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Analyst Says XB1X Is A Great Deal at $499; Predicts 4M Shipped Through 2018, 5M for PS4 Pro

Lewis Ward, IDC Research Director, predicts that the Xbox One X will ship 4 million units through 2018, while PlayStation 4 Pro will ship 5 million in the same timeframe.

He also said that the console is a great deal even at $500, as the components teardown points to a retail price of $600, so Microsoft might even be losing money on the hardware.

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KaiPow2395d ago

That loss might explain the lack of pack-in software (it's just an additional licensing fee for software anyways?)

Imp0ssibl32395d ago

Did PS4 Pro have any of that at launch? Can't remember right now

crazychris41242395d ago

Pro at launch came with normal stuff you get in the box. Controller, cables, earphones, PS+ trial and the console. Pro didn't really launch alongside any games either. I bought it anyway because I wanted the most powerful Playstation console and there were plenty of games to play.

XStation4pio_Pro2394d ago

Mine was just the console, a controller, cords, that really crap headset speaker and some documentation.

yeahright22394d ago

I think from here on out (with maybe Nintendo being the exception), launch consoles are just going to come with trials of plus and live and those will give access to games you can play for a bit.

spreadlove2394d ago

No, PS4 Pro instead had an immediate promotion via Amazon and Target dropping the price $60 if I don't remember wrong.

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WePlayDirty2395d ago (Edited 2395d ago )

I see Playstation 4 Pro shipping more than 5 million if the marketing is good. As well as custom bundles/skins for the systems. That GT Sport and Rathalos ediiton are insane.

Gamist2dot02395d ago

Yeah. Gonna add Spiderman and God of War and if they drop the price.

WePlayDirty2395d ago

Yup. Dropping the Price of PS4 pro to 350, and PS4 to 250.. it’ll be an insane selling point.

WilliamSheridan2395d ago

If they are only $100 apart, i think you'll almost fully cannibalize the base model. $150 seems you be the magic number. PS4 needs to got to $220 in order to accept $350 for the Pro

iDadio2395d ago

Isn't Rathalos Japan only? It does indeed look sick.

FallenAngel19842395d ago

It's not like Sony or Microsoft will ever reveal the total numbers that each iterative console sold

WePlayDirty2395d ago

Right. But one can gauge with the PS4 Pro since Sony did make a statement about the percentage of them being sold.

KillBill2395d ago

A percentage of a number that still is not shared is still not revealing. All numbers are speculative off of a lot of data sourcing by others. Neither MS nor Sony has given actual direct numbers from what I have seen.

With that though... if Sony says Pro is 20% of their PS4 sales then that would mean at 5 million Pro sales they are expecting at 25 million overall sales for 2018. Either Pro sales will increase hugely in 2018 by estimate or a ridiculous amount of sales in PS4's 5th year on market.

Ju2395d ago

...Since Sony indeed made this (or a similar) statement, there is usually a market research done before. And forecasting a growth in the 4th year with additional competition can actually only mean one thing: A new very attractive price. We'll see...

OB1Biker2395d ago (Edited 2395d ago )

I don't think Xbox will be the same ratio low end/high end model sold than PlayStation. PS4 slim is very popular worldwide

yeahright22394d ago

@kill bill. It's 5 million through 2018, not in 2018. Meaning from launch until December 2018 there will be 5 million ps4 pros sold.

SpinalRemains1382394d ago

They would have to make a direct comparison to past sales in order to get an accurate idea.

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FallenAngel19842395d ago

That percentage may not always stay constant

WePlayDirty2395d ago

Correct. but it gives us a rough estimate.

Goozex2394d ago

I want a pro too but will wait till black Friday deals

SpinalRemains1382394d ago (Edited 2394d ago )

Get one. The HDR alone makes it worth it. I couldn't believe how profound the difference is.

Sorry, didnt realize the base model added it with 4.0

The pro is still a great upgrade.

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Chatting Shadows of the Damned: Hella Remastered with Suda51

CGM Writes: While we were over at PAX East, we were able to sit down with Goichi Suda (Suda51) and talk about the upcoming remaster of Shadows of the Damned

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Sega Franchises That Deserve a Comeback

We explore the Sega classics that are ripe for revival! From Panzer Dragoon Saga to Virtua Fighter, discover why these legendary games deserve a comeback on next-gen consoles. Dive into a nostalgic journey and see which Sega titles are set to captivate a new generation of gamers in 2024.

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ZeekQuattro4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Turned based Phantasy Star and Shinning Force remain at the top of my list of Sega IPs that need to return. At the very least I'd take a Shining Force collection that has 1,2,3, CD and the Game Gear entries.

FinalBoss4d ago

I was hesitant to put these two on. I've personally played more PSO than the RPG version. And shame on me, I don't remember much about Shining Force to talk about it properly.

That said, so many Sega licences deserve their place in this list.

jznrpg2d ago

A new Phantasy Star in the numbered series would be amazing. Shining Force too. But I’d settle on some collections as that’s probably the best we will get

anast4d ago

I don't trust Sega to do a proper comeback. The games will be just remastered and/or monetized to death.

gold_drake3d ago

shining force.

but indont see that happening unfortunately.

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Former Blizzard President Suggests Players Should Have Option to Tip Developers

Former Blizzard president Mike Ybarra recently suggested an interesting concept that has sparked a debate among gamers - the idea of being able to tip developers after completing a game.

LG_Fox_Brazil10d ago

If I had a 100% way to be sure that this money would go to a fund or a reserve dedicated only to the guys who develop the games, be them designers, artists, programmers and so on, I could think about it.

But we all know that this 'tip' would only end up in a publisher's CEO pocket to buy a new yacht, so, no, I ain't tipping anyone anytime soon on this industry

neutralgamer19929d ago

Exactly these companies were raising money for good causes and gamers were donation and come to find out they are keeping a good chunk of be pie

PapaBop9d ago

Yeah tip your developer, 5% proceeds go to developer, 95% to the publisher or whoever. Isn't tipping for staff not making minimum wage? How about they just pay their developers properly and like you know, give them fair bonuses? Too much to ask from Blizzard these days, Kotick saw to that and is now laughing all the way to the bank.

MrDead9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

It's the t**ts at the top looking at ways to cut devs wages and get the players to tip them like waiting staff, and I'll guarantee a percentage is skimmed and kept by Activision Blizzard. This is 100% for shareholder and CEO playouts.

Popsicle9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

I have to agree with this. On the surface tipping devs sounds like a great idea, but in the end it leads to pay cuts and subsidization of pay. Tips then become an expectation or the devs “can’t make a living.” Lastly, especially in the US, tip culture has gotten out of control, and it serves as an excuse not to properly pay employees. Sounds good but doesn’t end well.

drizzom8d ago

@ Popsicle

I think your right on the nose with how much tipping has become rampant. Instead of it being a relationship directly between the customer and the developer or employee, it now has a middle man ingrained in the system. DoorDash is one example. It ends up becoming a metric where the company can measure 'just how much more money you are willing to part with' before raising the price on the main product.

1Victor9d ago

Uh so they’re trying triple dip or more we buy the game that they’re already withholding/cutting content for dlc we was told that season pass would help the developers thrive we felt for it.
Now on top of all that plus their sales bonus they want tips enough is enough whatever happens to you create/built a good game get a bonus for sales milestones you care about your game and community we reward you with more sales not for doing 3/4 of a game then save the other 1/4 for dlc and passes after

raWfodog9d ago

The 'tip' is me buying your game in the first place.

S2Killinit9d ago

Very well said. If it was possible to send the money to either the developer or some organization for the betterment of gaming, sure. But we all know that will not be the case.

Rynxie9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

No, it would go to those on the top. They will still fire developers, have a bunch of microtransactions, raise prices of games and so on.

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H910d ago

So they eventually don't pay their workers and depend on our tips to pay them like the case with waiters!

Deeeeznuuuts9d ago

That kind of practice is only normal in the states, as far as I know anyway, what a backwards system

H99d ago

No it's as well in a every country that wants to amercanize

bloop9d ago

Ireland is literally the first stop across the pond and we don't have a tipping culture. The only establishments here that would expect a tip are the tourist haunts that Americans visit. Other than that, you might tip in a restaurant as a sign of gratitude for great service and waiting staff would be paid a full wage anyway.

Rebel_Scum9d ago

Tipping is not customary iin most countries dude. Get a passport lol.

Jin_Sakai10d ago

Is this a joke? How about the big wigs giving up some of their pay for their hard working developers.

MrBaskerville9d ago

Maybe the CEO could earn his money based on tips.

mastershredder10d ago

good god. The devs are not baristas dude. Total 1% ideals. Fing Chadosaurus.

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