Here's The "Violent Video Game Reel" Trump Shared At The White House

These are the games President Trump believes contributes to youth violence, and they include Wolfenstein, Modern Warfare 2, and more.

[FlyingFoxy]

Stop young kids getting the games from their parents, this is one of the biggest problems.

You don't give them horror films or 15/18 rated anime full of nudity, or hentai.. Why violent games then?

[NecrumOddBoy]

Yeah I agree. At the end of the day, it's a parent issue. Adults should filter content to their children based on individual maturity. Kids shouldn't be exposed to violence, sex, and profanity. Video games are just the medium like film or music. Mature subject material is detrimental to the psyche of developing mind.

[zerocarnage]

In my sons school and he's in year 9 age 13 they have Been putting condoms on dildo's for sex education, but you can bet the stink that would be made if say the same children were playing a video game that had such sex toys in, like dead rising or saints row and it came out.

One rule for one and a completely different sent for the rest it is..

[Bobafret]

In my observation most parents suck at actually raising their kids, so part of the blame goes on these aholes for not wanting to grow the f up.

[Gaming_1st]

Well the main problem is, kids having kids.While sexual activity is at a all time low around 40% for high school kids. But, about 25% of those kids end up pregnant. So over half of high school kids that have sex, end up pregnant. That's a staggering statistic.

[goldwyncq]

Kids are already exposed to violence, sex, and profanity and will continue to be whether you like it or not. Prohibiting them from playing mature games isn't going to solve the problem as they could easily just look up stuff online anyway. Kids are not as innocent as people would like to think.

[Akarogg]

@goldwyncq

goldwyncq the nihilistic passive, defeatist enabler. Look at the thumbnail in this article you bufoon

[abstractel]

I don't think video game violence fosters real world violence but I will say that as a kid, even if my parents wouldn't allow it, I was always able to find a way to watch R rated movies and play violent video games without them knowing.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Absolutely agreed I believe it's at the discretion of the parent and it's going to vary.

[nitus10]

@Gaming_1st

The problem you have with teen pregnancy is the fact that many religious groups totally oppose comprehensive sex education preferring to demand that teens practice abstinence instead of safe sex. https://thehumanist.com/com... (2017).

For those that aren't interested in reading the above link (there are plenty others), the overall view is that high religiosity usually points to high unplanned births among unmarried teens that are 15 to 19 year old.

[milohighclub]

"Kids shouldn't be exposed to violence, sex, and profanity." haha that's what schools for xD

[uth11]

> Stop young kids getting the games from their parents, this is one of the biggest problems.

how? everybody says this, but how do you actually do it? i know parents who bought GTA for their 10 year old. if you tell them it's not appropriate, they don't listen

[goldwyncq]

I played GTA 3 at that age and turned out just fine. It's not games but poor parenting that causes problems.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I actually agree I would argue the media's Vendetta with Grand Theft Auto only gave it more of an Infamous Mystique.

[LamerTamer]

It is not poor parenting that causes problems, it is that there are so many guns floating around that they are easy to get. If it was poor parenting and the kid couldn't get a gun there wouldn't be these issues.

[NeoGamer232]

Yup, video games can be violent but parents are buying their kids the games.

The second amendment is very flawed in the USA.

There are so many facts that support better controls on guns. The USA has more gun murders per capita than any other country in the world. That is the only fact that is needed to put controls on guns. The lowest gun murder countries are the ones with the most controls on guns. The correlation is very clear.

There are controls on video games. Parents should be aware of the content in the video games that they buy or let their kids buy.

This ends up being a battle of constitutional amendments. The right to bear arms and the freedom of expression. Both need to be controlled in some way. There is no need to bear arms in a safe society where no one has guns. And there is no need to expose people to extreme violence or verbal abuse in the name of freedom of expression. People look at these rights as completely blank cheques, when in reality they should not be. Either that or the rights should be changed. I shouldn't have the right to take someone's life arbitrarily, I should not be exposing myself to extreme levels of violence constantly, and I should not have the right to mock someone so badly that they feel like zero self worth.

[Jsoc]

I agree with u To a certain point, 1: bullies in school and on the internet. Parents have to control this at home .and School administration have to do a better job instead of looking the other way. I’ve been playing Video games since 1978. I have 3 kids that are 27,25,21 , all 3 played video games with me since the age of 4. They are not shooting up schools or killing anyone. Parents have to stop using tv and video games as babysitters. And be parents. And play attention at what they buy to make sure is age appropriate.

[81BX]

Building my AR with a smile on my face :)

[TheCommentator]

If it were a problem, then when violent games were introduced to the world violent crimes would have escalated. It was a problem when rock n' roll was "corrupting our youth" too. The problem isn't parents or violent games, it's the ignorant people who need a scapegoat to put blame onto instead of attacking the real issue of civilians with guns. Or Trump as a role model for our youth.

The US has to live both in a perpetual state of war and with the constant struggles of teenage soldiers going to war, then returning home suffering from PTSD for the rest of their lives. But hey, let's ramp up the military's budget and fight some more, not do anything to piss off the NRA, and blame gaming for the umpteenth time!

Games don't kill people, ignorance does.

[81BX]

Ding! Ding!

[subtenko]

So you are telling for parents to lose even more control over their own kids even though technically the gov owns them already which is lead down an even slippery slope and you are trying to bundle bad parent to the good parenting making it bad for everyone

also this happens with drugs and alcohol, and abuse too but no one is getting mad about that, you guys suck.... I feel you people are just parenting whats going around and you dont really truly gaf about whats actually happening and going on in the world.

[NeoGamer232]

I am not sure what you are referring to as a slippery slope.

There are many countries in the world that strictly control guns and they do not have the gun violence that the USA has. I live in Canada where guns are pretty strictly controlled. And we do not have near the issues the USA has on guns. I am not saying we don't have gun violence. But, it is way less than the USA.

The ERSB rates video games and those ratings are solely controlled by parents. Child exposure to violence is solely in the hands of parents. Yet, nobody has to receive any training or pass any course to become a parent. People choose to become parents often for very wrong reasons... "Babies are so cute" is a perfect example. You are creating a life and you become accountable for that life when you have a kid. Part of that accountability is understanding ratings on games and making sure your kid is mature enough to deal with that properly.

Finally, shaming other people no matter what their beliefs is not a formula for long term success at any time. What you say can create monsters. In order for society to not create monsters we have to understand what created them to begin with. I believe that no one is really born a murderer, they are created over the experiences of their life in combination with how their brain ticks. And there are tons of subtle thinks that happen through life that can create a murderer. Of which public shame, humiliation, intimidation, and bullying are part of subtle path adjustments that encourage them in different directions. It is just as much a crime to create a murderer as it is to murder because at the end of the day the murderer has already been killed before they start murdering.

[360ICE]

Fact is, not even that is really a problem when talking about gun violence. Trump is just fearmongering, as usual.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Overall i'm against this political agenda to censor videogames, but gunning down innocent civilians in an airport is unnerving. The rest of the gaming montage didn't bother me though.

I like my games adult, and i like artists having the ability to create without restrictions, but GTA has always seemed a bit senseless and irresponsible to me. Killing Zombies and Nazis by the truckload is acceptable because they are despicable targets, but freely mowing down innocent bystanders on the sidewalk is not an artistic expression of creativity, it's just sophomoric and needlessly violent. I personally outgrew that brand of violence when i was 16.

Beyond those minor complaints i do feel as though artists should be able to create adult content for adults, with less censorship. We are inundated with violence but games are banned for the slightest reference to anything sexual, it's a double standard. As long the game is appropriately rated and as long as the content serves a greater purpose in the narrative i think artists should be free to create art.

[OB1Biker]

The most violence in video games are actually not involving guns. This is just a montage to fit trumps narrative. There should be debates about the unjustified violence you talk about but not in this political masquerade

[NeoGamer232]

I agree, but the problem is that I doubt 70% of parents even know games are rated.

I have a friend that has two kids and we were talking one day. He said that it is a crime that there are no controls on video games like GTA. And then I told him about ESRB ratings. He had no clue there were ratings on video games. I have had the same discussion with many other parents. They just have no clue.

[The7Reaper]

I mean some parents give their kids horror movies, my parents bought me all 10 Friday the 13th movies when I was 8

[frostypants]

Very true. I'd add however that while that is a problem, it isn't likely the culprit for these shootings. Other countries have violent video games that get played by kids and don't have this issue. The problem, no matter how much people want to deny it, is easy access to guns.

[_-EDMIX-_]

well the reality is some parents to do so regardless of the medium you'll still have parents that are okay with giving this subject matter to their children. I actually believed if their parenting is correct it's not going to really affect their child all that much because if you have a kid that's able to understand the difference between something fictional and reality

There shouldn't be a problem in the first place. So my opinion though I'm not a parent I still understand that disciplining your children comes before any type of medium. So I believe parents should be over all disciplining their kids above trying to censor content because you have to question when you start censoring content exactly what is wrong with this child that they're unable to grasp some of these ideas?

So if they have to wait till they're more mature I believe that is at the discretion of the parent if they feel their child is able to understand these Concepts.

[LamerTamer]

How about we stop kids from getting guns from their parents, or from anywhere. These politicians are so dependent on their campaign contributions from the NRA that they will blame everything but easy access to guns. To them it is video games, movies, rap music, mental illness, everything except guns. I can't kill people with a video game or movie but I certainly can with a gun. Other countries around the world have violent games and movies but don't have the gun violence we do in the US. So what is the outstanding factor? Easy access to guns. I am not saying to ban them but they should not be so easy to get by anyone . Trump, keep your big government hands off my games!

[NeoGamer232]

How about people start dealing with all the ways that a murderer becomes a murderer...

Socially outcast, guns, violence, violent content, bullying, drugs, alcohol, abuse, etc. etc.

Murderers aren't created by a single event usually. They are created from a series of events that come together into a conclusion that they need to take action.

[oof46]

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[XiNatsuDragnel]

lol trump you've lots to learn here's a small loan of a million dollars to figure it out.

[Akarogg]

Your memes will not solve this one

[subtenko]

Of course not, thats all people know are memes and parroting what their handlers tell them. blue pilled idiots

[81BX]

You must have been following Trump. All it takes is a meme, a fox news segment, or a tweet.

[-Foxtrot]

Cherry picking can show whatever point you're making at the end of the day

[moegooner88]

60k dislikes, and they had to delist the video on the official Youtube channel. They might have to find a new scapegoat, or worse, face the facts.

[nitus10]

The facts are that many Senators (mostly Republican) will lose bribes (err campaign funds) if they vote for gun control reform.

I live in Australia and we do have fairly tough gun laws however that does not mean I can't get a firearm if I have a legitimate need and paranoia such as 1) the need to overthrow a tyrannical government. 2) Prevent home invasions. 3) Prevent muggings etc, are not acceptable as legitimate needs.

Basically, from a police perspective both in Australia and the USA the "man with a gun" is always the bad guy, so shoot first and ask questions later and this has been proven true particularly in the USA.

[OB1Biker]

This is a masquerade that shouldn't even happen. They should have refused the invitation because it actually looks like some dictatorship trying to manipulate the opinion.

[RainOfTerror]

Some of the footage in there is not even player footage but NPC cinematics (like the icon/screenshot here, it's a cinematic that is outside of the player's control).

[PhantomS42]

It's so disgusting how Trump creates his own reality. Sure create a reel that shows violence in video games but completely ignore all the good and beautiful moments or all the studies about how real-life violence is in no way connected to games or all the articles and posts about how games helped and even saved lives. let's pretend those don't exist.

[Uglyday]

Guns help save lives as well. Don’t pretend they don’t. Sure create 24/7 news that demonize one or two acts of insanity and ignore all other aspects of gun ownership. There are lots of studies done that prove that gun free zones are about the worst place to hang your hat. So whose studies do you want to believe?

“Don’t touch our games” people sound just like “don’t touch our guns” people. The real issue is our government sucks at doing it’s damn job when it comes to getting people who need to be gone, gone.

[PhantomS42]

Did I say anything about guns? No, I don't believe I did. Not to mention there are plenty of solutions to the gun issue without gun nuts thinking everyone is trying to "take our guns". Games/movies literally do not hurt anyone, guns and more specifically the people who have them do and things can be improved to prevent teenagers and people who severe mental disorders from obtaining them while still allowing the hunters, collectors, or average joe who wants it "just in case" to have them. Unlike what Trump and the NRA want you to think there is a middle it isn't just "pure evil liberal left" and "nazi ruled republican right". I don't care about either side and all the hate and fighting isn't making things better.

[Aenea]

So you're saying that in other countries where you can't easily get a gun or worse to live than the US?

The statistics don't back up your claim tho....

[TheCommentator]

What's disgusting is the fact that anyone even believes him... yet enough people did to elect him President.

[zerocarnage]

Trump needs to be gone, he's dangerous.

[Akarogg]

The Democrats attacking him from the right, demanding he be even more hawkish are far more dangerous

[_-EDMIX-_]

So they're more dangerous than the leader of the Free World? At some point you guys need to start giving this individual accountability because he cannot elect this person to have some sort of power and control and then try to absolve him of that same power and control

it cannot be both.

So right now the Republicans control the Senate the house and the White House there is no excuse for this crap any longer please stop trying to blame other parties when you have one party in control.

He was elected to lead...

But you're now telling me that someone has more control over him than him himself? Let's just jokingly entertain that does that not question his inability to lead in the first place if others could do more than him? 🤔🤔🤔

[Aenea]

@EDMIX

Oh for the love of anything that's holy, "the leader of the free world"? Really? Stop using that idiotic phrase since it's not correct. I live in a free country, he's not my leader....

[Akarogg]

No if they get into power a new cold war will begin. That is what I'm saying

[SR388]

Nintys fine lol

[Uglyday]

Which is easier to take away

digital copies of games or guns from 50%+ houses and hoods?

[Cajun Chicken]

It's laughable to even be suggesting getting rid of the games as opposed to the commercial and public gun market a scapegoat if there was one. A lot of people will disagree, but the US does not need guns, other countries like the UK and Europe work fine without personal arms. So tell me why America is specifically different.

[Fishy Fingers]

Makes you question why monthly school/mass shootings don’t happen in the rest of the world that enjoys the same ‘violent games’...

[Dirtnapstor]

What world do you live in?

[Aenea]

He probably lives in the same world as you. You do realise there are lots of other countries in the world we live in besides the US, right? And that many of those countries have rather strict gun laws and that shootings like this aren't as frequent or not happening at all?

Probably not, but now you do know...

[Dirtnapstor]

@Aenea
I know you are attempting to be sarcastic, but the US does not even fall into the top 10 countries of mass shootings. Fishy Fingers (and many others) make statements that are completely erroneous, and false assumptions and correlations are made.
You're from the UK, yes? Here's a reality check: there are more murders per capita in the UK than US. Rationalize that. Oh, and just to be clear, I do not buy in to the idea that videogames create killers.

[derek]

Nobody who really cared about the mass shootings phenomena would even touch the issue of violence in mass media; before dealing with the basic issue of ease of access to guns especially high powered auto/semi automatic rifles and amo first. It is strictly a diversionary tactic that should be completely ignored.

[traumadisaster]

Why did you slash auto? It's not automatic guns. You dilute your point by lying.

Why say rifles? Semi automatic hand guns are better in close quarters vs long guns, I think we learned that in cod a couple decades ago, not to mention real swat learned that as well long rifles don't work as well as short guns when moving in doorways and hallways. Hell play nerf guns in the house and a hand gun is more maneuverable than a long gun in close quarters.

[nitus10]

I think most people here know that automatic weapons are banned in the US and many other countries around the world for what should be fairly obvious reasons. The problem you have in the US is the fact that you can legitimately get large capacity magazines and "bump Stocks" which effectively change a semi-automatic weapon into something that is approaching the firepower of a military-style automatic weapon.

Most people would not know that it is very easy to counteract a rifle if you can quickly get close enough but you do need the skill and killing instinct to do this. Most people have at least a chance of running away from an armed aggressor (exception if they have a firearm) which is a natural human instinct when confronted with a life or death situation.

[Bobafret]

But isn't the root of the problem the urge to commit mass murder in the first place? And no, I am not saying it's video games. The problem is systemic and complex.

[senorfartcushion]

This GoP distraction is working better than the last few, eh?

[derek]

You can ban all violence in video games, movies music etc and these shooting will continue unabated.

[Relientk77]

Of course the Modern Warfare 2 airport level is in it lol

[majedx9]

he forgot this one
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Protagonist]

this does not happen in the rest of the world though, go figure huh...

[Bobafret]

Except that it does? This rose tinted view of the world outside the U.S. is silly.

[Protagonist]

I never heard of any other country blame violence on video games... but if you say so

[Aenea]

What does? Mass shootings? Yeah they can happen, don't happen frequently tho...

Perhaps you're the one wearing rose tinted glasses?

[Bobafret]

While we are at it, let's include slavery, genocide, and ethnic cleansing that takes place outside the U.S., or are we not counting those things so we can all have a good cry about being "ugly Americans"?

[maybelovehate]

It's too bad that isn't some sort of rating system for gaming.. Oh wait, never mind, There is.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

More gun control. Better mental services. Better parenting.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Trump has sold more lies than Sony has PS4s.

[Rangerman1208]

"Games are evil; they're bloody, gory, and corruots oue child's mind!
*shows a soldier killing Nazis*

Yeah, sure. Also, what about games like Horizon, or Zelda, or Mario or such? Those games didn't focused on gun violence. If your child gets corrupted because of video games, then it's your fault, not the devs'.

[Dirtnapstor]

You guys are really stupid if you think President Trump actually spent his time sifting through clips of video games, deciding “these are the games...that contributes to youth violence”. He also tagged the movie industry in his press release prior to this viewing. When is that meeting taking place I wonder. Do the Hollywood elites dare say anything? They certainly will if it’s to defame the President.

[traumadisaster]

Video games have always tried to replicate the violence in movies, hell most games aren't even original as Hollywood has made ultra violent mob dramas since the 1960s.

[nitus10]

You can pretty much go back to the beginning of movies or if you like to plays/books written thousands of years ago.

From a simple Google search:
"The first feature-length film was an Australian piece called The Story of Kelly Gang, which came out in 1906, though it got largely overshadowed by the epically long (and epically racist) Birth of a Nation, which came out nine years later and is often mistakenly credited as the first feature film."

[Einhander1971]

I agree parents should not be buying these games for there kids, and video games aren't the reason for these shootings. But youth today do like mindless violence, personally I think GTA is proof of this, what's cool about stealing cars being chased by the police etc etc.. kids and kids who haven't grown up buy this crap and make it no.1 in the video game charts.

[nitus10]

I do agree that is up to the parents or guardians to decide what video games are suitable for the children under their care. Personally, I would rather a "kid" (many are in their late teens and older) act out any mindless violence in a video game than actually do the same in real life.

As for "crap" well that is up to the gamer to decide what they like and don't like.

It is also very hypocritical of many so-called concerned theists to point at the evils of violent games, movies, books etc when their own holy books have passages that would make any violent game, movie or book seem tame in comparison.

[vasantasena]

"And then you go the further step, and that’s the movies. You see these movies, and they’re so violent, and yet a kid is able to see the movie if sex isn’t involved, but killing is involved, and maybe they have to put a rating system for that.”

There is a rating system for that. It's called the MPAA.

[MarineLineman]

This had to be the laziest editing for any montage ever. Who at the White House actually wasted their time making this?

[Pro_TactX]

I’m just going to say it: I’m ok with stronger age enforcement in video games. The fewer people having sex with my mother the better.

[sampsonon]

lol, the gamers that voted for trump :) hope you're happy lol

[Bismarn]

The Russian COD level is so much worse and tasteless than anything else ever made that it's unfair that it defines all of video games. But it does in many people's minds, and it will always be the centerpiece of all future anti-video game crusades. If this level and the forced torture scene of GTAV had never been made no one would have any ammunition.

[Bobafret]

I knew Russians had something to do with this!

[chiefJohn117]

Trump is pure evil. I curse all those that voted for him.

[Bobafret]

Cool, I am evil incarnate!

[chiefJohn117]

??? So you're Trump? You're a disgrace to the gaming race.

[Akarogg]

Calm down

[Majinzo]

This is not about video games etc.. it's about people control. Luckily, gamers stick together and they don't take bs from anyone.

[Knightofelemia]

The problem is the parents lack of education on the reading the warning the ESRB and what the rating means. Also the fact parents just buy these games because the videogame console is the babysitter because the parents are scared if the kid goes out to play there might be a weirdo at the park the kids are shut in. Or the fact the single parent has to work two jobs just to put food on the table and the videogame or the tv is the babysitter there.

I watched Robocop cop as a kid my parents knew it was a rated R movie and yes it was VHS but I watched it with my parents and they explained that it was all pretend and not real. I have been to Gamestop saw a father buy a Rated M game for his 7 year old little boy I just shook my head that falls back on the parents because they can't give their kid shit for acting up in the store and throwing a tantrum if they do the cops are called and you get charged with child abuse. So parents just buy the game to shut the kid up. I worked at Wal-Mart a grandparent bought GTA for her grandkid I told her what the game was like what you do in the game and mentioned the hookers she bought the game came back the next day and gave me shit because she was a friggin idiot and bought the game because her grandson wanted it I even called her a friggin idiot.

The problem is if your kid can't tell the difference between real world and a pretend world and whats real and whats fake you should not be having kids your parenting skills suck. If your kid sits in front of a tv all friggin day and is to lazy to play basketball in the driveway again you should not have any kids.

Putting all the blame on videogames is no different then the Salem witch hunts videogames are always the scapegoat while you neglect what goes on at school and what is on tv as well. There is a rating on the front of the game case like there is a tv rating and a movie rating take the time to read those ratings so you know what you're walking into.

[Schoolman]

AR-15z is the problem

Video games are video games

Outlaw other pieces of hardware we don’t need

Guns are cool... hunting is cool... don’t get me wrong but none of the average people need >= 1 of these or limited

[frostypants]

Man, wait til they see the violence in R rated movies...oh wait, they aren't scapegoating those.

[Schoolman]

Awesome... Not

Trumps an idiot #SmartMan #Not

He makes my blood boil

[Hakoom]

i doubt george bush played these games yet he kiled over a million ppl in iraq i also doubt trump played these games and yet hes also killing people in syria...

so this theory is wrong :)
video games doesnt generate these acts... politics and money do though

[Eulderink]

lel, been playing violent games since i was 9. Feel like i do something wrong since i haven't shot anyone yet, do i need so seek help? xD

[killswitch80]

and none of the shooters ever played this games .

[Schoolman]

Is the problem R rated movies? Is it video games? Is it mental health? Nurp. It’s the availability of assault rifles to people who can legally get them. People who might have mental health issues who watch R rated movies and play violent video games. Guns don’t kill people. People kill people? Resuscitators don’t save people. People save people? Wake the fuck up.

[Schoolman]

Making America great again 👍🏼

[DELTABOY04]

Only thing dumber then this trash Trump administration is the brain dead republicans still supporting it..damn shame...

[stokedAF]

Okay? Half of them are war games and the others are horror games. The only argument that I can understand is the “no Russian” scene being a cutscene instead. But if it’s okay to watch then why is it not okay to play? If you feel bad about it then good but it’s just a video game.

He glorifies the military and talks of a grand parade but then chastises the violence of war in video games? Okay. Many horror games utilize gore and shock tactics, most are fantastical by nature. You can see someone’s head being cut off on cnn. In reality, not in a video game.

[Fantomex]

The funny thing is, a lot of the violence in this video are clips from games you play as good guys. Good job.

[James Vanderbeek]

Do you people live in America? haha. Stock market booming, unemployment levels at there lowest, Jobs coming back to America, and oh wait North Korea is willing to talk to Trump and give up their nucs! And he isn't doing anything to video games. It was just a distraction so he can figure out this gun control stuff. He isn't going to change anything as you can read about it online! haha

[OffRoadKing]

A minute and thirty seconds of cherry picked scenes taken out of context to create a false narrative and take the focus off the real issue. Mission accomplished NRA.

[chaos-emeralds]

How did Halloween get a pass then.

[Tallpine]

If video games are truly to blame for real world gun violence, then why don't other countries like Canada or the UK that have the same video games have the same real world gun violence? It is obvious that America's unique gun problem stems from a unique right that other countries don't have. Trump is throwing everything he can at the wall to see what sticks.

[Rhythmattic]

No where near as bad as a Drumpf stupidity edit.

[lellkay]

This is the best they got? So tired of this narrative.

[BenRC01]

So kids getting hold of games is the problem eh? Not having more guns than humans in your country? You're all doomed. Doesn't happen anywhere else in the world.

[stokedAF]

“Doesn’t happen anywhere else in he world.”
That’s what America is all about, right? It used to be. That’s the paradox of freedom. People will eventually use their freedom to destroy their own freedom and then the process repeats. It’s just a matter of time, at least according to history.

To have 300 million guns in a country’s population and only have 10K-13K gun homicides a year (including legitimate self defense and illegal gun use) is a feat in itself. That’s not like anywhere in the world. Thats why I respect the American gun culture, precisely because people aren’t senselessly killing each other for the most part lol. It’s amazing to me honestly. We have bad areas like everywhere else though. The population as a whole is not on the downward spiral you are sensing. At least not for the reason you are suggesting lol.

[flak]

Video games don't make stupid gun laws or make idiots go into a school and shoot kids.

[PizzaSteve]

I never felt the need to hurt anyone in real life after playing a violent video game but it can't be denied that there's some gruesome parts in these video games.

[BLAKHOODe]

I think 99.9% of kids know the difference between video games and real life. My kid is only 10 and she plays Fortnite and GTAV - pretty good at them, too - and I haven't noticed any psychopathic tendencies out of her. But then, I also play the games with her, so while they might not be aged appropriate for her, as a gamer, I'm well aware of what she's being exposed to and I know my kid well enough that I know she can handle it. Besides that, the kids in her 4th grade class are also playing these games.

[Orionsangel]

All taken out of context and made to seem mindless. SMH

[bigmalky]

Always a scapegoat, but, the catalyst for gun massacres at schools will mostly be down to a couple of things that are rarely dealt with by governments properly...

Bullying and abuse.

It's rarely mentioned about a school shooter on their motives for killing, even if we don't know anything about them personally. It's always straight to the scapegoat.

So... The question of why the killer did what they did is always swept aside for a quick scapegoat and straight to the mental health problems. While no one deserves to be shot in these terrible instances, there is almost 99% a reason why these kids have mental health issues to be able to do something so extreme.

The trials and stresses of modern life and exposure to adult responsibility too early is almost never brought up in these cases.

[YOUDIEMOFO]

Trumps a toolbag flat out.....! And yes it is the parents who should be held accountable as little Timmy plays his bloody horror games at the age of twelve when they're meant for a n older more mature group as identified by the "rating" on the game!!

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