Raiders of the Broken Planet Supports CrossPlay; Target to Run at 1440p on XB1X and 1260p on PS4 Pro

MercurySteam confirmed that Raiders of the Broken Planet supports crossplay, even though Sony denied it for Xbox One as usual. They've also revealed technical specs for Xbox One X and PlayStation 4 Pro.

[ccgr]

Great news all around!

[DeadSilence]

"True 4K Gaming".

Barely above Ps4 Pro in resolution though 😂😂😂

[Imp0ssibl3]

It would take over 10 teraflops to run all games at true 4K

[KaiPow]

Or just more efficient design..

[FITgamer]

*Native 4K. "True 4K" is marketing lingo BS Microsoft came up with reminiscent of "the power of the cloud" . According them anything that outputs in 4K is "True 4K" so the XB1S also does "True 4K".

[OMGitzThatGuy]

Still wouldn't happen as devs dont stick to a standard and push graphics and worry about res later.

[goken]

or just a really low graphic intensive game... like pong or pac man lol

[butchertroll]

@FITgamer

Quote :
*Native 4K. "True 4K" is marketing lingo BS Microsoft came up with reminiscent of "the power of the cloud".....

LOL @ disagree votes, FIT.
Xbone fans DELIBERATELY ignore what Phil Spencer said when Eurogamer had a interview with him.

[OpenGL]

Even that depends on what quality you're targeting. My overclocked 1080Ti is more than 12TFLOPs but some games like Quantum Break cannot be run at 4K without major visual compromises.

[rainslacker]

@Fitgamer

According to industry standards for rendering output, anything that outputs from the frame buffer at 4K resolution is native 4K. How it actually achieves that output is irrelevant. That's why MS and Sony can say native 4K and not have to worry about legal implications.

That means that even Sony has a "true 4K" machine if you really look at the definition of what is considered native 4K.

Obviously, there is a contextual element to it for discussion, but MS knew that would happen, which is why they are happy to allow the term native and true be used interchangeably, because they knew there would be those who don't differentiate between the two. Sony isnt really all that better in this regard, but at least they coined a term which is a bit more distinct, and explained it early without allowing the perception to make it seem like it was more than it was.

[MegamanXXX]

Probably my first time hearing a game running in 1260p though 😅 but I barely play on consoles

[Alexious]

It is indeed a peculiar target resolution...

[Ashunderfire86]

Hey since that resolutions allow them to give both Xbox and PS4 versions 60fps, I am all for it. 1260p is funny, but at least its better than 1080p lol!

[Ju]

Not much impact over 1080, but well. Better than nothing.

[BigWan78]

they only talking resolution... you also have to consider graphics...

resolution and graphics are not equal.

[Ju]

"Same performance ballpark"...

[mandingo]

True 4K for exclusive titles

[Bigpappy]

This game runs true 4K on the X, but at 30fps .

[badz149]

watch Digital foundry channel as they always do GPU or CPU test there with a number of games. as you can see, even with the best single card GPUs of today, they struggle to do 4K60fps at the highest settings especially with newer games. achievable with some settings lowered though and those specs they have to achieve it aren't exactly on console's price range.

with consoles equivalent GPUs, 1440p is still the most that can be achieved before framerates start to suffer

[itsmebryan]

None the less it is still higher than the Pro.

[Gazondaily]

Lol at 1260p on Pro 😂

[DJStotty]

but still above lolz

[Neonridr]

do you really want to make fun of the more powerful machine? Seems like a losing argument if we are going to brag about resolution or framerate. You could always go back to the tried and true exclusives argument.. that seems to work around here.

[KingKionic]

"The Xbox One X runs the game at 1440p resolution, with a target performance of 60fps.
The PS4 Pro runs the game at 1260p resolution, with the same target performance."

So Xbox One X will run this game at 60 FPS.

Lightwork for the beast.

[Nyxus]

Not really light work, they went with 1440p because 4K would not have allowed for 60fps:

"The team tested the game at full 4K resolution on Xbox One X earlier in development, but going that way would have meant a lower framerate. Thus, it was decided to use the aforementioned resolutions and a smoother, faster gameplay experience."

[KingKionic]

At least the Xbox One X can run this at native 4K 30 FPS if the developer wanted to.

Ps4 pro would of exploded.

[Nyxus]

@ Kionic: what does the Pro have to do with this? If it was light work, they would have made it run in 4k, which they tried.

[DJStotty]

@nyxus

They did get it running in 4K as stated, but they didnt want the difference in framerates

[KingKionic]

There also will most likely be added details on Xbox One X.

Im sure a native 4K option will be there.

Its all up to devs here.

[Babadook7]

No mention of any other improvements though.

[Razzer]

You are making shit up that they didn't say.

[KingKionic]

Definitely possible to have improvements further.

We have seen several devs already show improvements in 4K resolution and added effects.

My prediction isnt out of the realm a possibility.

[jmc8888]

Will run at 60 FPS? Maybe not.

Saying it is 'targeting' 60 FPS is not the same as achieving it.

Sounds like 35-60 FPS at 1440p.

It also doesn't mean it could hit 4k/30. It might have 'targeted' 30, but ended up 20-30.

So if you are merely targeting '60' at 1440p, then when people postulated that X1X was a 1080/60 at some higher settings and/or 4k/30 with dips machine, once again looks correct.

Of course a CPU that runs games at 35-50 FPS where other CPU's can do 100-120 FPS is probably the main bottleneck. Also 6 TFLops AMD is just decent power. It literally is a Pro+1 year of medium seeking performance.

[Bigpappy]

I guess it is because this game is focused on multi-player, they did allow the choice between 4K30 and 1440p60 on the X1X.

[Bigpappy]

Amendment: Did NOT allow 4K30 on the X

[MegamanXXX]

My guess it's the Laptop cpu being the bottleneck 😅

[Bigpappy]

They clearly stated in the article that they are cheap 4K 30 but wanted 4K 60 and they drop the resolution down to 1440p to achieve a steady 60. What exactly does the type of CPU have to do with what I just said

[DigitalRaptor]

I don't see the link to a source about this being Sony's fault that there's no cross-play between consoles so can anybody provide that? I'll happily read and accept if it's there.

Next up it mentions that cross-play is only available separately between XB1/W10 and PS4/Steam. Now people have tried using theoretical reasons as to why it's good for the future of games and that multi-player games will not die as quickly with more platforms.

So if that's true and people are actually sincere about it and not just concern trolling as usual, then where is the huff and the concern about Microsoft not putting all their first party games on Steam? Most of them are multi-player and most will die a lot sooner unless they get a larger player base via Steam. But we all know know that it's a business decision from MS. So I'll ask, why is MS not doing that? It's about the same theoretical reason as people that are being dramatic about Sony not enabling cross-play between more platforms. Plus we all know how particular MS is about cross-play and where they decide it's not worth it for their audience, just like Sony decides what cases of cross-play is good for them.

[Bigpappy]

You guys can't just work with what's at hand? This cross play thing is obviously targeted at multi-plat games. You are so eager to defend Sony on this, that you bring up this idea that M$ should now put their EXCLUSIVES on Steam. Aren't you one of the leaders of the Xbox need Exclusives team? Now with the other side of your mouth, you are asking for them to take the ultimate step and just give up all their exclusives to steam. You seem to be suffering from schizophrenia my friend. seek help

[LP-Eleven]

With a response like this, I'm not sure he's the one in need of help. At least with basic discussion. You should at least make an effort to debate his points.

That said, I'd prefer for Microsoft to salvage whatever exclusives that they have. Unlike most, I'm fine with the W10 Store, so long as it's functional and I can jump right into a game.

[gangsta_red]

@LP

How can you debate with someone who constantly flip flops on their stance because every comment left makes a point to hate anything MS/Xbox or lay the blame on MS for everything...even if Sony does it too.

Why doesn't he answer the actual concern this article mentions of Sony not wanting to do crossplay with Xbox? Instead he goes into the flashdance of trying to bring up some type of Xbox/Steam as if that was anyone's concern to begin with.

"That said, Sony once again denied the possibility for PlayStation and Xbox One/Windows 10 users to play alongside one another."

We have answered digital's questions before in the past and he remains ignorantly silent as he moves on to the next article and tries to shift the focus off of Sony and back on to MS.

We have posed the question many times to him, why Sony won't allow 3rd party devs to enable cross platform play between PS4 and Xbox One.

And what does MS putting all their first party games on Steam have to do with crossplay? Why would MS do this instead of supporting their own Win 10 store for PC's? He brings up unrelated points in hopes to get the focus off of Sony and their current decisions to all of sudden not want crossplay between the two.

And this developer even plans on having crossplay between Xbox and Steam players as stated in the article...so what does this have to do with MS putting all their games on Steam...for what reason and how is it related to Sony denying crossplay to 3rd party devs who have this function ready to go?

[christocolus]

Lol. So true.

[mkis007]

Red...i don't think they are unrelated.

You ask why Sony won't allow crossplay with a specific system not owned by sony, he asks why Microsoft won't put their game on a store they don't own.

I think both answers are one and the same. They don't have to support their competition.

[freshslicepizza]

@mkis007
"You ask why Sony won't allow crossplay with a specific system not owned by sony, he asks why Microsoft won't put their game on a store they don't own. I think both answers are one and the same. They don't have to support their competition."

Sony is blocking access for third party publishers to host the games online, that's the difference. They are not allowing those third party publishers to host the games if those games connect to other consoles. We all know it's in the company's own interest to support and push their own exclusives to help promote the hardware they sell or the online stores they have invested in (Electronic Arts Origin for example and and Windows Store with Microsoft published titles).

[ziggurcat]

@moldy:

"Sony is blocking access for third party publishers to host the games online, that's the difference. They are not allowing those third party publishers to host the games if those games connect to other consoles."

citation, please. what proof do you have to support this ridiculous claim?

[DigitalRaptor]

@ ziggurcat

You want moldybread to provide citation on anything to do with this whole cross-play thing? Don't be ludicrous. His continuing claims are about as honest and truthful as when gangsta_red kept claiming that Sony just threw bags of money at Capcom for Street Fighter V to be exclusive to one console, because "it's common sense" rather than actual facts. Those guys don't do citation when they're attempting to win an argument they are not armed to win.

[freshslicepizza]

@ziggurcat
"citation, please. what proof do you have to support this ridiculous claim?"

This game,

https://www.gamevicio.com/n...

"The MercurySteam also confirmed the Wccftech that Raiders of the Broken Planet will support crossplay, which can be enabled in the options panel. Having said that, Sony again denied the possibility that PlayStation and Xbox One and PC users play side by side. Thus, Raiders of the Broken Planet will only support the crossplay between PC and Xbox One and PlayStation 4 and Steam at launch. However, developers expect that Microsoftgive green light soon to allow crossplay between users of Windows 10 , Xbox One and Steam in a future upgrade. After all, Microsoft has already confirmed that this will be possible in Killer Instinct once it reaches Steam later this year, so it's only a matter of time."

Rocket League,

https://www.polygon.com/e3/...

“The honest answer is PlayStation has not yet granted us permission,”

[Death]

I just want to know why Sony is begging Steam to have access to their userbase. Does the mean there aren't enough players on PS4? Weird how those that claimed Microsoft were the beggers when they supported cross play with PC and Switch aren't mentioning this now. I guess Sony is throwing a bone to those 125 million active Steam users.

[Ju]

But he's right, though. Not about the "MS pulling games from Steam", but why doesn't MS allow cross play with Steam but XBLive (XB/Windows)? Of course that's MS's business decision. Same as Sony not allowing XBLive with PSN connectivity. Of course it isn't a technical reason. The netcode is most likely running on a PC anyhow. Really not rocket science to have a client connect to it, no matter what match making "platform" one uses.

[ziggurcat]

@moldy:

that's awfully quick to point the finger at Sony without knowing exactly why they said no. Before you accuse Sony of being the villain, the issue could easily be with MS if Sony has zero problem implementing cross play with Steam/PC.

[freshslicepizza]

@ziggurcat
"that's awfully quick to point the finger at Sony without knowing exactly why they said no. Before you accuse Sony of being the villain, the issue could easily be with MS if Sony has zero problem implementing cross play with Steam/PC."

I have proof on my side along with Microsoft allowing games to actually be crossplay with Steam, you on the other hand have conjecture and a bone to pick with Microsoft while wanting to give Sony the benefit of the doubt. So tell me again which side looks more feasible, a developer who actually works with both partners, or you?

[ziggurcat]

@moldy:

proof of what, exactly? are you privy to any of the negotiations that likely would have occurred between MS/Sony or do you really believe it's as simple as saying, "yeah, sure, why not"? what proof do you possess that gives the specific reasons why Sony has said no to the games they have so far? is it stubbornness on Sony's part? Sony having security concerns? MS wanting this to occur on their servers, thus requiring PS owners to create XBL accounts like Switch owners have to do for Minecraft cross play? MS requesting access to PS user information?

"you on the other hand have conjecture and a bone to pick with Microsoft..."

that's a gross assumption.

"... while wanting to give Sony the benefit of the doubt..."

you're clearly failing to understand that it's a far more complicated process than saying yes or no. do you honestly believe that MS is just opening their doors wide open on this without having any stipulations/requirements/poli cies put in place in order for them to benefit from this in some way, shape or form? do you honestly believe that negotiations wouldn't be required?

[4Sh0w]

ziggurcat,

moldy didn't say he knew why, he said and proved with links of the devs saying Sony won't allow it. Sure we could guess it's because there is no financial incentive for Sony in it but regardless of the reason WHY, fact is it's Sony holding it back.

Personally I don't care much, every major online multiplat game that I play has plenty of enough playerbase to make finding online games simple enough, plus I like the idea of having sub commmunities in gaming, you kind of build little groups based on similarities...I dont know that playing with ps gamers would improve anything unless you really have some tight friends on ps4 and neither of you are willing to get both hardware.

[ziggurcat]

@4show:

"moldy didn't say he knew why, he said and proved with links of the devs saying Sony won't allow it. Sure we could guess it's because there is no financial incentive for Sony in it but regardless of the reason WHY, fact is it's Sony holding it back."

you can't say they're holding anything back without knowing why they're saying no to begin with... it could turn out that MS are the unscrupulous ones in all of this, and it could be that Sony are just being jerks. there's a lot of painting Sony as the villain without all of the facts.

[4Sh0w]

ziggurcat,
"you can't say they're holding anything back without knowing why they're saying no to begin with...it could turn out that MS are the unscrupulous ones in all of this"

-Oh come on, now you want to blame Microsoft, the same company who has been very open to crossplay and is on the record *publicly asking Sony to allow it. Im not mad at Sony its their business decision to not allow it but then they should live with the bad press and messaging from that decision. Also why would Sony not say so if it were something sinister or technical on Microsofts part??? And why would the devs be saying that instead of this:

"And right now the only company keeping that from happening is Sony. So what’s holding it up?
“The honest answer is PlayStation has not yet granted us permission,” Jeremy Dunham, VP of publishing at Psyonix, told Polygon." https://www.polygon.com/e3/...

-So of course I can say it because its info straight from devs, youre the one assuming out of thin air its something shady on Microsoft's part.

-Again I don't give a rat's arse but you sound ridiculous defending Sony.

[rainslacker]

Is there cross play between Windows Store and Steam? if not, then why not call out MS?

If Sony will allow it with PC, why only on Steam? Why not with Windows Store? Nothing would prevent them from enabling it on Windows store now would it? Or would there be something?

This is a 3rd party game. MS should have no control over the cross play between Steam and WStore. Yet here we are. Dev seems cool with cross play. Seems odd to restrict different markets on the PC when they have absolutely no vested interest in doing so. Their game would probably be better off with it even.

[ziggurcat]

@4show

"... now you want to blame Microsoft, the same company who has been very open to crossplay and is on the record *publicly asking Sony to allow it."

you have no idea whether MS are the ones who are asking for with regards to cross play. MS is certainly trying to make themselves look like the hero, but it could easily be something MS is asking for that's causing Sony to continually say no. Did it ever occur to you that there might be something else to allowing cross play than saying yes or no? Why would Sony, who wanted to do cross play last gen, and has a handful of games that support cross play with PC/PS4, say no to cross play with Xbox? It's clearly something neither party is willing to discuss.

"So of course I can say it because its info straight from devs..."

no, because you don't have the full story.

[4Sh0w]

rainslacker,
"Is there cross play between Windows Store and Steam? if not, then why not call out MS?"

#1 I haven't heard any one 3rd party dev call for Microsoft to allow crossplay with Win10 and Steam for any specific game. Please provide a link if so.

#2 If you are implying Microsoft should put their 1st party or exclusive developed Xbox branded games on Steam and Win10 (a believe a couple are) that's a totally different scenario because Microsoft, are of course on pc to build a ecosystem with their Windows 10, not to freely give the competition the games they funded themselves....that would be like saying Sony should put their exclusives on Xbox= nobody is suggesting Sony give up their exclusive games, we are only discussing them not allowing crossplay for 3rd party games....and btw yes if you have some info besides lip service pointing Microsoft not allowing a devs request for crossplay, I'll join you in calling them out, lol I call out Microsoft plenty. >>>>>So please tell me what Steam/Windows10 games we should be calling out Microsoft for not allowing crossplay?????

ziggurcat,
"no, because you don't have the full story."

- You can continue sticking your head in the sand but anybody looking at the qoutes from the devs can only laugh at you:

"This prompted someone to ask whether PS4 and Xbox One audiences would ever be able to play Ark together, to which Stieglitz replied: "We have it working internally, but currently Sony won't allow it" -Ark Survival Evolved dev http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

-I already qouted the Rocket League dev saying Sony won't give permission is the only thing stopping it.

-Plus this is from Sony's Ryan: "We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base."= when pressed on his vague answer it's quite clear it's a business decision by the market leader...its not even just my opinion everyone, every game site, all the devs who have tried and even pro ps folks know this is on Sony.

-lol, you can bet if it was something Microsoft was asking for that was a deal.breaker we would know because ain't no way in he'll Sony would take the heat and not say anything, that's why Ryan was dancing around the question= he can't just say hey we have the market lead, if you want to play with ps4 gamers get a ps4, screw any current ps4 owners who say otherwise, we already have their money, but yes that's how it is.

[ziggurcat]

@4show:

you can show quotes from devs regarding other games until you're blue in the face, but they don't apply here. show me a quote from the devs of THIS game saying that Sony has explicitly said no to cross play. no one here, including myself, is refuting Sony saying no to cross play for other games, by the way, but that doesn't mean that they will say no every single time. and you conveniently keep ignoring the fact that cross play is implemented on a bunch of games between PC/PS4, so if they were truly against the practice, or were concerned about children/security that they'd not allow it across the board. this clearly points to something with regards to the negotiations that have probably gone on between MS/Sony related to cross play between Xbox/PS4. I don't think Sony would just say no for the sake of saying no - MS probably has some demands that Sony just doesn't agree with at this time.

[4Sh0w]

lol, I show you links with devs saying point blank they have crossplay working BUT SONY WONT ALLOW IT= you tell me about a made up theory that Microsoft *maybe, *could have, *possibly, *might, have some scary terms Sony can't agree to, your proof is a dev saying so, -Nope, oh Sony said this, -Nope.

lol, plain and simple you're making up theories out of thin air, ironically when the devs themselves have told you exactly why. No use talking to you anymore you've made up your mind not to accept the truth, if Sony themselves said to your face they are blocking it to boost ps4 sells so that folks by a ps4 to play with their friend you'd still be foaming at the mouth screaming for Microsoft's head, lol...but sad too.

[ShottyatLaw]

There has been a push for Win 10 titles to hit steam. I'd encourage you to look elsewhere for non-fanboy comments, though. People are speaking out about it directly and through their wallets.

That's why you see Killer Instinct going to Steam, with W10 and X1 cross play. Go look at the positive responses in those articles. It's great IMO. Smaller titles like this one would greatly benefit from the same.

[slavish0]

Bro sony said it is protecting kids and stackholders. They have public said they wont allow crossplay. Multiple dev have confirmed sony keeps saying no. What does it take for u to understand this is a big "L". Each system has its pro's and con's n4g stop making excuses 😒

[ziggurcat]

1. Jim Ryan said those things, not Sony. Jim Ryan is not Sony. I'm sure if Yoshida or Layden were asked about cross play, they'd have very different answers. Also, what is a stackholder?
2. They never said they wouldn't allow cross play. They allow it between PC, and PS4, so... they clearly aren't against cross play.
3. There's more to it than just saying "no." What, specifically, lead Sony to saying no to cross play in any of the games they've not agreed to it?

[slavish0]

Zigg who does jim ryan work for? LMFAO 🤣 if phil Spencer said this people would riot and for good reason. Im sure u wouldnt say "oh, its phil talking not Microsoft/xbox" GTFO seriously. Take this "L" on your way

[DJStotty]

@ziggurcat

Jim Ryans statement -

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

He is the PlayStation global sales and marketing head, so yeah he makes statements for Sony, otherwise he would be out of a job for making false statements

and for your question, Sony President Yoshida's statements

http://fraghero.com/sony-pr...

[ziggurcat]

@stavish:

Jim Ryan doesn't represent the whole company. If Spencer made an equally idiotic statement about children, I'd be singling out Spencer, not citing MS as a whole.

@DJ:

"Jim Ryans statement ... He is the PlayStation global sales and marketing head..."

I'll stop you right there. sales, and marketing head, not president of the company. he is also not the sole representative of the company. jesus, if you were going to take the words of a global sales/marketing lead as gospel, MS would be in a lot of trouble if they let Greenberg be the sole voice for the company.

and you should read that article you cited related to Yoshida... he doesn't say anything other than that Sony supports cross play. all you did with that was prove that Yoshida had a different answer than what Jim Ryan had said.

[DigitalRaptor]

The most important thing to take away from this, is that NOBODY provided me the link I asked for.

Moving away from that for a second, the funny thing about your responses is that I'm just looking at it from an alternative angle here. It's clear that you completely missed my point, and it's because you're being reactionary and are annoyed at how my question makes sense, when you think about it. I'm not saying MS should put games on Steam. I'm saying that if this cross-play reasoning means so much to you guys as you keep claiming that it does, then why are you not pushing for MS to do the same with their own games on the platforms that you care about? It's the same logic and it's something you've clearly just dismissed for the agenda you all love to push.

It's funny how you can't see that by making excuses that MS is not providing cross-play with most of their first-party multi-player games by putting them all on Steam and saying that MS is just "supporting their own Win 10 store for PC's", you're basically saying that it's okay for MS to support their ecosystem by doing the opposite of what you think is what will help multi-player games thrive for longer, but not okay for Sony to support its ecosystem in whatever way they want to support their own business. Hmmm... those double standards creep out so quickly that you must have missed them.

And bigpappy, is this all really aimed at multi-player games, or is that something you've just decided is the case? Why should MS's own games be the exception to the rule when they're the one pushing this so hard? It reminds me of all the commotion that was stirring when Sony wouldn't allow mods on their console or only restricted mods, and how many games have mods on either console over 2 years later? Roughly 3 games, and none of them are from MS's own first-party studios. So again, do these things that only Xbox fanboys make a fuss about REALLY matter? Are they relevant? Not really. The people making the fuss now didn’t make a fuss when Sony was doing cross-play with PC for years from last-gen onwards, and it’s 100% obvious why it’s a matter of concern NOW and only now, and the excuses about how cross-play prolongs the lifespan of multi-player games are coming out NOW and only now.

The other angle I was referring to is that MS has their own odd, unexplained restrictions on cross-play for the PC platform, as I've outlined multiple times before. This was something that was ignored to no end by all the Xbox fanboys on here when I brought it up in earnest and on cross-play articles. Gangsta claims my questions were already answered but go back to those articles and see for yourselves. See certain people ignoring them because it exposed their double standards. A person can talk about me "flip-flopping" because he has this grudge against me but they only have to look at themselves. Notice how gangsta always goes after me, but doesn't go after his buddies who do the same things he has a go at me for doing. Such as the very "flip-flopping", hypocrisy that his friend on here is known for. He's been trying to discredit me for years, he's been outlining the hypocrisy that he thinks Sony fans display, but ignores it when it comes to his friends who defend MS and criticize Sony, even if there are double standards involved, which there certainly are.

And you might want to pay attention to how moldybread conducts himself in these cross-play articles when I'm around. He dodges responding to me, cause he knows I've well and truly exposed his double standards when it comes to cross-play, among other things. Even if certain realities come to light that weren’t known before about cross-play on PC, that guy has made excuses for MS that blow his double standards wide open.

[Death]

You should hold yourself to the same standards you hold everyone else to. No one is trying to discredit you on n4g. You would have to be taken seriously first. As for Sony doing crossplay with PC in the past, no one was complaining that Sony supported it before, they are complaining that Sony doesn't support it now in the same capacity as everyone else. It's much less an issue to everyone else that Sony blocks their players from games and the only ones that are really impacted are PlayStation gamers. The reason people are talking about it NOW is because progress is being made to unite gamers in ways we haven't seen in the past. It makes no sense that any gamers would support Sony for restricting their access to crossplay today when we see both Nintendo and Microsoft embracing it.

As for Windows Store vs. Steam, if Microsoft releases games on Steam they are losing a sale from their own store and also impacting Play Anywhere titles. That is clearly a conflict of interest for them and I am surprised to see they are actually starting to do this. Clearly you don't understand how crossplay works if you are demanding Microsoft release their entire library on Steam before Sony allows crossplay which doesn't take sales away from PlayStation. PlayStation gamers don't have to buy a copy of a game from Microsoft to enable crossplay with Xbox gamers.

[DigitalRaptor]

@ LP-Eleven

Thanks, that guy's attempts to discredit me are alway funny because they don't really address the validity of my comments. Its often goes to a personal attack mode without anything of substance. Look how quickly he aimed to discredit me, just because I questioned something that both made sense and he didn't want questioning, just like a lot of people. He doesn't like it when his own ilk's double standards are exposed. Now you'll see that he often makes false statements saying that he's answered my questions in the past, and in this case it would only be true if I've missed it, which I don't believe I have. He says: "We have posed the question many times to him, why Sony won't allow 3rd party devs to enable cross platform play between PS4 and Xbox One.". Not really, not all that true.

[Bigpappy]

I don't see where you have any credit though. So there is none to lose. You are mostly known for trolling Xbox. That will get you some credit with those who like to do the same, but NOT a good reputation nonetheless.

[DigitalRaptor]

Just because you don't see it means nothing. You were known for being a fanboy with lots of broken logic during the 360 era. If you've mellowed out since then then cool, but whatever. Moldybread is known for trolling, holding insane double standards and having a penchant for jumping on the anti-Sony bandwagons but not holding the same deal of attention towards comparable stories in regards Microsoft. That Rookie_Monster guy who was banned was the same, but he was worse. Yet, both of them have received a lot of support from gangsta_red who somehow thinks I'm worth trying to tear down, but those other guys never were. I once thought they were the same person because they both claimed to be from SF, both were Xbox fans trying to hide their bias and their lies, both were disingenuous in their arguments and both of them were always around on the same articles responding to each other at almost the exact same time, trying to give each other support in their arguments against Sony fans.

I digress. I can't have less credit than someone disingenuous who defends fanboys and has problem with me for being honest about the situations between Sony vs. Microsoft this generation. The same guy who attacked me and trying to discredit me for being right years ago about Sony vs. Microsoft's game situation, and now cannot argue it because it continues to be true. The same guy who high-fived Xbox fanboys in Sony articles because they helped him on his agenda to try and win arguments with Sony guys on here. Get real. The only ones who laugh at me and try and discredit me on here are the ones who audaciously try and hide their own slant.

[cd1]

I liked the idea of cross-play until i saw the reality of it. Nobody i know plays Warthunder (tanks) on PS4 anymore because of PC aimbot cheats. Thankfully it isnt as widely used on planes. If keeping a level playing field means no cross play so be it.

[4Sh0w]

ziggurcat,
"you can't say they're holding anything back without knowing why they're saying no to begin with.."

-Oh come on, are you listening to yourself? -Of course I can say it because the a few devs have said it= and they would know. Like I said we may not know exactly WHY but again it's likely as with most things it's a business decision by Sony because it's doesn't help their bottom line, -Im not even making the case that they should, but obvious is obvious.

#1 when a dev withholds game content to release as *paid DLC shortly after launch nobody says "well we dont know why they did it so we cant say anything" -of course we know its obvious.

#2 Now you want to blame Microsoft= the same guys who have been very open to crossplay and *publicly asked sony to allow it, - if it was something dirty or technical on Microsofts part don't you think Sony would say exactly what it is, instead of vague answers? dont you think those devs would have pointed that out, instead of saying>>>>>>

"right now the only company keeping that from happening is Sony. So what’s holding it up? “The honest answer is PlayStation has not yet granted us permission,” Jeremy Dunham, VP of publishing at Psyonix, told Polygon." https://www.polygon.com/e3/...

-Why would Sony NOT respond by now saying this news is false >>>if it wasn't true?= It's TRUE.

-Again I don't give a rat's arse but you sound ridiculous defending Sony.

[MegamanXXX]

"The team tested the game at full 4K resolution on Xbox One X earlier in development, but going that way would have meant a lower framerate. Thus, it was decided to use the aforementioned resolutions and a smoother, faster gameplay experience."

Wait are you serious? The One X should be able too handle it especially for $500 dollars imo. This should be the default since the One X is way more powerful.

[Ju]

Way more!

[feedthereaper]

I don't understand the issue with cross-play. Fortnite accidently turned it on for a day and allowed Xbox and PS4 players to play in-game with each other.

https://www.theverge.com/20...

[Fishy Fingers]

Obviously this is waaaaay less important but is anyone actually looking forward to playing the game? Only ever see threads bitchin about the performance comparison with little mention of actual interest in the game.

Sure any config difference would be negligible unless side by side.

[rainslacker]

What game are you referring to? :)

[Miss_Weeboo]

Raiders of the lost Ark

[KakashiHotake]

I know to each his own but I honestly don't see the point of Xbox One X. What market exactly is this for? At $500 bucks it's clearly not for console gamers. They might have actually sold me if they had the games to back it up, but alas they don't and the ones they do you can also get on PC or just get an Xbox One S for a fraction of the price, and if you choose to go that route then may as well get a standard PS4. The Switch is a much more interesting proposition in my opinion because it actually offers something different from what's already available. It's almost hard to believe that a company as big as Microsoft has been in the console business for over 17 years and haven't learned a thing. Those guys clearly aren't paying attention to the target audience.

[mwjw696]

So as you the sole target audience, what do you want? You clearly have a marketing degree, clearvoance, and speak for all the gamers. GTFO.

[MegamanXXX]

I think Nintendo upcoming exclusives is more interesting atm. Can't wait to play Mario Odyssey

[Death]

With over 1000 Xbox One games, 400 plus b/c 360 games and the upcoming original Xbox games, if you don't see the games to back it up it's because you don't want to. The bulk of both the PS4 and Xbox One's game library consists of third party games and we are already seeing the best version of those coming to Xbox One X and it hasn't even released. There is no question Microsoft has less first party games, but that isn't the same as having none. Has it occurred to you that you might not be the target audience?

[XtraTrstrL]

Gears 4 needs to go to Steam like KI is going. It's the only thing that'll save the dwindling population, especially with such a crap dev team like TC behind the franchise now.

[Death]

Because an 86 on Metacritic which is 2 points higher than Uncharted the Lost Legacy is a crap game now...

[Death]

Gears 4 is an 86 on Metaacritic on PC which is where you will find Steam. http://www.metacritic.com/g...

[XtraTrstrL]

They could give it 100 on Metacritic, it doesn't represent the state of the game currently. People aren't happy, and there is hardly any population. TC is as incompetent as it comes, definitely the post-launch dev team. The main point is that it needs Steam for a population though, not how crappy TC is.

[UltraAtomic]

And it's the 1080p vs 720p war once again! Except now we got it the other way around. 1260p vs 1440p.

[Ju]

Well, kinda. But one costs more and the "cheaper" one ain't a beast, right? At least before there was someone equivalent HW at play. Now we are just laughing if the $100 bigger beast can't really pull ahead :P (LOL).

[Segata]

I just found out today this game was originally a Metroid Hunters like game on Wii U but Nintendo didn't like it. Kinda wierd.

[Tko1111]

All developers engines are not equall. This aN AA BUDGET game that has to decide what to spend resources on. Resolution does equal graphics so I hope there are some smaa and high settings in this game

[Chris_Wray]

I don't think I'll ever understand Sony now. Openly supporting crossplay is a fantastic thing and any game that supports it is only getting marked up in my eyes. Fair play to MercuryStream, as well as offering the prologue for free, which can act as a demo for those unsure if they'll like the game.

[Xenophon_York]

Amazing that there is still so much confusion and marketing manipulation about a mainstream 4K game system (and games—though this should be an obvious requirement of stated game system).

[bluefox755]

Huge difference!

[Neonridr]

1260? Interesting resolution.

[DivineAssault]

Very small difference.. I wonder why.. The xb1x is packing some decent horsepower.. Oh well.. Im not very interested in this regardless but its one of the first games to support both higher end consoles..

[Wolfrunt]

Good news

[PaleMoonDeath]

What's with all this 4K blabber? solid 1080p and 60 FPS first please. Lets not run before we can jog huh.

[Wotbot]

It has to be down to being poorly optimised on both platforms, the game doesn't look that amazing not to hit 4K, bog standard stuff from what I have seen on game vids.

[BeRealisticNow]

True(er) 4K

[SlyFoxC]

Raiders of the Broken Planet will only support Windows 10/Xbox One and PlayStation 4/Steam crossplay at launch.

So no Xbox/playstation title makes it sound like it is. It is still the already known crossplay between console/pc.