Destiny 2 Beta May Be a Better Game but Forgets What Made Destiny 1 Great

Gadgets 360 says:

"Bungie fails to recognise what made Destiny so memorable for its core user base - a sense of character progression. There’s no loot unless you include a gun you find in the first minute of the Homecoming level. Through out Destiny 1’s alpha, beta, and retail release, your character levelled up and obtained gear, which gave one the feeling of improvement even you were simply acquiring a new piece of armour in a random skirmish. None of this is present in the Destiny 2 beta yet, though it might well be when the game comes out eventually. Given how central this is to the experience, you’d think Bungie would play up those aspects, but so far the evidence points to the contrary."

[DGabos93]

It will be in the full game. For the beta, they are making it seem like you get cool gear quickly, probably to tempt players that were not familiar with the first game to purchase D2.

[Fishy Fingers]

Probably right and the more gear they can get tried out in the beta the better for feedback (the point of a beta).

[Goldby]

this is a demo and marketing for sales, not actual testing. the game comes out in liek 2 months

[DaDrunkenJester]

@goldby

They can still tweak movement speed, super recharge based on feedback etc within 2 months... also tweak some crucible things.

[Skull521]

Lol nothing made Destiny great. That game got like 6/10 across the board and that was a fair score...

Decent attempt for a first game for a new group of people after the bungie talent signed on with 343i.

[EatCrow]

Full game?
By that you mean 2-4 years after release right?

[UKmilitia]

look how half assed the destiny release was,only to be shafted by them numerous times and only then did the game feel complete,yet i had got fed up by then

[Relientk77]

You mean how Exotic weapons are just sitting on a gun rack in the mission lol

[Rude-ro]

Knowing destiny.. everything we have in the beta is not any of the gear any player will use other than leveling up.
Normal legendary drops that will be trash in the game as you progress.
The other aspect not available on the beta is all the mods for weapons and armor. Weapons will have frame choices and perk mods.
This game will rely on player loadouts more than destiny 1 for all activities.

[CorndogBurglar]

What are you even talking about? The article says you get NO gear in the beta aside from a gun you pick up in the very beginning.

That being the case, how is Bungie trying to "make it seem like you get cool gear quickly"?

I get people hate Destiny. Thats fine. I understand it had its problems. But this comment just comes off as someone who has no idea what is actually in the game and is just hating for no reason.

[Neonridr]

so are there no rewards for playing crucible? Or at the end of the strike? That sort of sucks :P

but it's just a beta, so oh well.

[Cmv38]

You still get drops at the end of crucible and strikes. He's talking about drops through out regular play.

[Jmanzare]

Yea there's no social space decrypt engrams

[Neonridr]

gotcha, thanks for the response.

[Sevir]

The Destiny one beta was a lot more full in terms of content offerings I must say. The first 5 missions of the the game was available 2 crucible modes and 3 maps plus a strike along with the social space. Leveling and such.

While they've decided taken a different approach with the beta. These features will be in the full game. I'm just disappointed that they went this route. In all I feel they chose to give smaller snippets of everything because of the heavy emphasis of story, and to that extent I'll say the game is shaping up to be amazing.

The visuals are awesome as well

[yomfweeee]

The author here is basically a moron and he assumes that since something isn't in the beta, it won't be in the final game. The loot and light system will all be in the game, Bungie has already said so.

[Neonridr]

I think the author is comparing the two betas. At least in the first beta it allowed us to progress. We got to do several story missions, we found better and better loot. Our skills unlocked, etc.

[HomoLuden]

THe author seems very intelligent on how to create an issue out ofnothing to make ppl click. lol

[Rude-ro]

There are three armor builds and two of most guns

[DaDrunkenJester]

There is...

[dsammy04]

Honestly don't care about getting too much loot especially since everything will be wiped when the game is officially released.

Especially with a player like myself I played all 3 classes I really just wanted to see how they all handle and new specials. If you play all 3 first missions each character gets a different exotic either in primary or secondary slot. So that's all I needed to get me to buy the game to see a sample of 3 new guns.

I really don't want to level up to have to do it all over come September. The beta was to get us excited for what's to come and also stress bungie servers. I'm excited for this game.

[StuffAndThings]

How is this a better game ? Granted I have only played the intro level seems the same to me

[Goldby]

its not, i actually found d2 quite dull

[Jmanzare]

It's the beta..

[Goldby]

@JManzare.

Destiny 1 beta was about 1000x better than this one. only a strike available and no exploration area...

[Jmanzare]

you can't really judge the entire game off of a story mission a strike and 2 pvp gametypes. I did like the beta for destiny better than d2 but it's not like we had the entire cosmodrone to patrol.

[Goldby]

@Jmanzare

im judging it based off what i felt liek during D1 beta compared to full game and then this.

i was excited for D1, didnt stop playing the beta, really enjoyed it, game came out, dissapointed in the end, now with destiny 2, i didnt even feel the urge to finish the strike that was available, so that is telling me that either the other strikes wont be as good as they are tryign to wow us with it, and the entire experience was just bleh.

homecoming mission was a joke.

[vallencer]

Its ok we get the social space to explore on the last day of the beta. Its gonna be awesome!!

/s

Youre right the beta for the first game was a lot better. I feel like they didnt care as much for this because they know people will buy it anyway.

[vickers500]

@goldby

I wasn't impressed either, but think about why that might be. Back then, early ps4 days, there wasn't really a lot to play, and Destiny, its world, graphics, its controls and the potential was very exciting. I think I was still excited by using a new controller to play my games (ds4). There was also the hype aspect of it being Bungies first ps4 game.

I think a lot of that played into our enjoyment of Destiny 1s beta, but as time passed and more games are now out, those aspects don't mean anything anymore. Not to mention, Destiny 1 put waaaayy too much content in the game for a normal beta. People assumed that if THAT was just a beta, then there must be a TON of content in the full game.

I went in to D2s beta assuming it would disappoint, but the homecoming mission actually surprised me, I thought it was very good. I was disappointed with the strike and cruicible, but it's just one strike, and I've never been a fan of cruicible, even though I thought it was better than Destiny 1s.

I think it's too early to judge. I think the beta for destiny 2 is not at all an example of what the game will be like, this time, it's just a pretty normal beta by todays standards.

[Codedan]

Feels like copy paste with texture updates.

[Rude-ro]

90% of all franchises are the same...
How they improve on the pve will determine how good the sequel is...
So we are waiting.
Halo, halo 2, halo 3 etc are all the same game with a lot of the same areas... the evelution was the story.
Why does anyone try to say "the same thing"?

[Chaosdreams]

Is there too much story in the Beta?

[EatCrow]

LOL SO MUCH IM SURE!

Was waiting for someone to say something regarding that.

[FITSniper]

It's a freakin beta.

[MegaMohsi]

So you guys want the full game in the beta?

Bungie even mentioned they were gonna scale back what was in the beta for this game as to not ruin everything in early progression like what happened in Destiny 1

[Goldby]

You could only get to lvl 8 in destiny 1 beta.

So to prevent us from ruining our own experiences with the progression they decide to give us everything off the bat.

[Scatpants]

I have no interest in playing this.

[Ethereal]

Great. Stop commenting in articles about it.

[Codedan]

The entire competitive multiplayer feels like copy and paste. The strike was good if they have the proper story in the game which wasn't in the first. I don't know why, but I feel like bungie is trying to get by with minimal effort.

[spartan112g]

It's a beta that they literally said weeks ago exactly what you would and wouldn't be doing in the beta. I have no sympathy for ignorance. Also, if this were any other game you would get no campaign missions and only multiplayer (a la Battlefront 2, Halo 3, Splatoon 2). Be happy with what you got in something free.

[DaDrunkenJester]

Smh... it's a beta... good god.

I mean it was more of a demo than anything as far as PvE goes, but to expect everything in a beta is silly. I also like the fact they withheld an entire patrol area this time because in Destiny 1 i played the beta so much I was burnt out with that first level by the time I got to play it because it was almost exactly the same haha

[Ethereal]

Bungie has told countless early previewers that they are still finalizing the leveling system. The beta just gives you a maxed out character to fool around with. The beta is to stress test servers and gather data prior to release. When did we loose the meaning of a beta version?

[LAWSON72]

I am not a fan of the weapon type changes, it is now primary weapon only battles in pvp leaving very little room for weapon variety especially when SMGs and side pistols are trash and useless. I really liked having a shotgun and sniper with a fair amount of ammo.

I don't mind throwing $30 (game sharing ftw) to see how the base game turns out, but it certainly did not blow me away.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

That's quite the ironic paradox

[drunkenspy007]

They also forgot what made the game bad and decided to include the same elements.

[HomoLuden]

What a shit article. its a beta, we all know loot is there in the full game. Talk about BS clickbait

[The_Sage]

You may want to check that title again.

[jugo14]

people saying this is a beta, its a beta, don't you understand this is a beta, need to stfu. This is a demo of the game. Do you really think its going to substantially change from now to the release date. I highly doubt it. It just like destiny 1 were most if not all of the gameplay was in the "Beta" (i.e. demo). Just watch and see.

*queue the fanboys*

[GrimDragon]

I think you expected way too much from the beta. Therefore will be pleasantly surprised by the full release.