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EA Is "Not Making A Single Dollar" On Co-op Adventure A Way Out

Josef Fares, the film director turned game director behind Brothers: a Tale of Two Sons and the upcoming A Way Out, is quite the character. His enthusiasm for his game shines through, he doesn’t mince his words, and he’s a lot of fun to talk to.

We recently sat down to play a few snippets of A Way Out ahead of its release next week – read our impressions here – playing alongside and chatting with Fares along the way. Out of this came an interesting tidbit about how the game has been financed under the EA Originals brand:

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LizardRock2234d ago (Edited 2234d ago )

That's how EA works. They shower a dev with support while they're new, once they build up their success, they short-end them, buy them out, and squeeze every last monetary drop from their products before throwing them in the pit.

edit: Look at Respawn Entertainment

Jinger2234d ago

What happened to Respawn? From what I'm seeing is they made a great sequel to a fantastic MP game and now will be working on one of the biggest media franchises ever... Unless I missed something...

Sure EA picked the wrong time to launch Titanfall 2, but its not like they closed their studio or anything.

LizardRock2234d ago

They schedule the games release at the same time as their biggest shooter, and a few months later buy out the company.

They know what they're doing

ocelot072234d ago (Edited 2234d ago )

This is just my theory. Yes Repawn made a good game in Titanfall 2. But it didn't sell that well. Mane reason is because they released it in between Battlefield 1 and Call Of Duty. Now I think EA had a hand in the release date as the publisher I think they made Respawn release it at that time.

Since they didn't make the money they where hoping for with Titanfall 2. They accepted EA's offer to be bought them out. Now EA own Respawn and the Titanfall IP they are free to milk it dry and put as many MT and lootboxes into Titanfall 3.

morganfell2234d ago

Yeah, preach it! Look at how EA ran a massive Ad Campaign to support Titanfall 2 and din't dump any of their other less worthy games on top of it...

...Oh wait...

Jinger2234d ago

Isn't Respawn working on a new Star Wars game? Seems like EA isn't looking to kill them yet...

CorndogBurglar2234d ago

Come on dude. EA released Titanfall 2 like a month or two away from CoD and then put no advertising behind TF. Then, when TF failed financially, they swooped in and bought Respawn.

That was clearly planned.

InKnight7s2234d ago

Wrong launch cost is people ignore.
TF2 pretty empty as remasters games online.

Jinger2234d ago

Y'all can blame EA All you want for TF2's failure, but I also blame gamers themselves. They chose with their wallets and they chose to buy CoD instead of a superior game like TF2

Nodoze2234d ago

I recently started playing TF2 and have to say it is WORLDS better than BF2 in every way. The progression system is not tied to ridiculous loot boxes. There is much fun to be had, and the single player campaign and much better than the pointless offering from DICE. Have to say for any gamer that enjoys a good Sci Fi shooter....buy it NOW. Play it and you will not be disappointed.

Sad that it was not as successful as it should have been.

UCForce2234d ago

Now you defending EA who is abusive company. Can you do the same thing to Destiny 2 and Metal Gear Survive ? This is why game community have been divided. People like me against EA for their greedy but other like you defending them. EA knew exactly what they were doing. Titanfall 2 sales got screwed by EA for releasing it between two biggest shooters. Battlefield 1 and COD IW just killed it. They even shut down Dead Space developers. Have you learn anything about EA from the past ?

_-EDMIX-_2234d ago (Edited 2234d ago )

@UCF- make your point without attacking this individual I would argue the biggest problem this community is there unable to have a simple disagreement without trying to attack the individual simply because they think about something differently.

So stop assuming that what is being stated is in defense of the practice you're assuming. You're basically saying this individual recognizes that this is a bad practice confirms it and is now defending and agreeing with the action which is not actually being stated.

One could argue that Electronic Arts might have been under the belief that they could sell better than Call of Duty if they had more games releasing around it to take away attention.

It's just speculation but to be honest all of this is speculation I don't think any of us have any proof that the release was malicious or done purposely. Please stop attacking other Gamers on here just because they think differently. I mean a lot of you are literally going out of your ways to attack this publisher especially considering their actions that are very normal in the game industry so yes they shut down visceral but it would not be the first time in the history of gaming a studio has been shut down.

So what's next? Are you only going to play games by Publishers that have never shut down any Studios ever? Or does this only apply to electronic Arts to build a narrative of hate?

I mean taking the consideration I like Sony Computer Entertainment but just because they shut down a game Studio doesn't mean I'm going to hate the publisher

it's business, it happens.

Put it this way can anyone even say anything about this publisher is doing anything exclusive that has never been done before in gaming? Can anyone even prove that the actions are malicious?

The reality is the launch of another game is not going to permanently stop someone from ever buying another game as it's still going to exist we don't really know how Titanfall 2 was ever really going to perform for all we know regardless of release it might have always inevitably sold a specific amount of units.

Jinger2233d ago (Edited 2233d ago )

@UCForce

At what point did I defend EA in any of my comments here?

Everything you guys are saying is just conjecture and hate mongering. Respawn made a fantastic game and hardly anyone bought it. Instead they bought CoD: IW which was one of the worst CoD's to date, yet gamers ate that up instead.

Would releasing it during a slower time helped sales? Perhaps, but the fact remains that Titan fall 2 went h2h with CoD and got killed.

But now they are working on one of the biggest media franchises ever, Star Wars. So is it all DOOM and gloom for Respawn? Doesn't look like it. They have the chance to make one of the best recent SW games with the talent they posses. So how about y all stop being such negative nancy' s all the time? Mmmkay?

UCForce2233d ago (Edited 2233d ago )

You should know that EA have a Infamous reputation for screwing game industry and the community. I can tell you that Yongyea know more than you do. I know I have rely on Yongyea with his opinion. I know he isn’t perfect, but the guy know how to understand the game industry and the market. I understand people need money but there have to be balance. It’s about earning consumers trust. Like I said, game Community have been divided because of this. Some people will defend it and others will against it, not just fanboy war. About Star War ? Sure, Respawn making it, but knowing EA they will find a way to screw it just like they did with Battlefront 2. Can you say the same thing about Activision and Bungie for screwing Destiny 2 and Konami for screwing gamers with their disgusting MT and insulting Metal Gear series after Kojima left ?

Elwenil2233d ago

Ah, the EA shill is back to promote their ridiculous policies and failed games once again.

Jinger2233d ago

@UCForce

Ugh, you and this yongea guy... why don't you have one original thought for yourself?

"It’s about earning consumers trust."

Respawn has yet to put out a bad game, so I trust them completely.

"Sure, Respawn making it, but knowing EA they will find a way to screw it just like they did with Battlefront 2."

Again, just spouting more crap because you guys don't like EA. How about we see what Respawn actually has in store before you go damning their game before it's even announced?

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Can you say the same thing about Activision and Bungie for screwing Destiny 2 and Konami for screwing gamers with their disgusting MT and insulting Metal Gear series after Kojima left ?"

Again, you're misunderstanding my love for Respawn as defending EA. I'm not defending EA, I know exactly what kind of publisher they are. But at the same time, they have released quite a few really fun games. So how about we let Respawn prove themselves before we already kill their second game because of "EA". Titan fall 2 didn't have any of the shady EA MT/lootbox crap. Their MT's were very calm compared, they didnt have lootboxes or pay 2 win and they released free content. So take a step back and calm yourself.

@elwinil

Gtfo, I'm not even defending EA. I'm talking about Respawn here.

HeyNowChillax2233d ago

The only thing I dislike about Titanfall 2 is the smallish online playerbase as a result of the bad launch timing. It limits you in no way to finding a match to play, but you've got to be good to great because those who remain are pulling off Matrix fight scenes. Pretty sick really.

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moomoo3192234d ago

I'd say bioware is up next, those papa EA memes were so damn accurate lol

ChrisW2234d ago

If Bioware fails, EA will also fail.

If any of those money grubbing whores at EA are capable of understanding that, they will keep it from happening.

Sono4212233d ago

This makes me very confident in my purchase of this game, glad to help out these devs, they seem passionate. Best of luck to them!

_-EDMIX-_2234d ago

I mean technically speaking they could only buy you if you're available for sale in the first place

HeyNowChillax2233d ago

We'll Electronic Arts Inc.is trading at $127.10 today, so they are doing something right. Respawn seems to be hiring for multiple projects including Titanfall 3 and a Star Wars game, which I hope isn't EA'd to death with transactions that boost performance, cosmetics ok but zero pay-to-win. http://www.respawn.com/care...

We'll have to give Rewspawn a solid 2 years to see where they are headed under EA, but I can see both of those titles keeping Respawn's team well above the cutting line. I for one am excited to see what the people behind Titanfall can come up with in the Star Wars universe.

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AizenSosuke2234d ago

EA you snakes, lying between your teeth, and shedding crocodile tears. Summary what a croc of BS.

AnotherProGamer2234d ago

EA do a lot of bad practices but they are making this game for gamer cred, its a low budget single player game with no microtransactions or lootboxes. they have other games like Battlefield and Madden to fill their pockets so they made this game to say they aren't just rehash after rehash

Hungryalpaca2234d ago

Of course they won’t make a single dollar. They’ll make more than that.

ziggurcat2234d ago

That's a load of crap. There is no way EA is not making any money on any sale of this game.

jznrpg2234d ago

If they don’t make money now they will get it later when they takeover his company

RegorL2234d ago

How can you make money by taking over a game company? By making a game fail.
Why should developers stay?
You would need to invest heavily to be able to release a sequel, that might also fail?

r2oB2234d ago (Edited 2234d ago )

@ regorL

The same way people manipulate stock prices until they drop, buy them up, then when the prices rise again they make a killing.

In their current relationship Respawn owns the IPs and makes a larger portion of money. EA could have devalued them (an otherwise reputable studio) by sabotaging the IPs (making sure the games don't sell as well), then buy the studio. That way they own the IPs and have more control over the studio in every way.

Now I'm not saying that's what happened, but addressing your comment as to it's possibility of happening (and logic behind it).

EDIT: This is a tactic that pimps use. They beat and batter a woman until her esteem is at it's lowest, then they swoop in and become the "savior". The fact that they were the caused the pain in the first place is overshadowed by the relief the woman feels afterwards. Then they proceed to pimp them out again to make more money from them.

1nsomniac2234d ago

Yea right, they’re just doing it all completely for free. I really hate it when people say stupidly ridiculous lies & take people for idiots.

LandoCalrissiano2234d ago

https://www.polygon.com/e3/...

From 2016. Fe just released. Stop letting your blind hatred be a negative impact on the community. Stop calling people liars when you're the liar.

ziggurcat2234d ago

it says, "Soderlund added more of the profits will go into developers' hands", not "Soderlund added all of the profits will go into developers' hands."

LandoCalrissiano2234d ago

https://www.mcvuk.com/devel...

"We want all the profit to go back into the hands of the developers so they can keep innovating and developing into the future," said Soderlund.

So, yeah, soderlund did say all.

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_-EDMIX-_2234d ago

I don't understand? So even when the publisher actually does something that is nice it is claimed that is a lie? So when they give out free content it must be a trick? So when they don't do season passes and give all content for free they must be Liars?

ummm ok.

I don't think you guys are realizing that the more this company is doing the things that you ask the more you guys are actually doubting the company and bashing them even further....

So it's starting to sound like you guys hate this publisher regardless of what they're doing as this hate is more emotional and personal than it ever is objective.

PoSTedUP2233d ago

if there is any company to be cynical about, it is EA. they brought it upon themselves. a company like this has a long way to go to gain ppls trust and respect and its all their fault.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere4h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

PassNextquestion3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto3h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos2h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

XiNatsuDragnel2h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos43m ago(Edited 43m ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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I’m Glad Atlus & SE Changed Dates To Avoid Competing With Shadow Of The Erdtree

Saad from eXputer: "I'm glad I don't have to choose between Square Enix, Atlus, and FromSoftware due to bad release windows and Shadow of the Erdtree."

H921h ago

More intelligent than guerilla games

raWfodog4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Atlus is releasing their game one week before Erdtree, SE is releasing theirs one week after.

HZD released four days before Zelda, HFW released one week before Elden Ring.

It seems to me like they are still releasing their games too close to Erdtree.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg5h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos4h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well