the wild. And the people carrying them are usually sad man-babies.

[Gaming_1st]

Exactly, this benefits the other 2 companies. Why should Sony bend over backwards for these other 2 companies when they have a install base bigger then both combined.

[Aenea]

I agree with you on cross-play, progression saving between consoles is silly that you can't continue on another platform if you want to...

[gamer7804]

well no need for Sony != no need for gamers. Although Fortnite and other games are going to probably make Sony face up to the issue sooner or later or continue with this egg on it's face.

[NewMonday]

it's like demanding Apple bring the App store to Android.

if Sony do this their console business will end, they would rather live with constant complaints.

[KillBill]

The real point is not cross-play but the locking of game data to PS4 where person can't even play on Switch if they chose to go mobile. Because Sony does not allow the data to be shared to another console. I think Epic themselves though can resolve this without Sony's assistance. Just allow players to unlink their data from PS4 and link it to Switch.

[Babadook7]

And yet Sony was the first to have cross platform support.

[The 10th Rider]

So if it's a good thing that they had it first, why isn't it a bad thing that they don't support it now?

[neutralgamer1992]

The 10th

Check your facts they still have cross play with pc

They will never allow cross play with Xbox and that is the right decision

[TekoIie]

@Neutralgamer1992

Okay, so what happens when they're surpassed by both Switch and Xbox in Cross-play support? Everyone's know cross-play was possible between PC and a console but we've never been this close to fully having one community playing together across all platforms and Sony is the one who is stopping it from happening. Not MS, not Nintendo, but Sony.

If your answer to this is "Yeah well Sony don't need to because they're winning" then they deserve to lose some of their market share to make them wake up. Otherwise, we're going to see them go back to having the attitude they had during the PS3 launch.

[Ceaser9857361]

Sony is covered till E3 2019 end so how's it embarrassing? Each and every exclusives show is a system seller so again how's it embarrassing.. Well unless you can't play them or your choice of system cant come close to them then i can understand where you are coming from, hence you can DISAGREE

Well you could say the presentation could have been better or not upto the mark since Sony always stand out better from the rest but embarrassing not at all

[neutralgamer1992]

Bro it's embarrassed because it's up by 45 million so fans of other consoles want to play with the best fans in gaming

Playstation Nation

We don't want to play with Xbox or switch but we will keep our cross play with Pc

[Sayai jin]

You people realize how ridiculous it sounds to talk about console fans vs console fans. It's not some elite club. If someone is a Ninty fan and wants to play Playstation games then they can go and easily buy a PS4 and so on.I have all the consoles and gaming PCs.

[blackblades]

And yet they're still the best place to play.

[neutralgamer1992]

Instead of worrying about cross play other companies need to offer same level of quality experiences games wise

But you will never see Xbox defense force admit to that

[neutralgamer1992]

Obvious

Yes so embarrassing that they still showed more exclusives than ms and Nintendo

Keep begging we the playstation nation don't want to play with anyone else besides the other best platform

Pc

Cross play with the biggest platform in the world. Haters will hate

80 million sold
More exclusives

Yet Sony is anti consumer. Ms is so pro consumer with offering below average games and trying to enforce Drm with always online along with Gaas

[Doge]

Hate to break it to you, but no corporation is gonna give a single toss about anyone online defending them or hating them.

People are just numbers. Numbers are money. Restricting platform login on a 3rd party account because of platform association is garbage, and deserves to be called out on.

[neutralgamer1992]

Doge

Yet somehow playstation has a long history of caring about its fans. Yes these are corporations but one corporation is making excellent games and the other is talking about making games

[Doge]

"A video game company makes games?! They really do care about us!"

You're. Missing. The. Point.

[Petebloodyonion]

Instead of trash talking about How Sony is dominating or crap like that perhaps you should educate yourself on the subject.
Like learning that MS didn't ask for crossplay, nor Nintendo but companies like Bandai-Namco for their fighting games, Epic games for Fortnite, Psyonix with Rocket league and probably a lot of small indy dev.
You know companies that job depend on the success of these games.

But hey, you can also continue to trash talk about the feature and why not call it dumb like Cliff Blizinsky because Lawbreakers was a huge success after the players count drop next to zero. (doubt that he would say the same thing today).

[S2Killinit]

almost as embarrassing as xbone's lack of games?

[neutralgamer1992]

S2

Stop don't you know games don't matter. It's

Bc
Game pass
Ea access

Games don't matter services matter

S/

[starchild]

Uh they both matter. But exclusives are a minority in this industry. People that act like exclusives are everything are out of whack, seriously.

Hypothetically, if I had to choose between losing backwards compatibility on PC but getting two extra exclusives a year or keeping backwards compatibility but not getting those two extra exclusives a year I would choose in a heartbeat to keep backwards compatibility and not get the two extra exclusives.

I honestly don't even care whether a game is exclusive or not. I get no thrill from knowing that gamers on other platforms don't get to play a game.

[S2Killinit]

@Starchild
You are missing the point. We HAVE devices that play those older games, they are PS3/360. So, when making a decision on which console is the best choice, we go by which console offers the more compelling GAMES. They ARE game consoles after all. If all consoles play the same games, then the one with "exclusives" (meaning more games) is the better option. Trying to move the goal posts so far as claiming that having more new games is not determinative of which console is the better one, is a new fad created by PR heads at Microsoft.

[TallonIV]

Sony are an embarrassment for doing this and now they're locking people's accounts they don't even own? How is that allowed.

[ILostMyMind]

Kkkkkk

[Markusb33]

Move on cry babies the best selling console in thr world doesn't nee cross play just like xb didn't allow it when Sony wanted it during the 360 generation.
As for e3 Sony showed gameplay not cgi and not exclusive Ips going to pc.
Oh and xb fans are gushing over yet another new console. So the most powerful console in the world did nothing ?

[AgeInTheCage]

The Embarrassment is showing nothing but multi plat games and trying to pass most of them off as exclusive.

[zodiac909]

You didnt watch the conference if you thought it was bad.

[MIDNIITE_Z3RO]

I'm sure plenty of people will dislike me for saying this, but honestly, I gotta say, I thought Microsoft's press conference was much better than Sony's this year. And I'm being 100% honest. I don't own an Xbox One, I do own a PS4, and I just wasn't blown away by anything, other than maybe The Last of Us 2. I thought Ghost of Tsushima was interesting, and Death Stranding, but Microsoft showed so much. A lot of those titles will be cross platform for Microsoft. But after The Last of Us 2, I may end up selling my PS4 in preparation for the next gen consoles. But I need Sony to turn it up a notch. If they want me to buy a PS5, they need more, better exclusives.

[alstruck]

Why are you thinking about next gen? Buy a ps4, and you dont have to.. Personally, no game tops that look from tsushima's fight with autumn leaves falling

[kowan]

Oh, you mean like Nintendo's?

[nucky64]

F#CK the presentation - i don't care how they show them - i wanted GAMES. and SONY DELIVERED with great GAMES and GAMEPLAY.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

All those great exclusives versus Games I can play on multiple systems? LOL

[RainbowBrite]

Well maybe in some games, like this one. But I don't know. It's something for Sony to decide, if it's convenient or not to their business

[Cmv38]

I get why some ps4 players would be upset, for me only certain titles I would like the feature for. Mainly titles with dying communities. But other than that I don't care. My question is why do people who game on other systems exclusively or mainly care so much about playing with ps4 players... like why does that even matter.

[Markusb33]

It's a false narrative and distraction from the lack of new Ips exclusives and push towards a digital all platform service model

[alstruck]

Not false narrative.. just some parts of the media really bought what microsoft are saying.

[Edito]

It matters because xbox live is a ghost town.

[DeadSilence]

This is bad, Sony needs to get their shit together in regards to their policias.

[Alucard_420]

why?? so they can take a chance and lose some of the player base to the competition??? if that's the case why don't we boycott until all 3 companies become one??? Jesus it is business people......... SONY could lose player to the X because that would be more enticing to play there if I could still play with my PS4 friends, it is a losing cause for SONY honestly

[Alucard_420]

ok lots of people own multiple consoles for exclusives I have PC PS4PRO SWITCH VITA & WII U, if I own a ps4pro and a xbox one x, and cross play is possible. which console do you play it on if you want the best performance???

that is potential player base lost and leaves the door wide open for MS to take more players. PC players don't care about consoles so cross play with them would not be an issue.

you gotta remember this is a business and SONY isn't here to make friends with MS and why would they after how they continuously refused cross play and still did it this gen, they were the first to say no during PS4 and XBone era : https://kotaku.com/final-fa...

I get the strategy behind it, doesn't mean I agree with it tho. Don't take my comment as a stance opposing cross play. I am just being realistic about the situation, and the reality of the matter for SONY is to not do it because they are ahead of the game.

[alb1899]

Incredible how creative ps4's fans get defending something against them ajaja

[Alucard_420]

@alb1899 incredible how uncreative you can be with such a reply. I like gaming I invest, about 5 grand a year on gaming, it is my hobby. You want to label me go ahead, I just don't like XBOX at all as they saturated the market and in my opinion has made gaming worst since the ps2 era. They have created great franchises and games but they also placed policies that created issues like the one I'm discussing unlike you just making fun of people and not being useful about the situation. Like I said I don't agree with the stance they are taking but I do understand it from a "business" point of view. So if you wanna be like that go away kid, I'd much rather speak to someone that has some kind of intelligent thing to say about the topic vs the likes of someone like you.

[Imalwaysright]

"so they can take a chance and lose some of the player base to the competition?"

How? If anything it could be better for them as it possibly could prevent people that want to play with their friends from buying other consoles. This could also ensure that those gamers would spend all the money they have set aside for gaming on their platform instead of giving some of it to MS or Nintendo.

[Alucard_420]

@Imalwaysright oh yeah? do you have proof of that? If so show me!

[Alucard_420]

I figured you had no proof to your claim, it is your opinion and I respect that, but there is no proof. So we will both have to wait with time to see what happens.

[alstruck]

Somehow I saw a sarcasm tone in your post mate, lol..

[SpineSaw]

Sony more than has it's chit together....They have already said "no" to cross-play. They said it as clearly as it could be said........no in no way means yes let's do it or maybe ...they said no! Time to move on.

[maybelovehate]

I don't understand why they are doing this. It isn't their game, Epic should be able to do what they want with Crossplay. Such an anti consumer and also anti partner situation. Sony is only hurting themselves.

[crazyCoconuts]

Sony sees it as their platform and their customers that they're giving Epic access to by allowing a game on their system. In exchange for access to the platform the platform holder gets a cut of all sales. On a free2play game I think the way Sony gets $ is when you buy something like VBucks. So I'm guessing their fear is that you go buy VBucks on some other platform while still playing on theirs, which disintermediates them outta the picture. It's been a long and ongoing struggle with platform holders and publishers, I just think the crazy popularity and unprecedented cross play capability that Fortnite has is bringing to light how crappy that is for the consumer.

[Codedan]

This has always been Sony, they just pretended to be consumer friendly. They have a terrible history with this, and most of the younger generation were not alive during that time.

[madforaday]

Codedan, you do you last generation Sony asked MS for this exact same thing and MS said no, for the same reason why Sony is saying no.

Also, Playstation was one of the first consoles to have cross platform play. I don't know what you mean a terrible history with this when it is almost the complete opposite.

As a gamer myself I am upset with Sony decision but understand it though.

[MonsterChef]

So your comparing the CD copyright fiasco from a different division within Sony to their output in the gaming world? It seems your the one too young to even remember last generation when Sony let people Cross play on unreal tournament with the PC community and would've been ok with letting them Cross play with the 360 community if not for Microsoft. As it stands now, with a larger install base, more daily traffic, what does Sony have to gain by letting platforms with a smaller user bases gain access to almost double (with the Switch ATM, that number is more than double) their total users?

[Imalwaysright]

madforaday

When did Sony ask them? I tried to find it but couldn't find anything about it.

[TekoIie]

@madforaday

"Codedan, you do you last generation Sony asked MS for this exact same thing and MS said no, for the same reason why Sony is saying no."

And we absolutely bashed MS for it if you remember correctly. I know they got bashed for not having crossplay when Portal 2 was announced.

"Also, Playstation was one of the first consoles to have cross platform play. I don't know what you mean a terrible history with this when it is almost the complete opposite."

And do you remember which platform that game was crossplay with??? Hmmm? It was FFXI and it was crossplay with PS2, PC and Xbox 360. So I hate to break it to you but the "BUH SONY WAS FURST" argument doesn't work here.

[TKCMuzzer]

Yeah becasue Microsoft are saints!!! It's true people see what they want to.

[Codedan]

Mad, do you mean when Sony was string hacked constantly, and had a very unstable online infrastructure? I’m sure that had nothing to do with MS looking at quality and control.

[Markusb33]

Oh yeah I agree Sony are hurting right now. They are not in a great position at all.
It's a feature nothing more just like BC it should not be a system seller kind of decision

[TKCMuzzer]

Epic can't do what they want because they are using the PlayStation platform to make money, that means PlayStation's owners have a say in how that platform can be used. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Would you allow something you own to make someone else a shit load of money and you not have a say?

[masterfox]

oh my god I feel so embarrassed I can't play against kiddie gamers in the switch or against xboners. oh my god the embarrassment........-_-...... . seriously please stop this begging nobody is freaking asking for this only some ridiculous gaming journalist that only wants to downplay Sony and want to benefit the competition by giving them a chance to sell more hardware and that's isn't competition at all.

[maybelovehate]

You are so wrong. Everyone who owns both PS4 and Switch which is a lot of gamers are mad.

[GTgamer]

That's a reach 😂😂😂

[Hanilugtehul]

All the people i play with dont give a duck about cross-play. So is not EVERYONE who owns a ps4 that are mad about lack off crossplay. peace:)

[Cmv38]

I'm not ma's in the slightest

[trooper_]

What, do you have statistics to prove that?

...

-cricket chirp-

[Man_Among_Mice]

I'm not mad at all. I actually could give a rat's ass about this feature and don't really understand this recent obsession with Sony allowing other platforms to play with their customers. If you want to play with Playstation owners then buy a PS4. It's their right to protect that line of thinking because they make a profit off of it not you. There can't be that many people mad about it when they're still the number one selling console in the world.

[Aceman18]

I own both the Pro, and Switch yet I didn't ask for crossplay gaming as I don't give two sh*ts about it.

I wish ppl stop generalizing for those who don't care.

Also on both these companies community blog or whatever is this feature even in the top 10 of requested features on them? Or is this just some vocal minority, and sh**ty gaming way of jumping on Sony?

[OffRoadKing]

" Everyone who owns"

You can't be serious making an outlandish claim like that, who asked you to speak for everyone?

[Neonridr]

you don't own both platforms, so it's a non issue to you. I own a Switch and a PS4, so this affects me greatly. I cannot enjoy this game across both consoles now because Sony decided to do something so foolish. But hey, masterfox is ok with it guys, so it must be all good.

[Kribwalker]

exactly. There’s a lot of angry gamers out there, this small corner of the internet is one of the only places that this is being defended

[masterfox]

"I own a Switch and a PS4, so this affects me greatly." ... seriously no effing joking that sounds so childish, imagine if Sony tries to please every gamer of each game they would never finish pleasing everyone, what's next issue?, I can't paired my mobile phone to my PS4 ?, "Damn you Sony for being so closed we need some gaming articles about this!!!pronto!!" , seriously just stop it!, if you bought a Switch deal with the Switch features and what Nintendo is offering you and don't come asking for other stuff like if it was you are entitled to have it and make a fuzz of it, also Sony or Nintendo when you buy their hardware in the box doesn't even mention this crossplataform gaming nonsense, this thing was brought by MS cause they are desperate in saving its dying gaming hardware, so what's happening my child, is the Switch dying too already ?.

[Neonridr]

@masterfox - clearly you don't understand the issue. This isn't about crossplay. This is about Sony taking my Epic account, something that doesn't belong to them, and restricting me from using it on an Xbox or Switch. That is not their right to take my account and tell me where I can use it.

[sizeofyou]

No...this is Sony protecting their infrastructure that you play on under an agreement of PSN. Nothing to do with your Epic account.
It's a shame, I don't understand it personally, but I'm not losing sleep...

[maybelovehate]

Exactly, for those of us who do own both PS4 and Switch. this is a big deal

[LOCO209]

I own a switch and PS4 as well but all I did was make an account for each platform..
It is not like the game is unplayable if you can't jump from one platform to another.

[Mr Marvel]

@Neonridr... Boo hoo!

[Zeke68]

@maybelovehate @Neonridr
I had to buy Diablo 3 on both PC and PS4 but I know they are two separate platforms so I don't complain. Seems you are in the same situation?

[MrBeatdown]

"clearly you don't understand the issue. This isn't about crossplay. This is about Sony taking my Epic account, something that doesn't belong to them, and restricting me from using it on an Xbox or Switch. That is not their right to take my account and tell me where I can use it."

Such a load of crap. Sony didn't take anything of yours. Epic agreed to Sony's terms to release the game on PS4. Epic consented to everything Sony required. It's Epic's accounts in Epic's game. The fact that you're trying to pass this off as something that was outside of Sony's right is absurd. Nobody put a gun to Epic's head.

[Neonridr]

@MrBeatdown - yet look at the image that comes up when you try to log in with your Epic Account on Switch if it has been linked to the PS4. Epic is flat out blaming Sony in the picture.

You guys will defend anything Sony does, and it's ridiculous.

If you had bought or unlocked anything on your primary account that would be useless on the Switch version as you would have to make a new account. How is that ok?

[MrBeatdown]

That error message says nothing that disputes my point.

You can't use your account on Switch if you used it on PS4. It's Epic's game. Epic's accounts. They programmed that limitation in because they agreed to Sony's terms in order to release the game on PS4.

Sony had requirements.

Epic agreed to them.

Epic enforces them.

Sony isn't holding your Fortnite account hostage like you make it sound. Epic owns your account. Epic enforces the restrictions on your account.

[Neonridr]

@MrBeatdown - look at the error message that pops up. That screams "it's Sony's fault". Otherwise Epic would be in a lot of trouble for that image.

[MrBeatdown]

At this point, you either can't comprehend my point, or just choose to ignore it.

Every publisher has their own account service that you can tie to Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft accounts. Rockstar. EA. Ubisoft. There is nothing preventing Epic from allowing you to use their account on all platforms. The difference here is that Epic never told you that you can't carry anything over. That's something Sony required, and something Epic agreed to and designed their account system with that in mind.

Epic vaguely blaming Sony doesn't mean it wasn't Epic's fault for not being upfront about the way they were handling platform requirements. If you're trying to play an Epic game on Switch, you're an Epic customer, not a Sony customer.

[Neonridr]

@MrBeatdown - yet ironically XBL doesn't have any requirements of the sort. I can freely use my Epic account with my PC, Xbox One (if I owned one) and Switch. It's only Sony that is taking my account and locking it out from other platforms. I am obviously trying to beat a dead horse. It's apparent that this is ok to the majority of people here because they are PS4 users. I get it, you want to defend your choice in console. But this practice is a slippery slope and it shouldn't be allowed. Again, if MS or Nintendo had chose to lock out accounts the uproar here over them would have been insane. But because it's Sony doing it, I guess it's ok.

To each their own I guess, but I can't accept this practice.

[MrBeatdown]

You keep missing the point.

Sony isn't telling you to make a new account to play Fortnite on Switch. That was Epic's design decision. It's Epic's fault.

Numerous publishers allow you to use the same account across all platforms. Yes, there are limitations. Stats and unlocks don't carry over. But you could transfer your GTA Online character from 360 to PS4 and PS3 to Xbox One. Rockstar didn't tell you to make a second Social Club account.

You choose to specifically blame Sony. You can dislike Sony's no crossplay policy all you want. But disliking that, and choosing to take that as the sole reason Switch owners are dealing with this is ignoring the fact that Epic agreed to Sony's no crossplatform policy, designed a poor system to accommodate it, and in the process, failed to properly accommodate all of it's players as best they could within the limitations allowed by platform holders.

You seem to want to ignore that Epic had any responsibility to their paying customers, and instead place the blame entirely on Sony for sticking with a long-standing policy every other developer accommodates just fine.

PS4 can cross play with PC in Rocket League. I've never heard of a Switch lockout if you play on PS4 first. Psyonix made it work. There's no reason Epic couldn't do better. But do continue to blame this entirely on big bad Sony.

[prankster101]

"I own a Switch and a PS4, so this affects me greatly."

The sense of entitlement is strong with this one.

[Skankinruby]

Lol exactly, nobody cares. As sony continues to pull away from its competitors loyalists and journalists both are grasping at straws to compose a jab at them, no matter how pathetic they sound.

[Kribwalker]

go on resetera or twitter. This small corner of the world doesn’t care, but it’s a big deal elsewhere
https://www.resetera.com/th...

the threads already 34 pages long and it started less then 24hrs ago

[Goldby]

@krib
And there's also a band wagon of hatred in Twitter for last of us because Ellie is gay.

Maybe some of those people are just jumping on the bad wagon.

I have friends who have fortnite on their switch and ps4. And they don't have an issue, if anything it'd getting them to play more on switch just to get their items back.

[Kribwalker]

@goldby

so they don’t have a problem if they bought items on their PS4 and have to buy it again if they want it on the switch or anywhere else?

seems silly to me

[Goldby]

@Krib, you can earn any item in game if you are a) good enough and b)take the time

[Asuka]

Ignorant...

[Name Last Name]

I can't believe the amount of people defending Sony in this.

[madforaday]

I think it is more about that they understand why Sony is doing it just like when MS did the same thing last generation.

Personally, I rather have it because I am a consumer and being to play anyone regardless of platform is awesome. Just like everyone said at least once in these comments, this is a business first which sucks for consumers like you and I.

I just think people are taking this WAY out of proportion. No one bats an eye when MS did the same exact thing last generation. Sony does it and now they are under the microscope even though it is common sense on why they don't. Like I said, as a consumer I am for cross platform.

[trooper_]

I can't believe the fake outrage over crossplay now when no one batted an eyelash when Microsoft refused to do it with Sony.

You want to play with PS4 gamers?

BUY A PS4!

[starchild]

Crossplay was extremely uncommon last generation, so it wasn't on as many people's minds. Now crossplay is becoming pretty common and more and more developers are wanting it for their games. It's completely understandable why it's a much hotter topic now.

Still, when the conversations came up about it last generation I was totally in favor of it and said that all platform holders should do the right thing and allow gamers to play together across different devices. I mean, how could any gamer not be in favor of it?

[Vizigoth04]

Seems like everyone wants a piece of the Sony pool.

[Mr Marvel]

Agree 100%.
I own a PS4 and Switch, but I have no interest in cross-play whatsoever.
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of PS4 gamers don't give a crap about cross-play. It's just the negative vocal minority trying to make something out of nothing.

[RumHam]

I don’t care about cross play either but I can’t play with my Epic account with switch players either. If Sony doesn’t want me to play with PS4 players that is fine, but why keep us from playing with players from the same platform. I have all three consoles and prefer my PS4 but I don’t get how strongly some are willing to defend Sony. Who cares if MS did this before, the point is Sony is doing it now and it’s wrong.

[TallonIV]

"kiddie gamers"

Lol that's funny coming from you lmao!!

[2pacalypsenow]

Nah, what's embarrassing is the amount of articles they've done for this.

[Neonridr]

the more ink that is written, the more flak a company will face. Denying cross-play is one thing, hijacking an account that doesn't belong to them in the first place is something completely different.

[2pacalypsenow]

Because the hundreds of articles complaining about BC have made the PS4 BC...

Sony might unlock the account, but don't expect cross play.

[Neonridr]

@2pacalypsenow - that's all I care about. They shouldn't be able to lock out my account that isn't theirs to begin with. It's not a Sony account, it's an Epic account.

[TKCMuzzer]

Hold on, we have not heard from Epic or Sony but you ultimately assume it's all Sony's doing, interesting. Many other companies allow more than one platform on an email address so Sony hasn't stopped them.

I imagine there is a reason we have not heard from Epic..

Assumption.......

[Neonridr]

@TKCMuzzer - go look at the error screen that pops up on the Switch when you try to use the account. Epic is flat out blaming Sony in the picture. If that isn't true, then they would be in huge trouble for slander against Sony. So my guess is it's true.

@Prettygoodgamer - this isn't a purchased game. It's a F2P game. The point is, I play the game on PC. If I had linked that PC account to my PSN that account would be locked to that console only. I could then no longer use that account with any other console other than the PS4. How you can compare that to me going out and buying a physical game for one system and then expecting to be able to use it on another is flat out dumb.

[Silly gameAr]

And, most people continue not to care.

[Neonridr]

yeah PS4 only gamers don't care. I own a Switch too though.

[Goldby]

And some of them fi d it as a blessing, friends included as now they get to unlock more things sooner.

A friend is actually playing more in the switch to catch up to his ps4 account

[twiggytree12]

I own PS4, XB1S and NS. Guess what? I don't give a shit, so stfu and quit acting like you speak for everyone.

[StormLegend]

And none of you can force Sony to do it either. Even if they removed Fortnight from the system Sony wouldn’t care. The PS4 didn’t get popular because of that game. Epic games need them more than Sony does. Yeah it may suck that you can’t transfer it but do you really need it? The switch version is terrible and I’m just glad you can do it with the PC version

[maybelovehate]

Fortnite is the most played game on PS4. They care.

[Neonridr]

how is the switch version terrible? You haven't even played it dude. Stop making shit up to defend a ridiculous decision by Sony.

[jukins]

its horrible. . . its laggy its blurry has a ton of hitches. plays tons better on iphone >.>. as he said as long as it doesnt mess with me playing on pc oh well. lol manbabies

[Blu3_Berry]

Thing is, Sony isn't missing much on no crossplay. Yes I agree that it would be better for them to support crossplay, but I can understand from a business/corporation standppoint that they may be worried about security issues with their data.

[Razzer]

Continues to be irrelevant you mean

[Flexiblefish74]

The way I look at is simple, I own both but some friends don't have same system as me... So it would be nice I can with my Xbox friends people, why fanboys get in this type of shit

[InKnight7s]

I don't recall any article or propoganda against MS and all these crying people about how FFXIV is refused by MS?!

[trooper_]

That fake outrage at play!

[ocelot07]

I don't care for crossplay but I wish they would just enable it and be done with it. I really don't understand what they are worried about. It's not like people are just going to go o wait I can now play my PS4 friends while I am on Switch or Xbox. No need to get a PS4.

Sony's killer exclusives are why people buy the PS4 as well as multiplatform games. Enabling crossplay shouldn't harm there sales at all. So that sjouldn't be a worry for them.

[SkippyPaccino]

The moment Sony allows cross play across the board, you'll see a gorilla type advertising campaign from Microsoft in which the world has never seen before. They'll pay every media outlet and everyone who has a gaming voice to say "now you can play cross platform with ps4, so you can buy a X and have the best graphics and the biggest community... Why buy the ps4 version when the X looks better and you can play with Sony people anyway... Why does Sony even exist anymore when they allowed cross play, the X is all we need etc "

Next gen might be different, but for now we can't blame the market leader (market Destroyer) for not wanting share when they've worked their azz off to get here in the first place.

[ocelot07]

They can just do it on a game by game basis. Like Fortnite just allow cross play. But for big hitters like Battlefield and COD keep the servers on lock down proven over the a number of years COD and Battlefield sell the best on PlayStation.

[Weren412]

The cross play isnt the real issue here. The issue is Sony locking down and hijacking an Epic account even if youve played 1 single match. I created my fortnite account on PC in season 1 and recently played 1 match on a ps4 and i am now forever console locked? bullocks! This is with no warning what so ever during sign in on the Ps4.

[Atticus_finch]

But PS4 has the most cross-play games thou. Why do articles forget that? Let me know when xbox and ninty catch up.

[butchertroll]

And also Fortnite is completely free on PS4, like F2P should be, unlike on Xbone where you need a Gold sub. to play a F2P. Paying a sub. to play a F2P on Xbone isn't F2P in the end

[gleepot]

Do they? From what I understand no PS4 games are cross play with other consoles.

[Atticus_finch]

PS4 crossplays with pc, not even xbox does that.

[dreue]

If i want cross pkay i have my pc.... With so amaizing games coming to ps4, i dont even think about online gaming....

[Asuka]

YIKES

[Rude-ro]

The ps4 has 40-ish titles that offer crossplay with other competitors ie steam and Mac...
Microsoft offers about 17 with outside competitors... ie steam, Mac switch
Keep at it gaming press!!!
Sony is evil to their fans.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

[PoopsMcGee]

I don't want or need cross play. Cross play with PC sucks in Rocket League and I wish there was a way to exclude PC players from matches. I like my multiplayer games to play the same for those playing a match together. PS4 has a high user base so I never have a problem finding matches...

I admit, It does suck for those that want to use their Fortnite profile on different systems but that doesn't affect me so I'm a big vote against crossplay.

[txboy05]

Sony gamers dont care for cross platform ! We really dont care for it AT ALL

[goldwyncq]

Speak for yourself.

It's not just about cross-platform multiplayer, any account created on a PS4 cannot be used on a Switch. That means anything purchased on a PS4 account would have to be purchased again if you were to make a new Switch account. That's only the case with the PS4 btw.

[goldwyncq]

"That's the exact same thing"

It really isn't, not when other the other console and the PC are allowing progress to be carried over. But you guys keep defending this shit and see where it'll get you in the future.

[King_Lothric]

The majority of Sony gamers, we don't care.

[shinoff2183]

They tried last gen and ms said no. Screw ms.

[Vizigoth04]

Actually it doesn't hurt Sony and PlayStation at all.

[StormSailor]

Who give a damn for Cross-play? The feeling of these babies is very fragile we need to let play with his friend who has the console which nobody plays (insert multiplayer game name) but needs PS4 players to fill a match

Oh kids also need a new account to play in the little Switch at school, everyone needs to know thats the end of the world

[Vizigoth04]

Well that's a surprise. Fornite comes out yesterday for the Switch and there's nobody to okay with. Probably because Mario Odyssey, Mario Cart 8, Zelda, Splatoon and Kirby are all charting in the top 10 still.

[Segata]

Yup, but when you're the leader you can afford to be arrogant until next gen starts. Nintendo got arrogant after Wii and Sony got arrogant after PS2 and now Sony will be back up to the plate with PS5.

[Goldby]

Hmm no mention of xbox?

[Atticus_finch]

@10th when you're leading it doesn't matter what the competition do, you don't have to counter. The only one on the counter is xbox, which is the reason why y'all have Bc, thanks Sony.

I have a 4k tv, a pro, and I watch 4k all the time but I strangely have never even considered buying a 4k Blu-ray, Maybe it isn't necessary after all.

PS4 has more user and more crossplay games than any other console, but please continue telling us how we are missing out, please go on.

I guess you missed the psvr games on stage, you shouldn't keep that blindflod on too long. BTW PSVR it's getting more exclusives than Xbox, shame! Or in your case, yay!

EA access! Oh no! I love EA so much and I can't wait to give them my money on monthly basis. YEAH RIGHT!

You damn right they will continue to hold the lead, they make the best games and consoles.

Now please tell me how excited you are about the rest of 2018 for Xbox, I hear you guys are getting one more game this year and maybe some games next year, either way save your pennies because MS will want you to upgrade consoles again very soon. Yay! go Xbox.

[Segata]

Xbox was arrogant for being in 3rd place. SEGA was arrogant for being second place after Genesis. Those 2 were just weird where the examples are given were only about devs who hit first place in sales.

[The 10th Rider]

@Atticus_finch,

I don't own an Xbox . . .

Also, the idea that when you're in the lead you don't have to stay competitive is exactly what Segata and I were talking about. Ironic that your first sentence highlights exactly the type of attitude that Sony should be avoiding.
I never said a 4K Bluray player was necessary. However when Sony's competitor can squeeze one in to their base console, it's sad that Sony can't even put one in their premium console and people will make up excuses for it.

For crossplay it's not about the number of games that have crossplay. There are developers that want, and are ready, to implement crossplay, and Sony is telling them no. Also, as I said there's also the whole Epic Games fiasco, where your account gets locked to PS4 if you use it on PS4.

Sure, they showed some PSVR games, but where are the games from Sony? They announced just one Sony published PSVR game . . . and that was in the post conference. They did bring some others to E3 to demo off outside of their conference, but it's a year and a half in and Sony has yet to show or announce any AAA VR experiences.

I hate EA as much as anyone, but EA Access is a fairly good deal for anyone that does like their games. Regardless of how you or I feel about EA, Sony decided that players shouldn't even have the ability considering it.

If Sony keeps making decisions like the ones above, they're going to lose a portion of the market share next generation.

[The 10th Rider]

I definitely agree they're down that road. They could have tried to counter the Xbox's backwards compatibility by at least aiming for PS2/PS1 backwards compatibility. Instead they're still making remakes. Microsoft put a 4K Blu-ray drive in even the base Xbox One revision . . . Sony didn't even put one in the Pro. Not only are they not allowing crossplay, your account gets locked from other platforms if you've even logged in on PS4. Despite releasing two years ago, PSVR barely got any attention from Sony at E3 this year, echoing their treatment of the Vita. They also blocked PS4 users from even having the option EA Access and there was the whole fiasco with mods for Bethesda games.

I'm sure they will keep the lead from a sales perspective again next gen, just like last gen, but they're making some poor decisions and it could very well come back to bite them.

[doggo84]

"Tomb Raider Dev Calls Last Of Us Part II Gameplay Fake, Apologizes"

"Sony's Underwhelming conference"

"Sony's Lack Of PS4 Cross-Play Support Continues To Be An Embarrassment"

Hehehehe, so cute

[Platformgamer]

only sony haters cares about it

[Segata]

I love my PS4. My 4th most loved console ever. But locking my Epic account on their system is complete BS.

[Bladesfist]

@Prettygoodgamer. Fortnite. That's why people are upset that you can't do the same if you have ever played the game on a PS4.

[obidanshinobi]

Who cares? there's enough PS4 players that we don't need cross play.
This is just nit picking.

[Doge]

Keep crossplay. Remove that idiotic account limitation bullcrap.

[OnDec76]

I smell a class action lawsuit brewwing

[OffRoadKing]

It would get dismissed in a heart beat.

[Italiano1234567]

Sony said its on epics end and epic has yet to respond

[AnubisG]

I don't get it why is this such a big issue now. Last gen when sony wanted to do it, MS didn't and for some reason everyone was ok with that. Now that the tables turned and MS comes bagging and Sony is turning them down rightfully so, everyone loses their minds.

I think each system has ot's own ecosystem that works best if it's contained in that platform. For example, if I play online and someone want's to be buddies but they are on Xbox and I'm on PS4, how would that work? A completely new system woukd need to be created to accomodate these things.

Cross-platform play is not as simple as many think it is.

It would be good for gamers but as I said, a brand new system would need to be created just for this.

[starchild]

Crossplay was extremely uncommon last generation, so it wasn't on as many people's minds. Now crossplay is becoming more common and more and more developers are wanting it for their games. It's completely understandable why it's a much hotter topic now.

Still, when the conversations came up about it last generation I was totally in favor of it and said that all platform holders should do the right thing and allow gamers to play together across different devices. I mean, how could any gamer not be in favor of it?

[XtaZ]

Good luck finding proof that Sony wanted to do it, because they never did. It's just a lie that has been brought up so many times that people have started to believe it at this point.

[gangsta_red]

Some folks are really trying to push that lie as far as possible.

[Italiano1234567]

Again microsoft declined sony last gen when sony wanted to do crossplay. We must have short memories

[XtaZ]

Can't remember things that never happened you know. Sony never wanted to do cross-play with Microsoft so your statement is just a lie.

[goldwyncq]

They didn't go so far as to hold accounts hostages to Xbox when other consoles allowed progress to be carried over.

This isn't just about crossplay multiplayer.

[Italiano1234567]

Whats also an embarrassment is how microsoft is getting there ass handed to them

[Chaosdreams]

It's not an embarrassment. I get why they don't allow it. It's just, unfortunate for us as gamers is all.

[TheVetOfGaming]

Embarrassment to who? We have enough people to play against online, plus, I don't really give a fuck about it either. I am only talking for myself.

[aConIsDemocracy]

if anyone thinks ms are in it for the gamers they are deluded. Stick to your guns Sony. You don't need anyone. You've proved it this gen. ms and xbox fans are clasping for any shit stick to grab onto.

[jznrpg]

It’s funny mainly people who don’t have a PS4 get upset. Sure you can say you own one but I am sure Sony knows the real numbers. Xbox has to have crossplay now that they have been shown that they aren’t high and mighty as they thought they were with Xbox 360. They had their chance last gen but thought they were the shit

[The 10th Rider]

You know even if someone doesn't own a PS4 they could have a friend that does that they would like to play with online?

[Nodoze]

Fortnite is a passing fad (and it SUCKS). So waaaa waaaaa. Who gives a crap. Go play this utter garbage on another console.

[Mr Marvel]

Zero sh!ts given.
Personally I don't want cross-play as the Playstation community is big enough to stand on it's own.

[aConIsDemocracy]

Cause what you see, you might not get
And we can bet, so don't you get souped yet
Scheming on a thing, that's a mirage
I'm trying to tell you now, it's sabotage

[bluefox755]

Continues to be a non-issue to everyone except ardent loyalists. It clearly hasn't affected their sales.

[RosweeSon]

Embarrassing?! it’s hardly getting caught with your pants down.

[Dragonscale]

Seems that most people who should be bothered by this, PS4 owners, don't really care. It was a different story when ms refused last gen though. Obviously Sony would rather concentrate on more important things like great new experiences, cross play and bc aren't that essential tbh.

[Cohagen420]

Yea, they're the ones counting 2 million boogers picked in their video games as a victory..

[GameGod26]

Fake outrage

[Edito]

Who is embarrassed? Me the 80million ps players are not, and I wish Sony blocks for good.

[MAULxx]

This dead horse still getting beat?

[OffRoadKing]

They have little else to harp about so yeah expect to hear the fake outrage for some time.

[MetroidFREAK21]

I understand their reasons, but I think it would be best for ALL gamers to play together regardless of platform. The fact I can boot up Fortnite on my Switch, plug in a headphone port and talk to my friends on Xbox is an awesome feeling.

[aaronaton]

Grown men playing fortnite is more embarrassing in my opinion.
Cross platform is not a viable business model, unless Sony felt like being nice to the competition.

[TheRaidenPT]

This is one of the few key things that they need to improve upon in my view.

Other than that I think they are doing solid work thus far

[Poek]

This topic is brought up nearly every month for the past couple of years ad nauseam. Let it go, play something else.

[Phoenix76]

Yawn, this again.

[Pancit_Canton]

Don't blame the company for being paranoid about their security. They just have one of the biggest hack back in 2011, and people seems to forget about it. I think Sony are just being cautious, who to let in and who to let out. It cost the company billions of dollars for compensations and repairs. I don't think they want to let it happened ever again. So, I fully understand the need for control on their network.

[OpenGL]

I wonder how many complaints are actually coming from PS4 owners. I've seen Xbox players complain about this but it seems like fake outrage. I suspect most of them were never going to play the PS4 version anyway. I will admit though that maybe I can't relate because I've never played Fortnite.

[Doge]

Greg Miller, Jim Sterling and plenty of people who are either big Sony fans or fans of gaming in general with a large following are speaking out about it. People think it's just another "Sony doesn't do crossplay" thing when it's a "People who played Fortnite on the PS4 are upset that they can't play Fortnite on the Switch" issue.

Restrictions like this should not have existed to begin with, let alone not even warn people about it.

[SpineSaw]

Ummm big correction ......no one is stopping any PS4 gamer from playing Fortnite on the Switch or any other console..........your welcome.

[Doge]

Not a correction, but a deflection. Nice try though!

[superchiller]

A better title for this article: "Culturedvultures poorly written trolling articles continue to be an embarrassment ". Culturedvultures is the new Trollingbolt, don't give them the clicks.

[marloc_x]

..for discussing anti-consumer practices? It is shameful.

[goldwyncq]

Sony fanatics defending Sony's anti-consumer policies again, what a surprise!

Not allowing cross-play is one thing. Holding accounts hostages to one console is scummy as hell.

[goldwyncq]

Arrogant Sony is back it seems. Oh how the tables have turned! Hope it doesn't bite them in the ass come next gen.

[Mr_Luke]

Articles like this continue to be an embarassment.
Happy owner of a PS4 without cross play, since i don't care at all.
Weirdly the majority of people sad about this are those without a PS4.. mh.. interesting.

EDIT: ohh another embarassing thing! Sony is giving CoD: Black Ops 3 for free to PS+ members, as post E3 2018 gift.
https://blog.it.playstation...

Damn, i would feel so embarassed if i were Sony... /s

[ack591]

Anyone tired of this kind of articles?

[Hardiman]

Yet they are selling more consoles than the competition by 40 million and have the most games available! So it looks like this issue is more with the ones who don't have a PS4 or those who aren't selling 78 million consoles!

While we're at it should Sony's exclusives show up on Xbox and Switch? I imagine that'd be real beneficial to gamers, good grief!

[TallonIV]

But I thought Sony were #4theplayers ?

[King_Lothric]

I find more embarrassing the crying drama and constant begging of OTHER platforms fans asking for this when the Playstation community, the majority, does not want this.

Also, is not beneficial as a business decision. It would only benefit Xbox. If people respected Xbox decision last Gen they should respect Sony's and its community decision now.

This is so ridiculous that I think some people are just using this to attack Sony while they themselves don't care about cross play.

[rob-GP]

There is no ‘lack of crossplay’ - there are loads more crossplay titles on PS4 to PC and PSVita/PS3 to PS4 than the Xbox to anything else.

The only thing that’s limited is cross between consoles - something MS were 100% against last gen yet nobody jumped on them over that. Sony does loads of PC and PS4 crossplay titles, so I don’t see an issue here.

[CR7JUVE1897]

I'm curious as to why Epic seems to be getting a free pass on all of this.

It is Epic's game. And in saying that, they would obviously know that Sony isn't having it when it comes to cross play for consoles. And they still went through with it anyway.

It is up to Epic to fix the problem on their own game. Not Sony.

[ILostMyMind]

Not for me. Next!

[Abnor_Mal]

It's an embarrassment to whom? Sony? Not even. All these sites thinking they're going to or are putting Sony under pressure. The ones screaming for cross platform play are the ones under pressure and are an embarrassment to themselves and their platform.
Just wait for next gen, that when it will most likely happen, but not now, not when Sony is leading the pack. Maybe when the playing field is even again.

[zodiac909]

Why do they need cross platform support in the first place?

[outsider1624]

Keep begging boys, keep begging..one day Sony will listen.

[Tres21]

This is just dumb if it wasnt right when ms did it still isnt right if sony does it no matter whose in the lead....if its about the gamers and they wanted it at 1st agaun they changed their minds? So basically when ms did it, it didn't matter cuz it was always a non issue cuz gamers didnt really want it they just like to complain. And its business 1st be4 consumers thats always been true but its not about helping another company its about getting gamers 2gether. With the lead sony has already with the exclusives they already put out there is no way cross play is going to magically hurt them to put them in 2nd place. This is a benefit 4 gamers whether its a feature u use or not. Not all features is everyone going to use but a convenient one as this to carry over yo items and info does this really boil down to the company over consumer. Can someone please tell me what they will lose?

[princejb134]

do i want to play with xbox or pc players? not really.
why? because i have 3 million other players i can play with

[Inzo]

Thats funny, I dont feel embarrassed at all.

[SpineSaw]

Why would Sony need to make it clear that you cant move your account from console to another console. Does any console make make this clear? What about Epic games why have they not made this clear. Ohhhh wait they want you to spend more money, money you may have already spent and that's ok with them as long as they can put they blame on someone else and in this case it's Sony's fault.

[TheOttomatic91]

U WOT M8

[yoshatabi]

Am I the only one who doesn't care about cross-play?

[MAULxx]

You & a whole legion of others as well as those who primarily play SP games.

[j15reed]

That's a small minority

[uGLYmE]

Why would a company with the largest install base give a potential customer a reason to buy a competing console? Just out of the goodness of their hearts?

People need to get over this, it's getting embarrassing.

[nRicosS]

Non ps4 owner begging for crossplay is embarrassment

[BRAN117DON]

i say remove fortnite from the ps4 that will teach sony a lesson :P

[cell989]

As a huge hardcore Sony fan, I really feel like thsinsi starting to become a real problem.

[Artemidorus]

Rockstar managed to do it, so I can't see why you can't take your progress to another system.

[DVAcme]

You know who's not complaining about PS4 lacking crossplay? PS4 OWNERS.

[Elda]

Absolutely! I could care less especially about playing Fortnite.

[goldwyncq]

You know who's complaining about the PS4 essentially locking all accounts and progress along with it? PS4 AND Switch OWNERS.

[twiggytree12]

I own PS4, NS and I don't give a shit, you're argument just fell flat on its face.

[gigoran]

Listen, children

Fortnite is not the game of all games. It’s not game that is going to make Sony or Xbox make competitive play between them possible. Oh why Xbox? Because all they are doing at the moment is talking hot air. They can say everything you wanna hear because they know their competition won’t agree to it, and you all just lap it up. Slurp slurp

[salmonade]

Manufactured outrage from the media. Just shut up already. Sony are killing it.

[goldwyncq]

Not manufactured at all. Go visit Reddit and you'd see a lot of outrage from genuine fans.

[salmonade]

Reddit? LOL MAjority of fans are all on reddit yeah? It's bullcrap. It will affect 0.1% of people who own a PS4 and that want to game on switch using their account from PS4..... its just a tiny vocal minority.

[Petebloodyonion]

I doubt that Crossplay will hurt Sony in regard to the PS4.
but it might hurt them really bad when Sony release PS5 and they will try to make you purchase a new console.

[Broomfondle]

No it doesn't. We don't want it. Leave us alone.

[Wallow]

I play on ps3/ps4 only, and I want crossplay. Idk why it's such a bad thing for you guys. Sony is literally the only company not doing it, and its stupid. People I know shouldn't have to buy a ps4 just so we can play games like minecraft and fortnite together.

[deno]

I could care less. I have so many single player and online games to look forward too on my ps4 pro.

[madpuppy]

"Sony's Lack Of PS4 Cross-Play Support Continues To Be An Embarrassment"

You know...Sony just might not care all that much.....

[blacktiger]

it's only embarrasing if they care, like they care about PSN online and it sucks before and that was embarrasing. However Crossplay SONY really really doesn't give a fk!

[Flewid638]

If playing the most amazing games I've ever experienced means not playing Fortnite with other people...I'm ok with that. lmao.

No one's going to dump their PS4 and it's library over Fortnite.
#ItsNotThatSerious

[Elda]

Okay!!

[Elda]

Sony could care less.Next.

[ceballos77mx]

I say open the floodgates, let crossplay on every game, maybe itll end this petty console war.

[SLiSH83]

So should a dell computer and a Lenovo not be able to have people play the same game.
Sorry you can only play games with only other Lenovo users.
Multi platform games should be cross buy and the 1st party games should be the driving force for buying whatever system.
Why shouldn’t all COD players be able to play the game w each other regardless of console you’re on.
Same with madden or rocket league or overwatch etc

[Flewid638]

Closed system. Better quality.

[thebudgetgamer]

As a person that doesn't play online I can't understand why people even care about this. As if there aren't enough people to play against already

[Harkins1721]

They cross play with PC pretty well

[j15reed]

Everybody can cross-play with PC without issue, but we all know console and PC don't mix well on most games.

[Tobse]

How the freak are people defendig this anti consumer move?

[goldwyncq]

They simply don't understand the gravity of the situation. It's not just about crossplay multiplayer. If an account is linked to PSN at any time, then that account is tainted and locked to that console, even if that account was created on a PC.

[twiggytree12]

"If an account is linked to PSN at any time, then that account is tainted and locked to that console, even if that account was created on a PC."

That is 100% false, I use my bethesda.net account on both PS4 and XB1 without issue. You can also use bungie.net accounts on PS4\XB1. This current issue is between Epic and Sony.

[CyberRekkr]

3rd party games play better on X1X... Lol Fuck Sony!

[OffRoadKing]

We keep hearing this garbage because its one of the last few things haters can attack Sony for. You'd all be beside yourselves if they actually did it, you'd have to find something new to bitch about.

[bigmalky]

Yaaaaawn.

[goldwyncq]

Listen up kids,

This isn't about your childish console war anymore, this is about preventing a company from implementing anti-consumer practices and doing whatever they damn well please and screwing a lot of people in the process. You spoke up against Microsoft and DRM at the beginning of the generation, but it seems like you've succumbed to blind loyalty this time, tolerating Sony for what is very clearly a terrible move affecting multitudes of PS4 and Switch owners. If you really love Playstation then you'd do well to speak up against this shit, or Sony will revert to their arrogant selves back at the beginning of the PS3 era, and we don't want that to happen do we?

[SirCupcakes91]

I really don't think Sony really cares. And I don't really think it's an Embarrassment...

[EpicFruityPie]

I'm surprised so many people complain about this ill play a game on my ps4 why would I want the same game on another console doesn't make sense to me I'll keep the switch for other games not on ps4

[Aenea]

That you can't share your progress among consoles has nothing whatsoever to do with cross-play support.
Yes it's weird that this is happening and am seriously wondering if this is Sony or Epic trying to force Sony to allow cross-play as well by hijacking your progress...

[chris235]

it‘s only embarrassing for those who don‘t get pushed away by boring online interaction. all the others who couldn‘t care less about online based 0815 shooters are just fine the way it is.

[PrinceVegeta]

Sony being anti consumerist is nothing new. They are just going back to their roots.

[Father__Merrin]

Why would you want to swap from PS4 Fortnite to switch version

[Tsar4ever01]

What this prick on the opinion piece article is saying is Sony are being assholes because they won't bend to his needs to cross-play Fortnight on Ps4 to his Nintendo Switch version of FN and he can't transfer his progress across because PSN will lock out both Xbox and Nintendo FN accounts. So now your threatening to leave PS4 and go to Xbox.

LOL, Over a single game? Really?

Know what, ASSHOLE? Do "PlayStation Nation" a favor and just show yourself out! Let the door smack you 30 yards. Bet you Nobody would even notice much less care you even left. I assure you, you won't be Missed. What a whiny Bitch!!

[Profchaos]

I really don't see the problem same as I don't see a problem when xbox didn't want to share last gen cause they were on top.

Sure it would be nice but i really can't say I blame Sony for fortnite and it's back end server issues. I would say if rockstar let you switch when gta went to pc then epic can to

[PressPlayBros]

Xbox did this to Sony last generation and no one cried.

[gazgriff2k12]

HOW! is it embarrassing. what is embarrassing is everyone thinking cross-play is meaningfull in any way

[bellome]

A 80.000.000 userbase is enough for me. No interest in playing against kids on switch.

[j15reed]

So out of he 80 mil there's only adults on PS4?

[bellome]

Cleary not, but i guess the majority of Switch owners are kids/teenagers. I will stick with PS userbase, which is in my opinion big and assorted enough.

[bahabeast]

stick to your guns sony. like i said microsoft will do anything to get people playing on the xbo and nintendo want to fit in. sony is daddy rite now

[xX1NORM1Xx]

People are missing the point we dont NEED playstation to support cross console play but we do NEED them to not hold our accounts hostage. Not letting people play fortnite with their pc account because they played on playstation once is a joke even fanboys should be able to see that...

[Atomicjuicer]

Sony and Epic need to fix this.

Crossplay, cross linked accounts, and cross platform save transfers please!

Imagine buying a book from a shop and then being told you have to read it in only that shop using only store-bought bookmarks?

Players need to have more self-respect as consumers. Do it now Sony, before you lose the opportunity.